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Post by raniamahd on Feb 16, 2014 22:27:38 GMT -5
The episode was soooooo fast paced that I did not have time to feel anything; I was gasping for air just trying to keep up..between the three Jacobs, Dr. Marcus, Xavier, Sam and the Fab 5...my head was spinning in circles.
Catherine is in a relationship with Gabe. She is not yet in love with him, yet she is willing and able to sleep with him? Gabe is OK with the threesome at first, but then Vincent has to go? (It was like last year, Vincent trying to prohibit Cat from seeing Gabe). Vincent wants to go beast cold turkey, but he can't because Cat, who is the person he is trying to go beast cold turkey for, wants him to be a beast in order to track down Sam's beast and then save Gabe? Has Tess changed her tune? Now she keeps throwing in Cat's face that she is not over Vince. Thank God for JT...the voice of reason in a world gone completely LOCO!!!!!! On another note, I get where they are going now. Catherine and Vincent's love will be even more epic because she is the beast slayer. Even though her purpose is to kill him, their love will triumph over this cruel twist of fate.....because it is stronger than the beast/slayer mythology. They are destined to overcome all odds together. I am still lost and confused......please, someone come find me!!! oh no not Buffy and Angel again ! they couldn't succeed so why should C and V can ?! any way now we understand what Austin said in an interview that V was meant to be a beast ? he meant he has that gene , so what ? Gabe , Tori , Zach and every beast came in the show had it too , what we can take from these ?! i mean how can we be that sure now ? we read many things that suppose to happen in the show but didn't after all ! so how can we be sure now ? and this e made it clear that Cat wants that relation with Gabe (puke)even if she isn't in love with him ( by the way are we even sure of that now ? did she say that ?! or we assume again ?) so , she just wants Gabe because he isn't beast any more , she wants to have a relation with a complete normal man , but still she can't leave V's beast alone ? she uses him whenever she needs him ! ok , in some episodes they mange to make me really dislike V's character , and now they mange to make me feel the same for Cat's character , so shall we call it even and end this crap and go back to our old good show pleas
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 22:30:06 GMT -5
The episode was soooooo fast paced that I did not have time to feel anything; I was gasping for air just trying to keep up..between the three Jacobs, Dr. Marcus, Xavier, Sam and the Fab 5...my head was spinning in circles.
Catherine is in a relationship with Gabe. She is not yet in love with him, yet she is willing and able to sleep with him? Gabe is OK with the threesome at first, but then Vincent has to go? (It was like last year, Vincent trying to prohibit Cat from seeing Gabe). Vincent wants to go beast cold turkey, but he can't because Cat, who is the person he is trying to go beast cold turkey for, wants him to be a beast in order to track down Sam's beast and then save Gabe? Has Tess changed her tune? Now she keeps throwing in Cat's face that she is not over Vince. Thank God for JT...the voice of reason in a world gone completely LOCO!!!!!! On another note, I get where they are going now. Catherine and Vincent's love will be even more epic because she is the beast slayer. Even though her purpose is to kill him, their love will triumph over this cruel twist of fate.....because it is stronger than the beast/slayer mythology. They are destined to overcome all odds together. I am still lost and confused......please, someone come find me!!! no, can u come find me please? two of your points: a) fast paced - please writers slow down for f... sake, it is true first time u watch at least it is so hard to feel things with thigns moving on sooo damn fast b) it was so fast paced that i need to watch the dad bit again - are we sure she is meant to be the beast slayer/killer? and if that is the case then yes! i love love love this scenario and dont think any of us had thought about it? or had we lol I don't know, anapi, remember, I am lost and confused....and I'm looking for you; crazy is with me...hopefully the three of us will meet up at some point!
