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Post by yfaruqi on Nov 13, 2013 10:11:07 GMT -5
Sorry for rambling a bit just had to get it off my chest. I don't know if anyone else feels this way but so far the moral of season 2 has been that if you are in a relation-ship don't forget about family and friends as relation-ships can change but family and friends are forever. That's actually a good thing in real life although doesn't make for a good fairy tale. Catherine isn't really a young girl who fell for a bad guy she is a grown woman in fact who is strong and smart and Vincent (1.0 at least) isn't a bad guy, much better than Gabe who was selfish and was ready to kill Cat, Vincent and her girlfriend to save himself. Yes somehow his beast side died (which was responsible for those actions and not him) and now he is good and noble not to mention he is now pursuing to be running in between Vincent and Catherine. I'm trying to look at it from Tess's perspective about how she seems to be treating Cat as because she is in love with Vincent that's bad for her and to be with Gabe would be a more healthy and normal relation-ship...yes things haven't been good for Vincent or Cat but it's not because they love each other. Vincent may not have his memories but Cat certainly does and so does the viewers. Anyway enough of negativity let's hope we have some good episodes coming up there is plenty of season 2 left still...
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 13, 2013 11:55:45 GMT -5
Yfaruqi, it's nice to know new beasties who just joined our fandom! I have the feeling many like you are joining the family and that's great!!
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Post by yfaruqi on Nov 13, 2013 12:17:16 GMT -5
Yfaruqi, it's nice to know new beasties who just joined our fandom! I have the feeling many like you are joining the family and that's great!! Thank you, it's good to join the beasties. I missed the first season while it was on air but glad to see it was renewed largely due to the fan base from what I gathered, and hopefully we will get a few more seasons at least.
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Post by DayaBEASTS4 on Nov 13, 2013 12:53:33 GMT -5
I MISS ALMOST EVERYTHING I DON'T MISS-----> TESS affair I think that the writers only have to do is: -Give more participation to Vincent .... show more his powers and more participation on fight sequences .. -Dont kill EVAN -Show Muirfield more rugged and strong as a powerful organization that was They should mix S1 with S2.. can you imagine!!!
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Post by solveig on Nov 13, 2013 13:14:28 GMT -5
Hi! I've been lurking here for quite some time, and now I've finally decided to sign up just to say that I agree with everything that has been mentioned in this thread! I miss the same things you do, and I guess many other fans are feeling the same way right now. So, when do we start trending #BringBackBatBMagic?
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Post by kiki09 on Nov 13, 2013 14:15:30 GMT -5
Personally I think patience is a virtue, but let's wait and see where the last two eps take us.
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Post by feezya on Nov 13, 2013 16:36:07 GMT -5
and if it's still the same, let's use the 6 weeks hiatus to vent out steam by letting TPTB what we feel. at least we have something useful to do than wait
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Post by kiki09 on Nov 16, 2013 13:58:07 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I don't necessarily miss things from s1. They were the way they were because of the circumstances each character was is.
But what I do think is that fans want things to happen too soon and too fast and are actually too demanding IMO.
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Post by Nelly on Nov 16, 2013 18:51:48 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I don't necessarily miss things from s1. They were the way they were because of the circumstances each character was is. But what I do think is that fans want things to happen too soon and too fast and are actually too demanding IMO. … and I have to agree with you 100%!
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Post by ArwenFan on Dec 10, 2013 23:12:04 GMT -5
I am going to try to verbalize what is bugging me about Season 2. First, I would not have minded the faster pace or the energized filming if it had substance. The biggest pain in my ass is that this season has been all flash bang grenades and nothing else. Take the introduction of Catherine's father. They could have done so much with the character and given him a meaty storyline that could have been engaging, but they wasted precious time having him skulking around on the perimeter "handling" Vincent without any real purpose or payoff. I'm sorry that whole line of bull he spewed in "Man or Beast" was unimaginative drivel. The writers relied on the barest back story for Reynolds, one that made no sense in context with what had already been revealed about Catherine's family life. And every explanation they gave about why Reynolds was MIA for 29 years was poorly crafted and just seemed tacked on to give the illusion of a well thought out plot. Second, what was the point of bringing Gabe back? I'm serious. If the plan is to give Catherine a love interest other than Vincent, couldn't they have introduced a brand new character...one whose job isn't in law enforcement? I mean how difficult would it have been to think of that? Back to Gabe, if the writers (from now on called Team BaTB) manage to pull a miracle out of their butts and give Gabe a real purpose--one that is unexpected and turns out to be interesting to boot--I'll eat my hat. But since I have no faith in the current writing staff, I'm pretty sure my hats are safe. Third, the ill-use of JT has been criminal. Yes, I know he is a secondary character, as is Tess, but he is wildly more popular than she is (at least in my book) and better writers would be able to give him, Tess and even Gabe (if we're stuck with him) something to do that is independent of sticking their noses in Vincent and Catherine's business all the time. Personally, I think they all need a "time out" from each other, including Team BaTB. Now to the heart of the problem. Vincent and Catherine. No one will argue against them being the heart and soul of the show, and Team BaTB have just ripped them apart. The palpable chemistry between KK and JR is sorely missing this season. I don't recognize Vincent this season and I sure don't like this reincarnation of him. (I still love Vincent, but I don't like what has been done to him, to Catherine, their relationship or their romance.) There is such a thing as pushing the envelope too far and I'm afraid this season's show handlers have done just that. Tori is pretty much the last straw for me. I have nothing good to say about Tori, so I'll just leave it at she's just more of the same. Shock and awe; another contrived plot device to mix things up and I'm tired of things being mixed up for the sake of mixing. I am surprised that Brad Kern is now HMFIC because he was the show-runner on Charmed for its entire run and that show had continuity and character development and a plan. WTF happened here? I miss where Vincent and Catherine where heading. I miss their chemistry; the way they could make even the smallest moment intimate, special, magical. I miss the tenderness and sweetness between them. I miss them fighting for each other. I'm upset. The focus should have stayed on Vincent and Catherine together. Whoever decided that wasn't good enough made a big--HUGE--mistake. Last year this time I was wearing out my pre-January episodes. This year, I cannot bring myself to watch this crap more than once.
