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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 11:12:09 GMT -5
E poll ends tomorrow. We need to get JTT back on top! Vincat are down to 1.6% WOW. Common guys let's vote.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 11:08:13 GMT -5
No the numbers are lower. Pre empted means the show aired later in that region because of the game. So I guess they have to calculate how many watched it later when it aired? So it should only go up. Also did anyone notice than an extra 60 k people tuned in for the latter part of the episode? Woohoo. No unfortunately when preempted the numbers show higher and then go down. Don't ask me why don't know the ins and outs.. The numbers should either remain steady or adjust up. Sacramento and San Francisco are both on Pacific Time (West Coast).So I was right?
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 11:03:25 GMT -5
No the numbers are lower. Pre empted means the show aired later in that region because of the game. So I guess they have to calculate how many watched it later when it aired? So it should only go up. Also did anyone notice than an extra 60 k people tuned in for the latter part of the episode? Woohoo. No unfortunately when preempted the numbers show higher and then go down. Don't ask me why don't know the ins and outs.. Really? That's stupid.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 11:02:07 GMT -5
what do u guys thinking abt batb going as a summer show next year starting from june instead of january ?? cuz cw doesnt have the good record of renewing mid season shows (except the100) and summer shows doesnt need to worry abt ratings like fall shows I could put up with that if it means we get a 4th 13 ep season. But I don't think they plan to generally have us as a summer show butvu never know I still have a feeling that if I zombie or jane the virgin don't take off as expected, they might bring batb back on our screens earlier and maybe even get more then 13 episodes I believe that's why CW is keeping hush about the order number
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 10:59:19 GMT -5
Preliminary Ratings Beauty and the Beast = 0.3 Demo / 0.88 Viewers
9:00 PM – 9:30 PM = 0.3 Demo / 843,000 Viewers
9:30 PM – 10:00 PM = 0.3 Demo / 909,000 Viewers(Note: The numbers are rounded)
OK so numbers are higher cause of preemption? Hopefully they don't fall much No the numbers are lower. Pre empted means the show aired later in that region because of the game. So I guess they have to calculate how many watched it later when it aired? So it should only go up. Also did anyone notice than an extra 60 k people tuned in for the latter part of the episode? Woohoo.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 10:49:10 GMT -5
You have to be kidding me about this crap with Tori and a possible baby? I hope this has been "Trashed" Oh it's just my personal theory - the way I see the creation of the Tori character. They were always going to share a sexual relationship, and I personally see no need for it other than the potential for a beast baby. Yes, it is a crap storyline, it's just the way I see it. I never saw a point or purpose for her character. They failed to establish a place for her character on the show, IMO, just my personal feels on the Tori situation. Why was she there? I still don't have a clue besides this. Of course they dumped half of their S2 plan and killed her off early, so perhaps they trashed the beast baby idea. But the potential was always there, that is all I'm saying. Where there is sex, there is the potential for a pregnancy, that is it. Period. And both she and V. are/were full blooded beasts. Think of the potential story lines... If I were going to write Tori's character, that is the only way she would really serve a long-term purpose on the show. Otherwise, she's just another short term blip on the radar, like Alex. But Vincent and Alex didn't have sex... So why, WHY did he and Tori need to? I mean, where there is sex, there exists potential for babies. period. Well Vincent and Alex never had sex cuz he was afraid to change if you remember plus back then he was more with Alex cause he thought he could run away and be the good old doctor Vinnie Keller again
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 10:45:15 GMT -5
I still think one of the planned story lines for S3 or S4 - particularly when it came to "VinCat hurdles" was meant to be the return of Tori with a pregnancy or child conceived by her and Vincent. I never understood the need for a "sexual" relationship between them if the ultimate goal was not the conception of a full blooded beast child - plus that would have the added benefit of creating issues for VinCat for the life of the show. Now whether or not that idea was trashed when fans started jumping ship because they hated Tori... remains to be seen. I was just never convinced of her death. We just saw that ambulance speeding away, and there was no conclusion... I never EVER saw any other purpose for her character in the story other than to conceive a full blooded beast baby with Vincent. She remained completely superfluous, character-wise in my eyes, and I could see no other reasoning for her creation as a character on the show. I'm not trying to complain about the character, but it was an epic fail for me, to see any other point than the potential for a faked death and later return with a beast-baby. Anyway, I hope this idea went out with the dirty bathwater that was the midseason love triangle arc... but I remain convinced - until eternity - that there was no other need for her character other than to conceive a beast baby... period. I mean, a