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Post by raniamahd on Oct 8, 2014 15:47:26 GMT -5
Her rushing things with Gabe.was wrong But what would be 1000000x more wrong is if she pursued Vincent just after his girlfriend that he Slept and had relationship with just Died. Should any woman have some Self Respect? And Why would Tess has to pimp Vincent to Cat just cause he saved her,at the beginning of this episode the guy still had a Girlfriend!!!! It's bad enough Cat was turned into 24/7 love slave for Vincent, she also had to wait on Sideroad everytime he fooled around with another chick and supposed to just accept him back the second he's done with sleeping around w the other chick? Wow that some female empowerment right there. #HeforShe sex slave for Vincent really?? Who jumped his bone to try to see if he would get his memory back? She did! That doesn't sound like a sex slave to me Catherine does what Catherine wants ...He <edited>s the <edited> out of her cause 'she wants it' NOT cause she's his sex slave. wow you are really scary when someone pissed you off lol , just kidding dear but in his defense he said (love slave ) not ( sex slave ) and we both are grown up women and know there is a big difference between them ! but you are right that Cat does only what she wants ! she even did hurt Vincent sometime in the process ! not on purpose but because she is so stubborn , always insists to do things her way no matter the consequences and simply wants what she wants ! even with Gabe who manipulated her like a puppet toy , she is the one who allowed him to do that because she wanted to ? not out of love of course but because she was in denial and needed to use him as a wall between her and her heart ! damn the woman is even stubborn with her own heart and feeling ! that is what Catherine's nature is ! and her love for Vincent has nothing to do with this !
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 8, 2014 16:18:57 GMT -5
sex slave for Vincent really?? Who jumped his bone to try to see if he would get his memory back? She did! That doesn't sound like a sex slave to me Catherine does what Catherine wants ...He <edited>s the <edited> out of her cause 'she wants it' NOT cause she's his sex slave. wow you are really scary when someone pissed you off lol , just kidding dear but in his defense he said (love slave ) not ( sex slave ) and we both are grown up women and know there is a big difference between them ! but you are right that Cat does only what she wants ! she even did hurt Vincent sometime in the process ! not on purpose but because she is so stubborn , always insists to do things her way no matter the consequences and simply wants what she wants ! even with Gabe who manipulated her like a puppet toy , she is the one who allowed him to do that because she wanted to ? not out of love of course but because she was in denial and needed to use him as a wall between her and her heart ! damn the woman is even stubborn with her own heart and feeling ! that is what Catherine's nature is ! and her love for Vincent has nothing to do with this ! Correct about the love and not sex slave cause to be honest just because a woman is in love doesn't mean she's a slave to it...in BOTH cases. CATHERINE is a 29 year old who's been in relationships that have been less then desirable but again it's her choosing ..the idea that because she is in love with Vincent makes her his slave is ridiculous. .Now if you tell me she was blinded ...stubborn In her decisions because of the person she is that's fine but that mumbo jumbo of love slave ..Give me a break
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 8, 2014 16:28:48 GMT -5
sex slave for Vincent really?? Who jumped his bone to try to see if he would get his memory back? She did! That doesn't sound like a sex slave to me Catherine does what Catherine wants ...He <edited>s the <edited> out of her cause 'she wants it' NOT cause she's his sex slave. wow you are really scary when someone pissed you off lol , just kidding dear OH you don't know the half of it LOL..I might be a kitten but when provoked I become a viscous tiger LOL But I'm rarely that way...good thing for my family LOL
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Post by raniamahd on Oct 8, 2014 17:06:34 GMT -5
wow you are really scary when someone pissed you off lol , just kidding dear but in his defense he said (love slave ) not ( sex slave ) and we both are grown up women and know there is a big difference between them ! but you are right that Cat does only what she wants ! she even did hurt Vincent sometime in the process ! not on purpose but because she is so stubborn , always insists to do things her way no matter the consequences and simply wants what she wants ! even with Gabe who manipulated her like a puppet toy , she is the one who allowed him to do that because she wanted to ? not out of love of course but because she was in denial and needed to use him as a wall between her and her heart ! damn the woman is even stubborn with her own heart and feeling ! that is what Catherine's nature is ! and her love for Vincent has nothing to do with this ! Correct about the love and not sex slave cause to be honest just because a woman is in love doesn't mean she's a slave to it...in BOTH cases. CATHERINE is a 29 year old who's been in relationships that have been less then desirable but again it's her choosing ..the idea that because she is in love with Vincent makes her his slave is ridiculous. .Now if you tell me she was blinded ... stubborn In her decisions because of the person she is that's fine but that mumbo jumbo of love slave ..Give me a break totally agree ! in Cat's case all she did/does and will do is because the person she is ! and Vincent never asked or wants to change her ! look to what she did in ep 2/20 and he didn't get upset or blame her , no he totally accepted it because that who she is and what made him fall in love with her in the first place ! i get tired too by some people repeating she is a love slave because she sacrificed a lot for Vincent ?!! like he never did the same for her or like he won't risk his life for her anytime no matter what without hesitation ?! --- but that also not the major point here imo ? the major one is Cat always does that by her own free will , no one specially Vincent forced her ! how many time V refuse her sacrifices , saying its too much to ask or even more try to push her away to protect her ? and what was always her answer ? Thats why i said in my reply to Dan's post that i disagree and never saw that , but i know for fact that everybody sees only what he/she wants to see , there is no use from argue here because we will never come to some agreement , so i want to focus instead on the things we could discuss with open mind ! good for your family , me too would fight anyone who mess up with my family with my teeth and nails like a real monster !
