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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on May 11, 2014 13:34:11 GMT -5
Was just wondering something.... Now that we have a season 3, does it affect your opinion/enjoyment of season 2 ? Personally, although i have liked season 2, i have felt frustrated at the vincat breakup, thinking that we only had limited episodes left. I wanted them reconciled. Felt Gaberine was a total waste of my time. Now however, knowing we have 6 more this season and at least 13 next season of VinCat goodness can I go back, relax and view the separation differently? Will the love triangles be more bearable? I am going to give it a go ..... Will let you know how I get on...... What do you think? Well, I haven't thought about that but you may be right. I had intention to rewatch first 16 eps of s2 before June 2nd anyway so I will let you know!!!
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Post by kp definitely needs S3 on May 11, 2014 15:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by raniamahd on May 11, 2014 19:15:08 GMT -5
Was just wondering something.... Now that we have a season 3, does it affect your opinion/enjoyment of season 2 ? Personally, although i have liked season 2, i have felt frustrated at the vincat breakup, thinking that we only had limited episodes left. I wanted them reconciled. Felt Gaberine was a total waste of my time. Now however, knowing we have 6 more this season and at least 13 next season of VinCat goodness can I go back, relax and view the separation differently? Will the love triangles be more bearable? I am going to give it a go ..... Will let you know how I get on...... What do you think? that is actually a good question , i did rewatch parts of season 2 ( not the triangles parts they are still so painful ) you know toricent was the less painful but what pissed me off about it was the whole talking of the primal connection between them it reminded me of Alex's thing again + of course the fact that they are both readhead but with Alex there was the whole six year of relationship and the childhood that Cat can't compete with , and with Tori here we go again another connection with another woman she can't compete with i mean we really believe and invest in vincat bond and connection , they made us believe its so strong and can overcome anything , but from a middle of nowhere came women with stronger bond with V that cat can't compete with , and they dare to do this not once but twice but again the pain i feel with toricent can't compare to gabrine as i said before it would be bearable if it was anyone but Gabe it was the most crazy idea i saw on a show ever ! how on earth you turned the villain of the show not just into a good guy but to a love interest for the lead female character ? to Mr. Perfect ?! how can Cat think he could be a better choice for her ?! he tried to kill the love of her life and kidnapped her ?! he might easily kill her too to save himself if it was necessary ?! how is that ever could be forgiven or forgettable to be even just friend with him not to mention having a sexual relation with him ?! i don't know where that idea came from ? maybe it was easier for the showmakers to use Gabe as a love interest than hire a new actor ? or cheaper or they run out of ideas for Gabe 'story in s2 so they used him like that ! anyway it wasn't acceptable nor convincing nor forgivable at lest for me ! sorry i say to much but to express myself in a few words : after knowing there will be s3 i can rewatch s2 and toricent could be bearable and not so painful like before ! but gabrine ? never ever a possibility :-[not in this lifetime or in this show anyway
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Post by feezya on May 12, 2014 2:55:52 GMT -5
Since many of the fans are so against Gabe. Here I made a little compilation from the second season as why I really hope they keep Gabe in season 3 as well. In the first season the Catherine and Gabe scenes were on fire (not romantically) and in the second season the Vincent and Gabe scenes were spot on. I gathered some of my favorite Vincent and Gabe convos but let them speak for themselves. So the Gabe character can be still interesting if not romantically involved with Catherine. Not to mention Sendhil is doing a pretty good job. Honestly i have no qualms about having Gabe around - keep Vincent on his toes and add some "colors" to the series (good n bad). Even like how JT has no reservations about showing his feelings for Gabe to him. wish i can make a similar video as yours on JT n Gabe but alas, am a little challenged in that dept.
