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Post by jefferen on Jul 22, 2015 9:40:59 GMT -5
It was for many of the reasons given here, it's been a while, I get into here only to read boards and leave. I Almost comment nothing or post  I know exactly how you feel. that's why I too was very silent on the board for a few months! I've always appreciated your posts! Xxo |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 9:59:45 GMT -5
I'm very sorry for the reasons of your leaving, I would feel less bad if it was mainly because you hate the show in such way that staying here is become pointless for you and not because you feel attacked by other people and, worst thing, not free to express yourself.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jul 22, 2015 10:44:36 GMT -5
WOW.............what is going on here?? I have been here since Katie and Karen started this BaTB Forum. I haven't posted as much as I did in the beginning but I am not sure why many are feeling put down? I know there were times of frustration and negativity in Season 2.....and many didn't want so much negativity for fear that we wouldn't get additional seasons, but now we got Season 3 AND Season 4. We should all be able to express our views, positive or negative without feeling backlash?? Honestly, I haven't really seen the kind of backlash that was evident in Season 2. I have a feeling like there is a lot of Private Messaging and conversations that are going on behind the scenes and most of us are left scratching our heads. If there are things going on between Mods and others, then that puts things into a different light. But when others are left scratching our heads and then BAM, many are leaving without some explanation it hurts everyone. I really would like to know what is the Main Issue here and can we all have some discussion without everyone feeling attacked? If you are bored with the show and not much engaged then I understand that. But for those active members who just decide to leave, it speaks to a bigger problem that some MODs and ADMINS should at least address. Please, if you care about this fandom, and this forum, I think it warrants at least a thread of discussion? I am asking the MODS and ADMINS to please shed some light on this situation or risk losing more Beasties. I really am saddened that there are underlying issues that maybe could be improved upon.  |
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Post by batb4evr1 on Jul 22, 2015 11:07:32 GMT -5
WOW.............what is going on here?? I have been here since Katie and Karen started this BaTB Forum. I haven't posted as much as I did in the beginning but I am not sure why many are feeling put down? I know there were times of frustration and negativity in Season 2.....and many didn't want so much negativity for fear that we wouldn't get additional seasons, but now we got Season 3 AND Season 4. We should all be able to express our views, positive or negative without feeling backlash?? Honestly, I haven't really seen the kind of backlash that was evident in Season 2. I have a feeling like there is a lot of Private Messaging and conversations that are going on behind the scenes and most of us are left scratching our heads. If there are things going on between Mods and others, then that puts things into a different light. But when others are left scratching our heads and then BAM, many are leaving without some explanation it hurts everyone. I really would like to know what is the Main Issue here and can we all have some discussion without everyone feeling attacked? If you are bored with the show and not much engaged then I understand that. But for those active members who just decide to leave, it speaks to a bigger problem that some MODs and ADMINS should at least address. Please, if you care about this fandom, and this forum, I think it warrants at least a thread of discussion? I am asking the MODS and ADMINS to please shed some light on this situation or risk losing more Beasties. I really am saddened that there are underlying issues that maybe could be improved upon. , jefferen, @luna76, Reyna and fairydreams, I love you women so!!! If it did not come out in my last post, I totally agree with Season 4 Suzie! This is absolutely saddening to see. An internal meltdown of what was an fantastic forum and I have never participated in one before SEO. Transparency regarding what is going on is needed or what would be hurtful for this beloved forum will be more supporters will either leave entirely or go to radio silence. How sad this would be for such a promising and welcoming forum. This would not speak well for this site before our naysayers, haters and any industry onlookers. |
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Post by Reyna on Jul 22, 2015 11:19:32 GMT -5
WOW.............what is going on here?? I have been here since Katie and Karen started this BaTB Forum. I haven't posted as much as I did in the beginning but I am not sure why many are feeling put down? I know there were times of frustration and negativity in Season 2.....and many didn't want so much negativity for fear that we wouldn't get additional seasons, but now we got Season 3 AND Season 4. We should all be able to express our views, positive or negative without feeling backlash?? Honestly, I haven't really seen the kind of backlash that was evident in Season 2. I have a feeling like there is a lot of Private Messaging and conversations that are going on behind the scenes and most of us are left scratching our heads. If there are things going on between Mods and others, then that puts things into a different light. But when others are left scratching our heads and then BAM, many are leaving without some explanation it hurts everyone. I really would like to know what is the Main Issue here and can we all have some discussion without everyone feeling attacked? If you are bored with the show and not much engaged then I understand that. But for those active members who just decide to leave, it speaks to a bigger problem that some MODs and ADMINS should at least address. Please, if you care about this fandom, and this forum, I think it warrants at least a thread of discussion? I am asking the MODS and ADMINS to please shed some light on this situation or risk losing more Beasties. I really am saddened that there are underlying issues that maybe could be improved upon.
