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Post by Reyna on Jan 19, 2014 22:33:52 GMT -5
IMO, this was the best episode ever. Yes, there was a Cat/Gabe, and Cat initiated, however, it was more of a thank you kiss to him for trusting her. That relationship is definitely going nowhere. Vincent has absolutely no interest in pursuing a relationship with Tori that is clearly quite evident. Personally speaking, I like to shake people's hands to thanks them ... not kiss them, on the lips!!! LOL!!!
I may be wrong but did they imply that Vincent and Tori were together. I got that from when Vincent was on the talk show and he did not admit to dating anyone. Tori looked positivity hurt! Also in the news paper that Catherine was reading, it looked like there was a picture of Tori and Vincent holding hands? I hope I am totally wrong about that!
Have to re watch, yet, I do not believe so. Clearly, in Tori’s mind, she believes that Vincent and her are a couple, yet the way he came at her implies they are not. Remember, Vincent also told JT that he has tried to explain his relationship to Tori, yet failed. To me, the relationship is strictly on a platonic level. If you want to go so far as to call it platonic.
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Post by icebeastie on Jan 19, 2014 22:34:04 GMT -5
I'm sorry to freak people out, but I have to say that ep just broke my heart into a million pieces. mine too, though not sure if for the same reasons? i just could not recognise the characters at all it felt cold and heartless robotic? not sure how to describe it all over the place? i am speechless, that is definitely a good way for them to stop making me feel depressed for not getting season 3... it is 3am and i usually change my mind eventually but can this happen this time round?? i dunno, i really dont think so... maybe people who really liked it please post a review so i can get in a happier place cause i could not even see a vincat connection I saw a VinCat connection but it sure wasn't pretty or funny or hopeful. It was vindictive, and angry and cold! It was really, really hurtful to watch. I also can't imagine how these brilliant writers are going to patch this mess up and make us forget and spout butterflies and rainbows!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 22:35:45 GMT -5
Also, it just dawned on me that the episode description was off. Vincent and Catherine never worked together, and, at the end, she is still protecting Vincent and doesn't give out his identity to the FBI agent.
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Post by sunshine978 on Jan 19, 2014 22:36:16 GMT -5
Both Catherine's and Vincent's behaviour is off...perhaps that's what they wanted to portray, to make it feel that they are way less than their best self when they are apart. Vincent did say in Reunion that he knows he would be like Zach without Catherine. They are both slightly out of control, yet in perfect control...if that makes any sense. But they've been written out-of-character since the start of Season 2.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 22:36:17 GMT -5
So JT has turned from Catherine........But.....at some point he becomes Team Cat?? Fickle.......... Hopeful BEastie, it just felt very contrived coming from JT.....forced.....and came out of nowhere! Horrendous episode! Never thought it could get worse! i agree thedialogue did not feel believable and their connection did not link in well from previosu episodes jt and vincent i mean...weird
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 22:37:16 GMT -5
Also, it just dawned on me that the episode description was off. Vincent and Catherine never worked together, and, at the end, she is still protecting Vincent and doesn't give out his identity to the FBI agent. thank god! i am glad she protected him, at least something good happened lol
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Post by crazyforv on Jan 19, 2014 22:38:30 GMT -5
So JT has turned from Catherine........But.....at some point he becomes Team Cat?? Fickle.......... Hopeful BEastie, it just felt very contrived coming from JT.....forced.....and came out of nowhere! Horrendous episode! Never thought it could get worse! There was something definitely off with JT too today. At one point Vincent made a comment towards the end about wanting to know who he was and JT said, "that's what, we all want. But the way he said it, implied he was back tracking and hiding something!
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Post by Reyna on Jan 19, 2014 22:38:59 GMT -5
Also, it just dawned on me that the episode description was off. Vincent and Catherine never worked together, and, at the end, she is still protecting Vincent and doesn't give out his identity to the FBI agent. That is why I said earlier, we cannot always believe what we hear or read. We have to let the episodes play out.
