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Post by dina on Jun 29, 2015 12:09:39 GMT -5
I don't know if its all in my head.. but something has changed with the way they portray Vin/Cats romance.. In season 1 we had so much passion, we even had love scenes.. it looked so real. Season 2 we still had some of that passion. I'm not saying that they're not giving us any romance between Vin/Cat this season, but something is different about it.. they try to cut it short, the scenes are so dark, you can't even tell whether they're actually kissing. It doesn't make sence for them to change that aspect of their romance because they know it worked so well in season 1 & 2, thats what we all loved about the show, the chemistry. Also for season 3 we did not have any interviews of Jay and Kristin together.. Do you think maybe their significant others have to do with it? Maybe it looked too real on screen that they had to cut it down? there used to be twitter activity from both of them.. but something just changed. I know its stupid to think that their significant others have something to do with it.. but when you watch them both on screen you believe its real. And it is still too early in the season to judge the direction they're going with VnCat, but something just doesn't feel right. We had that cute/hot scene in the beginning of the first episode, they could've added a love scene to the engagement part, it wouldn't have looked trashy because its not like they give it to us every episode. The last time there was a love scene with them was in Season 1. Please don't get me wrong I'm not some perv that wants to see people sleep with each other LOL.. but with Vin/Cat its just so different. I mean just look:
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Post by batbfreak on Jun 29, 2015 14:03:10 GMT -5
I don't know if its all in my head.. but something has changed with the way they portray Vin/Cats romance.. In season 1 we had so much passion, we even had love scenes.. it looked so real. Season 2 we still had some of that passion. I'm not saying that they're not giving us any romance between Vin/Cat this season, but something is different about it.. they try to cut it short, the scenes are so dark, you can't even tell whether they're actually kissing. It doesn't make sence for them to change that aspect of their romance because they know it worked so well in season 1 & 2, thats what we all loved about the show, the chemistry. Also for season 3 we did not have any interviews of Jay and Kristin together.. Do you think maybe their significant others have to do with it? Maybe it looked too real on screen that they had to cut it down? there used to be twitter activity from both of them.. but something just changed. I know its stupid to think that their significant others have something to do with it.. but when you watch them both on screen you believe its real. And it is still too early in the season to judge the direction they're going with VnCat, but something just doesn't feel right. We had that cute/hot scene in the beginning of the first episode, they could've added a love scene to the engagement part, it wouldn't have looked trashy because its not like they give it to us every episode. The last time there was a love scene with them was in Season 1. Please don't get me wrong I'm not some perv that wants to see people sleep with each other LOL.. but with Vin/Cat its just so different. I mean just look: You know dina, that has been my thought for a long time. The real love scenes doesn't exist and the passionate kisses are just not the same as in S1. The silence of the tweets from Jay and the lack of the interviews with JR and KK make me think that either the two of them can't stand each other (which I really don't believe, since they still have some good chemistry on screen in the new season) or their relationship has become more than just colleauges, so that they have to cut the scenes they are making because of their significant others. Or maybe that is just what happens when actors have been working together for so long. First years they (J & K) where both fasinated by and admired each other and after that they might just have lost that fasination/admiration and become less present in the scenes together. I don't know.
I really miss scenes like in AMP and Insaitable. I know they are not new lovers anymore and they have fought a long time to be together, but they are acting now like they have been together for ages and everything is now normal and not for us (viewers) to get into anymore. The writer do know what we Beasties like and want, so I don't get why they are tuning these great scenes down or making them dark, so we can't see them proberly. I liked the scenes in 301 and hope there will be more scenes like that - more kisses, touching and gazes.
Also hoping we can get some interviews with Jay and Kristin together SOON. We need them!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 29, 2015 15:02:30 GMT -5
guys - if you see bloopers of season 2 and even bts from season 3 and interviews as well it seems to me that kk and jay are getting on just fine the issue is with the way they are written - not their personal relationship been strained or something. so far the focus this season has been different as we all very well know. it is a completely different direction than in season 1 for example. hence why fewer intimate scenes etc etc.. the actors do not choose how long they kiss each other on screen, if anything blame teh writers
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Post by ·· K å t ·· on Jun 29, 2015 17:17:15 GMT -5
Totally agree with you anapi -season3baby :); to blame are the writers and... I don't really care about KK & JR personal lives, (I mean yes but not in a obsessed way, if you know what I mean) what I care is to see that amazing chemistry we saw in S1 again on our screens, our VinCat passionate, really spontaneous as they was on S1... In fact I actually agree also with what dina had complained about, especially after 3x03... I really think that something changed and ok that the scripts are what they are and actors didn't decide how long they have to portray a tender or a love scene.... BUT still I feel a bit of lacking in chemistry.... even the bed kissing scene of last episode... I felt it was lacking of something.... they kissed in a very professional way IMO and probably I felt the lack of reality and spontaneity we were used to by VinCat/JayKris.... I think that probably they get so close as friend that... most of the time are playing around with each other and it's just more hard to have those sparkles and erotic tension between them that we saw in S1... they became too much friends that everything has become less erotic and hot but more tender and funny and that's not bad, don't get me wrong but... it has effects on chemistry IMO... my two cent btw... just my impression... Last thing... I really don't aspect and hope for another love scene as those we saw in S1, not anymore... I gave up on this... S1 was unique and the best so far
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Post by BeastieBoy on Jun 30, 2015 0:40:07 GMT -5
The script and director will dictate the scene, but how they actually kiss and what the actors bring to the scene is really more KrisJay IMHO.
