2x14 Redemption Feb 27, 2014 1:15:29 GMT -5 Savana_ Dying for season3!, beastiegirl.happy.puppy, and 3 more like this
Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 27, 2014 1:15:29 GMT -5
[About half-way through the episode, we have this exchange between Gabe and Cat:]
#1=[26:38 on the CWTV.COM playback]
G: You know, its alright to worry about him.
C: worry about who? OK, yeah, I'm worried. Don't you think we should have heard from Vincent by now?
G: I think if we really want to make this work, we have to be honest with each other about everything, including Vincent. Cat, I don't expect you to suddenly stop caring about Vincent; you have a history with him - we all do. But you can't just keep avoiding it.
C: I know; I'm sorry.
G: Are you alright? Since you came back from visiting your Father, you've been a little quiet.
[Cat is typically not acknowledging her feelings. Gabe's main point is honesty and sounds fair and reasonable. The phrase "... can't just keep avoiding it" is not clear because we are not sure what "it" refers to but in the context it seems to refer to feelings about Vincent. For Gabe this is miles away from a criticism - except that he continues to encourage honesty.]
[After the crisis with Jacob is over and Vincent and Cat have saved Gabe:]
C: That's not what's bothering me. I didn't even hesitate, I just pulled the trigger.
V: Its not like you haven't shot a beast before.
C: Yeah, but it is the first time it didn't even cross my mind I was shooting a person too.
[Others have raised the issue of PTSD - Cat has been shooting Vincent and other beasts without any therapy. (Maybe to be seen soon in a future episode. No matter where it starts, it is a pretty disturbing dream) All she gets is her bio-Father suggesting she has to destroy Vincent before he destroys her. So, from [#1] she has difficulty being honest about her feelings and from [#2] something about shooting beasts is tormenting her.]
[Cat and Gabe arrive at his apartment:]
G: Do you want to talk about it?
[Cat feels bad about having shot Jacob and about having asked Vincent to help. "He's trying so hard to be a man, not a beast.]
G: He's not a man; he's a beast.
C: You don't really believe that.
G: What I believe is that your relationship with Vincent is getting in the way of ours. I don't have to like it. It feels like there are three of us in this relationship. Sooner or later this has to be resolved. Vincent has to go.
[Then we see Cat driving to the marina, her face tormented, as if wrestling with something.]
C: "This is so confusing, not fair to me, not fair to Gabe". [But it is she who keeps involving Vincent.]
V: SCREW GABE
[Maybe this is what Cat wants Vincent to say, to fight for their love and not say she should be with Gabe.]
[Now, I believe Gabe's comments after they arrive back at his apartment [#3] are completely inconsistent with the first exchange [#1]. I'm not much of a fan of Gabe (still might be a decent guy) but I think it is at least possible that Cat's dream sequence goes back to the beginning of #3. The issues in that conversation are what trouble Cat not Gabe. His attitude in [#1] is pretty reasonable. Nothing has happened to change it except Cat and Vincent saved his butt.]
I realize some think the writers have resolved the issue; if so, then I will just have to respectfully disagree with them.
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Just to clarify, Cat's nightmare was that she pushed Vincent and he cracked his head, the rest of the episode is fair game
That doesn't explicitly say where the dream sequence started.
Bill, there was another tweet by the writers following this confirminng that indeed the dream sequence starts after the gabe confrontation
@batbkk @moniquehuurman @rickey Gabe had that talk with Cat and then they went to bed. Then she dreamt that nightmare! #Redemption #BATB
@batbkk The dream was when Cat pushed Vincent. Gabe is ACTUALLY jealous. #Redemption #BATB
regarding Gabe's behaviour in the final scene, yes, it does appear to be inconsistent with previous interactions with Catherine, but to me it makes complete sense. This is the first time (in the last scene) Cat actually says something positive about Vincent, so Gabe cannot keep up his front (cause it is a front) and "attacks" by demanding that Catherine needs to choose. His reaction is pretty normal in that respect