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Post by Andromeda03 on Jul 26, 2015 11:59:04 GMT -5
Happy Episode Day!As you know, this is the episode thread for Beauty and the Beast episode 3x08 Shotgun. This thread is not only for those in Canada that are lucky enough to watch tonight, a total of 4 days earlier than the US, but everyone who watches from now until the US airing on Thursday. For now this thread will be sitting in the Spoilers Section, but on Thursday night will be moved to the Episode Discussion area. Feel free to use this thread to discuss this episode as much, and in as much detail, as you want. This is your episode thread after all. For those who haven't had a chance to see the episode, please know that there will be details in here that are otherwise not in the normal spoiler threads or elsewhere on the forum. Those who have not seen the episode, you do enter this thread at your own risk.Happy viewing and remember to follow forum rules and be courteous to your fellow members by not discussing details of this episode outside of this thread. Also please remember to not post gifs, images, etc that pertain to this episode anywhere outside of this thread (and that includes signatures and avatars) until after the episode has aired in the US. Enjoy the episode everyone!
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Post by pippin on Jul 26, 2015 19:24:20 GMT -5
Usually I follow certain people on Twitter on Sundays at this time cuz I can't wait to find out what happens, but this episode I'm determined to stay as unspoiled as possible even if I already know some specifics.
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Post by ArwenFan on Jul 26, 2015 21:13:49 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to think about this episode.
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Post by jefferen on Jul 26, 2015 21:41:25 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to think about this episode. That's intriguing....I'm interested in reading ur review:) I thought it had the right amount of everything. Except I wouldn't have minded if they or V maybe gave a toast to Cat as his bride to be cuz I couldbe totally seen him getting all emotional and got all sappy About how much he loves Cat. But anyway I am the eternal optimist so I enjoyed it. It definitely wasn't what I was expecting out of an episode, but I was pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Jul 26, 2015 22:17:38 GMT -5
I usually never post anymore but since we're not getting a lot of comments for a while I decided I could help with some comments and share my thoughts. I said in another thread that I'm enjoying way more this season than season 2. I like the episode a lot. While watching the episode I didn't want the wedding to happen though and it's not because I'm not a shipper but because it didn't feel right for them to get married in that episode. I've seen the promos for other TV shows and when the main couple is about to marry, you see all the excitement and you can feel it in the promos but for me it didn't feel like it was going to happen in this episode. Like the way VinCat has been set up a wedding in a church with that kind of big ceremony is not really them. At least that's opinion. I expected something small or more like how they are. I don't know if anyone can understand what I'm saying. It really didn't feel like a wedding. Probably because it wasn't going to happen. Although I don't come to the episode section often I've read some comments and basing those comments on the episode I'm expecting some would be happy with this episode I mean Catherine actually did what everyone was expecting to do. She agreed to the wedding. She even quit to the whole beast thing and she has reasons to do it. Actually Vincent was the one who seems like Catherine in this episode haha. He kept talking and talking and Cat almost didn't say much in this episode I like the last scene. It makes sense. Catherine threw a thing. I don't know what it was through Liam's neck and he just was just fine. The guy ripped Juliana (I'm not sure about her name either, sorry) apart. When I saw her arm and her body in the other side of the room I was like: ewww haha. I really thought he was going to hurt Cat really badly. He just threw her to the other side of the room. I mean he did worse with Vincent but Vincent is the beast, he has more strength. IMO he was going to be okay. He got hurt badly though. Anyways I actually got scared So I see as Cat saw no one really can stop Liam and if I was her I would have said the same. What she said in that last scene. If I had love ones that knew would get killed or hurt for following that man. I love Catherine in the scene. I actually love Catherine in the whole episode especially when she was rehearsing when she was walking down the aisle and when she got off the limo. All furious at Vincent. It was so funny. Btw how convenient for the driver to be listening to music. I thought Heather was funny too. I actually like every character in this episode Tess, Vincent and JT too. Seriously guys don't know much about women, right? I'm talking about JT. When he said he didn't know what he did. I was like: It was a great episode.
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Post by tonysol on Jul 26, 2015 22:34:53 GMT -5
Some early impressions: I thought it was a good episode too. Pacing was good. Heather in the first scene during the wedding rehearsal was hilarious. Guess both Chandler girls have claws if they need them Vincent did have more dialogue during this episode and I especially liked his interactions with Tess, without Cat around. It's good to see he has a direct relationship with her as well. JT and T making up feels more real and I can accept it now, since JT (with some help from Heather) has started to understand Tess better and started to rearrange his priorities. Cat was very passive in this episode and it was good to see her accepting and forgiving all of the people around her who kept trying to protect her and not ruin her big day. I totally understand her "Not our problem" attitude anymore. On the face of it, how can they stop Liam? That guy heals almost instantly from a stab wound in the neck that should have taken out his carotid artery. He doesn't seem to know that Vincent is a beast though, since he was tracking Julianna and I don't think Vincent beasted out at all during that scene. So I'm really looking forward to the next few episodes leading to the season finale. Yes, we all know what's going to happen in 3x13, but I'm really anticipating the VinCat journey to reach there. pippin Ha Ha I was correct about Chief Ward and that script tease. I think it came out ad verbatim. Poor Tess.
