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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 28, 2014 17:30:31 GMT -5
did u watch the second sneak peak? cause that helps understand her behaviour/lack of reaction, awkwardness OMG. There's a second one!?! Where?! did u find it? i think link posted in this thread somehwere
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 28, 2014 17:32:01 GMT -5
Watching the 2nd sneak peek makes me understand why Catherine was just standing there saying anything. So her silence has nothing to do with Gabe but what Vincent did earlier. Vincent was about to loose control once again! Okay, Sam provoked him but still, this is not a reason. I don't get if he just wants to scare Sam or really had the intention to kill him. And what if JT was not there and Catherine and Gabe didn't show up in time? Okay, I'm not sure I liked what I saw. yeah i get why she did not react but i also get vincent's reaction. i dont think vincent would kill sam if jt was not there, he just got angry, sam really DID hit a nerve. so no issue with his reaction
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 28, 2014 17:37:25 GMT -5
I am able to view both clips and I will say the same thing..Catherine is acting like Vincent was in Man Or Beast..She isn't thinking properly for sure and it's affecting the way she's seeing things. Doesn't help that Vincent made the mistake of getting angry. Gabe of course kept pushing...I think Gabe is in a desperate situation cause he knows Catherine is faltering .
These sneaks makes me want SUNDAY to come quicker! This is getting interesting!
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Post by Naná on Feb 28, 2014 17:37:36 GMT -5
omg, I was desperate to get home and see the videos!! yuhuuuuu!!! let´s go!
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Post by jennieheartsbatb on Feb 28, 2014 17:41:51 GMT -5
OMG. There's a second one!?! Where?! did u find it? i think link posted in this thread somehwere YES I DID! I personally think there's a reason they released these two snippets of the episode as a sneak peek. I feel like there's something else going on... I don't know what, but those side looks looked like something else had happened that neither Gabe or JT knows.
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Post by ForgetMeNot => S3 4BATBeasties on Feb 28, 2014 17:42:31 GMT -5
Watching the 2nd sneak peek makes me understand why Catherine was just standing there saying anything. So her silence has nothing to do with Gabe but what Vincent did earlier. Vincent was about to loose control once again! Okay, Sam provoked him but still, this is not a reason. I don't get if he just wants to scare Sam or really had the intention to kill him. And what if JT was not there and Catherine and Gabe didn't show up in time? Okay, I'm not sure I liked what I saw. yeah i get why she did not react but i also get vincent's reaction. i dont think vincent would kill sam if jt was not there, he just got angry, sam really DID hit a nerve. so no issue with his reaction Hopefully. After all the efforts he did, that would be a shame to get back there and I don't think that it is the writers' intention either, you must be right. His reaction shows that he still feels guilty about Tori's death.
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Post by curly on Feb 28, 2014 17:48:52 GMT -5
Watching the 2nd sneak peek makes me understand why Catherine was just standing there saying anything. So her silence has nothing to do with Gabe but what Vincent did earlier. Vincent was about to loose control once again! Okay, Sam provoked him but still, this is not a reason. I don't get if he just wants to scare Sam or really had the intention to kill him. And what if JT was not there and Catherine and Gabe didn't show up in time? Okay, I'm not sure I liked what I saw. The problem is that they have no problem using Vincent when it is good for them regardless of if it is natural and I am pretty sure that season 1 Cat used Vincent's beasting out to her and her case advantage on multiple occasions and now they feign surprise when he grabs someone who is a criminal/ psycho murderer etc adnn who happens to be trying to use him etc...since when do they get to decide and I am pretty sure that Vincent saved both of their asses from Sam at that lodge. How quickly they forget. Cat payed and begged for him to show up when those bad guys had Tess at the precinct. I really think the wishwashy attitudes from the people that should know better is getting in the way of good story telling. The characters and the writers get to make the beast whatever they want how they want him and its serves little to enhance the human Vincent as a character. I don't get it. It's all kind of sloppy.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 28, 2014 17:49:16 GMT -5
I am able to view both clips and I will say the same thing..Catherine is acting like Vincent was in Man Or Beast..She isn't thinking properly for sure and it's affecting the way she's seeing things. Doesn't help that Vincent made the mistake of getting angry. Gabe of course kept pushing...I think Gabe is in a desperate situation cause he knows Catherine is faltering . These sneaks makes me want SUNDAY to come quicker! This is getting interesting! 50 and a half hours lol
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Post by curly on Feb 28, 2014 17:56:19 GMT -5
I am able to view both clips and I will say the same thing..Catherine is acting like Vincent was in Man Or Beast..She isn't thinking properly for sure and it's affecting the way she's seeing things. Doesn't help that Vincent made the mistake of getting angry. Gabe of course kept pushing...I think Gabe is in a desperate situation cause he knows Catherine is faltering . These sneaks makes me want SUNDAY to come quicker! This is getting interesting! Again I just don't get why we should care about how Gabe feels. It's getting kind of lame. At this point what power does he have. If the writers are holding their cards on him close to their chest they better start giving a nod and a wink somewhere soon because even I who believes he has a greater purpose even I am starting to get annoyed by his constance involvement in all things beast. Seriously who does the guy think he is and yet all this power is yielded. to him for some reason. I could karate chop the guy in 2. I think as a character he is overstaying his welcome especially considering his influence on Cat and matters that he removed himself from supposedly and thankful for 2nd chance and because he thought it was time. Its enough already for me.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 28, 2014 17:58:32 GMT -5
