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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 22:51:47 GMT -5
I'm going to bed to sleep this one off; it better not invade my dreams because then Ill be having a nightmare. Thankfully, the sun will come out tomorrow (perhaps not literally, here in TO) bur certainly in my mind. I'm still riding the roller coaster, but these loop de loops are killing me, and I have a pretty strong stomach....I'm just afraid that I am quite close to derailing; boy, that's going to really hurt!
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Post by texasscotian on Jan 19, 2014 22:52:30 GMT -5
OK initial reaction, When Vincent goes on the talk show ... it definitely felt more my Jay then Vincent. But then I have to remember that Vincent's memories are suppressed, so of course he was not going to be the shy in the shadows Vincent, we knew in Season one. This is a far more brazen, determined Vincent. Perhaps the real Vincent Keller, who would be wreck less enough to enlist in the Army?
Totally confused, as too why Catherine would kiss Gabe? And even the second guy! Catherine, kissed the first guy once so not to blow her cover but then the second kiss??? Is she just handing them out now??? Because I know, if I ever broke up with someone who I claimed was the love of my life, I would be a little more reserved and selective about puckering up!!! But hey ... that's just me! On a side note, Vincent had his memory wiped and doesn't remember a thing ... What's Catherine's excuse?? Honestly.... I believe Catherine kissed Patrick the first time around just to get Vincent all riled up.... kinda like a tit for tat situation, but also yes so as to not blow her cover. Just as she went along with the "story" that the Russian Ambassador's wife assumed as to how Catherine knew Vincent. Remember she says something along the lines of Vincent the War Hero is well known and has lots of fans now, ( I don't remember the exact phrase she said). As for the second time she kissed Patrick, I really and truly think it was more as kind of good luck/sympathy kiss. I don't know how to describe it precisely, but I just didn't get any romantic vibes out of it. Now as to kissing Gabe? Well... I think she gave it as both a thank you kiss and kinda of a I may be slightly interested, but I'm not really too sure about it. It's kinda like she decided to do it on impulse. Gabe seemed to really like it but at the same time he seemed somewhat surprised by her actions. I really hope we get the return of "Evil Gabe", cause I just am not buying his innocent act. As to how Vincent was portrayed on the view.. .It just felt soooo out of character as to his character. But then again I have never really been a fan of that talk show and how the ladies acted on there is really typical of how that show really is. For all the "hype" that was given for his appearance on The View, it really seemed like a waste of time. However, I really like how he more or less told Tori off and finally spoke up for himself. Anyway that's my two cents' worth of an opinion.....
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 19, 2014 22:53:28 GMT -5
IMO, this was the best episode ever. Yes, there was a Cat/Gabe, and Cat initiated, however, it was more of a thank you kiss to him for trusting her. That relationship is definitely going nowhere. Vincent has absolutely no interest in pursuing a relationship with Tori that is clearly quite evident. Personally speaking, I like to shake people's hands to thanks them ... not kiss them, on the lips!!! LOL!!!
For me that is a very subjective thing. I usually kiss people on the cheeks. When my kids were little they asked me why my Dad kissed them on the lips? I explained that some people kiss on cheeks & some on lips. "No big deal, just turn your head."
