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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 6:48:36 GMT -5
Thanks for all your hard work, solveig; the quality of the pictures is amazing...and thanks for giving us something with which to play.
It's hard to tell if the man is the beast and is giving back the necklace because he no longer wants to be tamed by it and the woman is begging him to keep it, or if the woman is the beast, she wants the necklace and he is simply taunting her with it (which seems cruel)...or does the woman want the necklace for the beast, who is her true love, and this man, a third party, is refusing to hand it over because he wants her to love him, and since she does not, he will not allow her to be happy with her beast.
Well, now that I have confused myself and everyone else, I'll wait to see what you, my much more discerning fellow beasties, all have to say.
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Post by solveig on Feb 1, 2014 19:02:31 GMT -5
Thanks for all your hard work, solveig; the quality of the pictures is amazing...and thanks for giving us something with which to play. It's hard to tell if the man is the beast and is giving back the necklace because he no longer wants to be tamed by it and the woman is begging him to keep it, or if the woman is the beast, she wants the necklace and he is simply taunting her with it (which seems cruel)...or does the woman want the necklace for the beast, who is her true love, and this man, a third party, is refusing to hand it over because he wants her to love him, and since she does not, he will not allow her to be happy with her beast. Well, now that I have confused myself and everyone else, I'll wait to see what you, my much more discerning fellow beasties, all have to say. Thank you  Just a couple of observations about the photos - I don't think the woman in the drawing is Rebecca. For some reason, I think this picture depicts a scene that predates Rebecca's experiences with the gem. Also, there are several objects on the floor and surrounding the couple - I couldn't figure out what they were. I managed to read part of the newspaper article, and it says that a man called Brad Grant (I don't think his first name was randomly chosen...) bought the necklace at Jessamyn (I'm not sure if this is the name of a place or the shop where he bought it) and was robbed and murdered right afterwards. The text then mentions that "Regent Insurance had issued a policy on the gem before they left the store, so the company's inspector, Rebecca Reynolds, will be assisting in the investigation in an attempt to determine the identity of the assailants". From what I could read at the end, there were no witnesses, and they were asking anyone with useful information to contact them. So, it seems that Rebecca was not the owner of the necklace, after all. Regarding the gem: emeralds are supposed to be the gems of love and balance, according to mystical interpretations. There are more details here: www.crystalvaults.com/crystal-encyclopedia/emeraldI was curious to know how much a necklace like that would cost... well, it's a small fortune! This emerald seems to be very pure and clear of imperfections, and it's also large, so it would be a very rare gem. Taking into account its size and quality, it could be worth over US$ 15,000 per carat. One carat is 0.2 g - judging by the images, I wouldn't be surprised if this emerald weights up to 200 carats! And we're not even taking into account the gold chain... (More details about pricing: www.azemerald.com/emeralds-pricing/)Just one final comment: JT mentioned that the collar was from the pleistocene period, and the gem fits perfectly in it. Well, in the pleistocene they hadn't developed yet the tools and methods required to produce the fine and precise oval cut that this gem seems to have. This would only have been possible a few thousand years later... Instead of claiming that this is a plot hole (which it may well be!), I will suggest a possible explanation: when it was part of the collar, the gem was in its rough state, but later owners paid a lapidary to cut it and add it to the necklace. Any thoughts? |
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Feb 1, 2014 20:41:20 GMT -5
Thanks for all your hard work, solveig; the quality of the pictures is amazing...and thanks for giving us something with which to play. Just one final comment: JT mentioned that the collar was from the pleistocene period, and the gem fits perfectly in it. Well, in the pleistocene they hadn't developed yet the tools and methods required to produce the fine and precise oval cut that this gem seems to have. This would only have been possible a few thousand years later... Instead of claiming that this is a plot hole (which it may well be!), I will suggest a possible explanation: when it was part of the collar, the gem was in its rough state, but later owners paid a lapidary to cut it and add it to the necklace. Any thoughts? Thanks for the great info!!
Bless your sharp eyes & great Technical Skills!
I agree on the age of the collar & brought it up that I didn't think they had iron 10,000 yrs ago.
Yolle said that JT was referring to the bones. That makes a bit more sense but also opens another can of worms, which I won't go into!! I'm hoping things will be sorted out as the story is unveiled!
