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Post by sweetrosie29 on Nov 16, 2013 8:01:21 GMT -5
Me too
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Post by stayingwithBATB4ever on Nov 16, 2013 13:03:06 GMT -5
I was supposed to go to sleep but I can't.... :'(after breathing the 'deepest' I could, something came to my mind, maybe it won't make any sense but I'll write it anyway...I was remembering episode Instict of Smallville, when Maxima goes seducing all the guys with her 'endorphine kiss', and she even gets to seduce Clark, when they are 'kissing' in the elevator (Clark is not himself at that moment, he is under her spell) Lois shows up, and when he sees her, he suddenly forgets about Maxima, put her aside, and goes after Lois, it was like the power Maxima had over him suddenly dissapeared, well, maybe this makes no sense at all, I'm way too desperate trying to find ways for this not to happen....or at least not to be as bad at it seems...looking for 'solutions'... maybe if Catherine shows up (before Vincent even moves a finger of course!!!!) and Vincent sees her, that 'thing' Tori 'triggers' on him could dissapear, he could send her to the furtherst place ever and the disaster could be avoided... ok it is almost 2:00am here, I know all this is way too weird, don't shoot me lol
I'm nervous about possibility of beast on beast but I refuse to panic.. I suffer too much if I go that way so I will stay calm and think in different scenarios about it. Don't know too much about animals behavior but they use to be more loyal than humans... When they find their mate they stick to her forever, right? Cat is Vincent's mate (they are destined) so as much as Tori animal instinc reacts with Vincent I still remain positive that he will not fall for her or give her a chance, even if VinCat broke up! Maybe there's a kiss (unexpected as Cat Ashton said) between Tori and Vincent. But maybe he didn't expect it an doesn't allow it togo further. Alanaxxx I'm with u, Cat' spell is stronger than noone else becausr SHE'S THE ONE FOR VINCENT!! ^^yes, that's what I meant, Catherine's spell is much more stronger, as you said, they are destined! and your animal theory is so right (hadn't thought of it until now) they're more loyal than us, so, if something happens between V/T (I don't even want to think of they both kissing) but if it 'has to happen' I hope Vincent will 'stop' it before it goes further I'm calmer than yesterday, speculating on this is kind of hard! besides all this stress isn't good for our health xD I'm trying to focus on different things, so lets wait and see what happens....
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Post by stayingwithBATB4ever on Nov 16, 2013 13:08:21 GMT -5
I was supposed to go to sleep but I can't.... :'(after breathing the 'deepest' I could, something came to my mind, maybe it won't make any sense but I'll write it anyway...I was remembering episode Instict of Smallville, when Maxima goes seducing all the guys with her 'endorphine kiss', and she even gets to seduce Clark, when they are 'kissing' in the elevator (Clark is not himself at that moment, he is under her spell) Lois shows up, and when he sees her, he suddenly forgets about Maxima, put her aside, and goes after Lois, it was like the power Maxima had over him suddenly dissapeared, well, maybe this makes no sense at all, I'm way too desperate trying to find ways for this not to happen....or at least not to be as bad at it seems...looking for 'solutions'... maybe if Catherine shows up (before Vincent even moves a finger of course!!!!) and Vincent sees her, that 'thing' Tori 'triggers' on him could dissapear, he could send her to the furtherst place ever and the disaster could be avoided... ok it is almost 2:00am here, I know all this is way too weird, don't shoot me lol
IF and i'm only saying IF there is a Vincent/Tori fling in store for us, i would love it if they'd go this way. so far this is the ONLY way that i like. that aside, breathe and remember, these are all speculations. yes JayKris admit there'll be triangle but that about the only thing we know about it. let's not exhaust ourselves here..... breathe in breathe out.... Yes, if something happens....they could/should go this way...anyway you're right, I'm in a 'zen mood' today lol I love speculating but doing it about 'this' is too hard!!! so, lets copy your kitty, breath in breath out
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Post by stayingwithBATB4ever on Nov 16, 2013 13:21:53 GMT -5
Julz your theory is great!!! it makes so much sense, hope eveything goes that way
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Post by DeadLikeWindsorJulz on Nov 17, 2013 1:11:26 GMT -5
Your post reminded me of a theory that has been nagging me in my mind since the final scene of Tori's eyes glowing. Again, just my own theory with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for evidence - no spoiler info here, just my personal idea. At least this won't make me go code yellow again! Here goes: I believed that Tori truly loved her father, despite what he became and despite his overprotectiveness of her. Her face was devastated as she watched her father die. My theory is that she is hiding her anger and hatred for what V did to her father. Something in this episode is going to make her realize what power she holds over him - no idea what that would be yet. Once she understands what she can do, she is going to wield this power as a weapon to hurt both Cat and V, but mostly V. She will want to separate V and Cat so he can feel as alone as she does without her father. She will make him do things that Cat cannot forgive, making her push him away. This makes V more "pliable" - without Cat's influence, Tori will be able to make him do what SHE wants. So while he is doing her bidding, she is getting what she wants on two fronts. First, V accomplishes things for her that she could never do alone (maybe kill bio-dad in revenge for targeting HER dad?). Second, every line V crosses puts distance between him and Cat, thus getting revenge on him (pain of losing his most precious loved one) for killing HER dad. I'm sure V will eventually escape this influence, but I'm wondering how? As far as anything "seductive" and my theory, Tori will use THIS influence over V for one simple purpose - cause Cat to run away from him. This gives her more power over him. She hates what he did to her dad too much to actually want him. Again, my own personal theory. There is no basis for my theory in any spoiler or leaked bit. I was just speculating, thinking that I could never fall for a guy who could kill my dad before my very eyes. I would, however, try to get revenge on such a person. At least this theory avoids this scary thought that V and Tori could actually be attracted to each other "in that way". I am trying very hard to avoid that scenario AT ALL COSTS! Yeah, I may be in denial . . . So what do you guys think? Possible, probable, or just plain crazy?!? Rose-colored glasses? If you don't mind me asking, would you let me know? Definitely a good theory for Tori to stay around, but HOW she does all these things... that's what i am afraid of coz right now i can only think of ONE way.... I am guessing she will use the same power as she did with causing her father to beast out?
