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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jun 12, 2013 22:56:38 GMT -5
I sure hope they don't do that, Cassy09. Vincent being taken - and we don't really know if it was even Muirfield, as far as I know - was a good and emotional plot that can have so good fruits if handled well. And that can't happen in just one episode. At least, I don't think so. That's the kind of thing I think we have to make the writers and producers know we don't want. We want consistent storylines and plots. It's like BatB producers have amazing plans for the show in their minds, but the writers simply can't deliver it. In first season, they introduced so much plots that could last like 3 seasons. Alex's arc could be amazing and it was poorly handled in just 4 eps. Darius' arc was great, but the guy was out of the scene in just two eps. Heather's intervention on VinCat's romance began with only one look and ended abruptly. All those plots could last a long time and could have brought so much good things, good action and drama to the show, but they were hurried and finished without a real profundity. Let's hope - and possibly tell the producers on Twitter - that they stick with a storyline and dwell on it properly. This show has an amazing potential and I want to see it fulfilled. I'm so with you! and just think about the pregancy scare that lasted like 5 minutes xD or her mother that might not be dead.. they keep throwing these things at us but don't really explore them properly. there are a ton of more examples. that's one thing again that bothered me about the finale - they didn't really have anything to tie up except the Gabe storyline because they have abandoned all other potential the stories in the episodes before, just to create more and more drama. that so bothered me, starting at like episode 20... Agreed! I mentioned the "rush" through story lines earlier in the season. At the time, I thought it was done because it was not certain if there would be a Season 2 and so they wanted to get as much of the story to the audience as they could. I still think that may be the case in some of the rushed storyline issues. I don't think the writers are solely to blame. I think the editors and directors have something to do with the "rush" as well. Some believe that the writers, producers and BATB team truly listen to the fans; others do not. They may not respond to complaints or criticism on Twitter or other forms of social media, but I do believe they scan fan forums (including this board) to find out what we think. I am optimistic that the storylines for Season 2 will be well developed and thought through. The first year was bumpy, but I am certain the BATB team learned a great deal. Let's face it, the Beasties definitely roar!!! |
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 12, 2013 23:36:58 GMT -5
I agree with all said..rushing storylines left so many unsolved and unanswered questions and the little answers we got left us with WTF? LOL I do hope they did learn from the Alex arc...I thought that was not rushed and should have been GO FIGURE! On a side note I wouldn't doubt they would some how bring her back.. I always liked the idea that she might be M but then again too many people with M in the story would make it boring LOL
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jun 12, 2013 23:59:10 GMT -5
Ah, but if Alex cannot be M because we speculate there are too many M characters already, maybe Alex could be part of the "other" organization?
I have no doubt they will bring her back. To a certain extent, they NEED to bring her back to clear up the mess they caused with the "second choice" issue. All I can say is if and when they do, the VinCat relationship needs to be made *crystal* clear to Alex. They need to be seen together (as a couple) by Alex and more importantly, Vincent needs to be sure he shows a little PDA in front of her. Once that is cleared up, Alex might be useful to the plot/storyline.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 13, 2013 0:06:48 GMT -5
Ah, but if Alex cannot be M because we speculate there are too many M characters already, maybe Alex could be part of the "other" organization? I have no doubt they will bring her back. To a certain extent, they NEED to bring her back to clear up the mess they caused with the "second choice" issue. All I can say is if and when they do, the VinCat relationship needs to be made *crystal* clear to Alex. They need to be seen together (as a couple) by Alex and more importantly, Vincent needs to be sure he shows a little PDA in front of her. Once that is cleared up, Alex might be useful to the plot/storyline. I agree! They won't bring her in again as a potential love interest the writers wouldn't be that stupid to do somethng like that again LOL...I do hope the fiasco she played in season 1 can be explained..Like you said like if she was just trying to lure Vincent cause she's from M or the other organization...That would explain a lot! The 'second choice' thing has everyone still ticked to be honest people make mistakes and people learn from them..I don't agree with the way he went back to Catherine but he has made up for it at least for me...It's not Vince fault blame the writers for what a jerk he turned out to be in those episodes  |
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jun 13, 2013 0:13:45 GMT -5
