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Post by Catherine Chandler on Feb 11, 2014 22:37:00 GMT -5
Question. If you ONLY saw Season Two, would you be here now? Yes, I would be here because I am a fan of Kristin's first. Me too... It's so hard to be a Kristin fan haha. That woman doesn't have any idea how much we love her So yea, even if I've only watched Season 2, this forum would still exist.... I thought it was a condom, oh well hotel key is just as good. I was just chatting with Katie and you have no idea how much I laughed about this post because I seriously thought it was a lighter. So Katie was like: "karen did you watch the ep?" and I was like . So she gave her a hotel key?!? Wth writers? Seriously? Why do you want all you characters to sleep with each other so fast? Again this is the reason why the ratings are so bad. Slow down, people! Now every time I watch the scene, I'm just going to laugh Another thing that bothered me was how Vincent all of a sudden "still loves" Catherine. He's been treating her like crap all season and apparently was sleeping with Tori so where is this coming from? Because Tori's last words were "you belong with Catherine"? Don't even get me started on that. Based on Tori's character she wouldn't even say that. Vincat is being forced. If we're supposed to believe Vincent loves Catherine we need to see it, not hear forced dialogue. There should be longing looks from Vincent. Maybe a scene where Catherine looking cute and walking in slow motion and Vincent is just staring at her with some music playing in the background or something. Come on writers get it together. Yep, pretty much. If these people really want fans that are mad at the show to believe it in again, they should start working on this and fast. Because as much as these fans say they are going to stop watching the show, they still will watch it. Why? Because deep down they still think VinCat is down there. IMO right now it's REALLY DEEP DEEP down. I still want to try to ship VinCat even if I don't believe in big part of it but since I can't stop watching the show I'm into this until the end...so I really want them to show the love again instead of going over and over about how he is still in love with her. Like one of the reasons why I didn't enjoy the last episodes of season 1 was because Cat and Vincent kept going and going about their love. Instead of saying it, can you please show it? And NO, I'm not talking about sex. You ship a couple not only just because their kisses or the sex scenes. I'm not saying they are not good because I get VinCat have chemistry when it comes to sex scenes not in all their kisses. IMO. Kristin and Jay should practice this. They should sit down for like an hour and try to scream "I love you" for their characters through their eyes and body language to see if it works. Wasn't this season supposed to show us how they fall in love again? Well, it's not working so writers DO something, the clock is ticking I have read fanfiction that is 1000 times better than resorting to this immature dribble. Next Vincent and Catherine will be passing notes to one another saying, "Do you like me? Yes or No"? Bahahaha I know what fanfics you have read and yea, those fanfics scream love Like Vincent Keller's fanfics. If the writers need help with the show, they should hire Katie. I can guarantee that the ratings will go up with one single episode Hey not trying to get crass here, but we're the only animal in nature that wipes after a crap...seriously Cat can sleep with whom ever she and the powers that be decide to put in her bed.........that doesn't mean I have to accept or like it. =) ^ Oh, I don't like it either, but then Vincent would need to be examined by that same standard, to be fair. ^ I don't like Gabe and Cat together at all. We don't like Gaberine together and again nothing against Sendhil. Like I've said before I think he's an awesome actor. I enjoy his scenes with KK. I love his scenes with Nina and KK. I think they are hilarious but there is just something about gaberine as a couple that doesn't make it right. It's just weird and bad. I wish I could know why it feels like that. Exactly! I guess sleeping with Vincent only makes it right because he is the main character. Btw, I'm going to say this even when I shouldn't and no, I'm not saying this because it's Cat. I'm saying it because it always upsets me how women judge other women for what they do. I understand everyone has their point of view and I respect that but this is my point of view...Why women are so easily judged when they sleep with guys? Women call other women S... for doing it but if a guy does it, women and society just say: "He's being a guy. Men are like that". Please... We want Cat!!! We want to know about her past. What made her become the person she is. How she became a cop ....but we're not going to get it because they never listen to us...That trailer looked like all the previous of the arc of all those beasts that we watched during the first half of the season so again more beast even after they promised we would get to see Cat's arc. Cat's arc is now Gabe and Vincent with more beast sigh...oh well
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Post by Bunny21 on Feb 12, 2014 1:12:09 GMT -5
Yes, I would be here because I am a fan of Kristin's first. Me too... It's so hard to be a Kristin fan haha. That woman doesn't have any idea how much we love her So yea, even if I've only watched Season 2, this forum would still exist.... I thought it was a condom, oh well hotel key is just as good. I was just chatting with Katie and you have no idea how much I laughed about this post because I seriously thought it was a lighter. So Katie was like: "karen did you watch the ep?" and I was like . So she gave her a hotel key?!? Wth writers? Seriously? Why do you want all you characters to sleep with each other so fast? Again this is the reason why the ratings are so bad. Slow down, people! Now every time I watch the scene, I'm just going to laugh Another thing that bothered me was how Vincent all of a sudden "still loves" Catherine. He's been treating her like crap all season and apparently was sleeping with Tori so where is this coming from? Because Tori's last words were "you belong with Catherine"? Don't even get me started on that. Based on Tori's character she wouldn't even say that. Vincat is being forced.