My best guess would be some are feeling disheartened that our current season is not integrating those elements we received in the past two seasons. In all honesty, there is no guarantee that we will see those elements during these last six episodes of our current season. However, provided that we have been granted a fourth season, they are presented with an opportunity to vocalize to the writers how much they would love to see these elements in season four, potentially season five as I have stated quite a few times now.
Further, many seem to be under the impression that they are being silenced, attacked, dictated to, which is not the case here. Which is why I agree with you when you had stated many conversations are going on behind the scenes where some had reached the conclusion they are feeling excluded, prompting them to leave. |
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Post by batb4evr1 on Jul 22, 2015 11:39:30 GMT -5
WOW.............what is going on here?? I have been here since Katie and Karen started this BaTB Forum. I haven't posted as much as I did in the beginning but I am not sure why many are feeling put down? I know there were times of frustration and negativity in Season 2.....and many didn't want so much negativity for fear that we wouldn't get additional seasons, but now we got Season 3 AND Season 4. We should all be able to express our views, positive or negative without feeling backlash?? Honestly, I haven't really seen the kind of backlash that was evident in Season 2. I have a feeling like there is a lot of Private Messaging and conversations that are going on behind the scenes and most of us are left scratching our heads. If there are things going on between Mods and others, then that puts things into a different light. But when others are left scratching our heads and then BAM, many are leaving without some explanation it hurts everyone. I really would like to know what is the Main Issue here and can we all have some discussion without everyone feeling attacked? If you are bored with the show and not much engaged then I understand that. But for those active members who just decide to leave, it speaks to a bigger problem that some MODs and ADMINS should at least address. Please, if you care about this fandom, and this forum, I think it warrants at least a thread of discussion? I am asking the MODS and ADMINS to please shed some light on this situation or risk losing more Beasties. I really am saddened that there are underlying issues that maybe could be improved upon.
My best guess would be some are feeling disheartened that our current season is not integrating those elements we received in the past two seasons. In all honesty, there is no guarantee that we will during these last six episodes of our current season. However, provided that we have been granted a fourth season, they are presented with an opportunity to vocalize to the writers how much they would love to see these elements in season four, potentially season five as I have stated quite a few times now.
Further, many seem to be under the impression that they are being silenced, attacked, dictated to, which is not the case here. Which is why I agree with you when you had stated many conversations are going on behind the scenes where some had reached the conclusion they are feeling excluded, prompting them to leave., excellent best guess! But going in we knew that our VinCat would have to grow or part and die. They are not the same characters they were in the beginning nor should they be. They have grown and learned and are still learning. They were meant to progress toward their destiny and they have to be up to the task. Their love, which is the foundation, has been tested and has grown. They are no longer scared young adults but stronger mature adults preparing together to face their destiny! Are their still sides of them we originally met? Absolutely and those sides periodically come out and we are endeared to them. I personally think we'll love VinCat more and more as we finish this Season and enter the next. But also, my feeling is that I do not want this show to remain on without purpose and well written episodes although the writers may miss the target now and again. But we must let the writers write until they can no longer provide anything valid and worthy of these characters. Then the saga must end, but beautiful and lastingly in our minds and hearts to remember fondly. Wanting to see traces of the persons we fell for is not wrong in itself but growth must and will occur and this is not wrong or bad. Those we love are always still there as they grow and change for the better! We should want this for those we care for. |
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Post by Reyna on Jul 22, 2015 11:43:16 GMT -5
My best guess would be some are feeling disheartened that our current season is not integrating those elements we received in the past two seasons. In all honesty, there is no guarantee that we will during these last six episodes of our current season. However, provided that we have been granted a fourth season, they are presented with an opportunity to vocalize to the writers how much they would love to see these elements in season four, potentially season five as I have stated quite a few times now.