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Post by texasscotian on Feb 16, 2014 22:30:46 GMT -5
I just really want to love an episode....is that too much to ask for? I was OK with the opener, liked number 2 until the push, that made 3 difficult. I loved Hothead and then it all began to unravel...and here we are. When Vince told Cat he didn't want her to see Gabe, he had excellent reasons...and she just told him off. When Gabe tells her that Vincent has to go, she ends up in his bed....how exactly does that work? I have to say that Vincent was trying extremely hard to leave his killer side behind, and it was great to see him as a doctor. I felt very sad for him-he was doing this to be a better person, to feel deserving of Cat's love, and Cat kept asking him to be a beast. I feel the redemption was Vincent's, and Vincent's only. I really did not like Cat in this episode. I hated how she kept kissing Gabe to prove her love; it was really asqueroso, for lack of a better word in English. Has she figured out who she is? ...because I don't have the foggiest idea. Don't get me started with Gabe...I swear to you all, my three hermanos are dead, dead. That's the last time I ask them for a favor!Why doesn't anyone listen to JT...haven't they figured out that the fool is always the savant? dont lose faith in the hermanos lol on a serious note, yes i agree with many of your points above, and yes did anyone count exactly how many times cat granny-smouched gabe? must have been at least 5 or 6 right? Granny Smooched!! I was just thinking the same thing!! There for dang sure ain't no "granny smooching" happening when she and Vincent kiss!!
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Feb 16, 2014 22:30:49 GMT -5
Why does everyone think Catherine is in denial about Vincent? It sounds like she is kissing Gabe every spare second and talking about their relationship. I think she seems like she is going forward with it.......even after JT breaks the MAJOR BROCODE! Didn't seem like the Brocode made a difference to Catherine? Did she even "blink" when he said that to her.
I have to congratulate the writers, I think they have made me dislike Catherine even more in this episode.................I am even more bitter about that.
Well, I don't think I am going to watch this early either. Is it too much to ask to feel good after an episode this season? I mean giddy good??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 22:33:18 GMT -5
dont lose faith in the hermanos lol on a serious note, yes i agree with many of your points above, and yes did anyone count exactly how many times cat granny-smouched gabe? must have been at least 5 or 6 right?
I repeat, anapi, absolutely asqueroso!!!!!!!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 16, 2014 22:34:39 GMT -5
The episode was soooooo fast paced that I did not have time to feel anything; I was gasping for air just trying to keep up..between the three Jacobs, Dr. Marcus, Xavier, Sam and the Fab 5...my head was spinning in circles.
Catherine is in a relationship with Gabe. She is not yet in love with him, yet she is willing and able to sleep with him? Gabe is OK with the threesome at first, but then Vincent has to go? (It was like last year, Vincent trying to prohibit Cat from seeing Gabe). Vincent wants to go beast cold turkey, but he can't because Cat, who is the person he is trying to go beast cold turkey for, wants him to be a beast in order to track down Sam's beast and then save Gabe? Has Tess changed her tune? Now she keeps throwing in Cat's face that she is not over Vince. Thank God for JT...the voice of reason in a world gone completely LOCO!!!!!! On another note, I get where they are going now. Catherine and Vincent's love will be even more epic because she is the beast slayer. Even though her purpose is to kill him, their love will triumph over this cruel twist of fate.....because it is stronger than the beast/slayer mythology. They are destined to overcome all odds together. I am still lost and confused......please, someone come find me!!! oh no not Buffy and Angel again ! they couldn't succeed so why should C and V can ?! any way now we understand what Austin said in an interview that V was meant to be a beast ? he meant he has that gene , so what ? Gabe , Tori , Zach and every beast came in the show had it too , what we can take from these ?! so , she just wants Gabe because he isn't beast any more , she wants to have a relation with a complete normal man , but still she can't leave V's beast alone ? she uses him whenever she needs him ! ok , in some episodes they mange to make me really dislike V's character , and now they mange to make me feel the same for Cat's character , so shall we call it even and end this crap and go back to our old good show pleas regarding gabe after watching this episode it is clear she does not want to be with him (even though she still is...sigh). she is slowly waking up i guess to the fact that she loves vincent. i dont know lol still processing the episode which was way too fast paced but i am sure about the above