If we're supposed to believe Vincent loves Catherine we need to see it, not hear forced dialogue. There should be longing looks from Vincent. Maybe a scene where Catherine looking cute and walking in slow motion and Vincent is just staring at her with some music playing in the background or something. Come on writers get it together. Yep, pretty much. If these people really want fans that are mad at the show to believe it in again, they should start working on this and fast. Because as much as these fans say they are going to stop watching the show, they still will watch it. Why? Because deep down they still think VinCat is down there. IMO right now it's REALLY DEEP DEEP down. I still want to try to ship VinCat even if I don't believe in big part of it but since I can't stop watching the show I'm into this until the end...so I really want them to show the love again instead of going over and over about how he is still in love with her. Like one of the reasons why I didn't enjoy the last episodes of season 1 was because Cat and Vincent kept going and going about their love. Instead of saying it, can you please show it? And NO, I'm not talking about sex. You ship a couple not only just because their kisses or the sex scenes. I'm not saying they are not good because I get VinCat have chemistry when it comes to sex scenes not in all their kisses. IMO. Kristin and Jay should practice this. They should sit down for like an hour and try to scream "I love you" for their characters through their eyes and body language to see if it works. Wasn't this season supposed to show us how they fall in love again? Well, it's not working so writers DO something, the clock is ticking
I have read fanfiction that is 1000 times better than resorting to this immature dribble. Next Vincent and Catherine will be passing notes to one another saying, "Do you like me? Yes or No"? Bahahaha I know what fanfics you have read and yea, those fanfics scream love Like Vincent Keller's fanfics. If the writers need help with the show, they should hire Katie. I can guarantee that the ratings will go up with one single episode ^ Oh, I don't like it either, but then Vincent would need to be examined by that same standard, to be fair. ^ I don't like Gabe and Cat together at all. We don't like Gaberine together and again nothing against Sendhil. Like I've said before I think he's an awesome actor. I enjoy his scenes with KK. I love his scenes with Nina and KK. I think they are hilarious but there is just something about gaberine as a couple that doesn't make it right. It's just weird and bad. I wish I could know why it feels like that. Exactly! I guess sleeping with Vincent only makes it right because he is the main character. Btw, I'm going to say this even when I shouldn't and no, I'm not saying this because it's Cat. I'm saying it because it always upsets me how women judge other women for what they do. I understand everyone has their point of view and I respect that but this is my point of view...Why women are so easily judged when they sleep with guys? Women call other women S... for doing it but if a guy does it, women and society just say: "He's being a guy. Men are like that". Please... We want Cat!!! We want to know about her past. What made her become the person she is. How she became a cop ....but we're not going to get it because they never listen to us...That trailer looked like all the previous of the arc of all those beasts that we watched during the first half of the season so again more beast even after they promised we would get to see Cat's arc. Cat's arc is now Gabe and Vincent with more beast sigh...oh well My thoughts exactly on the bolded parts. Well said. Thank you. Sad unfortunately, yet, my true feelings.
