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Post by Ilaria on Jul 15, 2015 15:11:56 GMT -5
I was thinking about the jail scene and Catherine speaking with her dad. The 'box' he was referring to was obviously at his home. The one that VinCat went to thanksgiving dinner in Guess Who's Coming To Dinner. It is plausible that he kept that in memory of Vanessa. Now the fact that he sold the house and was in jail obviously decided to give it to her. Now obviously Catherine being angry at her mom I see why she never opened it until he reminded her of it. Besides with beasts...superhuman and VinCat always in danger I would have forgotten about it too. But I'm sure she ignored it cause she was angry and resented what her mom had done to Vincent and eventually to her. I'd like to find out if it was Vanessa to help Vincent to escape from Afghanistan, I was hoping she would say something in the video. It is from S1 which I hope will be revealed, because it is impossible he will be able by alone
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Post by Laura on Jul 15, 2015 15:16:57 GMT -5
I'd like to find out if it was Vanessa to help Vincent to escape from Afghanistan, I was hoping she would say something in the video. It is from S1 which I hope will be revealed, because it is impossible he will be able by alone
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 15, 2015 15:40:48 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 15, 2015 15:45:19 GMT -5
I'd like to find out if it was Vanessa to help Vincent to escape from Afghanistan, I was hoping she would say something in the video. It is from S1 which I hope will be revealed, because it is impossible he will be able by alone True but why should have Vanessa revealed anything about that to Catherine in that video? Only after Vanessa was killed did Catherine learn about beasts and 9 years later about Vincent and that her mom was the one who created beasts. Vanessa just explained she made a mistake and would have made amends if she was alive to do so.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jul 15, 2015 17:10:34 GMT -5
25 hrs., 57 mins. to go UNTIL I FINALLY SEE THIS EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much to see and process!!
At least the one benefit to being a US fan and choosing to be spoiled is that you know upfront just WHAT you want to pay extra-special attention to (i.e. ignore the stripper, watch and re-watch and re-watch Vanessa video).
Trying to see the positive in what feels like being THE LAST PERSON ON EARTH to finally SEE this highly-anticipated episode!
(I swear, I may finally lose it and really make a run for the Canadian border, I tell ya!)
Now 25 hrs., 50 mins. to go.
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Post by ebeline on Jul 15, 2015 17:28:26 GMT -5
25 hrs., 57 mins. to go UNTIL I FINALLY SEE THIS EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much to see and process!! At least the one benefit to being a US fan and choosing to be spoiled is that you know upfront just WHAT you want to pay extra-special attention to (i.e. ignore the stripper, watch and re-watch and re-watch Vanessa video). Trying to see the positive in what feels like being THE LAST PERSON ON EARTH to finally SEE this highly-anticipated episode! (I swear, I may finally lose it and really make a run for the Canadian border, I tell ya!) Now 25 hrs., 50 mins. to go. I´m quite sure you´ll like this ep. I love to read your comments about it. I didn´t post a comment about this ep because I didn´t know how to express my thoughts and feelings . I really love this ep and few scenes make me sit so and so at my screan. So now 24hrs,50mins until I can read your comment.
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Post by Laura on Jul 15, 2015 22:40:02 GMT -5
True but why should have Vanessa revealed anything about that to Catherine in that video? Only after Vanessa was killed did Catherine learn about beasts and 9 years later about Vincent and that her mom was the one who created beasts. Vanessa just explained she made a mistake and would have made amends if she was alive to do so. True, but as you see I just made part of the post bold Yes, she couldn't have possibly known at that time that Cat and Vincent would meet later and fall in love. But it would have been interesting to see Vincent talking about this, that Vanessa was the one who helped him escape. Of course this should have happened before, like, when got his memories back
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Post by sweetrosie29 on Jul 15, 2015 23:41:01 GMT -5
I know I'm late coming to this thread but I LOVED LOVED this episode and have watched it more than once the Vincat moments are very sweet and loving especially how Vincent is concerned over Cat and at one point when Tess tell's him that she'll be okay his reply of ' I hope so' is just and the look on his face. Have to agree with what has been said about Kristin's acting in this episode and especially when she's watching the video of her mom I too was along with her just the whole setting and the music was just done so beautifully and how they then tied it into being back in a church with Vincent and Catherine and their look's and talk again was just I get where the comparison with the subway talk comes in that is one of my all time favourite moment's in BATB history I love Vincent's reply when Cat aask's him how he always manages to find her ' Because I never stop looking' it did remind me of that and thart moment like many other's so far have me hooked every week and lookingforward to seeing a episode I'm just so glad that we finally have it back on in the UK :bliss-smiley:and now can't wait for it to come out on box set I have 1 and 2 but 2 I have only watched once but 1 and this season I think no I know I will watch again and again.
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Post by kiki09 on Jul 16, 2015 2:49:07 GMT -5
I'd like to find out if it was Vanessa to help Vincent to escape from Afghanistan, I was hoping she would say something in the video. It is from S1 which I hope will be revealed, because it is impossible he will be able by alone Yes!! We have been waiting 3 seasons but no mention about how he got out of Afghanistan.
