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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 23, 2014 6:56:31 GMT -5
I expected more and I totally understand your train of thoughts anna. I just try to comprehend its mechanism of creation. Still a mediocre written episode, not a strong one. Hey! Bring on 21, totally on board with u anna. lol yes i agree vicky, i am just venting at this stage (still) - usually i get over disappointment quicker i just need a good nights sleep and i ll be over it 21 here we come lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 7:07:30 GMT -5
I'm so conflicted about this episode and am getting headaches trying to make heads to tails of it ...I think I'll sit this one out for a day or 2....point of correction, I will try to sit it out, I can't seem to do it most of the time.. lol i am not conflicted about how i feel about it. i do not like it, but i want to like it, but i cannot like it, but dislike that i do not like it. complicated much? lol. come on 21 show your face I love you, Anna! I really wanted VinCat to show a little more "love" towards each other before the normal drove them crazy. Maybe Catherine giving sleeping exhausted Vincent a kiss before she headed downstairs to look up crimes on her laptop. After all, he hadn't slept in a bed since the arrest and after (hopefully a night of togetherness) he would have been exhausted and a tender kiss on his forehead or cheek from his "wife" wouldn't have woken him up. Even spending some time in the same room would have helped. Where exactly was Catherine and her glass of wine while Vincent was channel surfing with beer in hand? I just thought we would have seen remnants of the sizzling couple from last week before all "suburbia" H took place.
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Post by evanarose on Jun 23, 2014 7:18:38 GMT -5
Alrighty so I just watched this episode for the 1st time and here are my thoughts:
- What's up with Vincent coming from behind, calling cats name and getting attacked? I mean come on! For one, this scene has been done before so it isn't effective...and another well you'd think cat would recognize Vincents voice by now lol! Or even so kinda tell its him by his footsteps..lol don't get me wrong I didn't mind watching that scenario the 1st time but more than that? Hmmm...although i give it to the writers batb has improved alot! And I'm freakin glad- the fact that i'm now back to rewatching means i got my beastie mojo back lol! I mean i was always a beastie but now really looking forward to the next episodes. - When Vincent offered Cat breaky and she said no! Gah i was like nooooo...what the heck cat?! Lol mainly coz i was thinking finally a dream scene with jay/Vincent cooking coming true! Darn it! I mean yeah its just breaky..it may have just been cornflakes but its the gesture that counts! Anyway I'm still waiting on that romantic dinner scene! - I loved there was alot of vincat this episode! Dunno if its just me but i felt the writers were going abit into the Lois and clark relationship dynamic kinda. They had their light disagreement which i could stand actually. Still i think instead of suburb area it would have been great to see them at some holiday location instead- the beach, paris lol! It's nice to see Vincent more happy or relaxed, like jay is contributing himself to the character more. At least from my vibe of seeing jay i think he is? - Tess and JT hmmm..you know i really loved the concept of him taking the role of batman! And although i can tell they really get on both on and off screen..i dunno maybe its just me can't put my finger on it, maybe coz they are really different it doesn't seem to click right lol. Like they got the chemistry as great buddies but romantically..maybe i need to warm up to it. Pity they didn't really follow on Heather from last episode talking more bout Vincent, even better have Heather and Vincent scenes but i guess there was really alot going on. Hopefully inn the next 2 episodes.
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Post by Windflwr on Jun 23, 2014 7:25:50 GMT -5
I really wanted VinCat to show a little more "love" towards each other before the normal drove them crazy. Maybe Catherine giving sleeping exhausted Vincent a kiss before she headed downstairs to look up crimes on her laptop. After all, he hadn't slept in a bed since the arrest and after (hopefully a night of togetherness) he would have been exhausted and a tender kiss on his forehead or cheek from his "wife" wouldn't have woken him up. Even spending some time in the same room would have helped. Where exactly was Catherine and her glass of wine while Vincent was channel surfing with beer in hand? I just thought we would have seen remnants of the sizzling couple from last week before all "suburbia" H took place. I agree! If they had given us that sweet scene, many of us would feel different about this ep. A missed opportunity when we have so few left.