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Feb 12, 2014 2:35:49 GMT -5
First of all, let me congratulate your parents for the way they raised you Secondly, I agree with you, I don't like/accept sex as something casual. Finally, and as much as I don't agree with Catherine's decision to date Gabe and finally go to bed with him (because we all know that's what happened after the end of the ep), I "accepted" the fact they had sex because I don't think that Catherine finds it something "casual". She's in denial, for many reasons is trying to avoid or to let herself feel nothing but friendship for Vincent and is desperately trying to find some "normality" with the "good guy". So she deeply believes Gabe is a good guy and probably feels flatered and overwhelmed by Gabe's attentions. She didn't have sex with him until she "convinced" herself that he was not the beast he was before and that he has noble intentions (yeah, of course... ) so, IMO, going to bed with Gabe is not "something casual" for her. She really THINKS that she wants to be into that relationship. Not excusing the Gabe/Catherine thingy. I don't like it, a bit! but I don't think she's having with him "casual" sex. She's very conscious of what she's doing and thinks is the "right thing" I promise after BATB some words / concepts will never be the same for me... oh! btw! love your sig!!! I didn't know that. I guess I didn't think she was [like that], but hey. I've been wrong about this show before. oops! sorry, maybe I shouldn't write "all" but "I" think that they did it at the end of the ep. There are few spoilers about ep 14 that make me think so...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 3:58:51 GMT -5
Like Vincent Keller's fanfics. If the writers need help with the show, they should hire Katie. I can guarantee that the ratings will go up with one single episode THIS!!!! I just re-read some of 'Reboot' and all of 'Bring Me to Life' over the weekend! Katie sure knows how to write tearjerkers and angsty fics! Wish Katie and Sybil were our BATB writers
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Post by Catalena on Feb 12, 2014 4:08:46 GMT -5
In the show's defense, I loved this whole season and it just keeps on getting better. Here's why: My love life has followed the same trajectory that this show has. I understand Vincent and Catherine's side of this because I have been there personally. I had to walk away from my man because he refused to save himself and it brought me down to the point that I didn't recognize myself trying to save him. Like Cat, I had to walk away. I understand her wanting to be in a real functional relationship because at this point to her, Gabe has been there when she needed him most unlike Vincent and she needs support, love and friendship. To the critics of the "amazing love" storyline who say they don't get it, I do see that love there. Only it's not the side of love that you think of in fairy tales where everything is happily ever after with lots of kisses and make out time. It's the tougher side of love that neither Vincent nor Cat lost for one another. Cat loved Vincent enough to stop him from killing her father in cold blood. She loved him enough to walk away if it meant that he'd wake up. Which he did. He came to his senses. Cat is seeking Gabe right now because it's tough being alone when all you know is someone's love who's been there for you. And yes, it does make you want to go to the one person who's been there along and you know loves you at the moment. Yes, the two of them made poor choices at times and got lost along the way, but remember those of you who watch the Once Upon a Time tv show, that "True love will always find each other." But true love has to start with knowing who I am and then it's a process of realizing that the other person really does love you and you them. That is real life, unfortunately, rather than a romanticized version of love. This is the beauty of what this show captures. I'm a fan, personally. ETA: I may be naive, but I don't think that Cat and Gabe got horizontal. They kissed yes, but I think it was too early in the relationship for both of them. I just assumed that he drove her home or she drove herself home since the horizontal wasn't shown on camera. Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 6:57:43 GMT -5
Question. If you ONLY saw Season Two, would you be here now? Yes, I will because I'm a huge fan of Kristin Kreuk. I've loved her since I first saw her playing a character who was hiding inside a cemetery visiting her deceased parents in the middle of the night. Her eyes just pulled me in and I've been hooked to her since then But other than having Kristin, there was something about the final VinCat scene in episode 2x01 that made me cry for the first time in BATB. I have felt sad before during certain scenes, like when Vincent was kidnapped at the end of Season 1 ( though the whole editing left me disappointed and angry! ) and when Vincent didn't feel worthy or when Catherine saw Alex and Vincent kissing, but something about season 2 VinCat, all the pain and hurt both are feeling, all the suffering, is just captivating me and drawing me in. I don't know how to explain it really. And then we have Jay Ryan. I too fell in love with him in ep 2x01! Just the idea that he had been unwillingly kidnapped and had his precious memories stolen from him and had been turned into a killing monster hurt me and made me want to hug him. Then we have Catherine, whose had the love of her life kidnapped and ripped away from her by her father, achingly discover that he had no more memories of her. Who she is, the memories they shared, the love and connection they had for each other was taken away from him. My heart just broke for them both So, yes I will be here watching Season 2
