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Post by feezya on Oct 17, 2013 5:14:41 GMT -5
Okay shoot me for what I'm going to say BUT..What's wrong with Gabe? Honestly I think Vincent has done worse with Catherine then Gabe has to her. Don't you think? I mean Gabe did throw her around in NTB but in his defense at that time Gabe truly had no control of his Beast side so in that sense I am sure that until Catherine relayed to him what he had done as a beast Gabe had no recollection of what he and done. As Vincent does know what he does in Beast mode. I said from the beginning that I like Gabe..Do I trust him no? But now we go back to Vincent, do I trust hm now after the end of the episode? NO So I wouldn't mind seeing Gabe try to at least hook up with Catherine. LOL As it stands right now, Catherine would be better off -- that is emotionally. Physically...well...I might have to take a little abuse and stick with Vincent! until some one better comes along But then that will raise the issue of the love triangle - which has already create storm among the beasties too. putting my self into the writers' shoes, i think i'd break some nerves somewhere in the brain trying to please everyone.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 17, 2013 5:27:48 GMT -5
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Post by feezya on Oct 17, 2013 5:34:37 GMT -5
at least she's still looking forward to next episode to see how the story develops/progress and didn't give up on the series entirely like some of our beasties are already doing
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 17, 2013 5:48:16 GMT -5
at least she's still looking forward to next episode to see how the story develops/progress and didn't give up on the series entirely like some of our beasties are already doing the reasons she didn't like it were different though, beasties didn't like the last scene. I don't agree with her. in fact, I preferred this episode to the previous one
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Post by feezya on Oct 17, 2013 6:03:29 GMT -5
at least she's still looking forward to next episode to see how the story develops/progress and didn't give up on the series entirely like some of our beasties are already doing the reasons she didn't like it were different though, beasties didn't like the last scene. I don't agree with her. in fact, I preferred this episode to the previous one storyline wise, i like the second one better too. showed real progress and continuity from the first one. oh heck, i like both. can't wait to see the next one unfold..
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 17, 2013 6:13:04 GMT -5
the reasons she didn't like it were different though, beasties didn't like the last scene. I don't agree with her. in fact, I preferred this episode to the previous one storyline wise, i like the second one better too. showed real progress and continuity from the first one. oh heck, i like both. can't wait to see the next one unfold.. can't wait to see the next 20 lol, and the next 22 after that (wishful thinking??)
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Post by sweetrosie29 on Oct 17, 2013 6:15:18 GMT -5
Bailing on the show is a bit much I didn't agree with the push bug I am interested to see how both react around each other now and building up that love, trust and accepting both have changed and be accepting if those changes. Vince is still in their which us what the writer's are showing us and in a way telling us to hang in there we need to stick up on tums like JT.
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Oct 17, 2013 6:36:18 GMT -5
LOL! I get why being upset over the last scent is 'over reacting.' It does seem like making 'mountains out of mole hills.' The probelm is, though, that a huge premise of the show was the trust they had in each other. Catherine trusted that Vincent 'would never hurt her.' The other part that is so upsetting, and I do "get" that people think differently these days, is that pushing/shoving a woman is never acceptable. You say it is no big deal....yet, if it happened to you (the way it was done to Catherine and/or in a more realistic sense, victims of abuse) do you think you would feel the same? Again, you can't compare this situation to real life. There has never been any history of abuse between Vincent and Catherine. These are extraordinary circumstances, and to be honest, knowing what Vincent is truly capable of when provoked, I'd say he was damned restrained. You definitely have a point there, Arwenfan! He WAS restrained...(honestly, she would p*ss any man off; let alone a "beast." LOL!
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Oct 17, 2013 6:39:54 GMT -5
I have been observing that there are comments about the final scene of episode 202. THE SHOVE I do not understand what is the problem (maybe is how people assimilates the escene).. in the sense that only saw a angry beast .. do not know how it compares to a beast is violent with a human being as if it were two human beings .. that's totally different. The writers had somehow prove that Vincent has no memory and is dangerous even for Catherine. Now that some fans did not approve the beast shove Cat by the "EPIC bond" that should they have.. is another theme This does not say that I approve of gender violence ... in case you did not understand my comment. But I think that encourage this kind of thought (that they have every right to do so), the series could be affected en ratings EVEN more ! Dayabeast, I so much agree with you! I was wondering why are people so UPSET with this scene that they can not let it go! And I'm starting to think that it's not so much about the physical damage but because in their brains that EPIC BOND has been broken and they feel somehow betrayed. I think this hate and short-sight to this scene is more due to the loss of that epic bond than the push itself Agreed. It truly is the "epic bond" thing in my mind. We have all had arguments with people we loved and "pushed" past them or yelled, etc. This was just unexpected and shocking, I think. One week at a time, Beasties! We are being set up for something much, much better!