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Feb 1, 2014 20:59:16 GMT -5
What do we about biodad - after Vanessa, was there any other woman in his life? does he have any other children? could he need the necklace for a family member? - He lives in Europe - He was flying to Geneva - had spent substantial time outside US - Thomas Chandler received an alert that biodad was returning to US - he was killed before he could tell Catherine what he knew - could biodad be big baddie - or maybe Zhao is a family member - a female scientist would have been a rarity when Gabe was a child - was Muirfield her father's company? - okay time for me to go to bed - sweet dreams beasties
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Post by gina on Feb 2, 2014 21:30:27 GMT -5
I don't want to have my hopes high because, really, who trust BatB's writers to create a character so good that would deceive the entire cast? That said...
I just think it's really odd how Gabe encircled himself in all aspects of Cat's life. He's rich so he doesn't necessarily needs a job, but he took over Joe's place as her boss. He made himself indispensable in Cat's life by being the rock she could lean on and made every single effort to help Vincent.
Funny thing is that he stopped helping Vincent as soon as he found out who his handler was. It might seem like he only wanted to bring Reynolds down. And win Cat's heart in the process.
Another thing I think it's weird is that he makes his feelings for Catherine very evident. I would say too much evident. Yet, every time a member of the cast asked him if he loves Cat, he says nothing. He doesn't deny, but doesn't confirm it either. Even when Tess cornered him, he found a way out without actually saying the words. In fact, he found a sneaky way to find out if Catherine had noticed it, too.
The funniest of all, is that he doesn't really give himself to her. He pulled back when she jumped him, send her on a quest to solve her unsolved feelings, gave her hope saying that he wanted to be with her, but made sure to "give her space" to find herself and, now in those infamous pics, he doesn't seem too excited to have Cat eagerly aiming his lips (spare a moment to puke).
One would think that he really doesn't want this relationship, huh? I wonder why is that? That IS a good question. There is more about it, I am pretty sure. Gabe is definitely sending MIXED messages to Cat. |
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Post by gina on Feb 2, 2014 21:38:07 GMT -5
Or, Tori's Dad had it put in the necklace for her, knowing that she's need controlling one day?? Hmm??!! You would think that after Windsor had his daughter that he would have found a way to test the DNA. If I was the mother I would have insisted! |
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Post by marikuna7 on Feb 3, 2014 0:15:45 GMT -5
Okay, after watching tonight's episode I am sure that Gabe is up to something not good... He was really weird and looked kind of mean most of the episode. Plus I think if he is all good he is kind of a boring character. Same way they said that Joe and Evan were not needed in the story anymore, I think Gabe is not needed either. They could have found a different love interest for Catherine instead of him. Plus at the end of the day saint Gabe who feeds the hungry and volunteers on the weekends is honestly boring!
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Post by texasscotian on Feb 3, 2014 0:31:30 GMT -5
Okay, after watching tonight's episode I am sure that Gabe is up to something not good... He was really weird and looked kind of mean most of the episode. Plus I think if he is all good he is kind of a boring character. Same way they said that Joe and Evan were not needed in the story anymore, I think Gabe is not needed either. They could have found a different love interest for Catherine instead of him. Plus at the end of the day saint Gabe who feeds the hungry and volunteers on the weekends is honestly boring! I liked Evan!! He didn't realize what he was getting himself into at first, and when he finally did, well it was too late for him.  He really did love Catherine, unrequited though that love was, and taking the blame and the bullet at the end was just sooooo sad!!  You're right about Gabe though... St. Gabe ain't no saint!!  The whole " Aww shucks ma'am... I'm just gonna wait for you till you say you're ready to ride off into the sunset with me" act is the biggest bunch of hooey I've ever seen!! Just wait... his true colors were starting to seep through tonight.. and they're gonna be bleeding out like a stuck pig pretty soon here!! |
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Post by eyeofthetiger on Feb 3, 2014 1:17:57 GMT -5
I do miss Evan. I believed his love for Catherine. He had no clue what he was getting into. Really wish they would tell us what he read. Remember during his convo w/ Vincent in muirfield v said he knew about whatever e read. It has to he more than just biodad drama... Maybe v will come clean and confess it all to Catherine. Maybe they can use the specimens to bring back Evan? After all, in the DVD s1 extras they did mention that his body was left in a muirfield lab. Maybe he's behind some of this drama... Perhaps he has been turned to the dark side like Darth Vader... Gabe could be his commander in the field executing and strategizing situations. Gabe does seem too good, to not be a little on the dodgy side.
