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Post by jemangela on Feb 16, 2014 22:55:09 GMT -5
Just seen the episode .... I feel like I've fallen off a cliff and landed on some really sharp rocks but only got bruised (weird but true). I honestly don't know what to say, I'm still in shock - all the "free falling" has left my brain quite scrambled....I think I'll sleep now and hopefully be a bit more coherent when I wake up later in the day (it's almost 6am on the bed of rocks I now lay bruised and going )....man, BatB is going to be the death of me ...weird really, but sometimes I feel like I'm in an abusive relationship with BatB but I just can't leave #fanaticallyhookedonBatB
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Post by bookworm on Feb 16, 2014 22:56:37 GMT -5
There were 2 developments I liked about the ep:
-at least thanks to JT Vincent could lay his cards on the table. She knows he's working hard on being HUMAN for HER.
-now Gabe put his cards on the table, too: he gave her an ultimatum ------- something will happen next week! She will have to choose from the two men.
This whole episode was to show that Vincent has actually not given up hope like we thought last week (him walking away alone...) but he gave her some space but in the meanwhile he's working on himself! to change, to become a better man, person.
G/ C as expected- they are in a relationship. Gabe seemed understanding about V in the beginning but maybe he's getting fed up because her mind is not there and Gabe noticed too.
I understand some of you might feel disappointment because nothing happened betwen VinCat instead all we got was Gabe/Cat.... BUT didn't we more or less agree that they better not rush the part when VinCat finally get together? We need to believe that V has changed and that can't happen over 1 ep and then they get back together so quickly we won't notice how that happened.... I need to feel I can trust V again not to screw it up this time.
so i say even if I suffer from VinCat withdrawal I have to wait for it.
Catherine: she 's in denial about Gabe, not V. She really thinks she can manage the relationship and will be able to convince not only Gabe but herself that she's fine and this is what she wants.
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Post by Vincent Keller on Feb 16, 2014 22:56:53 GMT -5
Iiiiiii....do not like this ep.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 16, 2014 22:59:10 GMT -5
I think I am the only one that liked this episode. Of course I did not like the C/G kisses and neither her denial, even when JT broke his bro code. It's like she never listen JT telling what Vince do for wining her back. I tried to see the whole episode and not focus on vincat thing. They will back together in the next episodes I guess. I saw her being sad when Gabe makes her to choice neither him or Vince. It's kind of unfair. It's obvious to me that she tries enough to deny her feelings for Vince even to herself and pushes herself into a relationship to forget Vince. It's impossible if she loves him. She is so stubborn!
no i liked the episode too it was a weird feeling i got from it, can't quite explain yet will need to rewatch there were bits i really did not enjoy watching or bits that were a let down (such as the granny kisses and the jt and cat interaction which i expected to be more major) but i did like the episode
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Post by crazyforbatb_has season 3 on Feb 16, 2014 22:59:35 GMT -5
I think I am the only one that liked this episode. Of course I did not like the C/G kisses and neither her denial, even when JT broke his bro code. It's like she never listen JT telling what Vince do for wining her back. I tried to see the whole episode and not focus on vincat thing. They will back together in the next episodes I guess. I saw her being sad when Gabe makes her to choice neither him or Vince. It's kind of unfair. It's obvious to me that she tries enough to deny her feelings for Vince even to herself and pushes herself into a relationship to forget Vince. It's impossible if she loves him. She is so stubborn!