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Post by feezya on May 12, 2014 3:05:01 GMT -5
Was just wondering something.... Now that we have a season 3, does it affect your opinion/enjoyment of season 2 ? Personally, although i have liked season 2, i have felt frustrated at the vincat breakup, thinking that we only had limited episodes left. I wanted them reconciled. Felt Gaberine was a total waste of my time. Now however, knowing we have 6 more this season and at least 13 next season of VinCat goodness can I go back, relax and view the separation differently? Will the love triangles be more bearable? I am going to give it a go ..... Will let you know how I get on...... What do you think? i watched 201 today and i absolutely loved it. i was actually thinking what a shame it is that we got very few peopel tuning in for the first episode cause i think if more had tuned in then we would have had a different story now and higher ratings and maybe even a full third season. cause i really think that episode was brilliant. i was not happy with the triangles either but thought this season had some brilliant episodes and some great moments adn was genearlly better crafted than a lot of season 1. so overall i enjoyed both seasons a lot and cannot really say i have a favourite (maybe i will decide after season 2 finishes ). but yes it is a relief that there will be more vincat goodness now and the plan is for them to stay together season 2 type of filming with vincat togetherness will be bliss Just finished binging on S2. seriously, it's good. ep 1 was interesting, exciting, tear-jerking but only if people know what had happened before (season 1). could feel that as the season progress it became a bit frustrating and hair pulling worthy esp when Tori came in but when she died and Vincent started to find his human side again… aaaahhh the series just spike again IMO, with the tender sides of him, his constant inner struggle to stay away from Cat, his humour side appears…. yup, but hey i might be bias coz i loooove everything about this series from the start Without VinCat loving romantic moments laced with anger, frustration, hatred i would not be on a roller coaster ride and that's what i especially love about Batb. Yes i agree with Mrs Forbes Glass Half Full that we have another season i felt how S2 has unfolded was actually not bad at all. What's a relationship without its ups and downs...Just can't wait for the series to start again..
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Post by evanarose on May 12, 2014 3:46:27 GMT -5
Was just wondering something.... Now that we have a season 3, does it affect your opinion/enjoyment of season 2 ? Personally, although i have liked season 2, i have felt frustrated at the vincat breakup, thinking that we only had limited episodes left. I wanted them reconciled. Felt Gaberine was a total waste of my time. Now however, knowing we have 6 more this season and at least 13 next season of VinCat goodness can I go back, relax and view the separation differently? Will the love triangles be more bearable? I am going to give it a go ..... Will let you know how I get on...... What do you think? Interesting question. I still prefer Season 1 to 2. I think the writers have to come up with something magical in order for vincat to have the same magic as season 1 because the thing is there is still baggage *cough* Gabe being one of them. Although he isn't a bad character everytime I look at him, I am reminded of the love triangle, etc. I mean watching the recent episodes vincat still has the chemistry but the history is in the back of my mind; dbag vincent, Tori so for me, I guess it will take time and more vincat moments (not just getting it on physically.) but really connecting on an emotional level. I mean it's probably different if you watch the recent episode of season 2 now without having seen the drama of redheads lol. I think Gabe needs to go on a holiday or at least find his own happiness without being dependent on cat. It's annoying how they used Toris and Gabes character. I would have preferred Gabe to be more like a good friend where you can see it's arkward to go there and it won't go there. As for Tori; the idea of having V like a teacher was interesting but arrgh it should have been strictly that! . Although when you think about it how can you not have a crush on Vincent. Still *sigh* maybe they should of used a guy or someone younger. I would've thought Tori was young enough lol but nope :/ Still, I don't get how she became a beast? It's just annoying and contrived in how they did that. Anyway, I'm sorry I sound like a party pooper lol! The show is looking up now, so I am looking forward to the rest of the episodes. Now vincat should stick together not break up anymore lol. I mean it's ok if they have their odd argument, but not leading to a breakup or love triangle related. Nothing too serious that will last more than an ep, 2 max.
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Post by ArwenFan on May 12, 2014 16:45:06 GMT -5
Since many of the fans are so against Gabe. Here I made a little compilation from the second season as why I really hope they keep Gabe in season 3 as well. In the first season the Catherine and Gabe scenes were on fire (not romantically) and in the second season the Vincent and Gabe scenes were spot on. I gathered some of my favorite Vincent and Gabe convos but let them speak for themselves. So the Gabe character can be still interesting if not romantically involved with Catherine. Not to mention Sendhil is doing a pretty good job. Disagree. Yes, the character has worked for the past 2 seasons, but if Gabe is behind Vincent's arrest (which I think he is) and is hellbent on keeping Vincat apart (which he's implied) and is working with her snake of a sperm donor (which is possible), he needs to have a wrap. He can't continue to be good-bad-good-bad because it cheapens the story and the character and suspends disbelief. At some point they have to bring in new characters and obstacles. Put plainly, Gabe is not a pivotal character or antagonist and will run his course by the end of this season, IMO.