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Post by feezya on Nov 17, 2013 6:39:02 GMT -5
Definitely a good theory for Tori to stay around, but HOW she does all these things... that's what i am afraid of coz right now i can only think of ONE way.... I am guessing she will use the same power as she did with causing her father to beast out? I wasn't very sure of what her power really is but right now i'm assuming it's making other beasts - beastie. That i can actually live with but with so many talking about her being the 3rd person in vincat's triangle, i have to admit the power of "seduction" also came to mind, which is really not my cup of tea Well, it's SUNDAY and we'll definitely get more answer tomorrow (i hope)
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Post by Mycupoftea on Nov 17, 2013 10:20:29 GMT -5
I am guessing she will use the same power as she did with causing her father to beast out? I wasn't very sure of what her power really is but right now i'm assuming it's making other beasts - beastie. That i can actually live with but with so many talking about her being the 3rd person in vincat's triangle, i have to admit the power of "seduction" also came to mind, which is really not my cup of tea Well, it's SUNDAY and we'll definitely get more answer tomorrow (i hope) Did she purposely use a power "seduction"?( because I don't think she knew what she was). Or did her father beast out, as a subconscious reaction to having a young beast daughter to protect? Its unlikely that Tori did much to effect Vincent ( if anything), when he ripped out her dads heart. That was probably caused by the word " CONDOR " on the sign behind Cat and Gabe, which seems to be Vincent's programmed trigger word. So as of now, Tori has shown no ability to make anyone do anything, they do not choose to do, or In Vincent's case programmed to do.
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Post by jaykris on Nov 17, 2013 10:21:28 GMT -5
I hope Cat apologizes to V after making that comment. It looked like she felt guilty and regretted saying it from the look on her face in the preview, I hope so because her acting like this is going to drive V right into Tori's arms. If she continues on this path, V is going to start to wonder, maybe I need to find someone who accepts me completely for who I am, beast and human, maybe since Tori is a beast, she understands me. This is where I think they are heading, in this direction and he will start to second guess if he should be with Catherine, or maybe Catherine needs to be with someone completely human like herself, if she can't accept him for who he is.
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Post by sweetrosie29 on Nov 17, 2013 11:36:34 GMT -5
This is my fear too and by the time both Cat and Vincent realize they truly want to be with each other and accept each other faults and all it will be to late :'(for our beloved Vincat to be reunited hence to where I think the ' Man or Beast' goes and Vincent will go go with Tori in every sense
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Nov 17, 2013 13:15:07 GMT -5
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Post by kiki09 on Nov 17, 2013 15:01:43 GMT -5
Agreed to a certain extent. Is the Tori hate because of Alex stuff or because adding another person is taking away from the core cast and their stories/journey?
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Post by feezya on Nov 17, 2013 15:33:52 GMT -5
I wasn't very sure of what her power really is but right now i'm assuming it's making other beasts - beastie. That i can actually live with but with so many talking about her being the 3rd person in vincat's triangle, i have to admit the power of "seduction" also came to mind, which is really not my cup of tea Well, it's SUNDAY and we'll definitely get more answer tomorrow (i hope) Did she purposely use a power "seduction"?( because I don't think she knew what she was). Or did her father beast out, as a subconscious reaction to having a young beast daughter to protect? Its unlikely that Tori did much to effect Vincent ( if anything), when he ripped out her dads heart. That was probably caused by the word " CONDOR " on the sign behind Cat and Gabe, which seems to be Vincent's programmed trigger word. So as of now, Tori has shown no ability to make anyone do anything, they do not choose to do, or In Vincent's case programmed to do. actually what i mean by seduction is referring to speculation for the future episodes where many are predicting she'll be in the way of vincat relationship (referring to julz theory), not from the previous episode. we definitely have no idea what her power actually is.... yet. hopefully we'll get the answer tomorrow!! :dancing3:It's almost monday already
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Nov 17, 2013 15:43:22 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself, I resent the time spent on Tori because it takes away time that could've been spent on characters I care about! Enough already! I can see her story enhancing Vincent's dilemma & decisions about who he is or wants to be. But not at the expense of everyone else. To me, she's like a Speed Bump. You know it's there for a reason but you don't have to like it! Sort of like the overdrawn Tess/Gabe convos!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 15:53:01 GMT -5
It's seems obvious to me what they're leading up to. The final scene of the final episode (maybe sooner) this year will be Cat's eyes glowing in beast mode! Kristin in full beast makeup would something I'd tune in to see next season.
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