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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 24, 2014 13:31:26 GMT -5
What 'if' Vincent has to die again? ? Or maybe for a case Catherine or one of the others have to be dead?
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 24, 2014 13:32:44 GMT -5
What 'if' Vincent has to die again? ? Or maybe for a case Catherine or one of the others have to be dead? yes i think savana mentioned this - possible, right?
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 24, 2014 13:45:19 GMT -5
What 'if' Vincent has to die again? ? Or maybe for a case Catherine or one of the others have to be dead? Yeah that was my thought. They'll have to fake his death cause they are after him again...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 15:35:41 GMT -5
You know what would really make my day and make me start to believe Vincent's love again? Just one scene of Tori saying "You never call me Victoria." (or whatever name she has that interests me little).
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Post by Ilaria on Jan 24, 2014 15:39:49 GMT -5
You know what would really make my day and make me start to believe Vincent's love again? Just one scene of Tori saying "You never call me Victoria." (or whatever name she has that interests me little).
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Post by jemangela on Jan 24, 2014 16:35:36 GMT -5
I already figured everything out. They'll kill Tori at 212, Gabe at 214 and the big cliffhanger at 216 is that they'll kill Cat. So in the last 6 eps, Vincent and Tess will fall in love. After all, Tess is a beauty. .... ... *dead*
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Post by feezya on Jan 24, 2014 16:47:27 GMT -5
This article doesn't seem to belong to this forum at all. This is for fans; to discuss what they like and not, giving opinions and sharing spoilers. This article is just pure bashing; nothing good to say about Batb. More appropriate to be in a "I hate Batb" forum:puppydogeyes: I think this is from a very disgruntled fan, which was pretty much me after episode 10 and the 2 pics of Vin/Tori about to lock lips. There's no way someone who's not invested in the show can have that much info and spend time sharing all that...this person has watched BatB since Season 1 and I bet you, they have watched the episodes more than once....they are fuming mad with direction and they just let it rip.... i'm sure all of us have been there, or still there at one time or another. this person seems to be in that "dark place" from the very beginning until present time. hardly make her/him a fan IMO
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Post by feezya on Jan 24, 2014 17:14:42 GMT -5
I would agree that Vincent showed concerned for Catherine but,.......his first words were "What Beast?.......then he says, "Is she OK?" So, even though we saw a glimmer of protectiveness for Cat,.......I couldn't separate the fact that Vincent was alerted to a new Beast that was around! Remember, Vincent was still on his Beast killing missions at that time. The end of Reunion, between Vincent and Cat, was the closest I say these two were emotionally and would possibly label that some act of "love" from Vincent.....but for me, that is a stretch. To see a connection you need two. We started s2 with V being off for obvious reasons. Cat was more engaged for obvious reasons again. But as episodes past V had more and more conmectiom with her while she started to slowly disconnect due to all the mistrust, shove, news about her father... We reached a point where both were starting to tune in again (ep 4 and 5) but since Tori appeared and V started to lose control (don't mean sex attraction), norhkng was the same. Remember at the beg of ep 7 (before the T/V kiss) some of us felt catherine was not all lovey and sweet with V (didn't seem she loved him either) V has shown he cares for her deeply and want to have her in his life but many things happened and he was coming from a non-memory situation so it's not fair to expect he showed how much he loves her im that period. Wouldn't feel realistic... As I sald, I can't wait to see that look in both of them... True, they never seemed to be "in sync" but i did see a few loving moments esp in Hothead
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 25, 2014 13:23:29 GMT -5
Okay, this has been bugging me since the start of the second season - in the first season Gabe needed meds to keep his beast under control and Vincent lived in hiding - Now in season two - there are beasts all over the place that can transform at will or not - what happened??? - was Vincent and Gabe the only two who had no control - what about his unit that was killed because they could not be controlled - this is a pretty big plot hole for me - Tori seems to have more control and she is just a baby beast still finding her way - in public no less - I don't understand - I can suspend belief but it has to still make some kind of sense - what cocktail was he given? did he just have a different reaction to the injections? any ideas???