Further, many seem to be under the impression that they are being silenced, attacked, dictated to, which is not the case here. Which is why I agree with you when you had stated many conversations are going on behind the scenes where some had reached the conclusion they are feeling excluded, prompting them to leave., excellent best guess! But going in we knew that our VinCat would have to grow or part and die. They are not the same characters they were in the beginning nor should they be. They have grown and learned and are still learning. They were meant to progress toward their destiny and they have to be up to the task. Their love, which is the foundation, has been tested and has grown. They are no longer scared young adults but stronger mature adults preparing together to face their destiny! Are their still sides of them we originally met? Absolutely and those sides periodically come out and we are endeared to them. I personally think we'll love VinCat more and more as we finish this Season and enter the next. But also, my feeling is that I do not want this show to remain on without purpose and well written episodes although the writers may miss the target now and again. Wanting to see traces of the persons we fell for is not wrong in itself but growth must and will occur and this is not wrong or bad. Those we love are always still there as they grow and change for the better! We should want this for those we care for.  You are spot on batb4evr1. |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jul 22, 2015 11:52:00 GMT -5
WOW.............what is going on here?? I have been here since Katie and Karen started this BaTB Forum. I haven't posted as much as I did in the beginning but I am not sure why many are feeling put down? I know there were times of frustration and negativity in Season 2.....and many didn't want so much negativity for fear that we wouldn't get additional seasons, but now we got Season 3 AND Season 4. We should all be able to express our views, positive or negative without feeling backlash?? Honestly, I haven't really seen the kind of backlash that was evident in Season 2. I have a feeling like there is a lot of Private Messaging and conversations that are going on behind the scenes and most of us are left scratching our heads. If there are things going on between Mods and others, then that puts things into a different light. But when others are left scratching our heads and then BAM, many are leaving without some explanation it hurts everyone. I really would like to know what is the Main Issue here and can we all have some discussion without everyone feeling attacked? If you are bored with the show and not much engaged then I understand that. But for those active members who just decide to leave, it speaks to a bigger problem that some MODs and ADMINS should at least address. Please, if you care about this fandom, and this forum, I think it warrants at least a thread of discussion? I am asking the MODS and ADMINS to please shed some light on this situation or risk losing more Beasties. I really am saddened that there are underlying issues that maybe could be improved upon.
My best guess would be some are feeling disheartened that our current season is not integrating those elements we received in the past two seasons. In all honesty, there is no guarantee that we will during these last six episodes of our current season. However, provided that we have been granted a fourth season, they are presented with an opportunity to vocalize to the writers how much they would love to see these elements in season four, potentially season five as I have stated quite a few times now.
Further, many seem to be under the impression that they are being silenced, attacked, dictated to, which is not the case here. Which is why I agree with you when you had stated many conversations are going on behind the scenes where some had reached the conclusion they are feeling excluded, prompting them to leave.I don't always post everything I am thinking because frankly, I feel like I am "a day late, and a dollar short"........because we in the US see it 4 DAYS later, there is so much discussion of the episode that by the time I see it, the comments have died down and there is little nice back and forth like there was in Season 1. I truly wish we all got to see the episode together and then our first impressions could be spontaneous and full of initial excitement. I try not to get spoiled too much but I probably know more than I want to and therefore the initial kick of the episode gets watered down. That is my fault, but I notice that there is just little conversation on the forum now that BATB is shown on Sunday. That is my biggest Beef about this season. Anyway, I still don't understand where all the discussion is about people having their opinions stifled? If people are commenting and leaving because they are feeling some backlash or disrespect, where is it? I know I am not that dense, but please help me understand? I think if you make posts saying how things have changed for the worse, and some of us don't see it, then it makes the rest of us look like we contributed! I don't know if I am making myself clear, but I am not seeing the level of "negativity" here like there was in Season 2. And I confess, I was negative about Season 2 and others really came down on those of us who post less than "happy" feelings. Did I feel attacked,........yes and I was. But, I tried to explain why I felt the way I did and others did the same and then you just agree to disagree........or you try to take it to PM to work it out. But NOW.............I still say "what is going on?" Again, would the MODS and ADMINS help in the situation. Maybe we need to come to a better understanding. I think this forum is so great. I have met so many caring individuals and I love reading so many different points of view. We all have one thing in common and we love the show (some more than others) and we all see things differently. It is a great exercise in sharing points of view. I think that even if we disagree, we all can share some common ground. I sincerely ask for those who want to leave to reconsider. We care about you. At least help us to understand. That is all I ask. Thanks! |
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Post by NotOnTv on Jul 22, 2015 11:53:02 GMT -5
I don't quite understand.