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Post by feezya on Jun 23, 2014 7:34:02 GMT -5
Somehow this episode reminds me of Desperate Housewives And that's a compliment. Wont say its great, but it's not bad. not bad at all... i don't know what "filler episode" means but i think this episode still holds true to the "who am i" arc. since the very beginning Cat wanted "normal" but never really know what normal means. the very least she knows now it's not going away to the suburbia and pretending things are ok. Cat is true to herself - not ignoring her instinct and still helping others, even when Vincent was all over her about blowing their cover. The way he was mumbling to the fish about his situation… just like a poor little brat "Hate it when she's right…" Which also made him realise that he almost loose himself too in the chaos of having to run away from Gabe. And JT re-discover himself, who he is without Vincent. Thanks to Tess; how she redirects him and highlights his "powers" . "now give me a gummi. i like red actually. oh god…" Yup, the beauties are definitely the forces behind the beasts in this episode Gabe…. wow, Gabe is just spiralling, still thinking he's in the right??!! oh my, I am genuinely interested to know what he has up his sleeves. Soooo furious at him - wanting to expose the dungeon and everything in it… I wonder how the Fab4 will beat that??? Like almost everyone, i am complaining that VinCat didn't even try to take advantage of their suburbia situation to spend some quality time since they are ALWAYS interrupted. After all VinCat chemistry is a major factor in what makes Batb interesting…well, for me at least. But i'm discrediting it to the fact they have only 45 minutes of air time. And they are at the comfort zone now. I'm also going to make peace with the fact that we are not getting any AMP scenes EVER coz that time has definitely passed, a few times in fact unless it's during the flashback of the ancestors maybe But they are really cute as that suburb couple. They way he kissed her head (twice!!), he cuddled her when the neighbour came, refilling her coffee mug, calling her honey,"if i'm gonna be Barbie, you could at least be Ken"…. guess it's a glimpse of how VinCat will be like with children and dogs As long as there are lines like the ending, i'm truly happy.. "one thing i've learned is wherever we end up u gotta keep kicking ass. Thats not even true. oh yes it is, it's ok its who i fell in love with, its who u are, u never walked away from a fight or thing you believe in. its your normal" one question : what did Cat say right before Vincent said "I give up" in the kitchen?
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Post by kp definitely needs S3 on Jun 23, 2014 7:53:58 GMT -5
Somehow this episode reminds me of Desperate Housewives And that's a compliment. Wont say its great, but it's not bad. not bad at all... i don't know what "filler episode" means but i think this episode still holds true to the "who am i" arc. since the very beginning Cat wanted "normal" but never really know what normal means. the very least she knows now it's not going away to the suburbia and pretending things are ok. Cat is true to herself - not ignoring her instinct and still helping others, even when Vincent was all over her about blowing their cover. The way he was mumbling to the fish about his situation… just like a poor little brat "Hate it when she's right…" Which also made him realise that he almost loose himself too in the chaos of having to run away from Gabe. And JT re-discover himself, who he is without Vincent. Thanks to Tess; how she redirects him and highlights his "powers" . "now give me a gummi. i like red actually. oh god…" Yup, the beauties are definitely the forces behind the beasts in this episode Gabe…. wow, Gabe is just spiralling, still thinking he's in the right??!! oh my, I am genuinely interested to know what he has up his sleeves. Soooo furious at him - wanting to expose the dungeon and everything in it… I wonder how the Fab4 will beat that??? Like almost everyone, i am complaining that VinCat didn't even try to take advantage of their suburbia situation to spend some quality time since they are ALWAYS interrupted. After all VinCat chemistry is a major factor in what makes Batb interesting…well, for me at least. But i'm discrediting it to the fact they have only 45 minutes of air time. And they are at the comfort zone now. I'm also going to make peace with the fact that we are not getting any AMP scenes EVER coz that time has definitely passed, a few times in fact unless it's during the flashback of the ancestors maybe But they are really cute as that suburb couple. They way he kissed her head (twice!!), he cuddled her when the neighbour came, refilling her coffee mug, calling her honey,"if i'm gonna be Barbie, you could at least be Ken"…. guess it's a glimpse of how VinCat will be like with children and dogs As long as there are lines like the ending, i'm truly happy.. "one thing i've learned is wherever we end up u gotta keep kicking ass. Thats not even true. oh yes it is, it's ok its who i fell in love with, its who u are, u never walked away from a fight or thing you believe in. its your normal" one question : what did Cat say right before Vincent said "I give up" in the kitchen? I liked how you explained. Felt almost the same but for me it's harder to explain I wish I could too, but my lack of english knowledge always stays in the way. well done
