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Post by Reyna on Feb 10, 2013 23:08:19 GMT -5
Not to mention, everyone deserves a second chance. After your second chance, you are on your own.
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Post by Lina on Feb 10, 2013 23:10:09 GMT -5
Oh, absolutely, Reyna!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 10, 2013 23:10:28 GMT -5
I think this is the perfect moment for a Facebook quote: "Disney gave me unrealistic expectations about love" lol OMG so true! LOL ;D ;D
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Post by oa on Feb 10, 2013 23:46:27 GMT -5
my friends you are true, sorry to the men in the forum, but that is why men and women never do understand each other, apart from high expectations... communication barriers!
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Post by evanarose on Feb 11, 2013 3:01:24 GMT -5
So, I'm going to try to get all Dr.Phil and get into Vincents head! 1. I don't think it's so much about Vincent not knowing about Cats feelings ...I really think it's the fact that because he has trouble accepting his 'beast', he really can't get his head around the fact that anybody can. Cat can say, she does and always will but because he doesn't like that part of himself he doesn't see why she would. So even though it's a half a joke when he says 'see when I get whiskers and a tail.' at the hospital- he actually is really serious. He is terrified at the future, he doesn't know what's going to happen to himself. He doesn't know how to accept it, so how can cat? I think he is slowly just letting himself accept cat does accept his beast at present. 2. I think subconsciously he was trying to push Cat away (with this story arc.). Since he has trouble accepting Cat would still embrace the beast in the future, I think part of his mind was thinking if I live this fantasy now...maybe I would save myself the heartache of Cat not accepting the beast in the future. Kind of a convenient complicated issue...as he says at the end of one ep. 3. Actually now that I think of it, I think that conversation with Cat when he's talking about her previous history with guys was sub consciously pushing cat away Especially when calling himself 'The ultimate bad boy' He knows deep down, the Cat is the right one and it terrifies him, if they pursue this relationship- what the beast can do to them...I think like cat says, he actually also doesn't remember how to be close to somebody.. I think he is torn, he wants to let her in, but is he's struggle for acceptance of the beast stronger than his love for her? As the season progresses, I think the love will dominate.. 4. I think he is slowly going through the journey of realizing Cat is key to controlling the beast. It seems the writers are going in that direction i.e: with the blackouts, with JT going psycho but when Cat comes he calms down. I'm not sure if the writers are making it that Vincent doesn't realise that yet? But I guess he is too focused on thinking about bad things about the beast...to see that..and that it would in fact help the beast, if Cat was in his future. evanarose, Just WOW!! This is exactly what I'm saying..there are many factors as to why Vincent's sudden behavior, I personally think he freaked out more when Catherine told him in the hospital that " She accepted all that he was" this put him on a doubt roller-coaster ride with not only dealing with Catherine's acceptance but also dealing with his EX entering the picture... It's a much juicier storyline having an EX come in then feeling the scared and cold feet storyline alone...Remember it's also February sweeps, that doesn't do much for CW shows but it gives TPTB a hint as to what shows people want to watch by making the story-lines more dramatic then usual. Maybe you should consider a job change?? A shrink maybe?? ;D Gosh, I think we analyse batb more than the writers do LOL But it's great reading different theories and our thoughts on the characters, etc! And like you said that quote- I accept all of what you are , did put him on that doubt roller coaster ride...you can tell on his face, it freaked him out. I think at this point, he knew cat accepted his beast but didn't want to believe it...Because if cat accepted it, in a way he probably felt he needed to- for cat. Like he would feel pressured to face his beast as not a bad thing (he doesn't feel like it's possible.) and so he put himself in denial. I agree- it does make it juicier and dramatic with the EX...though looking at ratings, I'm not sure whether it's been effective as the writers had hoped. Yes, I heard the rating system is probably not the best source that CW should rely on (because they pick certain families ra, ra.)...but I think the promos should blame for that too. Not enough promo from CW for one...also, they made it a bit one-dimensional. For one, Cat and Vincent are separated quite abit in the promos. They haven't really shown them enough talking, and when they do, cat tends to voice over and other clips show instead of a clip of Vincent responding and looking back. I think that doesn't draw the audience in, as much as having them say dialogue to each other, even if they were arguing...and having it so, we see both characters with their reactions at the same time...I think that's possible to do without sharing too much But just enough for a cliff hanger. For instance the thin ice promo- Cat says "I can't compete with Alex." then instead of seeing Vincents reaction, they show Alex with the freakin towel! We didn't have to see what Vincent answered in the promo, but at least show his facial response! The cold turkey promo 20 sec one- starts with Vincent and Alex on the couch! That's kinda enough for fans to turn off straight away. If you are to start a promo, you should at least start with a pleasant scene And there's too much of Vincent and Alex. Even though it has been the main part of the story, I think the promo should be made that Vincent and Alex are 'secondary' because it's Vincent and Cat that draws the audience in. Either that, or one of JTs hilarious one liners! Anyway, I'm babbling about ratings and promos now lol but yeah hopefully you know what I mean
