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Post by oa on Jan 23, 2013 20:06:01 GMT -5
oh god, im getting kinda mix signals here... i really dont know how this would end up being ok... i think that even knowing that they will eventually be together there will always be the, the writers could have done this differently and better, sour taste in our mouths with this valex story.
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Post by evanarose on Jan 24, 2013 2:36:00 GMT -5
hahha, lol on vincent being the beauty and cat the beast! true that the beauty comes before the beast! Lol! That just made me think what if they had an episode where somehow they switched places?! It's abit cliche, I know and done quite alot! Though I wonder how Jay or Kristin will act to the challenge? Like if Cat woke up one day, looking in the mirror- seeing Jays' body and vice versa?! I think that would be interesting though...not only from the actors pov...but seeing the characters through the process. Like vincat would probably have a better relationship if that happened! Also if there was a storyline where cat would deal with the beast aspect...Kristin act like the beast... That would be interesting!
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Post by hcastro on Jan 24, 2013 13:38:21 GMT -5
It's okay if there is overlap. The show is about Beauty and the Beast. So both of them being featured is to be expected in this show. However, Cat shouldn't turn into a Mary Sue character. I think that's dan's concern here. I think the cop aspect of Cat's job hasn't been written well so far. What have you really learned thanks to the cases? How she should give Vincent a chance...that's about it. As a result, I really have no interest in what happens at the precinct or any of the characters there. Cat wants to avenge her mother's death? Show me. Look at early Supernatural. I'm talking 1st or 2nd season before they decided to transition the show to demon hunting and then angels... You had clear storytelling that showed you why Sam and Dean did what they were doing - to avenge their mother (and for Sam, his fiancee as well). Look at Grimm first and second season, that is a fine example of a supernatural police procedural on TV right now. That show makes it work. Also, even though "Nick" is the main character, all of the other characters have defined personalities. On BATB, so far, we just have a bunch of stereotypes and the characters beyond Vincent and sorta Cat have no meat to them. I guess the closest would be JT. Tess is just around to go "Where have you been, Cat?" or "Who's the guy?" Oh and to try to keep throwing Cat at Evan... Heather is around to make Cat's life look boring...or, at least, to make Cat seem more virginal, level-headed, and mature since Heather is sleeping with everyone and acts really immature. Evan is around to make Vincent jealous...and I guess we're sort of now seeing that somehow a medical examiner has the time to track mutant DNA. Yeah, right. Maybe if he had other people working in the lab, but if the JT thing is to be believed...no one works there except Evan. Oh, except, that in that same episode, there's a shot of Evan and in the background is an extra in a lab coat...that extra conveniently disappears when it's time for JT to be in the lab. Oh, TPTB @ BATB and continuity...not their strong suit. Joe is around to show that there isn't one old person on the NYPD...not even the chief. Has anyone noticed they all look to be around the same age? Is this Dexter...? or Bones...? Oh and so he can tell everyone in a commanding voice to go out and do their jobs. Or to tell him what they've found out after like 30 seconds of getting on the scene. BTW, why is he going to crime scenes? Doesn't he know that his position is mostly a desk job...unless it's high profile. And JT, the most flushed out character, has given up his social life to hang with Vincent and not really be in hiding at all. That's pretty much it. That's his character. Oh and suddenly he's becoming comical and less moody...despite the fact that they are still in hiding and now Muirfield knows Vincent is still in NYC. Because apparently he can't go anywhere else in the world then go back to where he was before the war...which is the first place anyone would look for him. And I'm sorry. What is on the show is not being in hiding. The fact that Vincent & JT live in a NYC warehouse is hiding? Um, what? They are off the grid? Really? JT teaches at a college and Cat and Tess found him in like 5 minutes. Plus JT Skypes at the warehouse and has internet so...not off the grid. Oh and his cell phone is always on. But I guess we should go with its off the grid because it's sort of run down. I mean it only has a few leather sofas and HD big screen TVs. The monstrosity!! So all we've had is Vincent's issues, Cat trying to help Vincent, and their love story. Now they are taking away their love story for 4 episodes...so we pretty much have nada. I really hope that Cat doesn't sit around thinking about Vincent and being all mopey these next 4 episodes. You know what would be nice? Cat does something, non-Vincent or JT-related and non-work related. I don't care if she's working on her needlework as long as I see that this girl has some sort of life beyond pining after Vincent. Okay, I think this has been ranty enough. I refrained from adding GIFs...but I almost think this post could've used them. haha. I will throw in the disclaimer that I enjoy this show despite its many flaws. I just hope that the PCA win encourages the writers to strive for better S/Ls so we can attract new viewers & keep the viewers we have, especially those with Nielson boxes. I don't want to see a show with this much potential cancelled. Jacki, I love your post and ITA. We already know this second half of the season will be Vincent centric, which I'm fine with. I really hope they flesh out Catherine's character as well. I want to see more of her back story, but I just don't think it will happen by the time this season ends. There is just way too much going on with Vincent/Ex, Vincent being sought out by all these baddies, etc.. But I'm hopeful we will get more of Catherine and her doing more than pining over Vincent, etc..