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Jan 19, 2014 22:40:00 GMT -5
Well, we're screwed haha...sigh. I'm not going to comment on what I hate because I don't want to break the rules of my own forum The episode was great. The cast was awesome. Seriously if you're an outsider and not a shipper, you would enjoy this episode. I don't think the hard VinCat fans will though. I love Cat in this episode. She was awesome. I love Patrick. Can I marry Patrick? And I don't want to marry anyone at all. Another character that I like and leaves . I knew he wasn't going to stay or end up with Cat so I'm going to ship him with me. Paren, Karick, Patren, Katrick Throw me tomatoes all you want but maybe in another life they would have been perfect for each other . He was always making sure she was ok. Goodbye Patrick Now I don't ship Gabe with Cat. I don't like Gabe but neither Vincent or Gabe deserves Cat. IMO neither one of these people deserves to date right now. And I won't comment about Vincent without breaking the rules. So just so you know to make sure that I do care about this show besides everything that has happened I yelled "Noooo, wth? we're screwed" towards the end haha
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jan 19, 2014 22:44:11 GMT -5
The worst part for me was when Vincat faced off with new cutie guy. (Patrick?) Cat had warned Vincent not to make her shoot him again and V had warned her not to cross him or get in his way or whatever. So here they are, facing off and she realizes that he's the one who killed Sean or whoever is that guy he slaughtered like an animal. V says yeah and he'll kill this guy too if he can't have this gem thing. The blocking....the blocking of the characters was JUST like when V was going to kill Bob. He is on the right of the shot and the guy is on the left, against the wall. V is ready to kill and Cat's weapon is on him and you can see the anguish in her face. And you can tell she just can't do it again. She just can't. Not only that, but it'll probably cause so much more dangerous complication. But she knows he almost died and he was in the hospital a couple weeks ago or whatever, and you can see in her face the agony and she just can't do it. And V's face has nothing in it but like daring her to try and stop him - that to stop him, she'll have to shoot him again and there is nothing of feeling in his face whatsoever - just raw aggression and staring down his opponent who was in the way of what he wanted for himself. And I hated this moment b/c it took Catherine's power away from her. The self-satisfied look on his face when she couldn't shoot him was almost to me like, "Heh, see, I knew you wouldn't do it again." She's a great person, I mean, I would have put a bullet in his shin and wiped that smug look right off his emotionless face!! And I'm so not happy with the writers for recycling this situation and putting Catherine through it and having V come out the "winner" of it. The blocking was even the same and that's just wrong and lazy. I actually cried over it. Teared up, I mean, because of her anguish and how horrible the scene felt. So, as weird as I think Cat was for kissing that guy goodbye and then kissing Gabe thanks - yep totally weird and reckless - I'm like, you know what, I don't care after the way Vincent looked at her and dared her to shoot him. Again.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 19, 2014 22:44:29 GMT -5
Well, we're screwed haha...sigh. I'm not going to comment on what I hate because I don't want to break the rules of my own forum The episode was great. The cast was awesome. Seriously if you're an outsider and not a shipper, you would enjoy this episode. I don't think the hard VinCat fans will do. I love Cat in this episode. She was awesome. I love Patrick. Can I marry Patrick? And I don't want to marry anyone at all. Another character that I like and leaves . I knew he wasn't going to stay or end up with Cat so I'm going to ship him with me. Paren, Karick, Patren, Katrick Throw me tomatoes all you want but maybe in another life they would have been perfect for each other . He was always making sure she was ok. Goodbye Patrick Now I don't ship Gabe with Cat. I don't like Gabe but neither Vincent or Gabe deserves Cat. IMO neither one of these people deserves to date right now. And I won't comment about Vincent without breaking the rules. So just so you know to make sure that I do care about this show besides everything that has happened I yelled "Noooo, wth? we're screwed" towards the end haha LOL Karen! You had me rolling! Breaking your own rules yeah? Vincent was a ---- and ---- and ---- and ----- does that sum it up? I loathe Gabe's face when she smacked that kiss on his lips! Tori wasn't hardly in the episode LOL so she doesn't bother me one bit, hasn't really at all since day one of her appearance So Vincent's um ancestor was a dog who was a pet of Catherine's relative? LOL!!