Ah, but if Alex cannot be M because we speculate there are too many M characters already, maybe Alex could be part of the "other" organization? I have no doubt they will bring her back. To a certain extent, they NEED to bring her back to clear up the mess they caused with the "second choice" issue. All I can say is if and when they do, the VinCat relationship needs to be made *crystal* clear to Alex. They need to be seen together (as a couple) by Alex and more importantly, Vincent needs to be sure he shows a little PDA in front of her. Once that is cleared up, Alex might be useful to the plot/storyline. I agree! They won't bring her in again as a potential love interest the writers wouldn't be that stupid to do somethng like that again LOL...I do hope the fiasco she played in season 1 can be explained..Like you said like if she was just trying to lure Vincent cause she's from M or the other organization...That would explain a lot! The 'second choice' thing has everyone still ticked to be honest people make mistakes and people learn from them..I don't agree with the way he went back to Catherine but he has made up for it at least for me...It's not Vince fault blame the writers for what a jerk he turned out to be in those episodes That's right! I've forgiven Vincent for being a jerk. ( I still have a few issues with the writers, though -  ). What on earth were they thinking?  LOL!!!! |
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 13, 2013 0:17:58 GMT -5
I agree! They won't bring her in again as a potential love interest the writers wouldn't be that stupid to do somethng like that again LOL...I do hope the fiasco she played in season 1 can be explained..Like you said like if she was just trying to lure Vincent cause she's from M or the other organization...That would explain a lot! The 'second choice' thing has everyone still ticked to be honest people make mistakes and people learn from them..I don't agree with the way he went back to Catherine but he has made up for it at least for me...It's not Vince fault blame the writers for what a jerk he turned out to be in those episodes That's right! I've forgiven Vincent for being a jerk. ( I still have a few issues with the writers, though - ). What on earth were they thinking? LOL!!!! Okay are you sitting down??   It's a joke don't shoot me! LOL  |
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jun 13, 2013 0:21:54 GMT -5
ROFLMAO!!!!  |
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 13, 2013 0:24:37 GMT -5
ROFLMAO!!!! We seem to have the same wicked sense of humor I knew you'd get a kick out of that one! |
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jun 13, 2013 0:26:45 GMT -5
ROFLMAO!!!! We seem to have the same wicked sense of humor I knew you'd get a kick out of that one! Those pictures tell the whole story (in more ways than one!)  |
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 13, 2013 0:29:33 GMT -5
We seem to have the same wicked sense of humor I knew you'd get a kick out of that one! Those pictures tell the whole story (in more ways than one!) That's the only logical explaination for that Alex arc LOL..Yeah they are too funny! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 9:25:26 GMT -5
Ah, but if Alex cannot be M because we speculate there are too many M characters already, maybe Alex could be part of the "other" organization? I have no doubt they will bring her back. To a certain extent, they NEED to bring her back to clear up the mess they caused with the "second choice" issue. All I can say is if and when they do, the VinCat relationship needs to be made *crystal* clear to Alex. They need to be seen together (as a couple) by Alex and more importantly, Vincent needs to be sure he shows a little PDA in front of her. Once that is cleared up, Alex might be useful to the plot/storyline. I'm sure they'll bring Alex back as Muirfield's prisoner. I agree that her being Muirfield doesn't make sense and won't bring any good to the show. But I don't think bringing her back will somehow clean the mess they made in 1st season. When she left, she already knew VinCat would be together. In fact, she was the one to tell Cat that Vincent loved her. Which would be awesome if Vincent had showed her some kind of respect and consideration towards Cat. The way it was put, I can only guess that Alex has some psych powers that we weren't told about because she had to be a foreseer to know Vincent felt anything at all about Cat. So Vincent kissing Cat in front of Alex won't be a surprise to her, I think the surprise would be if they weren't together. Even the whole thing of making Cat his second choice could be forgotten if he had shown some kind of hesitation or regret of doing it. He said to Cat that he wouldn't be happy with Alex and that he wasn't in the cabin happily, but those were just words. He never showed that, there wasn't one single moment when Vincent was with Alex that you could see that he didn't want to be there. The damage is done. There's nothing that can that it back. The only thing we can hope - and demand, now that the producers are on Twitter - is that they keep with their promise of epic love. Vincent saying that Cat is amazing in every single ep "pos-Alex" isn't enough to erase the fact that his love only turned epic after the nurse showed without any doubt that she wouldn't take him the way he is now. |
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jun 13, 2013 9:33:10 GMT -5