plot device needs a purpose, and that was the ONLY one that made any kind of sense to me. I can't even squint and see it any other way. Obviously I find this idea to be loathsome, but it is how I see it. ETA: Hindsight is 20/20, and however much I hated Catherine and Gabe - that pairing never EVER worked for me - it seemed significant in the aftermath that her rejection was a catalyst in his descent back into madness/beastdom. Tori, on the other hand, remains a superfluous enigma to me, particularly given that Vincent seemed to choose his beast side mostly on his own... Even if she was needed to "push" him in that direction, why the need for a physical relationship? There wasn't one. I personally didn't have That much issues with Tori but having a pregnant Tori would send me reeling. One I would not with Vincent or Catherine to have babies with anyone other then each other and well Tori was so smug to Cat about her so called connection to Vincent. Anyways Tori is dead, never going to happen. They are not going to bring third party people into their relationship so I have absolutely no worries about that.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 0:53:48 GMT -5
yeah I know I was surprised considering what she wrote last week lol I was quite amazed at her review and loved it too.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 0:50:24 GMT -5
Michelle michellewelling · 5h "@mskristinkreuk: @keller_Vincent that was all @jayryan" -I knew it!!! What's the story behind that "Kiddo" thing? #BatB #DejaVu Kristin KreukVerified account @mskristinkreuk michellewelling no story. Just things that come out if jay's head. #batb #dejavu
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 0:49:23 GMT -5
unbRoKen @lifeisrobsten · 5h @mskristinkreuk u and Jay are brilliant in the scene,a wonderful chemistry,this is something natural or part of a friendship of yours? Kristin Kreuk @mskristinkreuk @lifeisrobsten we are just that good! #batb #dejavu
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 0:47:14 GMT -5
Oh yea forgot. KK did also tweet this tonight
jessa christie @jhesebelderio · 4h @mskristinkreuk ep17. When Vincent was cuffing Cat on that Chair..he said it was the 4th time. We only saw 3.somethingw e don't know? Kristin Kreuk @mskristinkreuk @jhesebelderio things that happen when the audience isn't watching;) another jay Ryan add... #batb
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 0:32:59 GMT -5
anapi -season3baby :) I also love Spoilertv's recaps. They unfortunately usually only post on wednesdays but cant wait for them either.Plus Tvreplublik should start doing her recaps soon.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 0:28:22 GMT -5
even though I do think they will explore the normal couple thing somewhat and that will form part of the show of course i do think they will mostly focus on the external obstacles (external threats) cause that obviously adds to the drama and intensity. well Brad Kern made some interviews, not sure if you read them all. there is a few 3 or 4 and in them he says hes not gonna break them apart because that's not what we the audience want but he will throw hurdles at them things normal couples deal with since they haven't been able to be a normal couple. That's why we are talking about what kind of hurdles they could be. I agree with you that there will be other external threats like them working for these special agents but I also think everyday life type of things because they haven't been able to be a normal couple, they always were fighting external threats just to be together. And I completely understand now why he said that with this finale they feel like the closed a chapter to BATB. And by that I mean, for the better part of 2 seasons, Vincat we're fighting just to be able to be together and now at the end of 2. They finally accomplished their goal. He's no longer a dead man, he's no longer a criminal or on the run, they can finally go out in public together and that's also what was so satisfying about the finale. And I have to say I WAS SO RIGHT when I said the bench scenes we're gonna be the ending Anyways back to what I was saying, they have finally stopped the push/pull, should we or shouldn't we be together storyline. Now they are together and will stay together, finally free of all that came along with loving Vincent; so they will have the everyday obstacle everyday people like you and I have.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 8, 2014 0:18:12 GMT -5
you guys should read rickey's recap. Im laughing my ass off. Here's the parts I love
It isn’t that Vincent and Cat are meant to be, it’s that they’ve chosen to be. The traditional concept of destiny would mean that Vincent and Cat never had a choice but to be together, which seems romantic in theory, but actually lessens the validity of their connection. Because, really, how valid can your choice be if it’s a choice you were always going to make? However, this episode illustrates that Vincent and Cat have enough respect and love for one another as individuals to see that they’re better together than they are apart. Sure, fate might have put them in each other’s path, but they made the choice to be together, and they put in the work to make certain that nobody could ruin that connection, not even a certified psychopath like Gabe (Sendhil Ramamurthy). So while “Deja Vu” embraces the idea of “destined love,” the episode’s central thesis seems to be that there isn’t really such a thing as destiny, in the traditional sense. Destiny, in this case, is what you make for yourself. And that’s such an unmistakably powerful sentiment that I couldn’t help but be bowled over by this finale.