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Post by BeastieBoy on Oct 8, 2014 18:31:57 GMT -5
wow you are really scary when someone pissed you off lol , just kidding dear but in his defense he said (love slave ) not ( sex slave ) and we both are grown up women and know there is a big difference between them ! but you are right that Cat does only what she wants ! she even did hurt Vincent sometime in the process ! not on purpose but because she is so stubborn , always insists to do things her way no matter the consequences and simply wants what she wants ! even with Gabe who manipulated her like a puppet toy , she is the one who allowed him to do that because she wanted to ? not out of love of course but because she was in denial and needed to use him as a wall between her and her heart ! damn the woman is even stubborn with her own heart and feeling ! that is what Catherine's nature is ! and her love for Vincent has nothing to do with this ! Correct about the love and not sex slave cause to be honest just because a woman is in love doesn't mean she's a slave to it...in BOTH cases. CATHERINE is a 29 year old who's been in relationships that have been less then desirable but again it's her choosing ..the idea that because she is in love with Vincent makes her his slave is ridiculous. .Now if you tell me she was blinded ...stubborn In her decisions because of the person she is that's fine but that mumbo jumbo of love slave ..Give me a break Changing topics, I've often wondered about Catherine's age. By my calculation, I think Catherine is a 28 year old during most of Season 2 and will be 29 during Season 3. In S2's "Reunion" she attends her Class of 2003 ten year high school reunion. Hence I assume in the "Pilot", when her mother is killed, it's her freshman Fall semester at Princeton. From "Saturn Returns", her birthday is sometime during the Fall, maybe early November if we go by the show's air date. That would mean she celebrated her 27th birthday during Saturn Returns on Season 1.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 8, 2014 19:18:47 GMT -5
Actually in Saturn Returns she turned 29 so in season 2 that would make her 30 ..Good age to get engaged yeah?
I remember cause in bridesmaid up she tells Vincent here i a almost 30 LOL
The things I remember.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Oct 8, 2014 19:25:09 GMT -5
Actually in Saturn Returns she turned 29 so in season 2 that would make her 30 ..Good age to get engaged yeah? I remember cause in bridesmaid up she tells Vincent here i a almost 30 LOL The things I remember. I recall her saying she's almost 30, but that doesn't really confirm her actual age. I don't recall them ever saying her actual age in Saturn Returns. Do they say she's 29 in that episode? I didn't think so. But the math doesn't add up. She's from the Class of 2003, she can't be that old. She wouldn't have been held back a grade, since she's really smart and got into Princeton.
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Post by jefferen on Oct 8, 2014 19:51:36 GMT -5
Actually in Saturn Returns she turned 29 so in season 2 that would make her 30 ..Good age to get engaged yeah? I remember cause in bridesmaid up she tells Vincent here i a almost 30 LOL The things I remember. I recall her saying she's almost 30, but that doesn't really confirm her actual age. I don't recall them ever saying her actual age in Saturn Returns. Do they say she's 29 in that episode? I didn't think so. But the math doesn't add up. She's from the Class of 2003, she can't be that old. She wouldn't have been held back a grade, since she's really smart and got into Princeton. Maybe she did pre-k?
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Post by BeastieBoy on Oct 8, 2014 20:07:27 GMT -5
I recall her saying she's almost 30, but that doesn't really confirm her actual age. I don't recall them ever saying her actual age in Saturn Returns. Do they say she's 29 in that episode? I didn't think so. But the math doesn't add up. She's from the Class of 2003, she can't be that old. She wouldn't have been held back a grade, since she's really smart and got into Princeton. Maybe she did pre-k? If she did pre-k, meaning she got a head start, that would make her even younger, since she would have graduated at an earlier age - right? By my simple math, if she's the class of 2003, that means she turned 18 sometime in 2003, most likely in autumn according to the time of Saturn Returns. Hence she turned 28 in 2013.