While I'm sure the actors get along just fine, I do have my suspicions about something being different during the filming of S3.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 30, 2015 0:40:38 GMT -5
Totally agree with you anapi -season3baby :); to blame are the writers and... I don't really care about KK & JR personal lives, (I mean yes but not in a obsessed way, if you know what I mean) what I care is to see that amazing chemistry we saw in S1 again on our screens, our VinCat passionate, really spontaneous as they was on S1... In fact I actually agree also with what dina had complained about, especially after 3x03... I really think that something changed and ok that the scripts are what they are and actors didn't decide how long they have to portray a tender or a love scene.... BUT still I feel a bit of lacking in chemistry.... even the bed kissing scene of last episode... I felt it was lacking of something.... they kissed in a very professional way IMO and probably I felt the lack of reality and spontaneity we were used to by VinCat/JayKris.... I think that probably they get so close as friend that... most of the time are playing around with each other and it's just more hard to have those sparkles and erotic tension between them that we saw in S1... they became too much friends that everything has become less erotic and hot but more tender and funny and that's not bad, don't get me wrong but... it has effects on chemistry IMO... my two cent btw... just my impression... Last thing... I really don't aspect and hope for another love scene as those we saw in S1, not anymore... I gave up on this... S1 was unique and the best so far regarding season 3 so far i think they are now focusing on tender/love rather than passionate kisses.....so i dont think it is them being too careless or too friendly but i think it is them being vincat who have been together for a while....which is why it would be great if we got them in such situations that made a passionate full on scene realistic....rather than them talking bout lamps and tv screens....
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Post by Chymere on Jun 30, 2015 0:52:06 GMT -5
Totally agree with you anapi -season3baby :); to blame are the writers and... I don't really care about KK & JR personal lives, (I mean yes but not in a obsessed way, if you know what I mean) what I care is to see that amazing chemistry we saw in S1 again on our screens, our VinCat passionate, really spontaneous as they was on S1... In fact I actually agree also with what dina had complained about, especially after 3x03... I really think that something changed and ok that the scripts are what they are and actors didn't decide how long they have to portray a tender or a love scene.... BUT still I feel a bit of lacking in chemistry.... even the bed kissing scene of last episode... I felt it was lacking of something.... they kissed in a very professional way IMO and probably I felt the lack of reality and spontaneity we were used to by VinCat/JayKris.... I think that probably they get so close as friend that... most of the time are playing around with each other and it's just more hard to have those sparkles and erotic tension between them that we saw in S1... they became too much friends that everything has become less erotic and hot but more tender and funny and that's not bad, don't get me wrong but... it has effects on chemistry IMO... my two cent btw... just my impression... Last thing... I really don't aspect and hope for another love scene as those we saw in S1, not anymore... I gave up on this... S1 was unique and the best so far I can more agree with you all and what you said. VinCat is there but in a very differente way! Ok living together also changes the way to behave but I feel a bit of lacking in chemistry too + camera angles this season does not help at all and we can't see them almost never frontally! Also the fact that Levin and Sherri Cooper are not there, I am sure it' is a big missing factor. And yes Kat, I am with you here too, Jay and KK looks really so close as friend from what we can judge that it has maybe effects on chemistry! Sometime looks like more JayKris than VinCat for me! Well! I take those that they want to give us!