Ah, but if Alex cannot be M because we speculate there are too many M characters already, maybe Alex could be part of the "other" organization? I have no doubt they will bring her back. To a certain extent, they NEED to bring her back to clear up the mess they caused with the "second choice" issue. All I can say is if and when they do, the VinCat relationship needs to be made *crystal* clear to Alex. They need to be seen together (as a couple) by Alex and more importantly, Vincent needs to be sure he shows a little PDA in front of her. Once that is cleared up, Alex might be useful to the plot/storyline. I'm sure they'll bring Alex back as Muirfield's prisoner. I agree that her being Muirfield doesn't make sense and won't bring any good to the show. But I don't think bringing her back will somehow clean the mess they made in 1st season. When she left, she already knew VinCat would be together. In fact, she was the one to tell Cat that Vincent loved her. Which would be awesome if Vincent had showed her some kind of respect and consideration towards Cat. The way it was put, I can only guess that Alex has some psych powers that we weren't told about because she had to be a foreseer to know Vincent felt anything at all about Cat. So Vincent kissing Cat in front of Alex won't be a surprise to her, I think the surprise would be if they weren't together. Even the whole thing of making Cat his second choice could be forgotten if he had shown some kind of hesitation or regret of doing it. He said to Cat that he wouldn't be happy with Alex and that he wasn't in the cabin happily, but those were just words. He never showed that, there wasn't one single moment when Vincent was with Alex that you could see that he didn't want to be there. The damage is done. There's nothing that can that it back. The only thing we can hope - and demand, now that the producers are on Twitter - is that they keep with their promise of epic love. Vincent saying that Cat is amazing in every single ep "pos-Alex" isn't enough to erase the fact that his love only turned epic after the nurse showed without any doubt that she wouldn't take him the way he is now. Great points. Actions always speak louder than words! |
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Post by Nelly on Jun 13, 2013 15:26:02 GMT -5
Interesting conversation going on! Just let's not turn it into a season 2 speculation. There is a thread for that. Thanks! Carry on.
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Post by kiki09 on Jun 14, 2013 10:58:02 GMT -5
Ah, but if Alex cannot be M because we speculate there are too many M characters already, maybe Alex could be part of the "other" organization? I have no doubt they will bring her back. To a certain extent, they NEED to bring her back to clear up the mess they caused with the "second choice" issue. All I can say is if and when they do, the VinCat relationship needs to be made *crystal* clear to Alex. They need to be seen together (as a couple) by Alex and more importantly, Vincent needs to be sure he shows a little PDA in front of her. Once that is cleared up, Alex might be useful to the plot/storyline. Even the whole thing of making Cat his second choice could be forgotten if he had shown some kind of hesitation or regret of doing it. He said to Cat that he wouldn't be happy with Alex and that he wasn't in the cabin happily, but those were just words. He never showed that, there wasn't one single moment when Vincent was with Alex that you could see that he didn't want to be there.The damage is done. There's nothing that can that it back. The only thing we can hope - and demand, now that the producers are on Twitter - is that they keep with their promise of epic love. Vincent saying that Cat is amazing in every single ep "pos-Alex" isn't enough to erase the fact that his love only turned epic after the nurse showed without any doubt that she wouldn't take him the way he is now. I think I would have to disagree with you on that point. For example, in Cold Turkey) when Vincent goes off to the cabin with Alex, everytime he tries to explain his condition/what's going on with him to Alex, she keeps interrupting him and jaunt brushes what he says off. You could see that when she kept doing that from the car ride and especially when he was trying to talk to her in the cabin, he was getting irritated with her. To me, he WAS acting like he really didn't want to be there, like he was put off by her. |
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jun 14, 2013 11:53:53 GMT -5
Even the whole thing of making Cat his second choice could be forgotten if he had shown some kind of hesitation or regret of doing it. He said to Cat that he wouldn't be happy with Alex and that he wasn't in the cabin happily, but those were just words. He never showed that, there wasn't one single moment when Vincent was with Alex that you could see that he didn't want to be there.The damage is done. There's nothing that can that it back. The only thing we can hope - and demand, now that the producers are on Twitter - is that they keep with their promise of epic love. Vincent saying that Cat is amazing in every single ep "pos-Alex" isn't enough to erase the fact that his love only turned epic after the nurse showed without any doubt that she wouldn't take him the way he is now. I think I would have to disagree with you on that point. For example, in Cold Turkey) when Vincent goes off to the cabin with Alex, everytime he tries to explain his condition/what's going on with him to Alex, she keeps interrupting him and jaunt brushes what he says off. You could see that when she kept doing that from the car ride and especially when he was trying to talk to her in the cabin, he was getting irritated with her. To me, he WAS acting like he really didn't want to be there, like he was put off by her. You are right, he did do that. Vincent was slightly annoyed in the car, but I never got the feeling he did not want to be there. Maybe it was simply a case of nostalgia. He did turn her down when she offered herself in her apartment. It doesn't change the fact that he was willing to go with Alex and was kind of a jerk to Catherine in the process. Perhaps the true intent of the writers was not portrayed due to some other factor (e.g., editing)? We will never know. |
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