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Jan 19, 2014 22:54:39 GMT -5
Well, we're screwed haha...sigh. I'm not going to comment on what I hate because I don't want to break the rules of my own forum The episode was great. The cast was awesome. Seriously if you're an outsider and not a shipper, you would enjoy this episode. I don't think the hard VinCat fans will do. I love Cat in this episode. She was awesome. I love Patrick. Can I marry Patrick? And I don't want to marry anyone at all. Another character that I like and leaves . I knew he wasn't going to stay or end up with Cat so I'm going to ship him with me. Paren, Karick, Patren, Katrick Throw me tomatoes all you want but maybe in another life they would have been perfect for each other . He was always making sure she was ok. Goodbye Patrick Now I don't ship Gabe with Cat. I don't like Gabe but neither Vincent or Gabe deserves Cat. IMO neither one of these people deserves to date right now. And I won't comment about Vincent without breaking the rules. So just so you know to make sure that I do care about this show besides everything that has happened I yelled "Noooo, wth? we're screwed" towards the end haha LOL Karen! You had me rolling! Breaking your own rules yeah? Vincent was a ---- and ---- and ---- and ----- does that sum it up? I loathe Gabe's face when she smacked that kiss on his lips! Tori wasn't hardly in the episode LOL so she doesn't bother me one bit, hasn't really at all since day one of her appearance So Vincent's um ancestor was a dog who was a pet of Catherine's relative? LOL!! Yea, that pretty much sums it up haha. You find a way of not breaking the rules and talk about Vincent. Yay! Yea, imagine that. Cat's aunt had a dog that was a Vincent's ancestor. That's why Cat called Vincent a dog in the last episode
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 19, 2014 22:55:10 GMT -5
The worst part for me was when Vincat faced off with new cutie guy. (Patrick?) Cat had warned Vincent not to make her shoot him again and V had warned her not to cross him or get in his way or whatever. So here they are, facing off and she realizes that he's the one who killed Sean or whoever is that guy he slaughtered like an animal. V says yeah and he'll kill this guy too if he can't have this gem thing. The blocking....the blocking of the characters was JUST like when V was going to kill Bob. He is on the right of the shot and the guy is on the left, against the wall. V is ready to kill and Cat's weapon is on him and you can see the anguish in her face. And you can tell she just can't do it again. She just can't. Not only that, but it'll probably cause so much more dangerous complication. But she knows he almost died and he was in the hospital a couple weeks ago or whatever, and you can see in her face the agony and she just can't do it. And V's face has nothing in it but like daring her to try and stop him - that to stop him, she'll have to shoot him again and there is nothing of feeling in his face whatsoever - just raw aggression and staring down his opponent who was in the way of what he wanted for himself. And I hated this moment b/c it took Catherine's power away from her. The self-satisfied look on his face when she couldn't shoot him was almost to me like, "Heh, see, I knew you wouldn't do it again." She's a great person, I mean, I would have put a bullet in his shin and wiped that smug look right off his emotionless face!! And I'm so not happy with the writers for recycling this situation and putting Catherine through it and having V come out the "winner" of it. The blocking was even the same and that's just wrong and lazy. I actually cried over it. Teared up, I mean, because of her anguish and how horrible the scene felt. So, as weird as I think Cat was for kissing that guy goodbye and then kissing Gabe thanks - yep totally weird and reckless - I'm like, you know what, I don't care after the way Vincent looked at her and dared her to shoot him. Again. I just feel sick after reading that Katie............I mean literally. I cannot believe that they replayed that scene. I mean, let's just have Vincent push her again and hurt her. That is really nauseating. I feel heartsick.........
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Post by curly on Jan 19, 2014 22:55:50 GMT -5
First impression is Gabe does not want Cat to get involved with FBI/Dad stuff for another reason. Remember he also spared her the details. Ok let me go finish. The talk scene was weird.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 22:56:43 GMT -5
OK initial reaction, When Vincent goes on the talk show ... it definitely felt more my Jay then Vincent. But then I have to remember that Vincent's memories are suppressed, so of course he was not going to be the shy in the shadows Vincent, we knew in Season one. This is a far more brazen, determined Vincent. Perhaps the real Vincent Keller, who would be wreck less enough to enlist in the Army?
Totally confused, as too why Catherine would kiss Gabe? And even the second guy! Catherine, kissed the first guy once so not to blow her cover but then the second kiss??? Is she just handing them out now??? Because I know, if I ever broke up with someone who I claimed was the love of my life, I would be a little more reserved and selective about puckering up!!! But hey ... that's just me! On a side note, Vincent had his memory wiped and doesn't remember a thing ... What's Catherine's excuse?? Honestly.... I believe Catherine kissed Patrick the first time around just to get Vincent all riled up.... kinda like a tit for tat situation, but also yes so as to not blow her cover. Just as she went along with the "story" that the Russian Ambassador's wife assumed as to how Catherine knew Vincent. Remember she says something along the lines of Vincent the War Hero is well known and has lots of fans now, ( I don't remember the exact phrase she said). As for the second time she kissed Patrick, I really and truly think it was more as kind of good luck/sympathy kiss. I don't know how to describe it precisely, but I just didn't get any romantic vibes out of it. Now as to kissing Gabe? Well... I think she gave it as both a thank you kiss and kinda of a I may be slightly interested, but I'm not really too sure about it. It's kinda like she decided to do it on impulse. Gabe seemed to really like it but at the same time he seemed somewhat surprised by her actions. I really hope we get the return of "Evil Gabe", cause I just am not buying his innocent act. As to how Vincent was portrayed on the view.. .It just felt soooo out of character as to his character. But then again I have never really been a fan of that talk show and how the ladies acted on there is really typical of how that show really is. For all the "hype" that was given for his appearance on The View, it really seemed like a waste of time. However, I really like how he more or less told Tori off and finally spoke up for himself. Anyway that's my two cents' worth of an opinion..... Anyway... that's just my take on things and yes i agree on many of the thigns u are saying didnt care about the kisses withthe guy did not liek the gabe kiss though, cause it was like telling him mate u have a chance. but the kiss was like she was kissing her brother,.. i felt sorry for tori, she is like a puppy and vincen twas ordering her around which i did not appreicate at all
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 22:58:12 GMT -5
lol seriosuly in the talk scene i thought it was jay not vincent!