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Post by Nelly on May 12, 2014 17:02:17 GMT -5
Since many of the fans are so against Gabe. Here I made a little compilation from the second season as why I really hope they keep Gabe in season 3 as well. In the first season the Catherine and Gabe scenes were on fire (not romantically) and in the second season the Vincent and Gabe scenes were spot on. I gathered some of my favorite Vincent and Gabe convos but let them speak for themselves. So the Gabe character can be still interesting if not romantically involved with Catherine. Not to mention Sendhil is doing a pretty good job. Disagree. Yes, the character has worked for the past 2 seasons, but if Gabe is behind Vincent's arrest (which I think he is) and is hellbent on keeping Vincat apart (which he's implied) and is working with her snake of a sperm donor (which is possible), he needs to have a wrap. He can't continue to be good-bad-good-bad because it cheapens the story and the character and suspends disbelief. At some point they have to bring in new characters and obstacles. Put plainly, Gabe is not a pivotal character or antagonist and will run his course by the end of this season, IMO. Well, if Gabe's story ends with season two I'll be very sad. I really don't want to see "another new baddie" brought to the show.
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Post by raniamahd on May 13, 2014 5:10:39 GMT -5
Disagree. Yes, the character has worked for the past 2 seasons, but if Gabe is behind Vincent's arrest (which I think he is) and is hellbent on keeping Vincat apart (which he's implied) and is working with her snake of a sperm donor (which is possible), he needs to have a wrap. He can't continue to be good-bad-good-bad because it cheapens the story and the character and suspends disbelief. At some point they have to bring in new characters and obstacles. Put plainly, Gabe is not a pivotal character or antagonist and will run his course by the end of this season, IMO. Well, if Gabe's story ends with season two I'll be very sad. I really don't want to see "another new baddie" brought to the show. why not ? it will be refreshing and could be interesting too which i can't say about any possible story line Gabe might have if he will be in s3 ! i hate to be like a broken record but his story can never be interesting or original anymore after they used him in every possible and impossible way ! so his story will seem forced and repeated , sorry but ( imho) Gabe's character now like an over juiced lemon till it completely dried , it can't give you even one drop anymore !
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on May 13, 2014 15:24:05 GMT -5
Was just wondering something.... Now that we have a season 3, does it affect your opinion/enjoyment of season 2 ? Personally, although i have liked season 2, i have felt frustrated at the vincat breakup, thinking that we only had limited episodes left. I wanted them reconciled. Felt Gaberine was a total waste of my time. Now however, knowing we have 6 more this season and at least 13 next season of VinCat goodness can I go back, relax and view the separation differently? Will the love triangles be more bearable? I am going to give it a go ..... Will let you know how I get on...... What do you think? No. In my mind S2 has been, for the most part, an enormous and disheartening waste of time. If I wanted to watch a show about sleeping around and love triangles, let's just say, there are plenty of other shows I could have watched on TV... And for the record, a love triangle, in order for it to be compelling has to be convincing to start with - and they didn't make ONE that was even slightly convincing. Period. My problem with S2 doesn't come with the original concept to break them up, rather, HOW they did it. I feel it was disgusting, lacking in imagination, creatively flat, and absolutely horrific to watch and hasn't been the LEAST bit enjoyable or entertaining. I would like to be kinder, but I just can't. I can say that since the turkey trauma, right up through episode 15, that I hated the show and was horribly disappointed in the choice of characterization, storyline, and plot development. But to be honest, I was blinded by how much I hated the actions of the main characters, it didn't really matter what else was going on, the entire concept of BATB became laughable to me. If it had not been for my love of VinCat and the actors, I would not have kept watching. Plus, I really really really thought there would be NO sleeping around, and that it would get SO MUCH BETTER faster. I was wrong. 2/3 of the season has been a complete waste of time for me. People have suggested I try to watch it again, but honestly the whole thing makes me sick, they took a really good love story, one that we were all invested in, and reduced it to another made for TV soap opera complete with empty sex and boring love triangles. It wasn't even interesting. I couldn't stand watching it the first time, and each consecutive episode seemed to get worse and my dislike stronger, I honestly don't know what would make me want to watch something I hated so much the first time again. At the end of it all I was left so jaded and disgusted, that I had no energy or desire to fight for another season, because I fought so hard for S2 only to be treated to almost an entire season devoted to ruining the show that I loved. I mean honestly, I think I can trust TPTB to try to make things right during the next 6 episodes, but give them an entire third season to play with and I'm terrified with what they might come up with. I have no sense of trust. So will I watch that mess again and change my opinion? Mostly likely not. I hated it. I still hate it. And hate is kind of a strong word. Nails on a chalkboard, that is what S2 is to me. I'd rather go to the dentist and get a root canal. At least that involves anesthetic. Also, pregnancy and lack of wine surely didn't help either. The damage has been done, I'm just trying to move on and forget it ever happened. IMO VinCat was stronger before all of this. That is my full take. You don't need to break up and sleep around to be a strong couple. That is an idea that is popular on network TV and it isn't very believable or real to me. And the other thing, this one's a biggie, is that if you are going to watch love triangles, they do it much better on other shows. They did one that was pretty good on Grey's Anatomy this year, and I was compelled and completely drawn in by it. And that is freaking Grey's Anatomy. Enough said.