No you're not the only one. I liked it too and I said so. Just that I would have liked it a whole lot better if they didn't go there with the Gabe/C sex thing. I liked the pointers we are getting about the fact that no matter how they try to resist it, Vincent and Catherine are destined to LOVE each other and to be together and at least in that part this season agrees with season 1. I am looking forward to the development of the mythology and to seeing what V/C will do as a team in finding out about their connection and how they will work together in other ways too. There is so much potential for so many story lines I just hope the writers don't screw things up.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 16, 2014 22:59:55 GMT -5
Just seen the episode .... I feel like I've fallen off a cliff and landed on some really sharp rocks but only got bruised (weird but true). I honestly don't know what to say, I'm still in shock - all the "free falling" has left my brain quite scrambled....I think I'll sleep now and hopefully be a bit more coherent when I wake up later in the day (it's almost 6am on the bed of rocks I now lay bruised and going )....man, BatB is going to be the death of me ...weird really, but sometimes I feel like I'm in an abusive relationship with BatB but I just can't leave #fanaticallyhookedonBatB [/b] lol
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Post by raniamahd on Feb 16, 2014 22:59:59 GMT -5
oh no not Buffy and Angel again ! they couldn't succeed so why should C and V can ?! any way now we understand what Austin said in an interview that V was meant to be a beast ? he meant he has that gene , so what ? Gabe , Tori , Zach and every beast came in the show had it too , what we can take from these ?! so , she just wants Gabe because he isn't beast any more , she wants to have a relation with a complete normal man , but still she can't leave V's beast alone ? she uses him whenever she needs him ! ok , in some episodes they mange to make me really dislike V's character , and now they mange to make me feel the same for Cat's character , so shall we call it even and end this crap and go back to our old good show pleas <remove future spoiler> regarding gabe after watching this episode it is clear she does not want to be with him (even though she still is...sigh). she is slowly waking up i guess to the fact that she loves vincent. i dont know lol still processing the episode which was way too fast paced but i am sure about the above you know dear i trust you and i have no doubt in any thing you say , but my doubt is in your resources ? maybe again they said some thing has 2 meaning and we choose the meaning we like but not the true meaning , like Cat chat with shirtless V and the sexual tension , it happened but was just a dream , or may be they just want to calm us down till the end when we find out the truth ! remember all the assurance talk they gave us about Tori ? and then what ?! and for Gabe the show makers favorite character now i don't think we will get rid of him that easy , they insist to throw him into our faces over and over and it doesn't matter if Cat wants to be with him or not as long as she is still with him after all and doesn't do any thing to change that ! may be they will have sex in e15 but she will just cheat on Gabe with V and regrets it and goes back crawling to Gabe !
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 16, 2014 23:02:14 GMT -5
There were 2 developments I liked about the ep: -at least thanks to JT Vincent could lay his cards on the table. She knows he's working hard on being HUMAN for HER. -now Gabe put his cards on the table, too: he gave her an ultimatum ------- something will happen next week! She will have to choose from the two men. This whole episode was to show that Vincent has actually not given up hope like we thought last week (him walking away alone...) but he gave her some space but in the meanwhile he's working on himself! to change, to become a better man, person. G/ C as expected- they are in a relationship. Gabe seemed understanding about V in the beginning but maybe he's getting fed up because her mind is not there and Gabe noticed too. I understand some of you might feel disappointment because nothing happened betwen VinCat instead all we got was Gabe/Cat.... BUT didn't we more or less agree that they better not rush the part when VinCat finally get together? We need to believe that V has changed and that can't happen over 1 ep and then they get back together so quickly we won't notice how that happened.... I need to feel I can trust V again not to screw it up this time. so i say even if I suffer from VinCat withdrawal I have to wait for it. Catherine: she 's in denial about Gabe, not V. She really thinks she can manage the relationship and will be able to convince not only Gabe but herself that she's fine and this is what she wants.
[/b] yes i agree with all and the one in bold is really well put
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 23:03:17 GMT -5
I really disliked Catherine when Vincent said that he was trying to save the Jacob in the hospital and she told him to leave that to the real doctors.....so thoughtless!!!!! However, not 30 minutes before she told him in the hospital that she liked seeing his old self, when he was helping the young boy who had been misdiagnosed.