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Post by raniamahd on Oct 8, 2014 20:48:37 GMT -5
i think no one of the show writers or the show makers in general pay much attention to those details ?! Cat's age who in 2003 was already started college , meaning she is over 18 then maybe 29 in her birthday to be almost 30 in her dad's wedding at 2012 ? but with some miracle she is 28 in 2013 lol ! also Vincent 's age ? who was a resident doctor in 2001 ? which means he has to be about 36 in 2013 ? which make you wonder about the age difference between them which by looking at them does not appear to be a big number ( it looks like as its in reality just one year ) ?! -- and more what is the age difference between him and Tori who was supposed to be in her early twenty ?! too bad the fans pay more attention than them because i guess we would never know for sure about all those details ! lets just say that vincat would always be young in their hearts and some time teenagers or even children in their minds and behaviors lol
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Post by jefferen on Oct 8, 2014 21:00:21 GMT -5
i think no one of the show writers or the show makers in general pay much attention to those details ?! Cat's age who in 2003 was already started college , meaning she is over 18 then maybe 29 in her birthday to be almost 30 in her dad's wedding at 2012 ? but with some miracle she is 28 in 2013 lol ! also Vincent 's age ? who was a resident doctor in 2001 ? which means he has to be about 36 in 2013 ? which make you wonder about the age difference between them which by looking at them does not appear to be a big number ( it looks like as its in reality just one year ) ?! -- and more what is the age difference between him and Tori who was supposed to be in her early twenty ?! too bad the fans pay more attention than them because i guess we would never know for sure about all those details ! lets just say that vincat would always be young in their hearts and some time teenagers or even children in their minds and behaviors lol The ages of our leads have always been a mystery since day 1. LOL
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Post by BeastieBoy on Oct 8, 2014 21:01:29 GMT -5
LOL. Well one thing I do know for sure is Tess said she turned 30 in Held Hostage. We'll see if the writers mess that up in S3 and she becomes younger or older.
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Post by jefferen on Oct 8, 2014 21:37:08 GMT -5
LOL. Well one thing I do know for sure is Tess said she turned 30 in Held Hostage. We'll see if the writers mess that up in S3 and she becomes younger or older. Watch they will surprise us all and say its her 35th birthday next season. lol. And JT is he supposed to be the same age as V?
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Post by Lisa on Oct 9, 2014 10:09:30 GMT -5
When she said "almost 30" I was assuming she could be anywhere from 27-29 at that time.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Oct 16, 2014 16:17:34 GMT -5
The original press clips for Season 1 said that Catherine was 19 years old when her mother was gunned down in front of her and Vincent saved her. That means she was 19 years old at some point in 2003. So Catherine would be 29 in 2013 and turn age 30 sometime in 2014. I agree that having her 10 year reunion in 2013 should make her 28 because you are almost always 18 years old when you graduate. HOWEVER, at least in America, there is usually a cut-off date if the child is born late in the year. And parents are given a choice if they want to hold their child back if the child would be the youngest in the class. So maybe Catherine was born so late in the year that the Chandlers held her back to start school as the oldest in her class, making her 19 by the time of 2003 when she was in her first year of college.
I agree that the showrunners kind of fudge the whole age thing for the cast members. We never knew what Tori's age was. Which was a good thing if it turned out that she was only about 21 to 24 years old. She certainly acted young and spoiled. And in America, it takes 4 years of college and then 7 years of med school to become a doctor. And that is if Vincent went straight through without taking any time off. And we already know that Vincent took SOME kind of break (could have been a summer break) to explore firefighting like his brothers since William told him that he was "going back to medical school" in the flashback memory in "Hothead." Meaning that Vincent in 2001 could have been about 29 years old or even older! So that would make Vincent around 41 years old in 2013! The showrunners just have never told us how old Vincent is. It is almost unheard of for people to become doctors in the US any earlier, but Vincent could have been some brilliant prodigy that graduated from high school and college early. (Otherwise, depending on how young Tori was, Vincent could have been dating someone half his age!)
Vincent being in or around age 40-something IS supported, at least a little, by his comment to Tess in "Held Hostage." He tells Tess that "the thirties are better than the twenties, at least for some people" which I took to mean that Vincent's 30's were spent on the run and in hiding from Muirfield. Which would make sense if he was somewhere close to 30 when the army experimented on him.
I don't think they will ever clarify the age thing. At least with Catherine, we do know that she was supposed to be 19 at some point in 2003. Beyond that, who knows?
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