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 25, 2014 15:13:55 GMT -5
Okay, this has been bugging me since the start of the second season - in the first season Gabe needed meds to keep his beast under control and Vincent lived in hiding - Now in season two - there are beasts all over the place that can transform at will or not - what happened??? - was Vincent and Gabe the only two who had no control - what about his unit that was killed because they could not be controlled - this is a pretty big plot hole for me - Tori seems to have more control and she is just a baby beast still finding her way - in public no less - I don't understand - I can suspend belief but it has to still make some kind of sense - what cocktail was he given? did he just have a different reaction to the injections? any ideas??? oh i can feel your pain - and your thoughts were my thoughts but i dont really think of these "details" (In brackets cause they are more than just detaisl) and accept them as poetic license linked to the scifi element of the show
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 25, 2014 16:15:24 GMT -5
Okay, this has been bugging me since the start of the second season - in the first season Gabe needed meds to keep his beast under control and Vincent lived in hiding - Now in season two - there are beasts all over the place that can transform at will or not - what happened??? - was Vincent and Gabe the only two who had no control - what about his unit that was killed because they could not be controlled - this is a pretty big plot hole for me - Tori seems to have more control and she is just a baby beast still finding her way - in public no less - I don't understand - I can suspend belief but it has to still make some kind of sense - what cocktail was he given? did he just have a different reaction to the injections? any ideas??? oh i can feel your pain - and your thoughts were my thoughts but i dont really think of these "details" (In brackets cause they are more than just detaisl) and accept them as poetic license linked to the scifi element of the show the whole premise of the first season was that they had no control - the reason they had to be destroyed - because they only get worse - to paraphrase Catherine during the alex arc - I'm mystified
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 25, 2014 16:37:31 GMT -5
oh i can feel your pain - and your thoughts were my thoughts but i dont really think of these "details" (In brackets cause they are more than just detaisl) and accept them as poetic license linked to the scifi element of the show the whole premise of the first season was that they had no control - the reason they had to be destroyed - because they only get worse - to paraphrase Catherine during the alex arc - I'm mystified I honestly think that everything we knew that was applicable to Season 1 is up for reinterpretation. The only thing that I know for a fact is that Catherine and Vincent did love each other. They said it and I felt it. Anything and everything could be manipulated to fit whatever storyline they wish. They could bring back Evan. Or they could bring back Heather and say that she knew everything about her mother and Muirfield or that her father woke up and told her about Reynolds and all the secrets. Nothing makes sense to me at this point and anything is plausible. That is the problem I have nothing to hold onto within this storyline that won't or can't be pulled out from underneath me. It is very unsettling.......I do like to have some constant in a storyline. Even LOST had a "constant" ( How I loved Desmond). If you followed LOST you know what I am talking about.
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 25, 2014 16:41:59 GMT -5
the whole premise of the first season was that they had no control - the reason they had to be destroyed - because they only get worse - to paraphrase Catherine during the alex arc - I'm mystified I honestly think that everything we knew that was applicable to Season 1 is up for reinterpretation. The only thing that I know for a fact is that Catherine and Vincent did love each other. They said it and I felt it. Anything and everything could be manipulated to fit whatever storyline they wish. They could bring back Evan. Or they could bring back Heather and say that she knew everything about her mother and Muirfield or that her father woke up and told her about Reynolds and all the secrets. Nothing makes sense to me at this point and anything is plausible. That is the problem I have nothing to hold onto within this storyline that won't or can't be pulled out from underneath me. It is very unsettling.......I do like to have some constant in a storyline. Even LOST had a "constant" ( How I loved Desmond). If you followed LOST you know what I am talking about. there is no constant - not even the love between Catherine and Vincent - they killed that too - I need happy thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 16:51:57 GMT -5
What if "breaking the bro code" is just JT calling Vincent out in his and telling to his face everything he did wrong and accusing him of intentionally destroying every chance he had with Cat? I think bro code is always backing up your bro. If you "take away your unconditional support", you'll be breaking the code, right? Or maybe he'll just hit on Cat since she's in the open accepting every scum's advances.
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Post by curly on Jan 25, 2014 21:11:48 GMT -5
oh i can feel your pain - and your thoughts were my thoughts but i dont really think of these "details" (In brackets cause they are more than just detaisl) and accept them as poetic license linked to the scifi element of the show the whole premise of the first season was that they had no control - the reason they had to be destroyed - because they only get worse - to paraphrase Catherine during the alex arc - I'm mystified Gabe was considered a 1st generation beast. He was stronger and more uncontrollable. He took meds so that he could live normally. Cats mom was the 1st to give them to him. Then he had to create his own when they stopped working but eventually they were making him sick and he needed body parts or blood etc from Vincent so he could recreate himself. When Vincent took Gabe's medication it almost cured him and would have until Cat gave him a vaccine so he could defend himself from big bad Gabe. However, thorough season 1 Vincent was learning to control himself better at the help of Cat but also probably because he had to. Gabe was sleeping around with that girl but he was on meds while Vincent was able to achieve that without meds. LOL He had been hiding so long and never had to IMO, so it was something that he had to learn 1st hand. Tori is another or different story all together because she was born this way (different DNA makeup I guess) and I don't think we know yet her deal nor does she or anybody for that matter. It just started to appear. I think thats on purpose and will come to a head at some point because she probably should not be out and about in public being unpredictable et...which is why I think Cat, Tess, and Gabe are trying to convince the FBI lady in that clip not to bring her in for questioning. Lets face it we have only seen her glow, tip stuff over and runaway. So Im guessing we will see something more sooner when she is jealous etc.... After Vincent was captured he was altered and has even more physical control which is why his decision to go after Daddy Reynolds was suppose to be a big deal but supercharged Vincent couldn't sympathize or see past his hatred and anger which is again something he will probably learn soon the hard way. II actually didnt see to many holes in that story line last season because they beast that control issue like a dead horse.
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