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 7:00:08 GMT -5
In the show's defense, I loved this whole season and it just keeps on getting better. Here's why: My love life has followed the same trajectory that this show has. I understand Vincent and Catherine's side of this because I have been there personally. To the critics of the "amazing love" storyline who say they don't get it, I do see that love there. Only it's not the side of love that you think of in fairy tales where everything is happily ever after with lots of kisses and make out time. It's the tougher side of love that neither Vincent nor Cat lost for one another. Cat loved Vincent enough to stop him from killing her father in cold blood. She loved him enough to walk away if it meant that he'd wake up. Which he did. He came to his senses. Cat is seeking Gabe right now because it's tough being alone when all you know is someone's love who's been there for you. And yes, it does make you want to go to the one person who's been there along and you know loves you at the moment. Yes, the two of them made poor choices at times and got lost along the way, but remember those of you who watch the Once Upon a Time tv show, that "True love will always find each other." But true love has to start with knowing who I am and then it's a process of realizing that the other person really does love you and you them. That is real life, unfortunately, rather than a romanticized version of love. This is the beauty of what this show captures. I'm a fan, personally. I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS COMMENT!!
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Post by kfriend on Feb 12, 2014 7:02:27 GMT -5
I'm very happy that my text made you laugh. Ha ha
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Post by lucianebrasil on Feb 12, 2014 7:03:47 GMT -5
Question. If you ONLY saw Season Two, would you be here now? Yes, I will because I'm a huge fan of Kristin Kreuk. I've loved her since I first saw her playing a character who was hiding inside a cemetery visiting her deceased parents in the middle of the night. Her eyes just pulled me in and I've been hooked to her since then But other than having Kristin, there was something about the final VinCat scene in episode 2x01 that made me cry for the first time in BATB. I have felt sad before during certain scenes, like when Vincent was kidnapped at the end of Season 1 ( though the whole editing left me disappointed and angry! ) and when Vincent didn't feel worthy or when Catherine saw Alex and Vincent kissing, but something about season 2 VinCat, all the pain and hurt both are feeling, all the suffering, is just captivating me and drawing me in. I don't know how to explain it really. And then we have Jay Ryan. I too fell in love with him in ep 2x01! Just the idea that he had been unwillingly kidnapped and had his precious memories stolen from him and had been turned into a killing monster hurt me and made me want to hug him. Then we have Catherine, whose had the love of her life kidnapped and ripped away from her by her father, achingly discover that he had no more memories of her. Who she is, the memories they shared, the love and connection they had for each other was taken away from him. My heart just broke for them both So, yes I will be here watching Season 2 I sad and beautiful to watch ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3tOuV0cSkU
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Post by feezya on Feb 12, 2014 7:06:28 GMT -5
Question. If you ONLY saw Season Two, would you be here now? i believe i can only answer that when this season ends coz i discovered this forum after end of season 1, wanting more of batb before the beginning of S2
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Post by feezya on Feb 12, 2014 7:09:24 GMT -5
In the show's defense, I loved this whole season and it just keeps on getting better. Here's why: My love life has followed the same trajectory that this show has. I understand Vincent and Catherine's side of this because I have been there personally. I had to walk away from my man because he refused to save himself and it brought me down to the point that I didn't recognize myself trying to save him. Like Cat, I had to walk away. I understand her wanting to be in a real functional relationship because at this point to her, Gabe has been there when she needed him most unlike Vincent and she needs support, love and friendship. To the critics of the "amazing love" storyline who say they don't get it, I do see that love there. Only it's not the side of love that you think of in fairy tales where everything is happily ever after with lots of kisses and make out time. It's the tougher side of love that neither Vincent nor Cat lost for one another. Cat loved Vincent enough to stop him from killing her father in cold blood. She loved him enough to walk away if it meant that he'd wake up. Which he did. He came to his senses. Cat is seeking Gabe right now because it's tough being alone when all you know is someone's love who's been there for you. And yes, it does make you want to go to the one person who's been there along and you know loves you at the moment. Yes, the two of them made poor choices at times and got lost along the way, but remember those of you who watch the Once Upon a Time tv show, that "True love will always find each other." But true love has to start with knowing who I am and then it's a process of realizing that the other person really does love you and you them. That is real life, unfortunately, rather than a romanticized version of love. This is the beauty of what this show captures. I'm a fan, personally. ETA: I may be naive, but I don't think that Cat and Gabe got horizontal. They kissed yes, but I think it was too early in the relationship for both of them. I just assumed that he drove her home or she drove herself home since the horizontal wasn't shown on camera. so beautifully written