I probably wrote one of the harshest reviews on the last episode on this board. I am not sure but shall I now feel attacked by those who disagree with my review or feelings about it? Shall I feel offended by those who counter my opinion? Why? I never felt under any attack on this board because I don't feel attacked by other peoples opinion regardless if it's a positive or a negative one. I never once felt silenced on this board (publicly or privately). So I guess it's also a matter of perspective.
It is a TV show, it all should be fun. Not taken personally.
Also, I try to not be repetetive. I haven't been on this board for a long time but sometimes I feel like folks are trying to convince other people that their opinion is the right one by hammering things in and repeating themselves. Discussions are going nowhere and eventually do have to end somewhere and that is okay for me because we all view things differently so we cannot be discussing the same subject till cows come home expecting a certain result. There should be no result. This is a free open forum where everyone should be allowed to have their say.
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Post by jefferen on Jul 22, 2015 12:12:54 GMT -5
I don't quite understand. I probably wrote one of the harshest reviews on the last episode on this board. I am not sure but shall I now feel attacked by those who disagree with my review or feelings about it? Shall I feel offended by those who counter my opinion? Why? I never felt under any attack on this board because I don't feel attacked by other peoples opinion regardless if it's a positive or a negative one. I never once felt silenced on this board (publicly or privately). So I guess it's also a matter of perspective. It is a TV show, it all should be fun. Not taken personally. Also, I try to not be repetetive. I haven't been on this board for a long time but sometimes I feel like folks are trying to convince other people that their opinion is the right one by hammering things in and repeating themselves. Discussions are going nowhere and eventually do have to end somewhere and that is okay for me because we all view things differently so we cannot be discussing the same subject till cows come home expecting a certain result. There should be no result. This is a free open forum where everyone should be allowed to have their say. Your last paragraph!!! I think thats the core of the issues. Is that people take people's posts too personally. They can't see beyond their own opinions. And when people can't see beyond their own opinions it the starting seed that causes division among the fanbase. For the most part, I generally try to respect other people's opinions. That's why when I post I always say I think, or I feel or IMO. We all have our rights to our own opinions. The only thing that bothers is when its all negativity period. We all were so excited for Season 3 to air, we waited a year, and then to not enjoy or to be all negative is heartbreaking. My initial post was about the negativity, seeing beyond your own opinions and just the fact that instead of negativity all the time, we should be grateful and happy that we even still even have BATB. |
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Post by batb4evr1 on Jul 22, 2015 12:15:07 GMT -5
My Girls!!! Reyna, Suzieq ❤️ Beastie, jefferen, fairydreams, @luna76 and now NotOnTv! I am so loving you my Beastie personal Den.  We do not have agree to love and care for each other dearly! Those who are leaving and considering it please know this because it is true! For the record, did I absolutely love the entire Season 2, honestly NO but I remained hopeful and it eventually come around as things do in one way or another in life! |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jul 22, 2015 12:15:37 GMT -5
I don't quite understand. I probably wrote one of the harshest reviews on the last episode on this board. I am not sure but shall I now feel attacked by those who disagree with my review or feelings about it? Shall I feel offended by those who counter my opinion? Why? I never felt under any attack on this board because I don't feel attacked by other peoples opinion regardless if it's a positive or a negative one. I never once felt silenced on this board (publicly or privately). So I guess it's also a matter of perspective. It is a TV show, it all should be fun. Not taken personally. Also, I try to not be repetetive. I haven't been on this board for a long time but sometimes I feel like folks are trying to convince other people that their opinion is the right one by hammering things in and repeating themselves. Discussions are going nowhere and eventually do have to end somewhere and that is okay for me because we all view things differently so we cannot be discussing the same subject till cows come home expecting a certain result. There should be no result. This is a free open forum where everyone should be allowed to have their say. Again, I am as confused as you. I am not seeing any serious negativity or backlash in the Episode Threads.
My best guess would be some are feeling disheartened that our current season is not integrating those elements we received in the past two seasons. In all honesty, there is no guarantee that we will see those elements during these last six episodes of our current season. However, provided that we have been granted a fourth season, they are presented with an opportunity to vocalize to the writers how much they would love to see these elements in season four, potentially season five as I have stated quite a few times now.