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Post by Chymere on Jun 30, 2015 1:03:40 GMT -5
Totally agree with you anapi -season3baby :); to blame are the writers and... I don't really care about KK & JR personal lives, (I mean yes but not in a obsessed way, if you know what I mean) what I care is to see that amazing chemistry we saw in S1 again on our screens, our VinCat passionate, really spontaneous as they was on S1... In fact I actually agree also with what dina had complained about, especially after 3x03... I really think that something changed and ok that the scripts are what they are and actors didn't decide how long they have to portray a tender or a love scene.... BUT still I feel a bit of lacking in chemistry.... even the bed kissing scene of last episode... I felt it was lacking of something.... they kissed in a very professional way IMO and probably I felt the lack of reality and spontaneity we were used to by VinCat/JayKris.... I think that probably they get so close as friend that... most of the time are playing around with each other and it's just more hard to have those sparkles and erotic tension between them that we saw in S1... they became too much friends that everything has become less erotic and hot but more tender and funny and that's not bad, don't get me wrong but... it has effects on chemistry IMO... my two cent btw... just my impression... Last thing... I really don't aspect and hope for another love scene as those we saw in S1, not anymore... I gave up on this... S1 was unique and the best so far regarding season 3 so far, i think they are now focusing on tender/love rather than passionate kisses.....so i dont think it is them being too careless or too friendly but i think it is them being vincat who have been together for a while....which is why it would be great if we got them in such situations that made a passionate full on scene realistic....rather than them talking bout lamps and tv screens.... Sound logical to me too! Totally agree to put them in something more dark, something more deep , complicated to push them to be more passionate. We are from the beginning on the same page Anna about this!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 30, 2015 2:44:24 GMT -5
So since latter half of s2 A) the episodes have been very fast paced B) the episodes have a funnier tone to them C) vincat are together and very comfortable with each other D) the tone of the episodes is much lighter E) the vincat one to one romantic type scenes are very very brief F) the filming style is very different including lighting etc
In s1 A) there was a dark romantic tone to the eps B) the filming style and lighting was very different C) much slower paced D) very long one to one scenes including very long kissing allowance E) vincat either not together or not yet comfortable just starting F) comedy very toned down at least between vincst
So I don't think it has anything to do with jay and kristin but writers and direction. And maybe jay and kk do not act full on how they did and opt for the more comfortable option because of the direction of the show and the above factors. Which is why I say give us real drama etc and they won't have a choice
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Post by kiki09 on Jun 30, 2015 3:58:57 GMT -5
So since latter half of s2 A) the episodes have been very fast paced B) the episodes have a funnier tone to them C) vincat are together and very comfortable with each other D) the tone of the episodes is much lighter E) the vincat one to one romantic type scenes are very very brief F) the filming style is very different including lighting etc In s1 A) there was a dark romantic tone to the eps B) the filming style and lighting was very different C) much slower paced D) very long one to one scenes including very long kissing allowance E) vincat either not together or not yet comfortable just starting F) comedy very toned down at least between vincat So I don't think it has anything to do with jay and kristin but writers and direction. And maybe jay and kk do not act full on how they did and opt for the more comfortable option because of the direction of the show and the above factors. Which is why I say give us real drama etc and they won't have a choice I couldn't agree with you more anapi -season3baby :). There is no conspiracy. It's just the way the story is being told which is very different from s1 to s2 to s3.
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Post by val on Jun 30, 2015 3:59:27 GMT -5
Je pense que les producteurs et les acteurs ont abandonnés la série... Même dans les interviews de KK on lui demande quel show elle voudrait voir continuer elle ne dit pas BATB.. on lui demande Superman ou the Beast elle choisit Superman... Pour moi BATB est à l'écran parce que NOUS BEADTIES faisont beaucoup de bruit mais les acteurs font leur job et c'est tout! Même JR ne s'interesse pas à BATB il fait son job part en NZ profite de sa famille ce qui est tout à fait normal revient fait son job ect... Quand je vois les autres acteurs des autres séries nous Beasties on est vraiment seuls... voilà ce que je pense mais je préférais la magie la nouveauté de la S1 qui ne ressemblait à aucun show. Avec la S2 et le début de la S3 il banalise le show... c'est dommage car j'adore l'histoire et les acteurs. Certaines fanfiction sont meilleures que la S2 à mon avis. Mais je regarderai quand même la S3 quand elle passsera en France(pas avant Noel)
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 30, 2015 4:04:18 GMT -5
Je pense que les producteurs et les acteurs ont abandonnés la série... Même dans les interviews de KK on lui demande quel show elle voudrait voir continuer elle ne dit pas BATB.. on lui demande Superman ou the Beast elle choisit Superman... Pour moi BATB est à l'écran parce que NOUS BEADTIES faisont beaucoup de bruit mais les acteurs font leur job et c'est tout! Même JR ne s'interesse pas à BATB il fait son job part en NZ profite de sa famille ce qui est tout à fait normal revient fait son job ect... Quand je vois les autres acteurs des autres séries nous Beasties on est vraiment seuls... voilà ce que je pense mais je préférais la magie la nouveauté de la S1 qui ne ressemblait à aucun show. Avec la S2 et le début de la S3 il banalise le show... c'est dommage car j'adore l'histoire et les acteurs. Certaines fanfiction sont meilleures que la S2 à mon avis. Mais je regarderai quand même la S3 quand elle passsera en France(pas avant Noel) I wish I could speak French lol.. Chymere?
