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Post by Beastly Beauty on Jan 5, 2014 17:38:53 GMT -5
So now that they have reached their lowest point at the end of Man or Beast, I'm looking forward to seeing how they will heal separately and find their way back to each other. I don't even consider any of the Gabe or Tori BS, because to me it is irrelevant to what Vincent and Catherine need to do in order to get back to who they are. I have to disagree here. With Catherine just about ready to board "Gabe's boat" and Vincent under the she-beast's influence - and doing nothing to get out of her spell - while possibly being shot again while still recovering, how is that they reached their lowest point? With Kern affirming that VinCat will be Mr and Mrs Smith - that tried to kill each other most part of the movie - and will be in opposite sides with she-beast still attached to Vincent's hip, how is that their lowest point? I think their point is even lower than that and I really think a 4 episodes arc won't be able to fix it and that the light at the end of the tunnel - if it really exists - is still miles and miles away from where they are. |
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 5, 2014 17:43:58 GMT -5
I am not not trying to convince anyone at all - really not interested in convincing people. Each one of us have their own thoughts and opinions. I am just expressing my thoughts and feelings. I love this forum because it is respectful to peoples opinions and because I can express how I feel. Exactly. It makes no sense that others can express disappointment or dislike about something (which is 100% fair) but yet when there is a differing point of view, it is treated with rudeness and some contempt. Isn't a forum a place to express ALL views, regardless if we agree or not? this specific post was extremely rude and as i said for no reason, especially since I was not trying to "convert" people to like the show. I was merely expressing my views on the show! it was also extremely rude because it challenged and questioned my feelings about the show. The person was implying that really I do not like the show but I am trying to convince myself that I do. And that links to another post of mine of yesterday which said: "what i dont necessarily appreciate is overgeneralised comments, I find these a bit disrespectful For example: "I love the show, it is great" is different from "All beasties love the show it is amazing and if you don't shame on you" similarly "I really dont enjoy the show this season" is different from "All fans hate the show, admit it guys" or "the writers or kern have completely ruined the show, everyone thinks that". These are the type of generalised comments that tick me off a bit" |
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Post by kiki09 on Jan 5, 2014 17:49:29 GMT -5
So now that they have reached their lowest point at the end of Man or Beast, I'm looking forward to seeing how they will heal separately and find their way back to each other. I don't even consider any of the Gabe or Tori BS, because to me it is irrelevant to what Vincent and Catherine need to do in order to get back to who they are. I have to disagree here. With Catherine just about ready to board "Gabe's boat" and Vincent under the she-beast's influence - and doing nothing to get out of her spell - while possibly being shot again while still recovering, how is that they reached their lowest point? With Kern affirming that VinCat will be Mr and Mrs Smith - that tried to kill each other most part of the movie - and will be in opposite sides with she-beast still attached to Vincent's hip, how is that their lowest point? I think their point is even lower than that and I really think a 4 episodes arc won't be able to fix it and that the light at the end of the tunnel - if it really exists - is still miles and miles away from where they are. I don't see Cat as about to board Gabe's boat. I haven't seen a true indication of Cat wanting to be with Gabe. Yes, they were too 'intimate' for my taste in Man or Beast, but I feel as though that was because he was the only one there at that time. I don't think V is 'under the she-beast's influence'. I think he's pretty much given himself up to his beast side and Tori wasn't helping as she making points that appealed to him. Until I see 209 and where everyone is at that point, can I definitively agree that V is under her influence. I definitely see it as the lowest point especially in the VinCat relationship. I doubt they have any trust between them after 208, something that would not have been imaginable before, nor are even contemplating if there can even be a future for them at this point. |
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Post by kiki09 on Jan 5, 2014 17:53:54 GMT -5
Exactly. It makes no sense that others can express disappointment or dislike about something (which is 100% fair) but yet when there is a differing point of view, it is treated with rudeness and some contempt. Isn't a forum a place to express ALL views, regardless if we agree or not? this specific post was extremely rude and as i said for no reason, especially since I was not trying to "convert" people to like the show. I was merely expressing my views on the show! it was also extremely rude because it challenged and questioned my feelings about the show. The person was implying that really I do not like the show but I am trying to convince myself that I do. And that links to another post of mine of yesterday which said: "what i dont necessarily appreciate is overgeneralised comments, I find these a bit disrespectful For example: "I love the show, it is great" is different from "All beasties love the show it is amazing and if you don't shame on you" similarly "I really dont enjoy the show this season" is different from "All fans hate the show, admit it guys" or "the writers or kern have completely ruined the show, everyone thinks that". These are the type of generalised comments that tick me off a bit" Agreed. The over-generalization gets to be too much. I feel like BATB is a personal experience for everyone and to assume that the reason you came to love the show is the exact same reason others love the show, is very grating. And to assume that your subjective feelings represent the entire fandom is obnoxious. So I just try to express what I feel and not speak for the entire fandom as a whole. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 18:00:31 GMT -5
Vincent1Keller, I am glad that you are here; I surmise that that must be because you have things to share and that you are interested in reading what others have to say. I hope that everyone in this forum has treated you with the respect we all deserve. Thus, your comment to anapi truly baffles my mind. It is clear that her intention was to present her personal experience with/view of Season 2 and that she was not trying to convince anyone of anything, especially herself. You are free to disagree with her perspective but not to judge her intentions. I hope you did not intend to be cavalier with your comment, and I will certainly not judge your intentions, but, as I have stated before, we feel how we feel about the show, but we all have the responsibility to choose the language we use very carefully.