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 11, 2013 3:44:51 GMT -5
evanarose, I agree with you on everything you said!! I also think that the CW isn't promoting the show as they should...What do they think that the show is going to sell itself?? It's like the CW wants it to fail! Maybe they are trying to see how the show picks up by word of mouth and little publicity?? I think it's a big mistake on there part... I also believe that the promos should have had more Catherine and Vincent rather then Alex and Vincent...I'm not saying for them not to put Alex but not in those scenes...That threw off many..Although I have to admit..As much as this storyline sucks balls it didn't make me turn off..I cringed ..A LOT but I am standing by this show..If the ship sinks I'm going down with it! (God I hope not cause I can't swim ) Yolie
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Post by evanarose on Feb 11, 2013 4:42:07 GMT -5
evanarose, I agree with you on everything you said!! I also think that the CW isn't promoting the show as they should...What do they think that the show is going to sell itself?? It's like the CW wants it to fail! Maybe they are trying to see how the show picks up by word of mouth and little publicity?? I think it's a big mistake on there part... I also believe that the promos should have had more Catherine and Vincent rather then Alex and Vincent...I'm not saying for them not to put Alex but not in those scenes...That threw off many..Although I have to admit..As much as this storyline sucks balls it didn't make me turn off..I cringed ..A LOT but I am standing by this show..If the ship sinks I'm going down with it! (God I hope not cause I can't swim ) Yolie I know! Just because it's called 'Beauty and the Beast' they assume everyone has an idea of it, therefore they don't promote it as much ? Yeah, I get that feeling too, it almost feels like they want the show to fail! But actually because it's called 'Beauty and the Beast' they need to work harder than ever! Alot of people are probably more reluctant to watch it because in their mind set they could be thinking:- -Not another beauty and the beast -It's a remake, and remakes tend to be worse than the original (wrong in this case!) -The guy doesn't even look like a beast, how can it be as good? I got into the show because I knew Kristin, but I do confess those thoughts crossed my mind Except the 3rd, kinda had the reverse effect for me! Made me more curious about the 'beast.' But I told my friend about it and her face was like , don't think it'll be as good as the original then because he doesn't look scary like a beast. But then I told her the story with the experiment and she got interested.. I have no idea how often the promos are airing on tv there. Is it much? Wouldn't surprise me if 'The Carrie Diaries, Nikita' were on more often as the cw you tube seems to have it more. I don't see why they'd want to see how the show picks up by word of mouth and little publicity To see how the title carries itself Doesn't make much sense... Well, I really hope that batb continues...it would really suck if it didn't due to CWs lack of promotion! And I'm in the same boat lol except I can swim Though batb ending would be sad like the titanic one!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 11, 2013 5:18:44 GMT -5
And I'm in the same boat lol except I can swim Though batb ending would be as sad like the titanic one! Oh my God Titanic! Yeah that's how tragic it will be if the ship sinks! That's why we as fans must fight for this show! Make sure the CW hears us ROAR! Twitter,campaign whatever it takes to be heard! OH and to go back to this thread, LOL, I think she says "Boyfriend" in the clip of the promo, we should take a poll and see who guesses right or NOT ;D Yolie
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Post by evanarose on Feb 11, 2013 5:31:12 GMT -5
^Wow that goes so fast, it's really hard to guess! Is there a slow version somewhere?
Any theories at the start with Cat texting?
It looks like she's expecting someone to come- is afraid of someone seeing her? Like she isn't supposed to text?
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 11, 2013 5:43:33 GMT -5
^Wow that goes so fast, it's really hard to guess! Is there a slow version somewhere? Any theories at the start with Cat texting? It looks like she's expecting someone to come- is afraid of someone seeing her? Like she isn't supposed to text? The slow version is on my computer, I made it but haven't put it up on my youtube thinking no one would want to view it LOL
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 11, 2013 6:34:35 GMT -5
For the record I counted how many times Vincent was called *ss ,,,,3 x Heather, 2x Cat 2xTess and 1x by the *ss himself! Total 8 times in the episode...I guess the writers read our minds LOL!!
Yolie
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Post by oa on Feb 11, 2013 10:14:15 GMT -5
honestly the name calling in the episode looked like damage control to me! besides the fact that we are talking about the ending being like the titanic while the writers are literally working at the script for the final episode of the season as we speak looks like a sad irony to me!
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Post by summer on Feb 11, 2013 10:34:52 GMT -5
Yolie, I would love to see your slow version of the promo ... the last one you did helped a lot! Thursday seems so far away!
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Post by elle on Feb 11, 2013 10:43:22 GMT -5
Me too Yolie! I would love to see your slowed down promo, loved the last one. So many more details can be seen that way!!
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Post by oa on Feb 11, 2013 11:14:24 GMT -5
yep im in I would totally love a slow version or super slow version of the promo! PS can it be thursday yet, i hate this week so much, i really am taking a 5 min break just to read this cause i don't really even have enough time to freaking breathe!
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