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Post by evanarose on Oct 17, 2013 6:48:23 GMT -5
The push scene....I have mixed feelings about it... 1) It does make for interesting story line. The writers probably included this 'for the reaction'. They wanted fans to be shocked and surprised. I'm curious how the next vincat encounter will be. And I'm glad Cat finally admitted he was dangerous in the end. She was scaringly desperate, it was unhealthy...I mean I was even starting to wonder after the push, she'd just shrug it off and pled to V pretending like it didn't happen (denial.) :/ It does BUG me that V didn't HELP HER UP afterwards though :/ Yes, he was shocked and stunned that he may of not thought straight but still :I 2) On the bad side, it does annoy me in that now that V has pushed Cat; she doesn't believe he won't hurt her anymore mainly because I think what drew V to Cat in the first place was when she told him THAT and he knew she was telling the truth. I understand that V 2.0, isn't V 1.0 and the old V WOULD NEVER HURT CAT but still I had the feeling from the epi, the writers were meant to make as though V has the SAME PERSONALITY, it's ONLY HIS MEMORIES lost. This showed through the dialogue for instance V still liking the turkey sandwich (lol probably not the best example ) and when Cat talked about him telling her to stay away and she wouldn't, then him saying 'It sounds familiar.' Also seeing how he approached her giving her a glass of water, massaging her hand... I am curious whether V remembers more than he is letting on. He seems genuine in that he doesn't remember her...BUT we haven't seen him approach Cats dad and ask why did you wipe my memory? :/ And at the same time, seem more curious about his 'old life'. YES, he is programmed to do what Cats dad says but he doesn't seem THAT far way gone not to consider doing that :/
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 17, 2013 8:38:01 GMT -5
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Post by kiki09 on Oct 17, 2013 9:22:06 GMT -5
Well it's part of gawker.com so I don't rate anything coming out of there, neither should you. If you come from a negative place initially, especially when it comes to BATB, you will never come out of it and always bash the show IMO.
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Post by DayaBEASTS4 on Oct 17, 2013 9:42:38 GMT -5
I have been observing that there are comments about the final scene of episode 202. THE SHOVE I do not understand what is the problem (maybe is how people assimilates the escene).. in the sense that only saw a angry beast .. do not know how it compares to a beast is violent with a human being as if it were two human beings .. that's totally different. The writers had somehow prove that Vincent has no memory and is dangerous even for Catherine. Now that some fans did not approve the beast shove Cat by the "EPIC bond" that should they have.. is another theme This does not say that I approve of gender violence ... in case you did not understand my comment. But I think that encourage this kind of thought (that they have every right to do so), the series could be affected en ratings EVEN more ! Dayabeast, I so much agree with you! I was wondering why are people so UPSET with this scene that they can not let it go! And I'm starting to think that it's not so much about the physical damage but because in their brains that EPIC BOND has been broken and they feel somehow betrayed. I think this hate and short-sight to this scene is more due to the loss of that epic bond than the push itself A beastie knows that epic bond never be broken.. Maybe Savana ther are many options to see on TV....many things could be happen and is easy to find any excuse, also is a proof of loyal fans (the big quesion am I a fan of BATB? is easy understand that a "Beast is a Beast" I watch other show (Indeed several) but all my votes and work is for BATB no mather what! Think of it!! this show is soooo special that is part of me and put me off the thought that it will not be renewed I hope that trending event of friday break that animous!!
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Post by Lisa on Oct 17, 2013 10:20:21 GMT -5
So many people are saying that V shoved Cat. No, the beast did. He immediately turned back into V and was shocked and appalled at what he did. Zena said it before, he is beast 2.0...people have brainwashed and changed him.
Had V not been shocked and appalled, then I would be appalled, but he was. I'm not saying that makes what beast did ok, but maybe a tad more understandable.
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Post by DayaBEASTS4 on Oct 17, 2013 10:26:33 GMT -5
I want to congratulate the beasties of this forum for debate as well the last scene of 202.. keep it .. And answering the question of Yoly. I would like that she take a little distance from Vincent, ....... since she had her wakeup call. Be a little more careful, but do not stop helping him, since he has no blame for what M have done to him. For promos I see that he's looking for forgiveness or showing that they not wanted to do it with intention. And for some reasons he is looking for her
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