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Feb 16, 2014 22:36:34 GMT -5
Okay no one shoot me for saying this buuuuut: I get being frustrated with the show, I KNOW I AM FOR SURE, but the way I see the writers wanted to explore this love by showing Catherine and Vincent on kind of two opposite sides of a spectrum. Catherine who's basically good and Vincent who's basically bad (or was). After watching this episode I could see how the writers are trying to navigate the characters to meet in the middle of this imaginary spectrum. As Vincent tries to "redeem" himself and move towards Catherine and Catherine (after killing the other beast), not becoming bad per se but becoming more understanding of what Vincent had done. So by next episode I can see how these two characters can meet in the middle (kind of balancing each other out) and reunite. As for the sex thing, totally agree it made me nauseas too, but I see it as the characters trying to make their other "relationships" work and attempting to let go of each other. Sex is not the most important part of a relationship but it does represent a physical, emotional, and mental connection with another person and I think the writers wanted to show even when Catherine and Vincent had done that with other significant others they were still drawn to each other, like destiny and kismet. I agree I wish the writers could've shown it in a different way without having the characters just sleep with other people but I always got to remember that the characters are human and sadly humans make mistakes and that includes sleeping with other people in an attempt to move on even when you know deep down inside you're in undeniably in love with someone else. I see Catherine and Gabe similar to that movie "The Notebook", where Allie knows she should be with that lawyer guy (whom she's perfect with) but she follows her heart and goes with Noah because they were meant to be, even if the relationship wasn't as perfect (sometimes love isn't pretty :/). As for Vincent and Tori it was instinctual it was engrained in them. So when Vincent chose Catherine (before Tori died of course lol), that's tough. Thats like being told all your life you're "supposed" to be with this person, you're just supposed to, and going against all that and choosing someone else. Through all this nitty gritty the Beast will find his Beauty and we WILL get the EPIC LOVE of Beauty and the Beast (because god knows this relationship has definitely been through hell and back). EDIT: Can you guys tell I'm an eternal optimistic LOL. Very well said!! You nailed it!! Yes, you are an Eternal Optimist. It's a good thing. Welcome to my Happy Beastieland! Wanna pick a unicorn?
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 16, 2014 22:38:59 GMT -5
dont lose faith in the hermanos lol on a serious note, yes i agree with many of your points above, and yes did anyone count exactly how many times cat granny-smouched gabe? must have been at least 5 or 6 right? I repeat, anapi, absolutely asqueroso!!!!!!! it was totally yucky, slimy and asqueroso as u say... and so out of character for cat ... still trying to fully understand why she is with Gabe even though there is absolutely NO love there...i mean I get it but i dont get it if that makes sense
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 22:39:06 GMT -5
On another note, I get where they are going now. Catherine and Vincent's love will be even more epic because she is the beast slayer. Even though her purpose is to kill him, their love will triumph over this cruel twist of fate.....because it is stronger than the beast/slayer mythology. They are destined to overcome all odds together.
I am still lost and confused......please, someone come find me!!!
I am here Loca. I'll show you the way to the light. Like I said earlier, if Gabe wasn't in the episode or I should have qualified that, if there had been no Gaberine implied sex then I would have really enjoyed the episode. I loke the whole mythology thing and remember chica, Rome wasn't built in a day so these things need time to be developed. Be patient TPTB were aiming long term. Also maybe daddy Reynolds was just saying that about Cat being able to finish off the beasts because he wanted all evidence of Muirfield gone and his daughter protected. I think the confused one tgis episide was flaky Cat. Oh my giddy aunt did she ever get on my nerves. Somebody or some writer please hurry up and make her mind up for her. I am so tired of her wanting/not wanting decided/undecided about any relationship with Gabe. Oh and somebody try flatlining Gabe to either create some life in this one dimensional character/plot device(aka sex-triangle) or to turn him back into a beast.
