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Post by asalb on Jan 24, 2013 23:08:32 GMT -5
Hey Fire and Ice, I can't agree with you more. I am now extremely worried about the fate of our beloved show. They did turn Vince(nt) into a jerk, and then blamed their lack of progress on Cat. Um, hello, hospital? She was completely and utterly smitten....
I'm just going to be a broken record and keep saying I HATE THIS F'ING STORYLINE and although I'm glad the show is back, I did not like this episode. This storyline with the EX makes absolutely no sense to me. At the end of the Ep Vincent was talking about "watching her for 9 years, and knowing her pattern of going out with Bad Boys that she doesn't have to get close to or serious with." Um, hello, so how many times in those 9 years did you check in on Alex to make sure she was ok? based on they way it went, it would appear that number would be ZERO. So WTF? And I agree that Alex's character is needy and whiney. Yet within minutes of rediscovering her, you have a lip lock with her, despite being scared <edited>less, what - the previous day, that Catherine was going to die!!! Yet you've never even given Cat a peck on the goddamn cheek!
I really think that they needed to somehow ADDRESS that kiss. At least have Vincent fess up that maybe they haven't kissed b/c Cat knows about the beast and Alex doesn't so he doesn't have any fears there.... but no, they just left it hanging with no acknowledgement that it even happened!!! Um, hello, GF? At least call the MoFo out on it. Holy crap!
And so no one gets me wrong, this has nothing to do with BR - the actress is beautiful. I would feel the same way about the character regardless of who they got to play the part.
F'ing stupid show!
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Post by asalb on Jan 24, 2013 22:46:27 GMT -5
and when she takes the towel off in front of him in the promo for next week oh no she didnt!!!
Sigghh.... looks like Vince may possibly get "some" next week. good - let him beast out on her during an intimate moment - that'll eff her up for good!
I hate this effing storyline!!!!
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Post by asalb on Jan 24, 2013 22:35:22 GMT -5
I AM SO PISSED!!!!
Well, the writers did exactly what we feared they would do - they turned Vincent (or should I call him Vince?) into a typical dick - creep! He lied LIED! to Cat about Alex being his fiancee, and called her his Handler. Come on! and then had the balls to give Cat the gears at the end about why they can't move forward? That Cat is just using this as an excuse to "bail on us". Oh, let me see, I don't know, maybe b/c you've been too much of a pussy up till now to kiss her, and now you didn't want to tell your Ex Cat's your GF and then Cat saw you kissing her? Cat was soooooo far from "bailing" at the beginning of this Ep.... she dragged her injured ass out of her hospital bed to save Alex.... I say, she should have let her get popped!
A lot of viewers on Twitter were not happy with Vincent's very uncharacteristic behaviour and with this whole storyline. I'll say what we've said over and over - THIS IS F'ING BEAUTY AND THE BEAST not BATB and his Ex. We KNOW they're supposed to end up together eventually (but please, I hope the show lasts that long now!). Adding in a love triangle is not only stupid, it is self-defeating. the fans know, really KNOW that the only reason for it is to prolong the kiss. Yes, it allows Vincat to explore their feelings for one another, and eventually CHOOSE each other, but four episodes is too long for this BS!!!! they stand a good chance of shedding viewers. REally, too big of a risk to take for a show in this stage of its infancy...
So NOT looking forward to next weeks episode. Vincent - you're a dick! BATB writers - you are also a bunch of dicks for turning Vincent into one!!!
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Post by asalb on Jan 23, 2013 9:37:46 GMT -5
LMFAO!! I think its hilarious that soooo many of us share the same "affliction" over this show. Constantly checking Twitter, reading fan-fic, looking for spoilers and sneak-peeks, and serious jitters over what's going to happen tomorrow nite.... At this point I am almost embarrased to speak with my friends and colleagues about it (although I do, b/c I am always trying to recruit new Beasties b/c what starts out to be a casual conversation about "this new show I've been watching..." turns into a full-on ramble about how great the show is, and how beautiful the Beast is..... my teenage-girlie-like man-crush on Jay Ryan quickly becomes ever-so-apparent... LOL! ONE MORE DAY!!!!!! YAAAAAYYYYY!!!!! I may need a 12-step program to de-Beastify myself when the summer hiatus hits (or if the worst happens and the show doesn't get a 2nd season )
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Post by asalb on Jan 21, 2013 10:16:11 GMT -5
He's actually done it several times. Its really fun, as he'll pose Qs to the viewers, favourite tweets they send him, and respond to our tears of laughter at his A-list lines, etc, etc. Its so cool, and makes him very down to earth and approachable wrt fans. We all love the show, but in a lot of ways, I honestly believe he's helped "nurture" the growth of the fan base . Can't wait till the 24th! I'm out of the country, coming home on thursday afternoon and will be seriously pissed if something happens to delay me from getting back in time to watch the return of BATB!! Three more days - woo hoo!!
