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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 2, 2014 16:48:01 GMT -5
Austin Basis @austinbasis 8m @anapianapia difficult 2 say- ep212 & ep213 but ep214 also different twists & turns both good & bad ) #AskJT #BeastUp #DontStopBATBelieving the question i asked was which of 212-214 has the most revelations? Agh! good & bad...  lol do u expect the writers to leave them live happily ever after...maybe in ep. 22 lol |
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 2, 2014 16:51:44 GMT -5
Amandine @melle_Dine 59m @austinbasis Do you think Gabe 2.0 is hiding something ? #AskJT #BatB #W9 Reply Retweet Favorite More Expand Austin Basis @austinbasis 15m @melle_Dine JT definitely thinks Gabe 2.0 is hiding something- or has ulterior motives in helping Vincent... What do you think? #AskJT #BATB Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorited More 16 RETWEETS 15 FAVORITES Catharine RousselWeAreTheSameMónica Garcia RivasYornAmandineJessyGPaid-den 1:29 PM - 2 Feb 2014 · Details Oh Gosh! is he teasing us?  I LOVE HIM! well if jt thinks gabe is shady he HAS TO BE SHADY RIGHT? |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Feb 2, 2014 16:52:13 GMT -5
Oh Gosh! is he teasing us? I LOVE HIM! well if jt thinks gabe is shady he HAS TO BE SHADY RIGHT?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 16:54:31 GMT -5
I don't know yet how to copy paste from Twitter, but have you read...? There will be MANY brides in Ep-213. That's all I can say. by @austinbasis Oh my! can you imagine a dream with VinCat getting married?  Even bettere if Vincent was the one dreaming.......thus MAJOR pining. |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Feb 2, 2014 17:03:26 GMT -5
Oh my! can you imagine a dream with VinCat getting married? Even bettere if Vincent was the one dreaming.......thus MAJOR pining. YESSSS!!!! That would be AWESOME!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 17:03:39 GMT -5
Oh my! can you imagine a dream with VinCat getting married? Even bettere if Vincent was the one dreaming.......thus MAJOR pining. Even better - Vincent having a nightmare with Gabe and Catherine getting married. That might explain what someone said about Gabe being at the wedding "sort of". That would definitely jolt his feelings and spur him to action. |
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Feb 2, 2014 17:06:20 GMT -5
I don't know yet how to copy paste from Twitter, but have you read...? There will be MANY brides in Ep-213. That's all I can say. by @austinbasis Oh my! can you imagine a dream with VinCat getting married? Forget the wedding.  On to the Honeymoon!! 
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Feb 2, 2014 17:08:27 GMT -5
Oh my! can you imagine a dream with VinCat getting married? Forget the wedding. On to the Honeymoon!!
Lol! but they were talking about Brides!!! we can get into honeymoon right after that!  |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Feb 2, 2014 17:10:18 GMT -5
Not necessarily. JT will always be Team Vincent. Wether or not there's Gabe shippers around and the writers are all so infantuated with him that they're trying to prove that he's better than Vincent, the man did try to kill Beast once. After destroying Vincent's life, he's trying to steal his love. What loyal friend would like him and/or not be suspicious of him?
I said in the Mythology thread that Vincent is a walking lie detector. Wouldn't he know if Gabe is lying or not? So far, he didn't seem to think like that. It's sad, but I think Gabe is really good.  SO FAR - we haven't reached episode 22 yet - a lot can still happen - he might accept an offer from biodad when Vincent and Catherine get back together - he will be back Actually I think the deal was already done in prison, when Gabe went to ask for the code and change the bullets... ep 9... |
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 2, 2014 17:11:07 GMT -5
well if jt thinks gabe is shady he HAS TO BE SHADY RIGHT?
I said in the Mythology thread that Vincent is a walking lie detector. Wouldn't he know if Gabe is lying or not? So far, he didn't seem to think like that. It's sad, but I think Gabe is really good. regarding the first point in bold I do not think that is the case, I think the writers are rooting for vincent and i think they may possibly be trying to convince us that gabe is good and then throw a bombshell regarding the second point in bold, this is a very good point but i think this ability of vincent is used selectively by the writers and forms one of the many plotholes (my view anyway) |
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Post by Sayuri_happy_4_s3 on Feb 2, 2014 17:11:33 GMT -5
Not necessarily. JT will always be Team Vincent. Wether or not there's Gabe shippers around and the writers are all so infantuated with him that they're trying to prove that he's better than Vincent, the man did try to kill Beast once. After destroying Vincent's life, he's trying to steal his love. What loyal friend would like him and/or not be suspicious of him?