I am able to view both clips and I will say the same thing..Catherine is acting like Vincent was in Man Or Beast..She isn't thinking properly for sure and it's affecting the way she's seeing things. Doesn't help that Vincent made the mistake of getting angry. Gabe of course kept pushing...I think Gabe is in a desperate situation cause he knows Catherine is faltering . These sneaks makes me want SUNDAY to come quicker! This is getting interesting! Again I just don't get why we should care about how Gabe feels. It's getting kind of lame. At this point what power does he have. If the writers are holding their cards on him close to their chest they better start giving a nod and a wink somewhere soon because even I who believes he has a greater purpose even I am starting to get annoyed by his constance involvement in all things beast. Seriously who does the guy think he is and yet all this power is yielded. to him for some reason. I could karate chop the guy in 2. I think as a character he is overstaying his welcome especially considering his influence on Cat and matters that he removed himself from supposedly and thankful for 2nd chance and because he thought it was time. Its enough already for me. I personally don't think she cares what Gabe thinks or feels..I think it has to do with her inner 'turmoil' as to what she believes is the reason why she gave up on Vincent in the first place and the fear of her father that things will get worse for Vincent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 17:59:04 GMT -5
Just could not help myself. Close up of VinCat hug. dying lol, the emotions in this hug... They both look devastated, Vincent more than Catherine. I'm guessing he is pained that he took yet another life and Catherind is consoling him. Remember that Vincent doesn't see beasts as 'just' beasts first. He sees the person beneath first
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Post by curly on Feb 28, 2014 18:31:47 GMT -5
Again I just don't get why we should care about how Gabe feels. It's getting kind of lame. At this point what power does he have. If the writers are holding their cards on him close to their chest they better start giving a nod and a wink somewhere soon because even I who believes he has a greater purpose even I am starting to get annoyed by his constance involvement in all things beast. Seriously who does the guy think he is and yet all this power is yielded. to him for some reason. I could karate chop the guy in 2. I think as a character he is overstaying his welcome especially considering his influence on Cat and matters that he removed himself from supposedly and thankful for 2nd chance and because he thought it was time. Its enough already for me. I personally don't think she cares what Gabe thinks or feels..I think it has to do with her inner 'turmoil' as to what she believes is the reason why she gave up on Vincent in the first place and the fear of her father that things will get worse for Vincent. Yolie I get what you are saying and in many ways I agree on the character point a views. But again here we have another episode that looks like it is gobbled up by Gabe interactions and Im just wondering from a viewers point of view why we should care. Who care's what he thinks. THe potential beast coming from his orphanage is obviously a way to keep him around. If we are suppose to worry about the Daddy than I would like to see him on my screen, if he has information than I would like to see it get passed on, if Gabe has alteria motives than lets drop a hint. (I actually have a theory about him but I digress) Again my biggest complaint this season is that the story is just not moving anywhere and this is further proof but I guess that we should be thankful for yet another short lived pointless beast encounter and slaying which has obviously taken over the procedural. How many episode of teasing of who Sam is going after before something. It just feels like we are constantly settling for less when it comes to the storyline and it is only working to the shows detriment and character development. IMO. Show something already. I mean doesn't Cat as a detective have any follow up questions for her Daddy. I get leaving the guessing factor foor viewers but if he really wants to keep her safe than spill something especially if we are suppose to know more than the characters. That device hasn't been used effectively either. Sorry a carcas wearing a gem is not cutting it for me. Anyway, thats my rant. I'm sure there is other stuff going on and I will wait and see but a little red meat would be nice, not read hair.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 28, 2014 18:35:51 GMT -5
I personally don't think she cares what Gabe thinks or feels..I think it has to do with her inner 'turmoil' as to what she believes is the reason why she gave up on Vincent in the first place and the fear of her father that things will get worse for Vincent. Yolie I get what you are saying and in many ways I agree on the character point a views. But again here we have another episode that looks like it is gobbled up by Gabe interactions and Im just wondering from a viewers point of view why we should care. Who care's what he thinks. THe potential beast coming from his orphanage is obviously a way to keep him around. If we are suppose to worry about the Daddy than I would like to see him on my screen, if he has information than I would like to see it get passed on, if Gabe has alteria motives than lets drop a hint. (I actually have a theory about him but I digress) Again my biggest complaint this season is that the story is just not moving anywhere and this is further proof but I guess that we should be thankful for yet another short lived pointless beast encounter and slaying which has obviously taken over the procedural. How many episode of teasing of who Sam is going after before something. It just feels like we are constantly settling for less when it comes to the storyline and it is only working to the shows detriment and character development. IMO. Show something already. I mean doesn't Cat as a detective have any follow up questions for her Daddy. I get leaving the guessing factor foor viewers but if he really wants to keep her safe than spill something especially if we are suppose to know more than the characters. That device hasn't been used effectively either. Sorry a carcas wearing a gem is not cutting it for me. Anyway, thats my rant. I'm sure there is other stuff going on and I will wait and see but a little red meat would be nice, not read hair. Curly, I agree on the pace of the storytelling.. Starting with the Tori Arc...Her story could have been told in an arc like Alex, maybe even one more but no more. I know we are going at turtle pace and not ,,It's frustrating. I'm hoping they pick up the pace before the 22 episodes of this season. If it's it for the show..We need closure and at this pace I don't see it