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Post by raniamahd on Jun 23, 2014 7:54:31 GMT -5
I always make the joke of "You have to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time" - and this episode is a great example of the writers failing epically at it. the fact that they need to sacrifice quality, and completely drop the ball on continuity in order to prove the point that Catherine Chandler is not defined by love? Yes, *cough cough* I'm freaking aware of that point. I'm pretty sure I understood that when Catherine shot Vincent to prove the point that killing is morally wrong, effectively choosing justice over the love of her life. While the focus or message of this episode is important, the truth is that it didn't successfully resonate with me. it was sloppily written and executed and overall felt like a clumsy thick-fingered effort at best. Even the acting at times, felt off. And that is something I never EVER complain about with our wonderful cast. Anyway, I agree with you that it is not all about VinCat, I would just appreciate it if they could pull that off a bit more smoothly. well said dear and i couldn't agree more with the bold parts what proves than Catherine Chandler isn't identified by love or welling to loss herself or change who she really is even for love than shooting the love of your life to do the right thing and don't cross red line ?! one more question : where were all of that when she was with Gabe ? where was that independent , self confident , strongly identified by her nature woman when she acted like his obedient puppet ? just asking because Cat never took one second to doubt herself and how she felt and acted with him ? whether she is identified by her real self or by Gabe's orders ? even after she broke up with him ?!
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Post by shoe20 on Jun 23, 2014 7:55:14 GMT -5
Somehow this episode reminds me of Desperate Housewives And that's a compliment. Wont say its great, but it's not bad. not bad at all... i don't know what "filler episode" means but i think this episode still holds true to the "who am i" arc. since the very beginning Cat wanted "normal" but never really know what normal means. the very least she knows now it's not going away to the suburbia and pretending things are ok. Cat is true to herself - not ignoring her instinct and still helping others, even when Vincent was all over her about blowing their cover. The way he was mumbling to the fish about his situation… just like a poor little brat "Hate it when she's right…" Which also made him realise that he almost loose himself too in the chaos of having to run away from Gabe. And JT re-discover himself, who he is without Vincent. Thanks to Tess; how she redirects him and highlights his "powers" . "now give me a gummi. i like red actually. oh god…" Yup, the beauties are definitely the forces behind the beasts in this episode Gabe…. wow, Gabe is just spiralling, still thinking he's in the right??!! oh my, I am genuinely interested to know what he has up his sleeves. Soooo furious at him - wanting to expose the dungeon and everything in it… I wonder how the Fab4 will beat that??? Like almost everyone, i am complaining that VinCat didn't even try to take advantage of their suburbia situation to spend some quality time since they are ALWAYS interrupted. After all VinCat chemistry is a major factor in what makes Batb interesting…well, for me at least. But i'm discrediting it to the fact they have only 45 minutes of air time. And they are at the comfort zone now. I'm also going to make peace with the fact that we are not getting any AMP scenes EVER coz that time has definitely passed, a few times in fact unless it's during the flashback of the ancestors maybe But they are really cute as that suburb couple. They way he kissed her head (twice!!), he cuddled her when the neighbour came, refilling her coffee mug, calling her honey,"if i'm gonna be Barbie, you could at least be Ken"…. guess it's a glimpse of how VinCat will be like with children and dogs As long as there are lines like the ending, i'm truly happy.. "one thing i've learned is wherever we end up u gotta keep kicking ass. Thats not even true. oh yes it is, it's ok its who i fell in love with, its who u are, u never walked away from a fight or thing you believe in. its your normal" one question : what did Cat say right before Vincent said "I give up" in the kitchen? I've had time to think about the ep and this is what bugged me the most. No one around to interrupt them, so they interrupt themselves. LOL I did like the points you made about the characters being true to the "who I'm I?" arc of the season. As much as the simple solution to the "Gabe" problem is hard not to recongize.... it's just not something VinCat could live with. I realize this episode was written and filmed before the S3 announcement. Could the page help and tell me if 21 & 22 were too?
