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Post by Reyna on Oct 13, 2013 22:32:41 GMT -5
In all fairness, I want to see the epi tomorrow night. We have also heard that Catherine has been pushy and stalker-like and asking for it. Let's face it, from what we have heard in spoilers, tweets, clips, etc., Catherine WANTED to seduce him and then she is a little surprised when he throws it in her face during an argument? O.K....but still....I just can't imagine Vincent shoving Catherine; it just isn't him. I know...he is the "new, supercharged Vincent 2.0); but if I we don't like him, how can Catherine? Let's breathe...I mean I am the first who is against woman and violence..I think that we must see the episode first to get a sense of Catherine's mind set and drive in the first place..There comes a time when if you push someone hard enough..verbally I mean the other person will snap...I am not saying he should push or shove her but how far did it really go?? I mean did he get in her face?? Did he push her hard? WHAT? ..My other question is this..Does he have any remorse what so ever after he realizes what he did? GEEZ This is truly unexpected to say the least Catherine did push him a little too far. Vincent shoved her to the ground unintentionally and immediately apologized once he realized what he did.
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Post by lulabiba2a on Oct 13, 2013 22:33:34 GMT -5
ok, but it is not our Vincent, but Vincent 2. Catherine asks too many questions, he loses control and becomes the Beast 2, he pushes, but immediately regrets and apologizes to her, I think the Beast 2 is conditioned, programmed not to answer questions the risk of becoming the beast if she asks too much, if I liked the episode, hot moments frustrated me lol! but I am sure that we reserve for the future much better ^ ^
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Post by crazyforv on Oct 13, 2013 22:35:21 GMT -5
I think you are missing the point! The point is, is Vincent a man or a Beast and as such is the Beast to be trusted? I think sometimes as fans of Vincent we glaze over the fact that Vincent in Beast form was killing people and always ... always tried to control his rage! True. But...a huge premise of the love story was that, even in Beast mode, Vincent would NEVER hurt Catherine. He always was calmed by her; his instincts were to protect her. Everyone else, well...they were up for grabs; but not Catherine. That is why this is so unsettling. She asked for it, to a certain degree, I know. If he went off on her and "beasted-out" on her, I could understand. But he pushed her...much more HUMAN. I thought Vincent 2.0 had more control than "old" Vincent? But Vincent's new season two ark is; Is Vincent now more man or Beast??? He will have to work that out because he seemed shocked at what he did! Like I said, Vincent is definitely residing in the gray area as of late!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 13, 2013 22:36:08 GMT -5
Let's breathe...I mean I am the first who is against woman and violence..I think that we must see the episode first to get a sense of Catherine's mind set and drive in the first place..There comes a time when if you push someone hard enough..verbally I mean the other person will snap...I am not saying he should push or shove her but how far did it really go?? I mean did he get in her face?? Did he push her hard? WHAT? ..My other question is this..Does he have any remorse what so ever after he realizes what he did? GEEZ This is truly unexpected to say the least Catherine did push him a little too far. Vincent shoved her to the ground unintentionally and immediately apologized once he realized what he did. OMG! I think I'm going to be a mess tomorrow
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 13, 2013 22:37:18 GMT -5
OK GUYS POSTING THIS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN IT AND HAVE FORMED AN OPINION ABOUT THE LAST SCENE - CAUSE IF I HAD HEARD WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST SCENE AND HADNT SEEN THE EPISODE I WOULD BE REALLY ANGRY AT VINCENT AND THE WRITERS. BUT SERIOUSLY, I THOUGHT THE LAST SCENE WAS BRILLIANT EVEN THOUGH HE PUSHED HER ON THE FLOOR. HE WAS OUT OF CONTROL, HE DID NOT REALISE HE WAS DOING IT UNTIL AFTER HE HAD DONE IT. OBVIOUSLY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR, BUT YOU DO FEEL FOR HIM TOO IN THAT AS SOON AS HE REALISED HE DID IT YOU COULD SEE THE SHAME IN HIS FACE, HE REGRETTED IT STRAIGHTAWAY. AND AGAIN, I AM NOT SAYING IT WAS OK, BUT HE WAS OUT OF CONTROL. THE HURTFUL THINGS HE SAID, HE CLEARLY DIDN'T MEAN THEM, AND YES THE OLD VINCENT WOULD NEVER EVER SAY THESE THINGS, BUT THE GUY IS TOTALLY CONFLICTED AND UNSURE OF WHO OR WHAT HE IS, YOU CAN TELL. I CAN TELL U NOW, AFTER WHAT HAPPENED TODAY HE WILL NOT LOSE CONTROL AGAIN FOR SURE WITH CATHERINE. HIM PUSHING HER WILL OBVIOUSLY MAKE CATHERINE MORE CAUTIOUS AND SUSPICIOUS (HENCE HER DANCE SARCASM ON EPISODE 3) AND HE WILL BE VERY REMORSEFUL (HENCE PICTURES OF EPISODE 3) AND TO BE HONEST EVEN THOUGH THIS VINCENT I A NEW VINCENT, HE IS AND HE ISN'T. YOU CAN TOTALLY SEE THE CONNECTION AND HIS FEELINGS FOR HER ARE ALREADY THERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT EVEN THOUGH HE DOESN'T REMEMBER HER STILL, HE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR HER ALREADY. I WAS LESS HAPPY WITH SEX SCENE BY THE WAY, I WOULDN'T FEEL GREAT AFTER THE SEX SCENE IF I WAS CATHERINE (BY THE WAY, DONT GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT THE ACTUAL SEX SCENE) BUT AGAIN EVERYTHING IS THERE FOR A REASON. REGARDING CATHERINE, YES SHE WILL BE LESS FORGIVING OF VINCENT FROM NOW ON (WHO CAN BLAME HER) AND I THINK THAT IS GREAT, CAUSE THEIR RELATIONSHIP WILL BECOME MORE EQUAL NOW IN THAT RESPECT. I DONT THINK THIS LAST SCENE WILL CAUSE HER TO ASK WHO AM I AT ALL THOUGH, THAT WILL COME MUCH LATER AND DADDY WILL BE INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT. OVERALL I LOVED THE EPISODE (APART FROM THE CASE OF THE WEEK THING WHICH WAS DAFT AND COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BETTER, AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF REVEALING THAT THERE ARE OTHER BEASTS AND WHAT THEY DO) BUT NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE PERFECT RIGHT? OH AND THE EPISODE WAS REALLY FUNNY FROM ALL CHARACTERS, ESPECIALLY JT - TESS . DEFINITELY MANY MANY FUNNY SCENES (MORE THAN IN ANY OTHER EPISODE) AND A REALLY CUTE MOMENT BETWEEN JT AND TESS (OH YES) I WILL POST A FULL REVIEW TOMORROW ONCE EVERYONE HAS SEEN IT. AND ONCE I HAVE RESEEN IT MANY MORE TIMES. HOPEFULLY I DONT CHANGE MY MIND BY TOMORROW. SORRY FOR THE CAPITALS, JUST REALISED I HAD WRITTEN IN CAPITALS LOL!
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Post by crazyforv on Oct 13, 2013 22:38:31 GMT -5
Agreed but as a viewer I was left "gobsmacked!" ... Doing something unexpected, is what makes for a compelling show right? Just when we thought, they were getting back on track it was a punch to the gut! Oh yea. Definitely. Those 'holy guacamole' moments make the show. ..... But then again on a positive note, the chemistry in that kiss was off the charts and when Jay/ Vincent got out of bed, I found myself saying " 'holy guacamole" but this time in a good way! LOL!!! Dear Lord, how long before someone can post a screen shot of that scene???
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Post by marikuna7 on Oct 13, 2013 22:40:09 GMT -5
Oh yea. Definitely. Those 'holy guacamole' moments make the show. ..... But then again on a positive note, the chemistry in that kiss was off the charts and when Jay/ Vincent got out of bed, I found myself saying " 'holy guacamole" but this time in a good way! LOL!!! Dear Lord, how long before someone can post a screen shot of that scene??? He has some toned legs lolol
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Post by Reyna on Oct 13, 2013 22:42:12 GMT -5
Catherine did push him a little too far. Vincent shoved her to the ground unintentionally and immediately apologized once he realized what he did. OMG! I think I'm going to be a mess tomorrow Yes, however, keep in mind this episode will set the stage for Vincent regaining his memories and chasing after Cat. This is why Catherine asks Vincent if he will lose control in “Liar, Liar”. Stay strong and hold on to that.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 13, 2013 22:43:46 GMT -5
Oh yea. Definitely. Those 'holy guacamole' moments make the show. ..... But then again on a positive note, the chemistry in that kiss was off the charts and when Jay/ Vincent got out of bed, I found myself saying " 'holy guacamole" but this time in a good way! LOL!!! Dear Lord, how long before someone can post a screen shot of that scene??? Very expressive tonight?? LOL 'holy guacamole' LOL I just can't with you tonight! TOO FUNNY!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 13, 2013 22:46:53 GMT -5
OMG! I think I'm going to be a mess tomorrow Yes, however, keep in mind this episode will set the stage for Vincent regaining his memories and chasing after Cat. This is why Catherine asks Vincent if he will lose control in “Liar, Liar”. Stay strong and hold on to that. I agree, loved the episode for that. and for all the beautiful (and ugly) moments between vincat.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 13, 2013 22:48:03 GMT -5
Catherine did push him a little too far. Vincent shoved her to the ground unintentionally and immediately apologized once he realized what he did. OMG! I think I'm going to be a mess tomorrow \\ you will love the episode, I think.
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Oct 13, 2013 22:48:22 GMT -5
I watched the episode...I have a positive reaction and a negative reaction towards it. Honestly I'm more scared about how this episode can affect some fans. Sigh. Please don't stop watching . I think some things happened for a reason and other shouldn't happen. But before deciding you don't like the episode, watch it. It's your opinion
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Post by cheyde on Oct 13, 2013 22:52:44 GMT -5
well damn... that was a trip. loved the vincat houseboat scenes so much sexual tension the chemistry was intense.. cat didn't hold back to try to trigger his memory there lol.. but I knew cat's persistence would wear on Vincent and lead him to react in that end scene & what he says... unreal how one moment it's bliss then what he says to her at the nightclub.. liked Tess & JT getting along through out the episode.
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Post by marikuna7 on Oct 13, 2013 23:04:15 GMT -5
On the funnier note... Did Vincent grab Gabe by his nose and throw him? Or am I imagining lmaoo
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Post by Naná on Oct 13, 2013 23:10:07 GMT -5
OMG! tomorrow I'll have to watch the epi with my Kleenex and probably a glass of ice cream to drown the bitterness! LOL
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