Further, many seem to be under the impression that they are being silenced, attacked, dictated to, which is not the case here. Which is why I agree with you when you had stated many conversations are going on behind the scenes where some had reached the conclusion they are feeling excluded, prompting them to leave. And after Reyna's post.............. I am thinking maybe people are seeing that the interest is waning in the show and the forum has "changed" in that way and the comments are not too compelling? Someone made mention that there was a lot of "Negative" comments on Twitter? Maybe that is where these feelings are coming from? I don't know who or where the Twitter negativity is because I don't follow it? Is that true? I always see so much more excitement and enthusiasm when I do go on BaTB Twitter. Can someone address if that is part of the issue of why people are losing interest and feeling things have changed? I can't blame some for wanting more out of this show.......I think we all have things in our minds that we would like to see. It doesn't mean we are stuck in the Season 1 Bubble or anything, it just means we want to recapture that "spark" of emotion. I don't get that "spark" as much, because I am too spoiled before the episode, but I have enjoyed this season. I guess I am not as worried as I was before and I can relax more when watching. It doesn't mean I don't like it, .....it means my expectations are different. So, IMO, there are two issues,.......Forum members are feeling like their opinions are not respected and cannot voice their opinions or the BaTB is less engaged and the enthusiasm is diminished to the point that they don't feel as interested in discussing the show. Please correct me if I am way off base. But from my perspective this is what I am reading in the comments. If there are other issues, I think that it would be helpful to add some clarity because I hate to see this forum dissipate because of misunderstandings and hard feelings. At least we could try to bring forth some ways to make the forum better. It is totally worth it, IMO. |
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Post by Reyna on Jul 22, 2015 12:25:10 GMT -5
I don't quite understand. I probably wrote one of the harshest reviews on the last episode on this board. I am not sure but shall I now feel attacked by those who disagree with my review or feelings about it? Shall I feel offended by those who counter my opinion? Why? I never felt under any attack on this board because I don't feel attacked by other peoples opinion regardless if it's a positive or a negative one. I never once felt silenced on this board (publicly or privately). So I guess it's also a matter of perspective. It is a TV show, it all should be fun. Not taken personally. Also, I try to not be repetetive. I haven't been on this board for a long time but sometimes I feel like folks are trying to convince other people that their opinion is the right one by hammering things in and repeating themselves. Discussions are going nowhere and eventually do have to end somewhere and that is okay for me because we all view things differently so we cannot be discussing the same subject till cows come home expecting a certain result. There should be no result. This is a free open forum where everyone should be allowed to have their say. Your last paragraph!!! I think thats the core of the issues. Is that people take people's posts too personally. They can't see beyond their own opinions. And when people can't see beyond their own opinions it the starting seed that causes division among the fanbase. For the most part, I generally try to respect other people's opinions. That's why when I post I always say I think, or I feel or IMO. We all have our rights to our own opinions. The only thing that bothers is when its all negativity period. We all were so excited for Season 3 to air, we waited a year, and then to not enjoy or to be all negative is heartbreaking. My initial post was about the negativity, seeing beyond your own opinions and just the fact that instead of negativity all the time, we should be grateful and happy that we even still even have BATB.
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Post by batb4evr1 on Jul 22, 2015 12:26:15 GMT -5
I don't quite understand. I probably wrote one of the harshest reviews on the last episode on this board. I am not sure but shall I now feel attacked by those who disagree with my review or feelings about it? Shall I feel offended by those who counter my opinion? Why? I never felt under any attack on this board because I don't feel attacked by other peoples opinion regardless if it's a positive or a negative one. I never once felt silenced on this board (publicly or privately). So I guess it's also a matter of perspective. It is a TV show, it all should be fun. Not taken personally. Also, I try to not be repetetive. I haven't been on this board for a long time but sometimes I feel like folks are trying to convince other people that their opinion is the right one by hammering things in and repeating themselves. Discussions are going nowhere and eventually do have to end somewhere and that is okay for me because we all view things differently so we cannot be discussing the same subject till cows come home expecting a certain result. There should be no result. This is a free open forum where everyone should be allowed to have their say. Again, I am as confused as you. I am not seeing any serious negativity or backlash in the Episode Threads.
My best guess would be some are feeling disheartened that our current season is not integrating those elements we received in the past two seasons. In all honesty, there is no guarantee that we will see those elements during these last six episodes of our current season. However, provided that we have been granted a fourth season, they are presented with an opportunity to vocalize to the writers how much they would love to see these elements in season four, potentially season five as I have stated quite a few times now.