No wonder my head is spinning!!!!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 16, 2014 23:03:54 GMT -5
they definitely make love in 215 and i believe they dont get together till 216 in 215 cat goes to his house and that is when they do it regarding gabe after watching this episode it is clear she does not want to be with him (even though she still is...sigh). she is slowly waking up i guess to the fact that she loves vincent. i dont know lol still processing the episode which was way too fast paced but i am sure about the above you know dear i trust you and i have no doubt in any thing you say , but my doubt is in your resources ? maybe again they said some thing has 2 meaning and we choose the meaning we like but not the true meaning , like Cat chat with shirtless V and the sexual tension , it happened but was just a dream , or may be they just want to calm us down till the end when we find out the truth ! remember all the assurance talk they gave us about Tori ? and then what ?! and for Gabe the show makers favorite character now i don't think we will get rid of him that easy , they insist to throw him into our faces over and over and it doesn't matter if Cat wants to be with him or not as long as she is still with him after all and doesn't do any thing to change that ! may be they will have sex in e15 but she will just cheat on Gabe with V and regrets it and goes back crawling to Gabe ! we will find out in 2 weeks but i am sure about these two episodes, i would put money on these two things happening, no doubts in my mind, making love and relationship
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Post by jennieheartsbatb on Feb 16, 2014 23:07:30 GMT -5
Okay no one shoot me for saying this buuuuut: I get being frustrated with the show, I KNOW I AM FOR SURE, but the way I see the writers wanted to explore this love by showing Catherine and Vincent on kind of two opposite sides of a spectrum. Catherine who's basically good and Vincent who's basically bad (or was). After watching this episode I could see how the writers are trying to navigate the characters to meet in the middle of this imaginary spectrum. As Vincent tries to "redeem" himself and move towards Catherine and Catherine (after killing the other beast), not becoming bad per se but becoming more understanding of what Vincent had done. So by next episode I can see how these two characters can meet in the middle (kind of balancing each other out) and reunite. As for the sex thing, totally agree it made me nauseas too, but I see it as the characters trying to make their other "relationships" work and attempting to let go of each other. Sex is not the most important part of a relationship but it does represent a physical, emotional, and mental connection with another person and I think the writers wanted to show even when Catherine and Vincent had done that with other significant others they were still drawn to each other, like destiny and kismet. I agree I wish the writers could've shown it in a different way without having the characters just sleep with other people but I always got to remember that the characters are human and sadly humans make mistakes and that includes sleeping with other people in an attempt to move on even when you know deep down inside you're in undeniably in love with someone else. I see Catherine and Gabe similar to that movie "The Notebook", where Allie knows she should be with that lawyer guy (whom she's perfect with) but she follows her heart and goes with Noah because they were meant to be, even if the relationship wasn't as perfect (sometimes love isn't pretty :/). As for Vincent and Tori it was instinctual it was engrained in them. So when Vincent chose Catherine (before Tori died of course lol), that's tough. Thats like being told all your life you're "supposed" to be with this person, you're just supposed to, and going against all that and choosing someone else. Through all this nitty gritty the Beast will find his Beauty and we WILL get the EPIC LOVE of Beauty and the Beast (because god knows this relationship has definitely been through hell and back). EDIT: Can you guys tell I'm an eternal optimistic LOL. Very well said!! You nailed it!! Yes, you are an Eternal Optimist. It's a good thing. Welcome to my Happy Beastieland! Wanna pick a unicorn?
LOL. Yes I will pick a unicorn and take all the #beasties back to Beastieland, where Vincent is always shirtless and he and Catherine have 3 cross species children (JT, Tess, and Gabe) plus a dog named Windsor. After the Tori Windsor character, KIDDING! KIDDING! That was mean of me LOL. Sorry!
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Post by crazyforbatb_has season 3 on Feb 16, 2014 23:07:32 GMT -5
Well chicas/amies we can arrange a time and place in Toronto where we can meet and have a private theatre where we can replay all and any hot Vincent scenes and VinCat love scenes ona very large screen. And ladies....wait for it....hopefully by that time my scientist (oh hello Muirfield) will have made three perfect Vincent clones and we don't have to share. Oh what a night it will be and then we get to take him home with us I'm not sure how our husbands will feel about that; but it's worth a try!!! Well that is not a problem for me but you ladies can always make like Dr. Jekyll and Mrs. Hyde and live two separate lives one for your normal side and one for your beast side and never the twain shall meet. Sorry ladies just joking about the Jekyll and Hyde thing
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Post by Rysa on Feb 16, 2014 23:09:01 GMT -5
I think I am the only one that liked this episode. Of course I did not like the C/G kisses and neither her denial, even when JT broke his bro code. It's like she never listen JT telling what Vince do for wining her back. I tried to see the whole episode and not focus on vincat thing. They will back together in the next episodes I guess. I saw her being sad when Gabe makes her to choice neither him or Vince. It's kind of unfair. It's obvious to me that she tries enough to deny her feelings for Vince even to herself and pushes herself into a relationship to forget Vince. It's impossible if she loves him. She is so stubborn!