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 19, 2014 23:00:27 GMT -5
That Bar scene at the Embassy has me squealing like a 12 yr old! Agreed, that was a great scene and very well acted indeed! Looks like it's you & me, Babe!!! Let's raise a glass & clink! squeal!! [we need a wine glass emoticon]
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Post by raniamahd on Jan 19, 2014 23:00:56 GMT -5
ok , first good morning every one second , the episode is on my download section now , dare i watch it or it will be too painful ? correct me if i am wrong here 1- there is a C/G relation now and they kissed 2- Cat turned to what is looks like a hooker and now she kisses every guy cross her way ? 3- Vincent is now an official killer after all Cat's effort to keep him from being one ! 4- there is a V/T relation or its on the way and with JT blessing
did i miss any other horrible thing ? i thought e9 was the curved's lowest point and its going up from now on ?! ok is there any thing good at all in this episode ? any thing not so painful to watch ? any thing promise the next episode maybe better ? now if the answer of those questions is no , any one know a way to translate the episodes without watching ? that be really useful for me !
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jan 19, 2014 23:01:43 GMT -5
The worst part for me was when Vincat faced off with new cutie guy. (Patrick?) Cat had warned Vincent not to make her shoot him again and V had warned her not to cross him or get in his way or whatever. So here they are, facing off and she realizes that he's the one who killed Sean or whoever is that guy he slaughtered like an animal. V says yeah and he'll kill this guy too if he can't have this gem thing. The blocking....the blocking of the characters was JUST like when V was going to kill Bob. He is on the right of the shot and the guy is on the left, against the wall. V is ready to kill and Cat's weapon is on him and you can see the anguish in her face. And you can tell she just can't do it again. She just can't. Not only that, but it'll probably cause so much more dangerous complication. But she knows he almost died and he was in the hospital a couple weeks ago or whatever, and you can see in her face the agony and she just can't do it. And V's face has nothing in it but like daring her to try and stop him - that to stop him, she'll have to shoot him again and there is nothing of feeling in his face whatsoever - just raw aggression and staring down his opponent who was in the way of what he wanted for himself. And I hated this moment b/c it took Catherine's power away from her. The self-satisfied look on his face when she couldn't shoot him was almost to me like, "Heh, see, I knew you wouldn't do it again." She's a great person, I mean, I would have put a bullet in his shin and wiped that smug look right off his emotionless face!! And I'm so not happy with the writers for recycling this situation and putting Catherine through it and having V come out the "winner" of it. The blocking was even the same and that's just wrong and lazy. I actually cried over it. Teared up, I mean, because of her anguish and how horrible the scene felt. So, as weird as I think Cat was for kissing that guy goodbye and then kissing Gabe thanks - yep totally weird and reckless - I'm like, you know what, I don't care after the way Vincent looked at her and dared her to shoot him. Again. I just feel sick after reading that Katie............I mean literally. I cannot believe that they replayed that scene. I mean, let's just have Vincent push her again and hurt her. That is really nauseating. I feel heartsick......... Honestly, that was the low of the ep for me. I can handle random kissings - I'm a pretty tough fan and shipper. I can handle the show going in other directions but scenes like this one, that tear the very fabric of the show and who these people are - it's sickening. It still was a an action-packed, entertaining ep and the Vincat scene at the bar was super charged with tension. The good kind.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 19, 2014 23:02:07 GMT -5
LOL Karen! You had me rolling! Breaking your own rules yeah? Vincent was a ---- and ---- and ---- and ----- does that sum it up? I loathe Gabe's face when she smacked that kiss on his lips! Tori wasn't hardly in the episode LOL so she doesn't bother me one bit, hasn't really at all since day one of her appearance So Vincent's um ancestor was a dog who was a pet of Catherine's relative? LOL!! Yea, that pretty much sums it up haha. You find a way of not breaking the rules and talk about Vincent. Yay! Yea, imagine that. Cat's aunt had a dog that was a Vincent's ancestor. That's why Cat called Vincent a dog in the last episode To be honest Vincent does belong in the doghouse! LOL BTW: To be fair..Catherine I think NOT only wanted to protect her cover but also make him a little jealous..She even asked him "Why you jealous?" LOL
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Jan 19, 2014 23:02:51 GMT -5