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Post by ArwenFan on Jul 16, 2015 13:28:55 GMT -5
Hearing 1st season Cat talk about her mom and their relationship, I accepted it for what it probably was the special bonding that a parent and first born child sometimes share. I think lots of parents have a favorite whether they will admit it or not.Really? Really.
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Post by ArwenFan on Jul 16, 2015 13:37:06 GMT -5
There is a thing of the episode I doon't like... When Catherine, called Reynolds dad, and instead talking about Tom she calls him by name. For me it is nonsense, here they are wrong! I have never liked the way the writers have pushed Thomas aside. It doesn't matter that he didn't donate sperm to create Catherine, he was a father to her in every way possible and to simply ignore (white wash) his importance and place in her life is something that really, really bothers me. To have Catherine act as if Thomas was irrelevant because he wasn't her "birth" father leaves a sour taste for her in my mouth. I expect more from Catherine. Yes, go ahead and acknowledge the fact that Bob is her sire, but that's all he has ever been, then and now. Please acknowledge Thomas as her dad because that is what he was.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 16, 2015 18:48:16 GMT -5
Welcome to the discussion US beasties!!
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jul 16, 2015 19:11:41 GMT -5
Finally!! Stripper scene was not too bad!! Glad that is over. Loved "Aunt Claire" fainted...kinda cute. Loved Heather's sweater. Cat is more and more irritated with the Aunt's mentions of her mother. I am glad they introduced this family dynamic with Cat. Wow, so they have a supercharged human epidemic?? Interesting development. OMG............Kristin anger scene at the shower was full of controlled rage. I really haven't scene that since Smallville. Bravo Kristin! JT has "Proto-Beast DNA" just like Vincent........now they are "blood Brothers"!! Nice touch. Poor Vincent, his cousin (? missed the first few minutes) is a jerk. Very sad Vincent has no family to be close to. I really liked Cat's racing her car shots........very cool. Oh No.........the messenger took pics of Vincent and Cat......now whoever Big Baddie is, knows who they are. OK........Cat watching Vanessa's tape scene.......Kristin was outstanding! Kristin has always been a fabulous crier. How can she be beautiful and cry at the same time? So unfair. I always remember Kristin crying in the finale of Season 1 Smallville. Lana (KK) was driving home from saying goodbye to Whitney at the bus station and she was crying so hard she could hardly drive. Then Lana gets swept up in a Tornado and the rest is Smallville history. Anyway,........as much as I love Cat crying and remembering Vanessa.........I don't get it. I mean what did Cat really learn? Vanessa didn't really reveal anything that Cat didn't know. Vanessa was involved in something she thought was helping keeping her safe? Didn't Bob already tell Cat that? I think Cat made some peace with Vanessa because she knew at least her Mother loved her enough to make the video. Other than that, I honestly thought, after all this time, Vanessa might reveal something or someone. Something specific. I was disappointed in a way........it was anticlimactic to me. Then end was shocking. Can't wait to see who this Big Superhuman guy is next week. Overall, a very good episode. Story is finally moving forward. Oh and love me some Ted Whittall...........I want him to come back and do something to really help Vincent and Cat.
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Post by batb4evr1 on Jul 16, 2015 20:15:44 GMT -5
Hello My Beastie Loves! What a powerful episode! Love our VinCat! I always loved Vanessa and wanted her to get her opportunity to plead her case to Cat. She really believe she thought she was on the right side in the beginning but as we know that line very often gets extremely blurred as to who we are partnered with as progress is made.
I know Daddy Reynolds did some very bad things but sometimes in one's pursuit of what is right you can surrender your self and your morality. I really think he wants to be who he was before Muirfield. He has just dug such a deep hole he's going to need a leg up to see the light.
Looking forward to our next episode but dreading Season 4's end! I am so loving watching VinCat grow and let go but do not want their story to end, although I understand that all good thing sometimes ends. I'll still have my DVD to take me back to the fire escape and the glorious roof top! Yes and that beautiful face and voice, their kisses! Jay Ryan and Kristin Kreuk bravo!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 16, 2015 20:21:12 GMT -5
Finally!! Stripper scene was not too bad!! Glad that is over. Loved "Aunt Claire" fainted...kinda cute. Loved Heather's sweater. Cat is more and more irritated with the Aunt's mentions of her mother. I am glad they introduced this family dynamic with Cat. Wow, so they have a supercharged human epidemic?? Interesting development. OMG............Kristin anger scene at the shower was full of controlled rage. I really haven't scene that since Smallville. Bravo Kristin! JT has "Proto-Beast DNA" just like Vincent........now they are "blood Brothers"!! Nice touch. Poor Vincent, his cousin (? missed the first few minutes) is a jerk. Very sad Vincent has no family to be close to. I really liked Cat's racing her car shots........very cool. Oh No.........the messenger took pics of Vincent and Cat......now whoever Big Baddie is, knows who they are. What did you think of the EMOTIONAL scene while watching her mom?
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