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 19, 2014 22:44:53 GMT -5
This episode was so interesting and entertaining to me, truly it was. But at the same time, it was seriously brutal on every level. I'm the first one to say that I'm weird but I didn't see anything that I'd call brutal. In fact I'm still squealing & grinning like a loon! Gonna take a break & re-watch!
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Post by Reyna on Jan 19, 2014 22:47:04 GMT -5
Well, we're screwed haha...sigh. I'm not going to comment on what I hate because I don't want to break the rules of my own forum The episode was great. The cast was awesome. Seriously if you're an outsider and not a shipper, you would enjoy this episode. I don't think the hard VinCat fans will do. I love Cat in this episode. She was awesome. I love Patrick. Can I marry Patrick? And I don't want to marry anyone at all. Another character that I like and leaves . I knew he wasn't going to stay or end up with Cat so I'm going to ship him with me. Paren, Karick, Patren, Katrick Throw me tomatoes all you want but maybe in another life they would have been perfect for each other . He was always making sure she was ok. Goodbye Patrick Now I don't ship Gabe with Cat. I don't like Gabe but neither Vincent or Gabe deserves Cat. IMO neither one of these people deserves to date right now. And I won't comment about Vincent without breaking the rules. So just so you know to make sure that I do care about this show besides everything that has happened I yelled "Noooo, wth? we're screwed" towards the end haha LOL Karen! You had me rolling! Breaking your own rules yeah? Vincent was a ---- and ---- and ---- and ----- does that sum it up? I loathe Gabe's face when she smacked that kiss on his lips! Tori wasn't hardly in the episode LOL so she doesn't bother me one bit, hasn't really at all since day one of her appearance So Vincent's um ancestor was a dog who was a pet of Catherine's relative? LOL!! LOL, ROTFLMAO!
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jan 19, 2014 22:47:48 GMT -5
This episode was so interesting and entertaining to me, truly it was. But at the same time, it was seriously brutal on every level. I'm the first one to say that I'm weird but I didn't see anything that I'd call brutal. In fact I'm still squealing & grinning like a loon! Gonna take a break & re-watch!
The ep was really good and I was entertained yet at the same time, if you're a Vincat shipper, it was brutal, IMO.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 22:51:36 GMT -5
The worst part for me was when Vincat faced off with new cutie guy. (Patrick?) Cat had warned Vincent not to make her shoot him again and V had warned her not to cross him or get in his way or whatever. So here they are, facing off and she realizes that he's the one who killed Sean or whoever is that guy he slaughtered like an animal. V says yeah and he'll kill this guy too if he can't have this gem thing. The blocking....the blocking of the characters was JUST like when V was going to kill Bob. He is on the right of the shot and the guy is on the left, against the wall. V is ready to kill and Cat's weapon is on him and you can see the anguish in her face. And you can tell she just can't do it again. She just can't. Not only that, but it'll probably cause so much more dangerous complication. But she knows he almost died and he was in the hospital a couple weeks ago or whatever, and you can see in her face the agony and she just can't do it. And V's face has nothing in it but like daring her to try and stop him - that to stop him, she'll have to shoot him again and there is nothing of feeling in his face whatsoever - just raw aggression and staring down his opponent who was in the way of what he wanted for himself. And I hated this moment b/c it took Catherine's power away from her. The self-satisfied look on his face when she couldn't shoot him was almost to me like, "Heh, see, I knew you wouldn't do it again." She's a great person, I mean, I would have put a bullet in his shin and wiped that smug look right off his emotionless face!! And I'm so not happy with the writers for recycling this situation and putting Catherine through it and having V come out the "winner" of it. The blocking was even the same and that's just wrong and lazy. I actually cried over it. Teared up, I mean, because of her anguish and how horrible the scene felt. So, as weird as I think Cat was for kissing that guy goodbye and then kissing Gabe thanks - yep totally weird and reckless - I'm like, you know what, I don't care after the way Vincent looked at her and dared her to shoot him. Again. that scene i did read a bit differnetly yes i agree on the cat bit but i think vincent at this stage was in such a low place that he was like come on shoot me, doesnt matter anyway i dont care about life anymore in fact i really liked this scene because of that interaction
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