I said in the Mythology thread that Vincent is a walking lie detector. Wouldn't he know if Gabe is lying or not? So far, he didn't seem to think like that. It's sad, but I think Gabe is really good. SO FAR - we haven't reached episode 22 yet - a lot can still happen - he might accept an offer from biodad when Vincent and Catherine get back together - he will be back I agree!! They both made a creepy face when Gabe went to visit BioDad to his cell. And I am going to bed NOW because I am too jealous of Canadian beasties who will see 212 in just a few hours and I cannot wait until tomorrow night! Argh! |
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 2, 2014 17:32:46 GMT -5
to be fair, i am not even sure there will be a kiss Exactly. Honestly, I am not at all a Tori "fan," but we need to give the character a break here. Vincent is experiencing some MAJOR issues right now. He is confused; scared of his feelings/emotions towards Catherine; afraid of finding out who/what he is; and is in total denial. Yep, like many of us in real-life situations, he is running in the wrong direction and to the wrong person for comfort. Tori is young, confused, has no one left, and is living with the new-found knowledge that she is a 1/2-she Beast! Wouldn't you latch on to someone that was "like" you (and so handsome as well!). The picture seems to show Tori being surprised and leaning away from Vincent when he goes in for the kiss. It occurred to me that maybe Tori was being "lead on" by Vincent. Tori having that "connection" to him probably knows where his heart truly lies. It seems that Vincent and Tori are a knee-jerk reaction together; a "rebound" move for both of them. It has nothing to do with true love. In good conscience I cannot blame Tori or Gabe for the way they are responding to Vincent and Catherine. They are pawns in this mess. IMHO, the writers wanted to completely "break" the bond between Vincent and Catherine. They are doing that. Although I am not crazy about the way they have written the story, the characters were due for some angst and longing. It just seems that the way the writers are having the story play out is at a different level and out of character. All I can say is hopefully, this will also lead to the re-building of the relationship and them finding each other for "real" reasons, not just because they were needy and in hiding (Vincent) or feeling guilty about Mom's death (Catherine). I want VinCat back, but mostly I want the characters to be the people we met last season. They've lost their way. They will find it. (You can throw tomatoes now --  !) I'm not throwing tomatoes, just posing a bit of a counterpoint to your perspective…  I don't hold Tori as accountable as I hold Gabe. Having said that, I strongly dislike Tori's character because I don't think she has been given much to like by the writers. A little bit of character depth would not have hurt anyone… Playing the damsel in distress, or victim out of becoming a she-beast and acting like Vincent is 'hers' just because they have the beast-on-beast "supposed" connection… how were we supposed to feel about her? Anything less than hate, seems unlikely. She is an antagonist, and as far as I can see, not much more than that…. But it is true, in my eyes, at least that she barely saw Vincent and Catherine as Vincent and Catherine, and as such she may feel she does have a legitimate claim over Vincent… still lowers the character in my eyes, but not as much as Gabe… As for Gabe, at the very least he knew how Catherine and Vincent felt about each other, and as such he is being an opportunistic bastard about the whole situation. He is the farthest thing from the perfect guy the writers are trying to paint him as… the perfect guy does not move in on a woman as emotionally vulnerable and damaged as Catherine, and if he has feelings for her, he at least has the good grace to keep them to himself. Gabe is a shady character, so I do blame him for the way he responds to Catherine. He wants to be the warm body that she falls on. I think he is a little more than a pawn in the mess… My problem with the whole thing, and it is my problem, is that if they were going to "break the bond between Vincent and Catherine" - they are going about it entirely in the wrong way. Being cruel to each other - pushing the outside limits of what is believable - is not the way to accomplish angst. They bastardized their own characters by writing actions and words that are not the slightest bit believable, and then they ask us to trust them in this journey. You don't fall in love with the love of your life, then later try to kill him/her, and then play at a bit of spirited partner swapping. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that this was ever anything more than the typical low brow CW-SOAP-OF-THE-WEEK-Made-for-TV-LOVE-TRIANGLING. They killed two birds with one stone - the problem is that most of us don't believe this storyline is believable… so in an effort to attract the typical teen CW audience, a measure that seems to have failed, they have done what feels very much like irreparable damage to our characters. I mean, at the end of the day, the writing on the wall is the writing on the wall. They were writing bit of Romeo & Julietesque Shakespearean fairytale, and now that has been been desecrated by graffiti. It's not complicated, it's just a kind of mundane. ETA: And for the record, I will be a bit more forgiving when they put the car in reverse and back the heck up out of this mess - and do some fast explaining in the process. |