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Post by asalb on Jan 16, 2013 9:14:22 GMT -5
The whole arc with the Ex and now the "killing" stuff really bothers me, but this show IS Beauty and the Beast (not a cop show with underlying relationships, its a relationship show with cop stuff thrown in). I think that TPTB @batb would be nuts to NOT give us a few good Vincat moments in each of the episodes, regardless of how tense, dark, emotional, whatever they are. Even Basic Instinct, which I found really "dark" in comparison to the others, had a few good Vincat scenes. Unlike other CW shows from the past (and maybe the present) the entire underlying theme of the show is basically the love story between these two characters, so although TPTB @batb may throw up obstacles, I don't think we'll see the same type of nonsense with "couple switching" as we do in other series (other than short term Ex crap). I mean, why would we watch if Cat or Vincent actually got with someone else (not just thought about it or danced around it)? In the end, I think (ok, I HOPE) Vincat will always find a way to each other in EACH episonde (or maybe in the middle, and then they throw up another obstacle at the end to make us watch the following week - LOL!). Hope that makes sense.
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Post by asalb on Jan 14, 2013 17:50:50 GMT -5
OMFG!!!! Holy crap!!! Here we are stressing about the Valex stuff, and that really doesn't sound that bad in comparison to this. That has gotta be what Jay Ryan was referring to when he said something like "it gets quite dark at that point". Holy living $hit!!!
I can't imaging who he kills? Her "boyfriend du jour" maybe?
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Post by asalb on Jan 12, 2013 20:04:58 GMT -5
While I agree with all of you guys, I'm just simply too pissed off at this point to say "I'll wait and then watch with a box of tissues". I can't insert enough swear words into this to show my anger. If the writers really go down the road they appear to be on, they've quite simply ruined the show for me. The Xmas break has somewhat detached me from the show, so I'm not feeling as wrapped up in it as I have been since October (and I will sheepishly admit that I have been enthralled with it).
I think that they could have used this SL wisely, to show Vincent choosing Cat over Alex without actually acting like a dick, and going on a date with her (the promo's do say that Vincent "goes on a romantic date with Alex"). I mean, come on people, he hasn't even gone on a friggin' date with Cat!!!! This is something an A-hole does, not our Vincent!!!! If he does in fact go on a date, that's pretty much it. The spell will be completely broken for me, and the writers will have completely ruined the show for me. The magic will be gone. How can we feel magic watching him with another woman? This is not why we watch this particular show. Quite simply, its stupid. We all fell in love with that magic and their chemistry, which is why we went so crazy, voted our butts off, and gave them the PCA. I really, really hope that the SL doesn't kill the show.
Do we want VinCat to get together easily? Of course not, but there are other, more significant, obstacles they could have used that wouldn't turn Vincent into a dick. (sorry, that's the only word I have for it). I don't have the time or patience to watch something that I don't like, just to get thru it and onto the point where Alex is gone. If others watch eps 10 and 11 and don't like this, and stop watching, the show will likely die. Viewers who leave a new show are not likely to come back. So I'm hoping beyond all hope that, although we all know that Alex is in the picture, that the writers are so talented and skilled at their craft, that the SL that they've put together sorts all this BS out without ruining the character of our "hero", and that all of our rampant speculations are completely off base.
I'm crossing my fingers.....
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Post by asalb on Jan 6, 2013 17:45:31 GMT -5
Oh please, let's freakin' hope so!! My guess is that she'll be put in some sort of danger which will morally require him to hang around for those 4 episodes (this way, he doesn't look like a dick (that seems to be the word that everyone is applying to him if he suddenly goes "oh I still love Alex" so I'll stick with it) - but this will cause trouble for him and Cat. In the end hopefully she bows out gracefully, or as per other soap operish storylines, gets a "transfer" to another city and has to leave (and of course asks Vincent to come with her) but then he has to come clean and admit that he loves Cat. That would be oh so sweet .
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Post by asalb on Jan 6, 2013 17:36:22 GMT -5
Everyone seems a bit worried about the shrink, but I think that TPTB@BATB have done it to us again (i.e. made things to seem one way, yet they'll probably be another). Think about it, she was just shot by a perp.... usually (at least on other cop TV shows - LOL) they need a psyche eval before they can go back into field duty, so that's likely what the shrink is all about. Remember, Evan had tea with a nice shrink after his attack too?