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Post by beastlybusiness on Jun 23, 2014 7:58:45 GMT -5
I can't figure out why the writers don't understand what we love and want in this show. Regardless that this is the Cw, the audience for this show is, for the most part, older than their typical viewers. Guess they aren't creative enough to think of better story lines. Too much bickering between C and V for me, and some immaturity on both their parts. I just expect more of their characters. And why did V keep asking her if she didn't sleep well? Doesn't he know? Should have been keeping her up, IMO. It is not even about what we like and love. Just write a good episode. Some of the non vincat s2 EPs did not have vimcat but were at least well written with good character portrayal. This ep. Portrayed the characters as caricatures. Cat, v, and Gabe. They did a decent job with jt and t though jt had a couple of dodgy lines. It annoyed me how cat from the min they entered suburbia was so unsettles. Not realistic. Maybe u get bored after a month not the same day. What is all that about. The jokes were too coarse and not smart enough plus repwtititve and v came across as a bit of a lad if u know what I mean. What was that initial fake bird shot about and then again cat knocking v off. Done already not realistic today I am afraid. What are the lessons learned at the end of the episode for vincat? What did they learn from all this..why did they act so out of character throughout. Why waste so much time on a silly case instead of focusing on do many other things u could be focusing on in ep 20 and u instead end up looking at the 'mythology' in 10 mins of 22 which is what will happen. End of review and rant lol I have been way too negative. I think it was totally unrealistic that Vincat would be acting like an old married couple and putting others before themselves at this particular point in time. If we put it in context, this is a couple that is fighting for their lives, fighting to stay together and desperate for some 'sleeping together' time. They would be loved up and holed up inside for days before coming up for air, let alone to get involved with police who would definitely be on the look out for Vincent! A real wasted opportunity there from the writers... Cue AMP2 Whole episode didn't really work for me because of this lack of character / plot continuity. It also feels like they've gone back to the procedural after the Sheckman case last week and the shooting case this week, which just emphasises that our beloved show still doesn't know what it's magic formula is. Personally, I think they should stick to one 'big bad' (Gabe/Biodad) and concentrate on getting the depth of plot and twists through that and the mythology. That's what I liked about the last few episodes of S1 where Gabe was building as a 'big bad' as well as Muirfield. It kept things moving quickly whereas this episode just didn't have that intensity that I expected given Vincent is an increasingly hunted man. That said, I did like some of the jokes and I loved the 'Come On, Kid' with KK's cute laugh at the end No matter how bad the story or the writing, the chemistry between JR and KK is always amazing.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 23, 2014 8:03:14 GMT -5
Somehow this episode reminds me of Desperate Housewives And that's a compliment. Wont say its great, but it's not bad. not bad at all... i don't know what "filler episode" means but i think this episode still holds true to the "who am i" arc. since the very beginning Cat wanted "normal" but never really know what normal means. the very least she knows now it's not going away to the suburbia and pretending things are ok. Cat is true to herself - not ignoring her instinct and still helping others, even when Vincent was all over her about blowing their cover. The way he was mumbling to the fish about his situation… just like a poor little brat "Hate it when she's right…" Which also made him realise that he almost loose himself too in the chaos of having to run away from Gabe. And JT re-discover himself, who he is without Vincent. Thanks to Tess; how she redirects him and highlights his "powers" . "now give me a gummi. i like red actually. oh god…" Yup, the beauties are definitely the forces behind the beasts in this episode Gabe…. wow, Gabe is just spiralling, still thinking he's in the right??!! oh my, I am genuinely interested to know what he has up his sleeves. Soooo furious at him - wanting to expose the dungeon and everything in it… I wonder how the Fab4 will beat that??? Like almost everyone, i am complaining that VinCat didn't even try to take advantage of their suburbia situation to spend some quality time since they are ALWAYS interrupted. After all VinCat chemistry is a major factor in what makes Batb interesting…well, for me at least. But i'm discrediting it to the fact they have only 45 minutes of air time. And they are at the comfort zone now. I'm also going to make peace with the fact that we are not getting any AMP scenes EVER coz that time has definitely passed, a few