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Post by Chymere on Jun 30, 2015 4:54:08 GMT -5
Je pense que les producteurs et les acteurs ont abandonnés la série... Même dans les interviews de KK on lui demande quel show elle voudrait voir continuer elle ne dit pas BATB.. on lui demande ou the Beast elle choisit Superman... Pour moi BATB est à l'écran parce que NOUS BEADTIES faisont beaucoup de bruit mais les acteurs font leur job et c'est tout! Même JR ne s'interesse pas à BATB il fait son job part en NZ profite de sa famille ce qui est tout à fait normal revient fait son job ect... Quand je vois les autres acteurs des autres séries nous Beasties on est vraiment seuls... voilà ce que je pense mais je préférais la magie la nouveauté de la S1 qui ne ressemblait à aucun show. Avec la S2 et le début de la S3 il banalise le show... c'est dommage car j'adore l'histoire et les acteurs. Certaines fanfiction sont meilleures que la S2 à mon avis. Mais je regarderai quand même la S3 quand elle passsera en France(pas avant Noel) I wish I could speak French lol.. Chymere? Yes! I am here! I think the producers and actors have abandoned the series ... Even in interviews when they asked to KK which show must go on, she never said BATB and when they questioned her between BATB or Superman, she chose Superman... For me BATB is on the screen because Beasties make noise but the actors do only their job and that's all! Even JR seems not interested in BATB, he makes his job, enjoying with his family while Hiatus (which is quite normal) returns to do his job ... When I see the actors in other series we Beasties are really alone . That's what I think and I preferred the magic novelty of S1 who was unlike any show. S2 and the beginnig of S3 they trivializes the show ... it's a pity because I love the story and the actors. Some fanfiction are better than S2 in my opinion. But I still look upon the S3 when it will come out in France (not before Christmas)
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 30, 2015 5:03:25 GMT -5
I wish I could speak French lol.. Chymere? Yes! I am here! I think the producers and actors have abandoned the series ... Even in interviews when they asked to KK which show must go on, she never said BATB and when they questioned her between BATB or Superman, she chose Superman... For me BATB is on the screen because Beasties make noise but the actors do only their job and that's all! Even JR seems not interested in BATB, he makes his job, enjoying with his family while Hiatus (which is quite normal) returns to do his job ... When I see the actors in other series we Beasties are really alone . That's what I think and I preferred the magic novelty of S1 who was unlike any show. S2 and the beginnig of S3 they trivializes the show ... it's a pity because I love the story and the actors. Some fanfiction are better than S2 in my opinion. But I still look upon the S3 when it will come out in France (not before Christmas) Thank u chymere mwaaaaa
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Post by ebeline on Jun 30, 2015 6:37:57 GMT -5
Je pense que les producteurs et les acteurs ont abandonnés la série... Même dans les interviews de KK on lui demande quel show elle voudrait voir continuer elle ne dit pas BATB.. on lui demande Superman ou the Beast elle choisit Superman... Pour moi BATB est à l'écran parce que NOUS BEADTIES faisont beaucoup de bruit mais les acteurs font leur job et c'est tout! Même JR ne s'interesse pas à BATB il fait son job part en NZ profite de sa famille ce qui est tout à fait normal revient fait son job ect... Quand je vois les autres acteurs des autres séries nous Beasties on est vraiment seuls... voilà ce que je pense mais je préférais la magie la nouveauté de la S1 qui ne ressemblait à aucun show. Avec la S2 et le début de la S3 il banalise le show... c'est dommage car j'adore l'histoire et les acteurs. Certaines fanfiction sont meilleures que la S2 à mon avis. Mais je regarderai quand même la S3 quand elle passsera en France(pas avant Noel) Je ne crois pas que les acteurs abandone le show. Je pense qu'ils font bien leur Job, mais le ton du show a change. La romantique de se connaitre et le tomber en amour de S 1 n'est peut pas comparer Alec l'amour et la relation etablie de S3. Je pense que dans S3 on voit un autre mais tout aussi forte amour epique. I do not believe that the actors has abandone the show. I think they do their job well but the tone of the show has changed. The romance of getting to know each other and falling in love of S 1 you can not compare with the love and the established relationship of S3 . I think in S 3 we can see anorher but equally strong Eric love.
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