Cheers!
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Post by asalb on Jan 5, 2013 15:11:21 GMT -5
so i'm also hearbroken for Catherine, what a beautiful pic though, KK is wonderful, really. This sad face seems so real... my theory is: (and i'm an optimistic person, seeing all good in people, call me naive if you want to ;D) 1/ Alex sees Vincent 2/He hides from her 3/He's going to Catherine and tells her he saw his ex, that he was engaged 4/Alex in on Muirfield radar. She does something that alert them on the fact Vincent is alive 5/Alex is kidnapped by a Muirfield agent, who tells her Vincent is actually alive but doesn't give her more information. She's very scared. 6/Vincent learns that Alex had been kidnapped. He asks Catherine for help. 7/They're looking for Alex together, big bad fight, and they found her. 8/Alex runs into Vincent's arms, blah blah blah and Catherine sees that. 9/Vincent is hugging her, and she's asking him for some explanation. 10/He goes to her apartment, lies to her about why he was hiding from everyone 11/Vincent goes to Catherine's, is honest with her. She tells him to figure all this out; he tells her how much he cares for her. That's right, because she's hurt but understands he may be confused (LOVE!) 12/Maybe they'll try to stay apart from each other, maybe. But they are honest, no lies. That's my theory Can't wait to watch this episode. January 24, where are you!!! Want a time machine soooo badly ;D I completely agree with your speculations Alix, and these are pretty much bang on in terms of what I've been thinking will happen. This woudl be one of the only ways that Vincent would seek out the Ex and not be a complete dick. A) he HAS to help her b/c he can't just let Muirfield kill her and B) Cat makes him go explain everything and work it out.... Another possibliity is that Muirfield isn't involved (but i think it woudl be really cool if they were), but Alex sees him again and chases him thru the hospital. However he evades her for a 2nd time and she literally freaks out, and he just can't handle her desperation (ie the pic of her banging on a door or something that is separating her from Vincent), and so he shows himself, and she hugs him in utter relief (and he her) which might explain the first pic....doesn't explain the gun, etc, but all that may not be related to the Alex stuff.... Anyhow, I love everyone's speculations! Fire and Ice (aka Jacki, I think) you're pretty spot on about our insanity over this show and willingness to believe stuff that really is over the top was priceless!! I am once again looking forward to the 24th - but still am a little cooler in my obsession of this show. Just a teeny, tiny, bit.... ok, maybe not since I too keep trying to figure out WTH is going to happen and what the #$&%^ writers/producers are going to do to us next
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Post by asalb on Jan 3, 2013 18:19:46 GMT -5
I too have calmed down a bit, but still HATE this S/L. I have to agree about the love triangle thing - for those who are shipping on Valex - go frickin' watch Dallas or another sordid show where everyone f's their brothers girlfriends, etc, etc. Epic fairly tale loves (even with grown up ones with a few twists and turns) are NOT cemented with love triangles. We're all reading A LOT into that picture, and I'm holding out hope that the writers/producers are effing with us and that all of our speculations are completely wrong. That being said, however, the couple in that pic did not look like they were merely relieved to see each other. They looked like the other was the very air they needed to survive. And the man in that pic most definitely had a hard on for his ex. But that's NOT what we expect of our Vincent!! Based on the producers comments, I don't think they expected that much chemistry. Knowing that however, they should not have released that picture!! I also thought I read somewhere (a while back) that Vincent would need to explore the reasons for why the broke up... for some reason I though he'd broken it off with her BEFORE he went to war... so if that's the case, maybe it won't be as bad as we all think. I'm hoping that Vincent had no intention of going to see her, but somehow Cat finds out about her (ie. Vinnie tells her that she spotted him, and that she thinks he's dead) and MAKES him go and see her - to at least let her know that he's not dead (relieve pain and suffering, etc). That's something that Cat just might do. Just that when he does see her, he realizes that maybe there wasn't the closure for him either.... I could accept that. But NOT kisses on multiple occasions and definitely NOT mouth sex between them. Maybe after the first reunion she'll persue him - which is what I think we all expected when we first heard of an Ex (see they keep calling her that - so they must have broken up) lurking. The episode description also mentions that JT gets a surprising visitor - so maybe she goes to see JT after she thinks she sees Vincent, he listens in about how she'll always love him blah blah, and it just progresses from there.....he goes and finds her, etc... Anyhow, its been entertaining (and comforting) to read all of your posts and know that I'm not the only one that is this well and truly obsessed with BATB. ;D