times in fact unless it's during the flashback of the ancestors maybe But they are really cute as that suburb couple. They way he kissed her head (twice!!), he cuddled her when the neighbour came, refilling her coffee mug, calling her honey,"if i'm gonna be Barbie, you could at least be Ken"…. guess it's a glimpse of how VinCat will be like with children and dogs As long as there are lines like the ending, i'm truly happy.. "one thing i've learned is wherever we end up u gotta keep kicking ass. Thats not even true. oh yes it is, it's ok its who i fell in love with, its who u are, u never walked away from a fight or thing you believe in. its your normal" one question : what did Cat say right before Vincent said "I give up" in the kitchen? I've had time to think about the ep and this is what bugged me the most. No one around to interrupt them, so they interrupt themselves. LOL I did like the points you made about the characters being true to the "who I'm I?" arc of the season. As much as the simple solution to the "Gabe" problem is hard not to recongize.... it's just not something VinCat could live with. I realize this episode was written and filmed before the S3 announcement. Could the page help and tell me if 21 & 22 were too? Yes as far as I am aware
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Post by shoe20 on Jun 23, 2014 8:12:46 GMT -5
I've had time to think about the ep and this is what bugged me the most. No one around to interrupt them, so they interrupt themselves. LOL I did like the points you made about the characters being true to the "who I'm I?" arc of the season. As much as the simple solution to the "Gabe" problem is hard not to recongize.... it's just not something VinCat could live with. I realize this episode was written and filmed before the S3 announcement. Could the page help and tell me if 21 & 22 were too? Yes as far as I am aware Thanks for that.... it will give me context for the next two eps and kinda lets me know where they were prepared to leave the series hanging.
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Post by jefferen on Jun 23, 2014 8:16:42 GMT -5
I have noticed that for some weird reason I never agree with this fandom haha. I was telling this to Katie. I'm actually shocked like you have no idea. I LIKE the episode A LOT. This is me in my head: "I like an episode of batb ". I honestly feel like crying as stupid as it sounds. You might not understand why but after spending so much time building this forum and promoting a show that I had these huge expectations. Hoping to be a big success. Just to end up not liking it. It's a big disappoint it for me. That's why I'm angry and feel like crying right now. I understand that you guys love it. Like I told Yolie once. The reason why you guys can continue loving it not matter what happened this season with all these characters is because you guys are really batb fans and I'm just a KK fan so I understand your passion for VinCat, why you wish every episode to be about them kissing, making out and saying that they are meant to be, that they are epic, etc. I get that. For me I wanted more. I understand Catherine and Vincent belong together, I have nothing against they ending up together. That's why it's called Beauty and the Beast. However I wanted a real story to be built with real background not just let's kiss and have sex just because we are meant to be. I wanted stories about the other characters because they are just as important as the main characters. For me it wasn't never about KK having more screen time. I just wanted a good show for more people to like it. Like I have nothing against the whole 20 beasts at the beginning of the season (i know they were less than 20 beast but it felt that way). I actually gave it a shot trying to understand the whole point of it but getting nothing at the end. I got to the point where I even dislike Cat. That's what like the worse for me for obvious reasons. That's why I am the way I am with this show. I know this only an episode and I don't expect anything from the show anymore. I just watch it because I want to see her act but tonight it really shocked me. Guys, I even LIKE Vincent . I didn't see it as a filter episode. I totally understood why it happened. When the episode began and they started talking about leaving. I thought: "again with the same talk". They even sounded like first season when they wanted to go and live in the country and all of that so I thought they were using the same plot. But then it got good. I enjoy VinCat, they were as real as they can be and I'm not talking about being this faking couple. I mean them trying to figure a way to stay together in the open. They were honest with each other like they used to be in the first episodes of season |. It was fun to watch. Both of them were so funny. When Cat was looking from the window and wanted to know more about the crime scene. That was hilarious. She just couldn't help herself . Then Vincent all mad because she didn't listen to him haha. Vincent talking to the fist. (That was a fish, right? I'm not sure haha). That