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Post by oa on Jan 24, 2013 17:33:08 GMT -5
hahha, lol on vincent being the beauty and cat the beast! true that the beauty comes before the beast! Lol! That just made me think what if they had an episode where somehow they switched places?! It's abit cliche, I know and done quite alot! Though I wonder how Jay or Kristin will act to the challenge? Like if Cat woke up one day, looking in the mirror- seeing Jays' body and vice versa?! I think that would be interesting though...not only from the actors pov...but seeing the characters through the process. Like vincat would probably have a better relationship if that happened! Also if there was a storyline where cat would deal with the beast aspect...Kristin act like the beast... That would be interesting! omg! couldnt stop laughing at what you said!!!! on the other hand it would be interesting to hear what they would say and what they would do!
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Post by dan on Jan 24, 2013 23:46:59 GMT -5
Guess it has been confirmed by the promo, for the next 3 episodes Cat will be whine about his feelings for Vincent to the shrink guy and Vincent`s story took the focus and spotlight of the show while Cat play second fiddle AGAIN!
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Post by oa on Jan 25, 2013 0:00:46 GMT -5
i think that when she says she cant fight against alex she is talking to jt not the shrink..... cause austin was saying that jt is a vincat shipper and that he was not pleased with vincent going on a "romantic getaway" with alex! so i hope i am right! although i am so mad at vincent right now that i would let murfield grab him and torture him a little and then, maybe then with some groveling get him back with cat! let him suffer a lot of pain slowly and long!
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Post by Fire And Ice on Jan 25, 2013 18:05:42 GMT -5
i think that when she says she cant fight against alex she is talking to jt not the shrink..... cause austin was saying that jt is a vincat shipper and that he was not pleased with vincent going on a "romantic getaway" with alex! so i hope i am right! although i am so mad at vincent right now that i would let murfield grab him and torture him a little and then, maybe then with some groveling get him back with cat! let him suffer a lot of pain slowly and long! YES!! I kind of want some Vincent torture. Sort of like Max in the white room in Roswell... It'd be neat to have to see Cat go and save Vincent with JT. True, they did that sort of in episode 4 (?) when he was going to turn himself in, but Vincent wasn't really in too much danger at that point. If Muirfield actually was able to subdue him and drag him off, that would be exciting to see!!! Plus, I'd love to see Cat's ingenuity in finding him with JT. Unfortunately, the writers would rather give us mopey emo stuff rather than any (a) VinCat romance -or- (b) action. Instead, we are getting more on Vincent and even Alex...soooooooooo stupid the last episode. She has a stalker? Um, k. Alex is a crazy person too. She's obsessed with Vincent.
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Post by fortywinks on Jan 25, 2013 18:19:20 GMT -5
hahha, lol on vincent being the beauty and cat the beast! true that the beauty comes before the beast! Lol! That just made me think what if they had an episode where somehow they switched places?! It's abit cliche, I know and done quite alot! Though I wonder how Jay or Kristin will act to the challenge? Like if Cat woke up one day, looking in the mirror- seeing Jays' body and vice versa?! I think that would be interesting though...not only from the actors pov...but seeing the characters through the process. Like vincat would probably have a better relationship if that happened! Also if there was a storyline where cat would deal with the beast aspect...Kristin act like the beast... That would be interesting! And soundtrack would be I Touch Myself by Divinyls? LOL. I'm sorry. Focus.
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Post by oa on Jan 25, 2013 18:21:16 GMT -5
hahahahahahahahahah that is what i is going through my mind CANT. STOP. LAUGHING! whew... i even cried!
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Post by fortywinks on Jan 25, 2013 18:28:30 GMT -5
Ok, for you, oa. ;D youtu.be/wv-34w8kGPMAdmins, please don't ban me. I'll behave, I promise. *puppy eye<edited>
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Post by oa on Jan 25, 2013 18:58:52 GMT -5
hahahaha, you didnt!!! lol that just made my night! hahahaha! thanks!
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Post by fortywinks on Jan 25, 2013 19:34:03 GMT -5
Anytime. Never again.
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Post by oa on Jan 25, 2013 19:56:42 GMT -5
save your membership girl! and you can "never again" do it via pm!
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Post by evanarose on Jan 25, 2013 23:23:26 GMT -5
Lol! That just made me think what if they had an episode where somehow they switched places?! It's abit cliche, I know and done quite alot! Though I wonder how Jay or Kristin will act to the challenge? Like if Cat woke up one day, looking in the mirror- seeing Jays' body and vice versa?! I think that would be interesting though...not only from the actors pov...but seeing the characters through the process. Like vincat would probably have a better relationship if that happened! Also if there was a storyline where cat would deal with the beast aspect...Kristin act like the beast... That would be interesting! And soundtrack would be I Touch Myself by Divinyls? LOL. I'm sorry. Focus. LOL omg! That track suits perfectly! I was just thinking of that Smallville scene, when Lionel was in Clark's body and how Tom Welling was admiring himself in the mirror! We need to see that! LOL Feeling the abs Touching the guns and lets stop there before imagination goes in over drive! Oh dear, this is totally off-topic too much focus on the beast! sorry! lol I do agree though, I think more in needing to see more emotional background from the beauty. I think we see too much procedural on her side...though I know her character is someone with 'closed walls' I think this will be explored more, particularly if there's a season 2..
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Post by oa on Jan 25, 2013 23:42:23 GMT -5
well lets just hope for the sake of tying loose ends and getting to really know the characters that we actually get a season 2!
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