" In one instant, the sad, twisted story of Gabe Lowan comes to an ignominious end, killed by the woman he loved (not unlike Alistair, who was allegedly “killed” by Rebecca Reynolds. Except, from all reports, Alistair wasn’t a jealous, sociopathic ass). " HAHA
and then this one about JT
"Cat and Vincent reach the loft to discover J.T. suspended from the ceiling by his arms, and covered in blood. For a brief, unthinkable, unfathomable, miserable, gut-wrenching, stomach-churning, heart-stopping, soul-crushing, terrible, horrible, no good, very bad moment, I honestly believed the show had killed off J.T. And to be truthful, I’m not sure how I would have reacted if they had."
Then I love his input about the whole destiny thing
"Much like J.T. and Tess, Vincent and Cat are simply enjoying the afterglow of getting to be together in public, without having to hide. It’s a moment this season has been leading to, and the culmination of the big kiss, and the talk of “destined love,” feels earned. Because we know it’s not so much destiny as hard work. Any good relationship requires putting in the time, and Lord only knows, these two have put in two seasons worth. "
I also loved the conclusion part of it where he goes
Beauty and the Beast Season 2 has largely been a mixed bag, with the controversial first half of the season making Vincent into the polar opposite of his Season 1 depiction, and keeping him separated from Cat for the majority. But the latter half is as good as the show has ever been, if not better. And not just because Vincent and Cat are back together, for the most part, although that’s a huge chunk of it. No, what worked so well about the back half of Beauty and the Beast Season 2 was its dedication to serialized storytelling, allowing the ensemble to mark the changes in each character and bring those stories to life. J.T. and Tess wouldn’t be as effective a couple without Basis and Lisandrello, and Vincent and Cat wouldn’t be one of TV’s best romantic pairings if not for Ryan and Kreuk’s chemistry.. “Deja Vu” was an unmistakably satisfying finale that suggests that nothing in this show happens because it’s supposed to happen. Rather, “destiny” means it happens because our heroes have the will to make it happen.
I absolutely love his point of views about the destiny and its absolutely true, a lot of people here we're worried that the whole destiny part would make it seem less romantic less about them choosing to be together then more about them being destined and it being out of their hands. And he makes great points about it. And I whole heartedly agree.
Sorry if this post is long but I'll add the link to the review cause its worth reading.
www.rickey.org/beauty-beast-season-2-finale-recap-review-deja-vu/264332/?utm_content=buffer4de14&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
P.S. While typing this I'm listening to "latch" HAHAHAHA im so obsessed.
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Post by vincat4always on Jul 7, 2014 23:52:51 GMT -5
Dondrea @dawnzdrea · 3h Fun fact: @jayryan was actually screaming on set to intensify @mskristinkreuk performance when she sees Alistair burning alive. #dejavu yeah I saw that. Jay Ryan couldn't tweet with us tonight cuz hes on some deserted island in NZ without phone or net.
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