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Jan 5, 2014 18:00:47 GMT -5
Having a big snowstorm in the Midwest, and I am baking two loaves of Banana Bread.....just sayin' LOL!!!!  Yes we are snow packed and bitter cold in the Midwest. "Banana" bread is the only thing that might warm us Midwesterners up! Me three!!! Took a long winter' snap after working the night shift!!! |
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Post by Rysa on Jan 5, 2014 18:06:35 GMT -5
Guys there is no need to take it personally and express opinions or to say it better to be rude with others. It's only a TV show we all love, including me. Everybody here is expressing their thoughts about the show. It's no need to be so passionate, crossing the permitting limits. Of course we love VinCat moments in S1. S2 took another directions and I get it. I follow the storyline. I don't say that I love everything on the show. For me writers in some parts should be done in another way, according to my opinion. I see it natural to be apart and in reality have things like that. When is an epic love, nothing can apart them. Even if there is pointless kisses. Men are always like that. It's not weird. For me Vincent kissed Tori cause he made a deal with Cat's father to stay away from his daughter. Maybe it was not planned at all. As you all know, Tori influenced him in a weird way that I cannot explain. Tori and Alex are almost alike. Redhaired women both. Maybe they are connected somehow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 18:12:30 GMT -5
Guys there is no need to take it personally and express opinions or to say it better to be rude with others. It's only a TV show we all love, including me. Everybody here is expressing their thoughts about the show. It's no need to be so passionate, crossing the permitting limits. Of course we love VinCat moments in S1. S2 took another directions and I get it. I follow the storyline. I don't say that I love everything on the show. For me writers in some parts should be done in another way, according to my opinion. I see it natural to be apart and in reality have things like that. When is an epic love, nothing can apart them. Even if there is pointless kisses. Men are always like that. It's not weird. For me Vincent kissed Tori cause he made a deal with Cat's father to stay away from his daughter. Maybe it was not planned at all. As you all know, Tori influenced him in a weird way that I cannot explain. Tori and Alex are almost alike. Redhaired women both. Maybe they are connected somehow.
The kiss with Alex was totally understandable. This one was pure and simple to shock value. |
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 5, 2014 18:14:39 GMT -5
Guys there is no need to take it personally and express opinions or to say it better to be rude with others. It's only a TV show we all love, including me. Everybody here is expressing their thoughts about the show. It's no need to be so passionate, crossing the permitting limits. Of course we love VinCat moments in S1. S2 took another directions and I get it. I follow the storyline. I don't say that I love everything on the show. For me writers in some parts should be done in another way, according to my opinion. I see it natural to be apart and in reality have things like that. When is an epic love, nothing can apart them. Even if there is pointless kisses. Men are always like that. It's not weird. For me Vincent kissed Tori cause he made a deal with Cat's father to stay away from his daughter. Maybe it was not planned at all. As you all know, Tori influenced him in a weird way that I cannot explain. Tori and Alex are almost alike. Redhaired women both. Maybe they are connected somehow. I was wondering if Vincent kissed Tori because he knew Catherine was there - Vincent heard her heartbeat before he kissed Tori - that would ensure the break-up that her father wanted |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 18:16:33 GMT -5
LOL!!!! Yes we are snow packed and bitter cold in the Midwest. "Banana" bread is the only thing that might warm us Midwesterners up! Me three!!! Took a long winter' snap after working the night shift!!! I hope everyone got back to TO yesterday, because it's not fun out there today....freezing rain yet to come as well. It's back to work for me tomorrow after a two week holiday! I'll miss spending so much time on the forum! |
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Post by kiki09 on Jan 5, 2014 18:21:03 GMT -5
Guys there is no need to take it personally and express opinions or to say it better to be rude with others. It's only a TV show we all love, including me. Everybody here is expressing their thoughts about the show. It's no need to be so passionate, crossing the permitting limits. Of course we love VinCat moments in S1. S2 took another directions and I get it. I follow the storyline. I don't say that I love everything on the show. For me writers in some parts should be done in another way, according to my opinion. I see it natural to be apart and in reality have things like that. When is an epic love, nothing can apart them. Even if there is pointless kisses. Men are always like that. It's not weird. For me Vincent kissed Tori cause he made a deal with Cat's father to stay away from his daughter. Maybe it was not planned at all. As you all know, Tori influenced him in a weird way that I cannot explain. Tori and Alex are almost alike. Redhaired women both. Maybe they are connected somehow.