Further, many seem to be under the impression that they are being silenced, attacked, dictated to, which is not the case here. Which is why I agree with you when you had stated many conversations are going on behind the scenes where some had reached the conclusion they are feeling excluded, prompting them to leave. And after Reyna's post.............. I am thinking maybe people are seeing that the interest is waning in the show and the forum has "changed" in that way and the comments are not too compelling? Someone made mention that there was a lot of "Negative" comments on Twitter? Maybe that is where these feelings are coming from? I don't know who or where the Twitter negativity is because I don't follow it? Is that true? I always see so much more excitement and enthusiasm when I do go on BaTB Twitter. Can someone address if that is part of the issue of why people are losing interest and feeling things have changed? I can't blame some for wanting more out of this show.......I think we all have things in our minds that we would like to see. It doesn't mean we are stuck in the Season 1 Bubble or anything, it just means we want to recapture that "spark" of emotion. I don't get that because I am too spoiled before the episode, but I have enjoyed this season. I guess I am not as worried as I was before and I can relax more when watching. It doesn't mean I don't like it, .....it means my expectations are different. So, IMO, there are two issues,.......Forum members are feeling like their opinions are not respected and cannot voice their opinions or the BaTB is less engaged and the enthusiasm is diminished to the point that they don't feel as interested in discussing the show. Please correct me if I am way off base. But from my perspective this is what I am reading in the comments. If there are other issues, I think that it would be helpful to add some clarity because I hate to see this forum dissipate because of misunderstandings and hard feelings. At least we could try to bring forth some ways to make the forum better. It is totally worth it, IMO. , I think it's a little of column A and a little of column B. My private pleasure is Season 1 but that is my private place and but loving that doesn't mean I want to hold back the show or my Beasties friends and their right to their seasonal preferences. I love the progress of the show and no one should want to stop that for the sake of the actors and the writers. |
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Post by Andromeda03 on Jul 22, 2015 14:29:20 GMT -5
It has always been the policy of this forum to welcome both positive and critiquing (sometimes referred to as 'negative') opinions of episodes, seasons, or characters as long as it was done respectfully. The reason being, not everyone is going to be happy with everything all the time. And that is 100% okay, it's natural and to be expected. And it's also 100% okay if you are happy. Both are okay.
No one on the Staff has ever, to my knowledge, said anyone wasn't entitled to speak their mind on what they love or don't love of the season, or how the characters are acting, or writing. Of course the Admins have always, ever since this forum began, just asked that it be done respectfully and without name calling or bashing. Whether you are happy with what's happening with the current season, or past seasons, or not, you are all still fans and are all still welcome here.
But what I think is happening, again like in season 2, is that the people who are expressing the 'dislike' side of opinion are feeling like they are unwelcome by other members who have a more 'like' side of opinion. And quite possibly the other way around as well. Which IMO is very saddening. No one should feel unwelcome simply because they didn't love an episode. Or even because they liked it. Either or, doesn't matter. They have the right to like it or not like it. And if they don't have anything they liked about the episode, they are more than welcome to not have had anything they liked. If they liked everything, that's great too. You're entitled to like or not like what you want.
As a whacky example, I don't like Star Wars, and I'm not going to ever watch any of the movies. Saw a trailer/fan video and just didn't like it. And others love them! And you're more than welcome to love them, and be passionate and not understand why I don't like them. But I don't have to like them, that is the beauty of free will, and it is more than acceptable for me to say I don't like them. Random, I know...but I'm illustrating a point here. No one is going to like the same things all the time. There are just times when you just don't like something and have nothing good to say about that something.
This feeling some have expressed of people needing to balance 'like' with 'dislike', it's not just always possible. And you know what, that's okay. And for those who have left, I'm so very sorry that they felt they had to make that decision. It makes me very sad they were put in that position, no matter their reasons.
I know some of you discussed possible things going on behind the scene, and I just want to state that I am not personally aware of anything going on behind the scenes. So I can not really speak to that, because if something is, it's not involved me and I've not been reached out to about it. But what I can say is that if anyone is making you feel unwelcome, on the forum or in PM's, I highly recommend contacting Katie and Karen or even a Mod directly with your concerns. You are also more than welcome to contact all of us at once, or even just those you're comfortable PM'ing.
I know some have mentioned that the forum just doesn't feel like it used to, and is becoming restrictive, so in response to that I would be happy to listen to anyone wanting to speak about these situations and concerns. Plus this is the 'everything' thread...so I suppose here might be an okay place to address the concerns if you feel comfortable doing so. If you are not, my PM box is always open, or you're always welcome to contact Katie and Karen directly with these concerns. We can not address something that no one's made us aware of, so please share your thoughts with us.
If I've missed any talking points, please feel free to let me know.
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