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Post by Naná on Feb 28, 2014 18:36:05 GMT -5
:shockedsmiley:well...yes, yes, yes and yes yes, Vincent reacted because he was provoked, feels guilty, and.......Cat saw his beast side again. poor Vincent yes, Cat has no reaction and understand, I think, she has over her feelings for Vincent, the story that her father told her, and consequently fear again that Vincent is getting worse. yes, I like the villain Sam yes, Gabe continuous throwing salt in the wound but also, this is a part of a chapter, and I hope it will end well for VINCat I can not wait!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 28, 2014 18:54:48 GMT -5
Yolie I get what you are saying and in many ways I agree on the character point a views. But again here we have another episode that looks like it is gobbled up by Gabe interactions and Im just wondering from a viewers point of view why we should care. Who care's what he thinks. THe potential beast coming from his orphanage is obviously a way to keep him around. If we are suppose to worry about the Daddy than I would like to see him on my screen, if he has information than I would like to see it get passed on, if Gabe has alteria motives than lets drop a hint. (I actually have a theory about him but I digress) Again my biggest complaint this season is that the story is just not moving anywhere and this is further proof but I guess that we should be thankful for yet another short lived pointless beast encounter and slaying which has obviously taken over the procedural. How many episode of teasing of who Sam is going after before something. It just feels like we are constantly settling for less when it comes to the storyline and it is only working to the shows detriment and character development. IMO. Show something already. I mean doesn't Cat as a detective have any follow up questions for her Daddy. I get leaving the guessing factor foor viewers but if he really wants to keep her safe than spill something especially if we are suppose to know more than the characters. That device hasn't been used effectively either. Sorry a carcas wearing a gem is not cutting it for me. Anyway, thats my rant. I'm sure there is other stuff going on and I will wait and see but a little red meat would be nice, not read hair. Curly, I agree on the pace of the storytelling.. Starting with the Tori Arc...Her story could have been told in an arc like Alex, maybe even one more but no more. I know we are going at turtle pace and not ,,It's frustrating. I'm hoping they pick up the pace before the 22 episodes of this season. If it's it for the show..We need closure and at this pace I don't see it I'm sorry but not one of these stupid two bit sex triangles needed to happen for them to tell this story... And not a single one of these story arcs should have wasted so much time in the grander scheme of the season. Wasted time is wasted time that we can never get back. This is the story they are telling which will go down in the annals of the S2 history of BATB. There will likely never be a chance to get this wasted time back. It's ridiculous. From a viewer who doesn't care anymore point of view - we shouldn't care. They wasted the better part of the second season on story arcs that many of us couldn't care less about. The whole thing leaves a sour taste in my mouth. There is NOTHING to rewatch, which to me is the mark of a show I love vs one that I just watch. BATB has been reduced to this in my view. Obviously someone on the creative team thinks that Gabe has truly been redeemed and that somehow this shallow as TVD love triangle is somehow interesting to us. The worst part is that Catherine is a weaker character in all of this. Anyway, I'm just venting and SO disappointed. The Gabe thing should have been WAY over by now, or never should have happened to begin with. It was cringe-worthy and -worthy all the way through, which is NOT the mark of a good love triangle I might add. The viewer should feel conflicted and some part of us should understand where it comes from. Personally I can't and I don't, so EPIC FAIL. But for me the entirety (almost) of S2 has been an epic fail and major fudge up. You can't get this time back and likely we won't have a S3 so they wasted half of their two seasons on so called "character growth" and "finding themselves" as individuals doing nothing more than bed hopping. It hasn't been rewarding to watch, it has been mostly cringeworthy and has reduced a great show to a teenage level melodrama. Catherine for her part would have shown more character growth and "finding herself" as an individual if she had made the right decision to begin with and voiced the fact that if GABE can change, so can Vincent, and we would not have wasted all this time on a pointless sex-triangle. She could have politely declined Gabe's proposal to be together, and all would have been right in the universe. Why does everyone have to sleep with everyone who offers themselves? So far we are 2 for 2 and I, for one, and sick of it. Just because it is offered, doesn't mean it is a good idea, and rebounding from one relationship to another shows a co-dependent and weak individual, not someone who is doing any sort of self-discovery or growth. Personally I am offended on all fronts that this is their idea of how epic love gets there. Just my personal opinion.
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