Thank you, amiga, we need to hock up with anapi along the way.....I know the light is coming,,,but I am really getting worried that I will be so blinded by then that I won't be able to see it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 22:40:49 GMT -5
oh no not Buffy and Angel again ! they couldn't succeed so why should C and V can ?! any way now we understand what Austin said in an interview that V was meant to be a beast ? he meant he has that gene , so what ? Gabe , Tori , Zach and every beast came in the show had it too , what we can take from these ?! so , she just wants Gabe because he isn't beast any more , she wants to have a relation with a complete normal man , but still she can't leave V's beast alone ? she uses him whenever she needs him ! ok , in some episodes they mange to make me really dislike V's character , and now they mange to make me feel the same for Cat's character , so shall we call it even and end this crap and go back to our old good show pleas No, we can't. Obviously, Kern wanted nothing to do with S1. Apparently, he doesn't even like the characters and the screen is showing that. My question remains the same. If they sank VinCat ship, destroyed Team Vincent and now they're destroying Team Catherine, how did they expect to have a show running for 5 years? Maybe they think Team Gabe can sustain it, since they also destroyed Team Tess and JT is so inexistent that he probably doesn't have a team anymore. But wait! That's right! Team Gabe is the smaller part of the fandom! Or they thought Team Tori would do wonders for the ratings. Only Tori never had a team! Yeah, that was a really good plan!
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Post by crazyforbatb_has season 3 on Feb 16, 2014 22:44:14 GMT -5
no, can u come find me please? two of your points: a) fast paced - please writers slow down for f... sake, it is true first time u watch at least it is so hard to feel things with thigns moving on sooo damn fast b) it was so fast paced that i need to watch the dad bit again - are we sure she is meant to be the beast slayer/killer? and if that is the case then yes! i love love love this scenario and dont think any of us had thought about it? or had we lol I don't know, anapi, remember, I am lost and confused....and I'm looking for you; crazy is with me...hopefully the three of us will meet up at some point! Well chicas/amies we can arrange a time and place in Toronto where we can meet and have a private theatre where we can replay all and any hot Vincent scenes and VinCat love scenes ona very large screen. And ladies....wait for it....hopefully by that time my scientist (oh hello Muirfield) will have made three perfect Vincent clones and we don't have to share. Oh what a night it will be and then we get to take him home with us
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Post by Rysa on Feb 16, 2014 22:49:23 GMT -5
I think I am the only one that liked this episode. Of course I did not like the C/G kisses and neither her denial, even when JT broke his bro code. It's like she never listen JT telling what Vince do for wining her back. I tried to see the whole episode and not focus on vincat thing. They will back together in the next episodes I guess. I saw her being sad when Gabe makes her to choice neither him or Vince. It's kind of unfair. It's obvious to me that she tries enough to deny her feelings for Vince even to herself and pushes herself into a relationship to forget Vince. It's impossible if she loves him. She is so stubborn!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 22:52:02 GMT -5
Thank you so much too. So much going on in this episode. You did a good job keeping it straight. Still a couple of thinks I am confused. Why is Catherine some kind of "beast slayer".....?? Because she has a gun? I mean she has been attacked by beasts. WHAT ABOUT THE GEM/ NECKLACE thingy?? Have they forgotten all about that? Is that all there was? I thought maybe Cat had some power over Beasts or something. Seriously, is that all there is about Rebecca Reynolds?? What makes Cat something "special"?? I mean where is the connection to the ancient Beasts and Catherine or her ancestors?
I am just speculating, but Reynolds tells her that she needs to carry on where he left off, that she needs to eliminate all the beasts, especially Vincent. No mention of the necklace or the gem in this episode, but Reynolds did mention Rebecca. Perhaps it will play a role in an upcoming episode....or perhaps not, we know how these things work; here today, gone tomorrow. The connection has not been revealed yet.....I think the expectation is that we have to be MORE PATIENT, chica.
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Post by Naná on Feb 16, 2014 22:53:03 GMT -5
I have one big question to begin? How on earth did Ga be get back to N.Y. from Cancún? I am going to have some words with my three hermanos!!!!!!LOL grrrrrrrrrrrrr we will have to seriously talk to your brothers!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 22:54:35 GMT -5
I don't know, anapi, remember, I am lost and confused....and I'm looking for you; crazy is with me...hopefully the three of us will meet up at some point! Well chicas/amies we can arrange a time and place in Toronto where we can meet and have a private theatre where we can replay all and any hot Vincent scenes and VinCat love scenes ona very large screen. And ladies....wait for it....hopefully by that time my scientist (oh hello Muirfield) will have made three perfect Vincent clones and we don't have to share. Oh what a night it will be and then we get to take him home with us I'm not sure how our husbands will feel about that; but it's worth a try!!!
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