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Post by ArwenFan on Jul 26, 2015 23:05:38 GMT -5
Uh, no, we all don't and would like to keep it that way. I didn't like the wedding build up. I sensed it wasn't going to happen, so dragging out the actual church scene annoyed me. I did like seeing Vincent and Tess together without Catherine. I thought Catherine's attitude at the end came out of nowhere especially since she's been on a mission since the season started and admitted here, too, that she would have called off the wedding to run after Julianna. Then to top it off, she was royally pissed when she found out everyone knew about the escape except her. The about face after seeing Vincent still looking very beat up and not even showing concern as to whether or not he was okay just felt really, really off to me. As did all of the Vincat scenes. I didn't feel anything between them and JT's godawful best man speech hit all the wrong notes. I guess I'm tired of hearing about the great love, I want to see the chemistry and connection between the couple involved in the great love. This episode didn't resonate with me at all. Actually, I was kind of bored.
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Jul 26, 2015 23:34:22 GMT -5
You know even though I don't ship them. I saw something that I usually don't see and it's something I've always wanted them to do. That it's for them to show how much they love each other without they saying "I love you" or the rest of their friends saying how much they love each other or how epic their love is. Or for them to have to show their love by kissing each other. During the rehearsal, everyone else was talking. JT was all mad trying to get Tess' attention, Heather was talking on the phone and the guy who was going to get them married didn't even know what he was doing but Vincent and Catherine were in their little world. I thought it was funny because Cat was walking so slow but at the same time I realized she was having eye contact with Vincent. They kept looking at each other without saying a word. Like they were so happy just to be there and everyone else didn't even exist for them. Well, as much as JT cares about VinCat, during the speech he didn't care all about them since he was talking about himself and Tess . I think that scene was supposed to be funny.
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jul 27, 2015 0:35:30 GMT -5
Okay, this is type-as-I-go drabble. Down the rabbit hole we go, looking for who's behind behind behind behind behind the beasts... V and Tess hug! Sister hug! Julianna badassing her way out of the hospital with a head butt and syringe lock pick. Wow. Cat's red dress. YOW. And make-up on point. Wedding look, mmm, no. Did JT really make the speech about him and his relationship? Vincent rocking another comic booky suit with the purple and black. I dig the VTess team up. You have to understand that my life revolves around BroTPs. I like how they've used the beast plots to allow the precinct to be involved and them to do detective-y things like draw their guns! (Tess) Please get a new NYC establishing shot. I was there 14 months ago and Freedom Tower is like...done. The limo creeped me out before Julianna showed up, tbh. What kind of douche wad professionally drives with ear buds in? If you drive with ear buds in, stop it right now. At least he had good taste in music. Limo fight! Weddings are stressful enough. This was a nightmare, sheesh. Nice bridesmaids dresses. Vincent making me cry tho. "You saved me, you loved me... Please, no more sacrifices." That whole wedding debacle was just awkward for me. Like I wanted to feel the feels but I was like oh gosh this is bad. This is going to end so badly. Heather and Tess like: JT you're legit more in love with V than Tess. It was.......idk the word. It was odd...interesting to see them flip viewpoints at the end. Cat has bee SO outspoken about this issue, and she seemed so rattled that it like...quieted her all the way down. I don't think she took Vincent going through that wall very well, not to mention the threats on her own life and their loved ones, as she mentioned. Vincent was a complete mess - first not telling Cat, then her finding out, him trying to protect the wedding, and then, by the end, realizing why she's been so determined to stop who was behind all this. He's been the calming force while she's been keyed up all season, but tonight, she was kind of stopped dead in her tracks and he is distraught. Hmmm....