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Post by ArwenFan on Dec 11, 2013 9:59:31 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I don't necessarily miss things from s1. They were the way they were because of the circumstances each character was is. But what I do think is that fans want things to happen too soon and too fast and are actually too demanding IMO. I can't speak for all fans, but this fan expected better plot construction, better handling of the characters and a story arc (if that's what they're calling it) that gives the appearance that someone actually studied Writing 101. One step forward and three steps back don't work for me, especially when the three steps back pretend that the events of season one didn't exist, or were so insignificant that now they can be open to all kinds of wild (read unbelievable) interpretation this season. Rehashing the same old conversations again and again does not move the story along and makes me think TPTB have no idea how to fill 43 minutes with compelling episodes. It doesn't take a lot of screen time to bring the audience up to speed about what actually happened to Vincent during his abduction, or show rather than tell of Catherine's unraveling grip on her life. Killing Thomas and firing Joe off screen sucked. Both characters deserved better than that. Never fleshing out Vanessa's story through flashbacks was a mistake IMO. I'm left not knowing or understanding the woman, or the choices she made that are having such devastating effect on Catherine's life. Development of Catherine has stalled in a big way. Ditto for Vincent. Last year Muirfield was the big bad and the way they closed that out this season was pathetic. There was so much wrong with Bob Reynolds and his role that I don't know where to begin. Everybody knows I've never liked Tess, but the lines they've given her this year were ridiculous and annoying to the 10th power. Gabe should have been left on the terrace with bullet holes in his chest because his presence this year makes no sense. If TPTB are developing a story for him when are they going to start revealing it--episode 19? I don't expect any subtly or finesse in the scripts at this point, and for me that's disheartening because there are a lot of episodes to go. Once you've taken a wrecking ball to the foundation of the story, there's not much more to do except rebuild or walk away. I have no faith that the rebuild will be anything I want to live with. I'm sticking it out until season's end, but if by some sprinkle of fairy dust they get a third season and things have not improved 100%, I'm done.
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Post by batbfann on Jan 22, 2014 19:08:36 GMT -5
I miss this!! ugh my heart
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2014 10:14:41 GMT -5
I don't need words...........although I loved when Vincent was on the subway with Cat : (thanks Yolie for the clip) www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhkno9OM8S0&feature=youtu.beCat: "How do you always find me?"
Vincent: "I never stop looking"Vincent: "You know all those years that I was watching over you? Making sure you were safe. All I ever wanted was to meet you......to get to know you. So when you walked up those stairs that day in the warehouse........and you figured out who I was...........and I was begging you not to tell anyone...."
Cat: "I remember."
Vincent: "That was the Best Day of My Life.......!!"Then to bring it all home..........This is just so HEARTBREAKING for me now after Episode 2.10....... Vincent: "But I don't know what to do now, because.......I can't live without you"!THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is what should have NEVER been taken away..............You can separate the couple but you do not have to KILL the love story, which, IMO, they have in Season 2. I MISS THIS! I will never accept that the Vincent in Episode "Ancestors" has all his memories back.........because if he did he would never treat Catherine so viciously or spitefully. Nope,........I will never believe that. Because if the Vincent who said those words with all the memories of their LOVE , and acted the way he did in "Ancestors".....he would just be a monster and not worthy of Catherine's love ever again. I MISS the way they would looked at each other.......especially in this scene: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rOv599cfzg
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 24, 2014 10:28:06 GMT -5
I don't need words...........although I loved when Vincent was on the subway with Cat : (thanks Yolie for the clip) www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhkno9OM8S0&feature=youtu.beCat: "How do you always find me?"
Vincent: "I never stop looking"Vincent: "You know all those years that I was watching over you? Making sure you were safe. All I ever wanted was to meet you......to get to know you. So when you walked up those stairs that day in the warehouse........and you figured out who I was...........and I was begging you not to tell anyone...."
Cat: "I remember."
Vincent: "That was the Best Day of My Life.......!!"Then to bring it all home..........This is just so HEARTBREAKING for me now after Episode 2.10....... Vincent: "But I don't know what to do now, because.......I can't live without you"!THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is what should have NEVER been taken away..............You can separate the couple but you do not have to KILL the love story, which, IMO, they have in Season 2. I MISS THIS! I will never accept that the Vincent in Episode "Ancestors" has all his memories back.........because if he did he would never treat Catherine so viciously or spitefully. Nope,........I will never believe that. Because if the Vincent who said those words with all the memories of their LOVE , and acted the way he did in "Ancestors".....he would just be a monster and not worthy of Catherine's love ever again. I MISS the way they would looked at each other.......especially in this scene: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rOv599cfzgOne of my favourite scenes top 5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 21:47:24 GMT -5
I miss so many things. The characters integrity and depth. Gabe having a purpose. Tess being a woman and a professional, not a silly teenager that only thinks about finding a warm body. JT being the voice of reason, not the nerd guy that changes his opinion about people like changing clothes. Catherine (I don't even need to say what I miss about her, it's on the screen). The scar, badly. Vincent doing everything to be close to Catherine and being a good man that feels guilty for killing people. At this point, I think I miss even Joe and I didn't like him a bit. I think I miss everything.
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