The kiss with Alex was totally understandable. This one was pure and simple to shock value.That's not what she said. To quote the tweet directly, she said that it was animal attraction and also that he was overcome with the 'beastie effect'. He words not mine. Never did she mention that he wanted it. |
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Post by Rysa on Jan 5, 2014 18:21:14 GMT -5
Guys there is no need to take it personally and express opinions or to say it better to be rude with others. It's only a TV show we all love, including me. Everybody here is expressing their thoughts about the show. It's no need to be so passionate, crossing the permitting limits. Of course we love VinCat moments in S1. S2 took another directions and I get it. I follow the storyline. I don't say that I love everything on the show. For me writers in some parts should be done in another way, according to my opinion. I see it natural to be apart and in reality have things like that. When is an epic love, nothing can apart them. Even if there is pointless kisses. Men are always like that. It's not weird. For me Vincent kissed Tori cause he made a deal with Cat's father to stay away from his daughter. Maybe it was not planned at all. As you all know, Tori influenced him in a weird way that I cannot explain. Tori and Alex are almost alike. Redhaired women both. Maybe they are connected somehow. I was wondering if Vincent kissed Tori because he knew Catherine was there - Vincent heard her heartbeat before he kissed Tori - that would ensure the break-up that her father wanted It could be on purpose for seeing it Cat but if the author said it was a kiss cause Vin wanted to kiss Tori. This everything change. Despite of that fact he took advantage to break up with her after the kiss. They had a little conversation. Vincent said to Cat: "She kissed me" but it's an excuse for me. They kissed cause they want it. I think that Tori caused it as everything when she is around Vincent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 18:28:48 GMT -5
The author of the episode herself came public and said that Vincent kissed she-beast because he wanted, there was no good intentions behind it.
The kiss with Alex was totally understandable. This one was pure and simple to shock value. That's not what she said. To quote the tweet directly, she said that it was animal attraction and also that he was overcome with the 'beastie effect'. He words not mine. Never did she mention that he wanted it.  |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 5, 2014 18:39:06 GMT -5
Reynolds is coming baaaaack!!!  @twhittall Back to work tomorrow or studying? Ted Whittall @twhittall 55m @mcdonoughkeely study. Work later this month. Keely Mcdonough @mcdonoughkeely 16m @twhittall Are you allowed to say what you are working on? If not no worries, jus curious. Ted Whittall @twhittall 2m @mcdonoughkeely going back to do Beauty, but can't honestly say I know what I'm going to be doing. Though I wouldn't say if I did  |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 5, 2014 18:47:26 GMT -5
And showcase still don't know when they will air BATB in Canada..
Ruth Cassidy @ruthjccassidy 4 Jan
@showcasedotca when does #Beautyandthebeast return for our Canadian beasties? Can't wait to hear!
Showcase @showcasedotca 2m
@ruthjccassidy Hi Ruth, we don't have a date just yet for Beauty and the Beast, but any and all announcements will be made here on Twitter!
Maybe CW and Showcase are having some quarels regarding this issue. Could it be that CW requests showcase to air after the day it airs in the USA and Showcase doesn't want to accept it cause that way they might lose viewers? Maybe airing 1 day earlier was a deal that Showcase had with CW and now they have to renegotiate again... I wish I knew what is being cooking in their kitchens!
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