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Post by DayaBEASTS4 on Jul 27, 2015 0:36:55 GMT -5
I lik it!!! It was an intense episode I do not remember one episode with Vincent and tess sooo together!!! was sweet and tender worrying about each other. The funny here was Heather.. The rehearsal in the church, I agree with Catherine Chandler, ''They kept looking at each other without saying a word'' in their world Decaffeinated coffee is not coffee hahaha!! the way he took the cup of coffee (the first time with both hands ) superrrr I think the voice of Vincent was huskier or maybe he was sick!! Vincent speech about him hiding in the shawdows for ten years until she came along was for me his vows I love the wedding: lots of flowers , Bridesmaids dresses, the limo decorated outside and with red flowers inside just Vincent looks soo nervous at the altar!! his face, priceless!! extremely happy, finally his dream becomes a reality!! well... almost. I will talk later about JT and tess, my post looks a little longer But before I go!!!! THE BAD!! The way he was introduced was amazing ....look promising!!! It was very inhumane way to kill julianna, well he is. But I love the Bad... yess he looks good in long dark coat.. I will watching again tomorrow!! is too late
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 0:37:43 GMT -5
I've just finish to watch the episode and IMO was all perfect except for the last scene that made me very disappointed: Cat your man was badly injured you just took your things and walk away pissed off from the church. Now he is here with you asking for forgiveness for somthing that it was not his fault, you say that you are not mad at him but never ask him how he is going, if he is ok nor hug him? Cat is very cold in this season sometimes. I loved the bundle between Vin and Tess (it is the first time if I am not wrong I don't remember in S1 and S2 that they had previously worked together) to try to figure out whar was going on without worring Cat. I used to hate Heather for two season but now she is a good and loyal supporter that want only the best for her sister. Vincent speaking to Cat after she was kidnapped in the limousine: in this season he has very great lines he is ready to let all his feelings for her coming out in a very sweet mode. I think that JT speech was intentionally odd because that was not his real wedding speech that would be for VinCat real wedding. So everything before the walking to aisle went in a wrong way coz this was the wrong time for the marriage
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Jul 27, 2015 0:52:25 GMT -5
The rehearsal in the church, I agree with Catherine Chandler, ''They kept looking at each other without saying a word'' in their world Decaffeinated coffee is not coffee hahaha!! the way he took the cup of coffee (the first time with both hands ) superrrr You can call me Karen And it's true. Decaffeinated coffee is not coffee! I thought KK sounded like she had cold in the last scene. I like the bad guy too haha. The only thing that Liam was missing is flying
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jul 27, 2015 1:00:58 GMT -5
I didn't like the wedding build up. I sensed it wasn't going to happen, so dragging out the actual church scene annoyed me. ^ Yeah it was pretty obvy that it wasn't going to go down well, so it did feel like it went on forever. I think that's what I meant when I said it was awkward for me. Vincent speech about him hiding in the shawdows for ten years until she came along was for me his vows ^ He really did a good job with it, with a ton of emotion in his voice. ^ Yeah that was really gross. I guess to show the ferocity of this Liam monster dude. ^ When he was up on the buildings like that, I was like, who are you, Keanu Reeves?? Haha. Cat your man was badly injured you just took your things and walk away pissed off from the church. Now he is here with you asking for forgiveness for somthing that it was not his fault, you say that you are not mad at him but never ask him how he is going, if he is ok nor hug him? ^ I gave my reasons in my post for Cat being kind of stunned to silence. It was hard to read her mood, even for Vincent, I think. But I do agree with you that I wasn't understanding why she left the church? Was it safe? Was everyone okay? Would V know she's okay? Did she leave him a message? It seemed odd. Also, she's like all cleaned up, in flannel and drinking wine and V shows up with bloody clothes and I was looking for a reaction as well. He looked awful. Was he okay? And no, the whole day wasn't his fault. I don't think she blamed him for that. She saw that he was just trying to love her and marry her. I do think she was stunned by it all and just done, as she said, but I don't understand leaving the church like that. Then again, I have no idea how I would react on a day like that!
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Post by pippin on Jul 27, 2015 1:21:31 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to think about this episode. Can't say that the episode really did it for me, but I also know that I was hoping for a little more from this episode in particular and I did enjoy it more after watching a second time. But after the wow of Chasing Ghosts and the overall enjoyment of Both Sides Now, this one felt like eh for me. What I enjoyed: Vincent's speech outside the church - I thought it was the only scene that was somewhat emotional. I thought it was cute that Cat and Heather slept together and Cat hit her with the pillow, but what happened to Heather's old bedroom. Thought Heather was funny in her phone conversation with Vincent. "Yes" "That would be bad" "Understood" "OK Bye-bye." JT telling Juliana she was a pain in the ass and shooting her with the tranq, although she seemed to wake up quicker then Vincent has in the past JT and Heather showing some promising scene chemistry -- "And by we, I mean you." "Wait, why me?" JT and Tess's discreet conversation as they walked down the aisle-- "What do we do?" "Pray" Cat's hair, except for the wedding do and KK's ability to look great even with a "bloody" nose and busted lip Fight in the limo - but how did Juliana stay hidden right outside the precinct when everyone was supposed to be looking for her and she seemed to recover very quickly and fight rather well for someone who had just woken from a coma Way Liam killed Juliana -- appropriately brutal and gruesome The odd parts: Heather seemed to have acquired a bit of JT, even had a line about an ulcer and since when is she the worry wart of the sisters? Tess was Cat in their precinct scene Vincent was Cat in their end scene Cat is apparently made of tougher skin than Vincent and heals quicker Why didn't Vincent beast out? Is he too much in love and at peace now? Doctor Vincent isn't the one to check out the injured evidence guy Cat is concerned about Vincent at the church but then just leaves and doesn't seem concerned about his physical well-being even though he still looks beat up? Heather says Cats father is in prison. No Cat's father is dead. Heather even referred to their father in Chasing Ghosts as their dad With only 5 people at the rehearsal, why were there all those people at the rehearsal dinner? Who were all those people at the church and where were Cat's aunts? Did they refuse to come to the wedding after her outburst at the shower?
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Post by pippin on Jul 27, 2015 1:27:18 GMT -5
I thought KK sounded like she had cold in the last scene. I like the bad guy too haha. The only thing that Liam was missing is flying I thought Jay sounded like he had a cold through most of the episode. I wonder if that had something to do with that extremely dainty rehearsal scene kiss.
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