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Feb 2, 2014 22:26:51 GMT -5
Exactly. Honestly, I am not at all a Tori "fan," but we need to give the character a break here. Vincent is experiencing some MAJOR issues right now. He is confused; scared of his feelings/emotions towards Catherine; afraid of finding out who/what he is; and is in total denial. Yep, like many of us in real-life situations, he is running in the wrong direction and to the wrong person for comfort. Tori is young, confused, has no one left, and is living with the new-found knowledge that she is a 1/2-she Beast! Wouldn't you latch on to someone that was "like" you (and so handsome as well!). The picture seems to show Tori being surprised and leaning away from Vincent when he goes in for the kiss. It occurred to me that maybe Tori was being "lead on" by Vincent. Tori having that "connection" to him probably knows where his heart truly lies. It seems that Vincent and Tori are a knee-jerk reaction together; a "rebound" move for both of them. It has nothing to do with true love. In good conscience I cannot blame Tori or Gabe for the way they are responding to Vincent and Catherine. They are pawns in this mess. IMHO, the writers wanted to completely "break" the bond between Vincent and Catherine. They are doing that. Although I am not crazy about the way they have written the story, the characters were due for some angst and longing. It just seems that the way the writers are having the story play out is at a different level and out of character. All I can say is hopefully, this will also lead to the re-building of the relationship and them finding each other for "real" reasons, not just because they were needy and in hiding (Vincent) or feeling guilty about Mom's death (Catherine). I want VinCat back, but mostly I want the characters to be the people we met last season. They've lost their way. They will find it. (You can throw tomatoes now -- !) I'm not throwing tomatoes, just posing a bit of a counterpoint to your perspective… I don't hold Tori as accountable as I hold Gabe. Having said that, I strongly dislike Tori's character because I don't think she has been given much to like by the writers. A little bit of character depth would not have hurt anyone… Playing the damsel in distress, or victim out of becoming a she-beast and acting like Vincent is 'hers' just because they have the beast-on-beast "supposed" connection… how were we supposed to feel about her? Anything less than hate, seems unlikely. She is an antagonist, and as far as I can see, not much more than that…. But it is true, in my eyes, at least that she barely saw Vincent and Catherine as Vincent and Catherine, and as such she may feel she does have a legitimate claim over Vincent… still lowers the character in my eyes, but not as much as Gabe… As for Gabe, at the very least he knew how Catherine and Vincent felt about each other, and as such he is being an opportunistic bastard about the whole situation. He is the farthest thing from the perfect guy the writers are trying to paint him as… the perfect guy does not move in on a woman as emotionally vulnerable and damaged as Catherine, and if he has feelings for her, he at least has the good grace to keep them to himself. Gabe is a shady character, so I do blame him for the way he responds to Catherine. He wants to be the warm body that she falls on. I think he is a little more than a pawn in the mess… My problem with the whole thing, and it is my problem, is that if they were going to "break the bond between Vincent and Catherine" - they are going about it entirely in the wrong way. Being cruel to each other - pushing the outside limits of what is believable - is not the way to accomplish angst. They bastardized their own characters by writing actions and words that are not the slightest bit believable, and then they ask us to trust them in this journey. You don't fall in love with the love of your life, then later try to kill him/her, and then play at a bit of spirited partner swapping. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that this was ever anything more than the typical low brow CW-SOAP-OF-THE-WEEK-Made-for-TV-LOVE-TRIANGLING. They killed two birds with one stone - the problem is that most of us don't believe this storyline is believable… so in an effort to attract the typical teen CW audience, a measure that seems to have failed, they have done what feels very much like irreparable damage to our characters. I mean, at the end of the day, the writing on the wall is the writing on the wall. They were writing bit of Romeo & Julietesque Shakespearean fairytale, and now that has been been desecrated by graffiti. It's not complicated, it's just a kind of mundane. ETA: And for the record, I will be a bit more forgiving when they put the car in reverse and back the heck up out of this mess - and do some fast explaining in the process. I agree with you. The characters are unrecognizeable. Gabe is not as innocent as he appears (thank goodness! LOL!) and IMHO the way they wrote the story is rather disheartening. On the same page; you just clarified and gave great details! |
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Post by Reyna on Feb 3, 2014 0:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 3, 2014 3:03:46 GMT -5
lol thanks, i asked this question and i had not even seen the asnwer yet ! edit: lol no i had not asked this, but a similar one!! |
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