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Post by kiki09 on Jan 29, 2014 12:04:22 GMT -5
Speak the truth Sav! But I find it interesting,and I hope they truly address this, cause it's been bugging me throughout this season, why everyone seems to have a heavy dose of amnesia re Gabe. Is all REALLY forgiven so much to the point that a) Cat considers him a viable option b) Tess is cool with it? Why haven't they addressed all the stuff Gabe has done? Helping to save V can't surely be enough for everything that Gabe has done to them. Why haven't they actually confronted the fact that they even needed to find and save V because of Gabe and his selfish need to save himself? That's why I really hope he's bad so all of these niggling things can come back into the light, cause it doesn't seem reasonable for it all to be brushed off so easily. I think they've done so to try to make us swallow that he's a good guy and better option than V 2.9 but yeah, who buys that?? Amnesia is not exclusive to Vincent this season! Cat & Tess forgot what Gabe did and Cat forgot that the guy he fell in love with wasn't a jerk but a wonderful man! That convo at the end of ep 11 bothered me! She blamed herself for falling in love with a jerk???! Sorry?? Did you forget how Vincent was before he was abducted, thanks to Gabe kidnapping you and trying to kill him?? Oh dear gosh! these things really annoy me  Agreed! It bothered me so much, I can't even express it in words. The level of amnesia and selective memory on display in that scene and throughout this season is really grating sometimes. |
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Post by solveig on Jan 29, 2014 12:21:17 GMT -5
Here's something that occurred to me regarding the mythology: in the past, the mysterious stone was part of a collar, but it was then transferred to a necklace - a woman's necklace. Does that mean that when it was last in use it was worn by a she-beast, in order to neutralize her beast side?? (Catherine's ancestor?  ?) This is actually very interesting....  I'm still thinking about it, and another idea has occurred to me: what if it is actually Catherine who has some (very) dormant beast genes, inherited from her ancestor, and they were used in Vincent's cocktail (perhaps in combination with something else)? So many possibilities, my head is spinning! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 12:23:36 GMT -5
Here's something that occurred to me regarding the mythology: in the past, the mysterious stone was part of a collar, but it was then transferred to a necklace - a woman's necklace. Does that mean that when it was last in use it was worn by a she-beast, in order to neutralize her beast side?? (Catherine's ancestor? ?) Hum, interesting. If there was a female beast in the past and in Cat's family, does it mean that Cat might indeed have some "beast gene" in herself? If that's the case, she would be an even more pure beast-hybrid than Tori. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 12:26:53 GMT -5
Vincent for being the one with the memory wipe even called Gabe out about wanting to kill him LOL Go V! But yes I agree with you guys...Why is Gabe so good? Killing and deceiving isn't good in my book. This is one of those moments (and S2 has a lot of them) where things only come to the surface when is convenient to the writers. So Vincent sees Gabe as the man that ruined his whole life and Cat doesn't? In what world that makes sense? |
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 29, 2014 12:37:58 GMT -5
I think they've done so to try to make us swallow that he's a good guy and better option than V 2.9 but yeah, who buys that?? Amnesia is not exclusive to Vincent this season! Cat & Tess forgot what Gabe did and Cat forgot that the guy he fell in love with wasn't a jerk but a wonderful man! That convo at the end of ep 11 bothered me! She blamed herself for falling in love with a jerk???! Sorry?? Did you forget how Vincent was before he was abducted, thanks to Gabe kidnapping you and trying to kill him?? Oh dear gosh! these things really annoy me Vincent for being the one with the memory wipe even called Gabe out about wanting to kill him LOL Go V! But yes I agree with you guys...Why is Gabe so good? Killing and deceiving isn't good in my book.[/quotei at u know it is possible that the writers have gone with the story gabe is actually a really good guy now because he was saved and that gave him a new perspective which he did not have as a beast. it is possible but i would hate that cause his character is as dull as anything |
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Post by kp definitely needs S3 on Jan 29, 2014 13:14:33 GMT -5
I was thinking about something that bother me for a while. In ep. 7 S2 when Tori try to kill herself and C asked Gabe to bring her the documents why Gabe took Tori with him at Reynolds house why didn't he left her at the hospital to recover.And when he arrives there he introduce Tori not to Reynolds after all he is the host right?, but to Vincent like he knows something, something that will happened with V if he touches her. I think he still want to get rid of him but in a way that also pull C closer. I think he knows that every time C is in danger V will help so last ep. he push V to go rescue the girls and the gem in hope that somebody (helicopter) shoot him C got the gem and he got C and the gem for a purpose.
Little messy I know.
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 29, 2014 17:28:21 GMT -5
Well, no need to look for that tweet, you would lose time... not worthy. But I wish so badly that he's a bad guy! really!!  Only someone who is truly BAD TO THE BONE can behave as sweetly as Gabe has been behaving. I mean, it's not humanly possible. We have a saying in Hungary: "he/she is TOO nice". Meaning: too sweet/nice to be real or trusted! Over the years I've found it to be true! That's why I haven't trusted Gabe since Day 1. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 29, 2014 17:34:30 GMT -5
Which makes me  about Tess. Cat is in the middle of a hurricane and can't see clearly what's going on around her. What's Tess excuse for being Gabe's #1 cheerleader? No idea... I guess she's in her own "hurricane" or just the writters wanted to emphasize the potential Gaberine relationship by making her best friend a shipper... Hopefully Tess has become a VinCat shipper again, after V saved her!  I see it as Gabe being so two-faced & is able to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. Often the hardest thing for people to see is what's closest to them. We also tend to see what we want/need to see.