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Post by asalb on Jan 2, 2013 21:45:49 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly Fire and Ice!! Unless we get a decent sneak peek soon that clears up that photo I think I'll be way less obsessed with this show till it airs on Jan 24th, and we see what's what. While some people (die hard Bridget Regan fans) are shipping Valex (or whatever the hell you want to call it), by and large, most are well and truly PO'd at the implications of that picture. Are we sure they kissed? Nope, but their expressions look pretty hot and heavy.... and way more in love than Vincat have EVER looked. That's dangerous for this show. Hopefully it is NOT what we all think, and the writers will go "ooops" and clear it up with a cool clip. However, if Vincent turns out to be a true cad to Cat over his Ex, viewers WILL lose interest. Fans of this show (bascially romantics, at heart - since this is essentially a modernized romance novel on TV) are unlikely to enjoy watching their Hero cheating on the Heroine (which would make him a typical guy Creep). So once again, let hope (please please please) that the sneaky #$#%* writers have misconstrued the situation and that Vincent remains our untarnished Hero. Hmm.... I think I'll go read a good book now and stop thinking about this crap
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Post by asalb on Jan 2, 2013 18:29:15 GMT -5
I'll start off by saying that I have been obsessed with this show for the past 3ish months and that I am an addict, and love it. However, this storyline actually really pisses me off. I hope that the writers are just wanting to generate interest and excitement, and that that is a goodbye kiss (but it looks a bit too sweet to be GB). But showing us all that picture in the sweet embrace at this point in the Vincat story was probably a bit of a miscalculation on their part. Twitter exploded with ANGER at the pic. Other than their dance, Vincent has basically not even TOUCHED Cat, and they show us that embrace? I'm not interested in seeing Vincent Kanoodling with his ex, or watching the "man torn between loving two women" storyline. And why not? Because that is a BETRAYAL to Cat, plain and simple. I think we all expected that the fiancee would be the one trying to get back into Vincent's life, not the other way round. And Cat is a strong, but F'd up woman, who wouldn't play the victim by waiting around for her guy to make up his mind - a strong woman has no tolerance for that BS and would stick up her middle finger at him and say "see ya". Remember the first scene with her "date"? She doesn't take any crap from men. So that better have been a "goodbye, I'm off to war...." kiss or "goodbye, I'll always love you, but I love someone else more now." kiss!!! But I don't think that's the case - I think there'll be some serious kissing between the two (based on comments made by both Jay Ryan and Kristin Kreuk).
So everyone (i.e. BATB writers, etc) can say "chill", its BATB, and Vincat will prevail - yes, of course they will - they'll eventually kiss, and it will be an "oh, finally" moment, b/c they've realized their feelings are oh so deep and true (excuse me while i puke! I'm still really PO'd and in rant mode) but if Vinnie starts sniffing after Alex's skirts, the magic and romance that this show has generated will evaporate into Soap Opera trash, and the fans might just lose interest. That would be a death sentence for a fledgling show like this. So hopefully we're all overreacting, b/c if Vincent starts being all "oh, I still love Alex..." poof! He turns into a frog. And if that happens it would be really, really tough for the writers to find the magic to turn him back into a prince again.
So BATB writers - stop F'ing the fans around, b/c if the show loses its magic and we tire of this BS we will stop watching!!!!
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Post by asalb on Jan 2, 2013 17:36:38 GMT -5
I'll start off by saying that I have been obsessed with this show for the past 3ish months and that I am an addict, and love it. However, this storyline actually really pisses me off. I hope that the writers are just wanting to generate interest and excitement, and that that is a goodbye kiss (but it looks a bit too sweet to be GB). But showing us all that picture in the sweet embrace at this point in the Vincat story was probably a bit of a miscalculation on their part. Twitter exploded with ANGER at the pic. Other than their dance, Vincent has basically not even TOUCHED Cat, and they show us that embrace? I'm not interested in seeing Vincent Kanoodling with his ex, or watching the "man torn between loving two women" storyline. And why not? Because that is a BETRAYAL to Cat, plain and simple. And Cat is a strong, but F'd up woman, who wouldn't play the victim by waiting around for her guy to make up his mind - a strong woman has no tolerance for that BS and would stick up her middle finger at him and say "see ya".
So everyone can say "chill", its BATB, and Vincat will prevail - yes, of course they will - they'll eventually kiss, and it will be an "oh, finally" moment, but if Vinnie starts sniffing after Alex's skirts, the magic and romance that this show has generated will evaporate into Soap Opera trash, and the fans might just lose interest. That would be a death sentence for a fledgling show like this. So hopefully we're all overreacting, b/c if Vincent starts being all "oh, I still love Alex..." poof! He turns into a frog.
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