No you're not the only one. I liked it too and I said so. Just that I would have liked it a whole lot better if they didn't go there with the Gabe/C sex thing. I liked the pointers we are getting about the fact that no matter how they try to resist it, Vincent and Catherine are destined to LOVE each other and to be together and at least in that part this season agrees with season 1. I am looking forward to the development of the mythology and to seeing what V/C will do as a team in finding out about their connection and how they will work together in other ways too. There is so much potential for so many story lines I just hope the writers don't screw things up. I am glad that I am not the only one. I know they are destined but writers try to put obstacles and love triangles or relationships to prevent the couple being together. I get that. But it could be with another way. Cat could be alone for a while but she ran into Gabe hug! I don't like her to be with him. Actually, I dislike this relationship and cause me nausea watching them together. I need to see more mythology and how Vince can cure. I am hoping the same as you.
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Post by jemangela on Feb 16, 2014 23:14:22 GMT -5
I really disliked Catherine when Vincent said that he was trying to save the Jacob in the hospital and she told him to leave that to the real doctors.....so thoughtless!!!!! However, not 30 minutes before she told him in the hospital that she liked seeing his old self, when he was helping the young boy who had been misdiagnosed. No wonder my head is spinning!!!! I'm usually Team Catherine but my word, Catherine was really mean at times and yap, that part had me whipping my head and going whaaaaaaat?!!! She was like all over the place I couldn't keep up
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Post by raniamahd on Feb 16, 2014 23:20:30 GMT -5
oh no not Buffy and Angel again ! they couldn't succeed so why should C and V can ?! any way now we understand what Austin said in an interview that V was meant to be a beast ? he meant he has that gene , so what ? Gabe , Tori , Zach and every beast came in the show had it too , what we can take from these ?! so , she just wants Gabe because he isn't beast any more , she wants to have a relation with a complete normal man , but still she can't leave V's beast alone ? she uses him whenever she needs him ! ok , in some episodes they mange to make me really dislike V's character , and now they mange to make me feel the same for Cat's character , so shall we call it even and end this crap and go back to our old good show pleas No, we can't. Obviously, Kern wanted nothing to do with S1. Apparently, he doesn't even like the characters and the screen is showing that. My question remains the same. If they sank VinCat ship, destroyed Team Vincent and now they're destroying Team Catherine, how did they expect to have a show running for 5 years? Maybe they think Team Gabe can sustain it, since they also destroyed Team Tess and JT is so inexistent that he probably doesn't have a team anymore. But wait! That's right! Team Gabe is the smaller part of the fandom! Or they thought Team Tori would do wonders for the ratings. Only Tori never had a team! Yeah, that was a really good plan! thanks dear for making me laugh in this bad mode it seems that Team Gabe is not the smaller part of the fandom but it is the whole show makers now he is definitely their brat this season he is forgiven for every thing he did just because he stopped do bad things any more and he now treats Cat well he is even feels superior over Vincent because he is no longer a beast and doesn't even feels grateful to him for saving his life how many time now ? and he thinks he has the right to order Cat to end any contact with him and the strong woman takes that from him :banghead:although she didn't take it from V before ?! it seems with Gabe she acts like she is grateful he just accepted to be with her and can't disobey him in any thing ok i think it is for V best if they both stay out of his life but just keep your word and don't scream help help when you need him sorry to say that but no way they can clean up this mess and come with a proper end for this show after all the damage they done !
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