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Post by raniamahd on May 13, 2014 17:57:39 GMT -5
SpydancerLovesVincat you are amazing dear friend and its amazing how you are good with words and how you can express what some of us think and feel but can't put it in the perfect words like you do i am waiting for the rest of s2 and s3 with one wish and prayer that things will be different than what we saw in s2 till now , and that we will never ever go throw that hell again in any possible way Yolie said that and i trust her this is for you and i hope every thing is and will be great in your pregnancy
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Post by vincat4always on May 13, 2014 20:06:30 GMT -5
Oh WOW. I see some of you didn't like season 2 at all. I only started watchinc BATB 2 months ago when it was already on hiatus and watched the whole two seasons in 2 days. So maybe that's why I feel differently, Im sure if I was invested in the show and watched the show week after week like you guys maybe then I'd feel the same. But I have to say I did enjoy season 2, yes I may not have liked the whole Tori storyline but I for one am glad we never saw them sleep together or seen them kiss after that original kiss.
The thing is shows need to do this kind of things, one for the characters to grow and change. They need angst that's what makes people watch. I feel there was more angst in season 1 then in season 2. I guess also I didn't mind it so much cuz even though they we're broken up, they still had scenes together and in the scenes they had together or separate I could still see them care for each other, more on Vincent's part like when he walked in on Cat kissing Patrick, and with the JT scene afterwards and then even in Hostages with Vincent scenes with Gabe and in the end end of the epi with VinCat. I know a lot of people feel like the only reason why Vincent started fighting for Cat was cuz Tori died and she told him he belongs with Cat. But even before Tori died the whole episode you could see Vincent still had feelings for Cat for gods sakes even Tori knew it. And when Vincent was confronted with it by Tori he couldn't deny it. I don't know I really don't think the season was bad at all. I do admit watching season 1 again and then season 2 again it feels like its a different show and to be honest I don't even know which season I like better. Season 1 everyone just wanted them to kiss already and be together but in season 2 at least we have had them together on and off but they have more or less have been together from epi 1. We didn't have to wait 16 episode before they kissed again. I might be the only one who feels this way, but they did have to go more into the darker side of being a beast, and so that Vincent can know both sides of it. I did find it stupid that the epi Tori died is the episode that Cat choose to be with Gabe but they couldn't just make Vincent try to get her back right then and there cuz we'd be back to season 1 and the whole being second choice thing. And like the writers said she needed to explore the possibility of being with someone who isn't a beast, whos father approves of, who has money and so on. They rushed it all a bit but that's cuz they didn't know if season 3 was possible and I think they wanted to end the season 2 with a happily ever after thing. But look at the bright side the writers did say that when they come back together they will be stronger then ever. And season 3 will be about who they r together so we know they wont tear them apart. Last thing Ill say is I feel Catherine needed this time to find out who SHE is. Cuz last yr was all about Vincent...
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Post by hopefulromantic on May 13, 2014 20:25:30 GMT -5
Oh WOW. I see some of you didn't like season 2 at all. I only started watchinc BATB 2 months ago when it was already on hiatus and watched the whole two seasons in 2 days. So maybe that's why I feel differently, Im sure if I was invested in the show and watched the show week after week like you guys maybe then I'd feel the same. But I have to say I did enjoy season 2, yes I may not have liked the whole Tori storyline but I for one am glad we never saw them sleep together or seen them kiss after that original kiss.