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Post by feezya on Feb 12, 2014 7:26:45 GMT -5
Yes, I will because I'm a huge fan of Kristin Kreuk. I've loved her since I first saw her playing a character who was hiding inside a cemetery visiting her deceased parents in the middle of the night. Her eyes just pulled me in and I've been hooked to her since then But other than having Kristin, there was something about the final VinCat scene in episode 2x01 that made me cry for the first time in BATB. I have felt sad before during certain scenes, like when Vincent was kidnapped at the end of Season 1 ( though the whole editing left me disappointed and angry! ) and when Vincent didn't feel worthy or when Catherine saw Alex and Vincent kissing, but something about season 2 VinCat, all the pain and hurt both are feeling, all the suffering, is just captivating me and drawing me in. I don't know how to explain it really. And then we have Jay Ryan. I too fell in love with him in ep 2x01! Just the idea that he had been unwillingly kidnapped and had his precious memories stolen from him and had been turned into a killing monster hurt me and made me want to hug him. Then we have Catherine, whose had the love of her life kidnapped and ripped away from her by her father, achingly discover that he had no more memories of her. Who she is, the memories they shared, the love and connection they had for each other was taken away from him. My heart just broke for them both So, yes I will be here watching Season 2 I sad and beautiful to watch ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3tOuV0cSkU arrgh it's so damn hard to stay mad at this guy
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Post by yfaruqi on Feb 12, 2014 7:52:35 GMT -5
Question. If you ONLY saw Season Two, would you be here now? For me that's a definite no. I may have watched the show like I do plenty of others and may have found it somewhat entertaining to pass the time but not to the point where it would compel me to join a forum. This is only the second forum I have been a part of and it's mostly because season 1 captured me and made me love these characters who actually had some character and values. It's pretty clear to me that because of poor ratings for season 1 they went for a different audience in hopes of increasing the fan base which makes total sense from a business perspective. After all people who watch shows like Arrow and TVD greatly outnumber the select few who watched BATB season 1. From what I can tell it hasn't quite worked so far in terms of ratings. I might have enjoyed season 2 had I not watched season 1 but it's hard to unlearn things as the season 2 writers want you to do. One of the things I learned from my favorite story of all time is try to see things as they are not as you would like them to be and that's what I'm trying to do now in hopes of eventually seeing something I would like..
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Post by ArwenFan on Feb 12, 2014 8:29:24 GMT -5
Question. If you ONLY saw Season Two, would you be here now? For me that's a definite no. I may have watched the show like I do plenty of others and may have found it somewhat entertaining to pass the time but not to the point where it would compel me to join a forum. This is only the second forum I have been a part of and it's mostly because season 1 captured me and made me love these characters who actually had some character and values. It's pretty clear to me that because of poor ratings for season 1 they went for a different audience in hopes of increasing the fan base which makes total sense from a business perspective. After all people who watch shows like Arrow and TVD greatly outnumber the select few who watched BATB season 1. From what I can tell it hasn't quite worked so far in terms of ratings. I might have enjoyed season 2 had I not watched season 1 but it's hard to unlearn things as the season 2 writers want you to do. One of the things I learned from my favorite story of all time is try to see things as they are not as you would like them to be and that's what I'm trying to do now in hopes of eventually seeing something I would like..Nice positive thought. I think I need a few more days before I can get to this point, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 8:35:25 GMT -5
Like Vincent Keller's fanfics. If the writers need help with the show, they should hire Katie. I can guarantee that the ratings will go up with one single episode THIS!!!! I just re-read some of 'Reboot' and all of 'Bring Me to Life' over the weekend! Katie sure knows how to write tearjerkers and angsty fics! Wish Katie and Sybil were our BATB writers I want to read these fanfics. Where can I find it?
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