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 29, 2014 17:41:19 GMT -5
Here's something that occurred to me regarding the mythology: in the past, the mysterious stone was part of a collar, but it was then transferred to a necklace - a woman's necklace. Does that mean that when it was last in use it was worn by a she-beast, in order to neutralize her beast side?? (Catherine's ancestor? ?) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 20:43:25 GMT -5
I don't want to have my hopes high because, really, who trust BatB's writers to create a character so good that would deceive the entire cast? That said...
I just think it's really odd how Gabe encircled himself in all aspects of Cat's life. He's rich so he doesn't necessarily needs a job, but he took over Joe's place as her boss. He made himself indispensable in Cat's life by being the rock she could lean on and made every single effort to help Vincent.
Funny thing is that he stopped helping Vincent as soon as he found out who his handler was. It might seem like he only wanted to bring Reynolds down. And win Cat's heart in the process.
Another thing I think it's weird is that he makes his feelings for Catherine very evident. I would say too much evident. Yet, every time a member of the cast asked him if he loves Cat, he says nothing. He doesn't deny, but doesn't confirm it either. Even when Tess cornered him, he found a way out without actually saying the words. In fact, he found a sneaky way to find out if Catherine had noticed it, too.
The funniest of all, is that he doesn't really give himself to her. He pulled back when she jumped him, send her on a quest to solve her unsolved feelings, gave her hope saying that he wanted to be with her, but made sure to "give her space" to find herself and, now in those infamous pics, he doesn't seem too excited to have Cat eagerly aiming his lips (spare a moment to puke).
One would think that he really doesn't want this relationship, huh? I wonder why is that?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 20:47:13 GMT -5
Here's something that occurred to me regarding the mythology: in the past, the mysterious stone was part of a collar, but it was then transferred to a necklace - a woman's necklace. Does that mean that when it was last in use it was worn by a she-beast, in order to neutralize her beast side?? (Catherine's ancestor? ?) |
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 29, 2014 20:54:15 GMT -5
In the coffee shop - Catherine and Tess had a conversation about Gabe - it took place after Vincent killed Zhao - something along the line of it's scary how good a liar Gabe is - he was giving a press conference about the body found in the park (zhao)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 22:28:39 GMT -5
Or, Tori's Dad had it put in the necklace for her, knowing that she's need controlling one day?? Hmm??!! But daddy Windsor certainly knew that Tori amplified his powers. That's why he kept her near, that's why he asked to see her when they had him tied down at the Gentlemen's Club. It shocked Gabe that Windsor had been able to break the chains holding him down...bit I' m not sure why her she-beast only manifested itself once daddy died. Will we ever get an answer? Probably not! |
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Post by solveig on Jan 30, 2014 4:04:38 GMT -5
Only someone who is truly BAD TO THE BONE can behave as sweetly as Gabe has been behaving. I mean, it's not humanly possible. We have a saying in Hungary: "he/she is TOO nice". Meaning: too sweet/nice to be real or trusted! Over the years I've found it to be true! That's why I haven't trusted Gabe since Day 1. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.
There's a similar saying in Latin which translates as "The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife". Somehow, I think all of these sayings might apply indeed... |
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Post by solveig on Jan 30, 2014 4:16:18 GMT -5
Here's something that occurred to me regarding the mythology: in the past, the mysterious stone was part of a collar, but it was then transferred to a necklace - a woman's necklace. Does that mean that when it was last in use it was worn by a she-beast, in order to neutralize her beast side?? (Catherine's ancestor? ?) If I understood it correctly, the gem had been transferred to the necklace long before Tori and her father were even born, so I don't think that would be the case. I remembered something that Gabe said to Catherine in the last episode: "I'm in, especially after you find out who you truly are" (or something similar to that). It makes me think that Gabe knew all along about Catherine's ancestor and (supposing my theory holds true) that Catherine inherited dormant beast genes which were used in the "cocktail" to create beasts. vanillasky, I agree with you that, if Catherine has those genes, she is indeed "more pure beast-hybrid than Tori": Tori inherited the beast side from her father, who was turned into a beast by Muirfield, whereas Catherine would be a direct descendant of a lineage of ancient beasts. (Or maybe none of this makes any sense, and the writers have chose a completely different explanation!...) Edited to add: unfortunately, I don't think this will happen, but I would love to see a flashback scene with Rebecca Reynolds and her "Vincent" (I am assuming there was a "Vincent" in her life too!), played by Kristin and Jay in period costume...  I think it could be really interesting if the roles were reversed: Rebecca would be the she-beast, and her "Vincent" would be her "beauty"! OK, I'm getting carried away, so I'll stop now! |
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about Tess. Cat is in the middle of a hurricane and can't see clearly what's going on around her. What's Tess excuse for being Gabe's #1 cheerleader?