The thing is shows need to do this kind of things, one for the characters to grow and change. They need angst that's what makes people watch. I feel there was more angst in season 1 then in season 2. I guess also I didn't mind it so much cuz even though they we're broken up, they still had scenes together and in the scenes they had together or separate I could still see them care for each other, more on Vincent's part like when he walked in on Cat kissing Patrick, and with the JT scene afterwards and then even in Hostages with Vincent scenes with Gabe and in the end end of the epi with VinCat. I know a lot of people feel like the only reason why Vincent started fighting for Cat was cuz Tori died and she told him he belongs with Cat. But even before Tori died the whole episode you could see Vincent still had feelings for Cat for gods sakes even Tori knew it. And when Vincent was confronted with it by Tori he couldn't deny it. I don't know I really don't think the season was bad at all. I do admit watching season 1 again and then season 2 again it feels like its a different show and to be honest I don't even know which season I like better. Season 1 everyone just wanted them to kiss already and be together but in season 2 at least we have had them together on and off but they have more or less have been together from epi 1. We didn't have to wait 16 episode before they kissed again. I might be the only one who feels this way, but they did have to go more into the darker side of being a beast, and so that Vincent can know both sides of it. I did find it stupid that the epi Tori died is the episode that Cat choose to be with Gabe but they couldn't just make Vincent try to get her back right then and there cuz we'd be back to season 1 and the whole being second choice thing. And like the writers said she needed to explore the possibility of being with someone who isn't a beast, whos father approves of, who has money and so on. They rushed it all a bit but that's cuz they didn't know if season 3 was possible and I think they wanted to end the season 2 with a happily ever after thing. But look at the bright side the writers did say that when they come back together they will be stronger then ever. And season 3 will be about who they r together so we know they wont tear them apart. Last thing Ill say is I feel Catherine needed this time to find out who SHE is. Cuz last yr was all about Vincent... Couldn't have said it better myself!!!
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Post by dan on May 13, 2014 20:33:39 GMT -5
Oh WOW. I see some of you didn't like season 2 at all. I only started watchinc BATB 2 months ago when it was already on hiatus and watched the whole two seasons in 2 days. So maybe that's why I feel differently, Im sure if I was invested in the show and watched the show week after week like you guys maybe then I'd feel the same. But I have to say I did enjoy season 2, yes I may not have liked the whole Tori storyline but I for one am glad we never saw them sleep together or seen them kiss after that original kiss.
The thing is shows need to do this kind of things, one for the characters to grow and change. They need angst that's what makes people watch. I feel there was more angst in season 1 then in season 2. I guess also I didn't mind it so much cuz even though they we're broken up, they still had scenes together and in the scenes they had together or separate I could still see them care for each other, more on Vincent's part like when he walked in on Cat kissing Patrick, and with the JT scene afterwards and then even in Hostages with Vincent scenes with Gabe and in the end end of the epi with VinCat. I know a lot of people feel like the only reason why Vincent started fighting for Cat was cuz Tori died and she told him he belongs with Cat. But even before Tori died the whole episode you could see Vincent still had feelings for Cat for gods sakes even Tori knew it. And when Vincent was confronted with it by Tori he couldn't deny it. I don't know I really don't think the season was bad at all. I do admit watching season 1 again and then season 2 again it feels like its a different show and to be honest I don't even know which season I like better. Season 1 everyone just wanted them to kiss already and be together but in season 2 at least we have had them together on and off but they have more or less have been together from epi 1. We didn't have to wait 16 episode before they kissed again. I might be the only one who feels this way, but they did have to go more into the darker side of being a beast, and so that Vincent can know both sides of it. I did find it stupid that the epi Tori died is the episode that Cat choose to be with Gabe but they couldn't just make Vincent try to get her back right then and there cuz we'd be back to season 1 and the whole being second choice thing. And like the writers said she needed to explore the possibility of being with someone who isn't a beast, whos father approves of, who has money and so on. They rushed it all a bit but that's cuz they didn't know if season 3 was possible and I think they wanted to end the season 2 with a happily ever after thing. But look at the bright side the writers did say that when they come back together they will be stronger then ever. And season 3 will be about who they r together so we know they wont tear them apart. Last thing Ill say is I feel Catherine needed this time to find out who SHE is. Cuz last yr was all about Vincent... But This year is still all about Vincent and will continue so until next year.Brad Kern already made it very clear that's the character he most interested in.Cat have no storyline that isnt dedicated to all about Vincent,even when they seperated.This show is not about her mostly,its about writers's favorite,Vincent.yay!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on May 13, 2014 20:41:06 GMT -5
SpydancerLovesVincat you are amazing dear friend and its amazing how you are good with words and how you can express what some of us think and feel but can't put it in the perfect words like you do i am waiting for the rest of s2 and s3 with one wish and prayer that things will be different than what we saw in s2 till now , and that we will never ever go throw that hell again in any possible way Yolie said that and i trust her this is for you and i hope every thing is and will be great in your pregnancy Thanks. I just wanted to say that the fact that we are getting a S3 can't and won't change how I feel about S2, that's all. I guess I got a little carried away with my pregnant self :-) I totally trust Yolie, and I do believe that things will be different from here on out. But truth be told, and this is a big one, I thought things would be different earlier in S2 but they just kept going and going and going with the freaking love triangle business. It was awful.
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