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Post by Mycupoftea on Feb 3, 2014 4:53:49 GMT -5
As Tori had the effect on Vincent , more than just his beast, but his thoughts and feelings too. Does Vincent have that effect on Cathrine? When Vincent let go of his anger in 2x11, Cathrine became calmer and her anger disappeared too. Gabe seemed to notice this, he even seemed to comment on it, about it being Vincent who is unresolved. Also that he, Gabe was "pretty darn clueless", for not having spotted it before I'm thinking. Is he using Vincents feelings to get Cathrine for himself?
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Feb 11, 2014 18:32:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 19:48:43 GMT -5
I don't want Gabe to be bad and I already explained why, but the writers are really making difficult for us to believe in him.
One thing that got me very intrigued in this episode was his confidence when he told Vincent that he knew he was telling the truth. How was he that calm? He was being estrangled by a beast.
Vincent couldn't know if Reynolds was lying or not in his house. And Reynolds is the king of all kings in Liarland. I think that Reynolds left some kind of safety key on Vincent during his brainwash exactly to get out of a situation like that. It was crucial to his plans of eliminating beasts that Vincent trusted him completely.
What if Reynolds told Gabe how to activate this safety key during their little heart to heart? They made a deal that day and there was nothing more Reynolds wanted than to take Vincent away from Cat's life at any cost.
I just think that Vincent's abilities as lie detector aren't 100% to be trusted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 22:14:03 GMT -5
I don't want Gabe to be bad and I already explained why, but the writers are really making difficult for us to believe in him. One thing that got me very intrigued in this episode was his confidence when he told Vincent that he knew he was telling the truth. How was he that calm? He was being estrangled by a beast. Vincent couldn't know if Reynolds was lying or not in his house. And Reynolds is the king of all kings in Liarland. I think that Reynolds left some kind of safety key on Vincent during his brainwash exactly to get out of a situation like that. It was crucial to his plans of eliminating beasts that Vincent trusted him completely. What if Reynolds told Gabe how to activate this safety key during their little heart to heart? They made a deal that day and there was nothing more Reynolds wanted than to take Vincent away from Cat's life at any cost. I just think that Vincent's abilities as lie detector aren't 100% to be trusted. Interesting theory |
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Post by Catalena on Feb 12, 2014 8:54:43 GMT -5
I don't want Gabe to be bad and I already explained why, but the writers are really making difficult for us to believe in him. One thing that got me very intrigued in this episode was his confidence when he told Vincent that he knew he was telling the truth. How was he that calm? He was being estrangled by a beast. Vincent couldn't know if Reynolds was lying or not in his house. And Reynolds is the king of all kings in Liarland. I think that Reynolds left some kind of safety key on Vincent during his brainwash exactly to get out of a situation like that. It was crucial to his plans of eliminating beasts that Vincent trusted him completely. What if Reynolds told Gabe how to activate this safety key during their little heart to heart? They made a deal that day and there was nothing more Reynolds wanted than to take Vincent away from Cat's life at any cost. I just think that Vincent's abilities as lie detector aren't 100% to be trusted. woow you are creative! Great theory! |
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Post by jennieheartsbatb on Feb 13, 2014 1:38:08 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this but does anybody else see the resemblance of the green gem to green kryptonite.
With that being said, I'm wondering if there is an arc occurring that may be similar to a plot line in Smallville. Where the green kryptonite means "STOP" and the red kryptonite means "GO". Rather in this case red kryptonite is Tori (maybe any she-beast), as she was explained to have "amplified" Vincent's beast side and SERIOUSLY effect his behaviour LOL. Then the green kryptonite is the green gem and it stops any beastly transformation.
Catherine's ancestor (Rebecca) figures this out and is entrusted by someone or by some group as the "protector" of the gem. She passes this down the Reynolds family line which leads us to Catherine. But somebody maybe Agent Reynolds or someone previous from him had donated the gem to the Russian consulate thinking it was safer with them.
Speculations. Speculations. This is all just speculations *sigh*.
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He really did love Catherine, unrequited though that love was, and taking the blame and the bullet at the end was just sooooo sad!! 
The whole " Aww shucks ma'am... I'm just gonna wait for you till you say you're ready to ride off into the sunset with me" act is the biggest bunch of hooey I've ever seen!! Just wait... his true colors were starting to seep through tonight.. and they're gonna be bleeding out like a stuck pig pretty soon here!!