The worst part for me was when Vincat faced off with new cutie guy. (Patrick?) Cat had warned Vincent not to make her shoot him again and V had warned her not to cross him or get in his way or whatever. So here they are, facing off and she realizes that he's the one who killed Sean or whoever is that guy he slaughtered like an animal. V says yeah and he'll kill this guy too if he can't have this gem thing. The blocking....the blocking of the characters was JUST like when V was going to kill Bob. He is on the right of the shot and the guy is on the left, against the wall. V is ready to kill and Cat's weapon is on him and you can see the anguish in her face. And you can tell she just can't do it again. She just can't. Not only that, but it'll probably cause so much more dangerous complication. But she knows he almost died and he was in the hospital a couple weeks ago or whatever, and you can see in her face the agony and she just can't do it. And V's face has nothing in it but like daring her to try and stop him - that to stop him, she'll have to shoot him again and there is nothing of feeling in his face whatsoever - just raw aggression and staring down his opponent who was in the way of what he wanted for himself. And I hated this moment b/c it took Catherine's power away from her. The self-satisfied look on his face when she couldn't shoot him was almost to me like, "Heh, see, I knew you wouldn't do it again." She's a great person, I mean, I would have put a bullet in his shin and wiped that smug look right off his emotionless face!! And I'm so not happy with the writers for recycling this situation and putting Catherine through it and having V come out the "winner" of it. The blocking was even the same and that's just wrong and lazy. I actually cried over it. Teared up, I mean, because of her anguish and how horrible the scene felt. So, as weird as I think Cat was for kissing that guy goodbye and then kissing Gabe thanks - yep totally weird and reckless - I'm like, you know what, I don't care after the way Vincent looked at her and dared her to shoot him. Again. I didn't cry. I reserve my tears for another moment like when Cat cries haha. That always makes me cry. I don't think what Vincent did deserve my tears haha Yea, Vincent's face during that scene was like "I won't and you didn't" because she couldn't shoot him again. I think I can comment without breaking the rules. There was another scene where I didn't like Vincent's reaction towards Cat. When he was going upstairs with that Russian woman. It was like saying: "Yea, you kissed that dude, but I'm going upstairs with this hot woman to her bedroom". Sigh. Seriously Vincent? Are you 5 years old?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 23:02:59 GMT -5
LOL Karen! You had me rolling! Breaking your own rules yeah? Vincent was a ---- and ---- and ---- and ----- does that sum it up? I loathe Gabe's face when she smacked that kiss on his lips! Tori wasn't hardly in the episode LOL so she doesn't bother me one bit, hasn't really at all since day one of her appearance So Vincent's um ancestor was a dog who was a pet of Catherine's relative? LOL!! Yea, that pretty much sums it up haha. You find a way of not breaking the rules and talk about Vincent. Yay! Yea, imagine that. Cat's aunt had a dog that was a Vincent's ancestor. That's why Cat called Vincent a dog in the last episode Thanks, bellas! At least I'm off to bed chuckling! Way too funny!!!!!
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Post by solveig on Jan 19, 2014 23:08:55 GMT -5
I'm sorry to freak people out, but I have to say that ep just broke my heart into a million pieces. You're not the only one... I'm here for the long ride, like many of you, but I think I've resigned myself to the fact that the series I am watching now definitely is not the same one that I watched last year (nor the same one that I fell in love with...). The characters still have the same names and all, but... each week I watch the new episodes somehow hoping to see glimpses of VinCat from S1, only to be disappointed. Right in the beginning of this episode, when they briefly showed Catherine reading the news about the "war hero dating the heiress", I thought I would stop watching there and then... After watching the whole episode, I don't think V and T are dating after all, but I can't understand JT's attitude. I can only imagine Austin will be getting lots of tweets from upset fans in the next few days... The scene between V and C at the embassy did remind me of Mr and Ms Smith at first, but later, when Catherine said to him: "What have you become?", it was probably the most painful part to watch. Vincent 2.0 -- how is going to redeem himself? By now, I truly believe we have been given all these spoilers about future episodes to appease us so that we "buy" what they are trying to depict before episode 15. I know things are supposed to get better, but at the moment it seems that a new "rock bottom" is reached each week... I will end this by saying: "I want to believe". (Yes, huge X Files fan here!)
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