part was hilarious Cat throwing the paper at the poor bird. Cat checking crimes online. They trying to pretend they were married in from of the neighbors. All of that was so funny. And one the things that I love about this episode. Yes, I love it. Because that's what I wanted to see. Like I said I understand it's VinCat and they are supposed to be the main thing of the show but what I hated about this season was that everything that matter was only Vincent getting protected not matter the consequences good or bad. But in this episode Catherine said something that I love. Something which made me love her in season 1 and this show too. This line: "We have to get involved. It's called justice. If we don't, then what are we, Vincent? We're just two people onn the run that only care about ourselves" It's true. That's how they were in season 1. From the pilot. Murfield was after Vincent but there was this woman that needed help. He didn't care and tried to save her not caring if he got caught. That was the show that I used to like. They can still love each other but still care about the rest of the world. I also like the JT and Tess. And believe me I don't want to like Tess (I won't say why because it has nothing to do with the show). But I did enjoy those 2 together. They were fun to watch 2. In all honestly they look better eating gummy worms than Vincent Gabe was awesome as the evil guy that is losing his head. He is getting crazier. The scene with those 3 was really good. Sadly I feel the way Gabe is acting will only end up with him getting killed. I don't want then to kill him because I really enjoy Sendhil as the evil guy but I'm sure most of you will be happy about it. I think the point of the episode and why for me it wasn't a filter episode is that they wanted to show if VinCat could be themselves pretending to have a normal life and it showed that they can't. They are not them if they do that. And also to show to the fans and to them that the rest of the world matter too. For the ones that dislike the episode, don't worry I'm sure next episode will have the vincat that you love . Thank You 4 posting. After reading everyone else is comments about the show I almost felt like crying, but your post made me smile and let it go, and just trust it when I watch and try to keep an open mind. Its the jaystin/vincat chemistry thats got me hooked, so as long as they dont completely ruin that I think I'll like the episode
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Post by chilly20 on Jun 23, 2014 8:27:11 GMT -5
Ok, I am disappointed. This is not what I expected, especially for an episode titled 'Ever After'. What exactly was the point of this episode?? Was it to show us that they can't work in suburbia or for Vincent to realize that Catherine will always be a cop, no matter where she goes. Catherine didn't even try. This is my biggest issue. She says she loves Vincent so much and would go anywhere to be with him and when the opportunity is presented, she makes no effort to hide the fact that she is miserable. What about Vincent? How is he Ok with his girlfriend not bothering to adapt at all? I mean he said it at the end that he doesn't know whether he can stay in NYC. So what does that mean? If he says, enough, I am living, she will go but not wholeheartedly? Is that the true love we are supposed to buy into? They spent their entire time in that house arguing? At one point, I even thought, one would walk out. It was ridiculous. This is not what I expected. The episode was all over the place. There was no coherence to it at all, at least in my opinion. They should have done better. By the way, what happened to Vincent? He was different this episode, he seemed very toned down, not capable of asserting himself.
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Post by jefferen on Jun 23, 2014 8:27:47 GMT -5
I stand by my opinion at half time. I liked it! If anyone wants, feel free to throw tomatoes at me. Just make sure they're nice ripe ones as that's how I like them!
I do have to disagree with those who say that Catherine & especially Vincent were out of character. This was the first time that they were completely out of their element. Vincent has been in hiding for 10 + years & he seemed to go with the flow more than Catherine. He tried to "stay in character as Tim" but I saw so many Vincent mannerisms. eg: talking to fish while eating cereal [remember the granola bar breakfast at JT's] & trusting Catherine's hunch about the neighbour's death. He just deals with things differently than Catherine. I feel she quickly realized that it's not that easy to abandon her life or herself & take on a different persona. No matter where you plant her, she will always be a cop! It's in her nature & she cannot leave things be. If she feels there is a wrong, she has to correct it. Because they truly love each other, given time [& no murdered neighbour] they could build a new life in a new place!
I really liked the JTnT segment! After 10 years of JT being joined to Vincent's hip, I expected him to have a difficult adjustment! Tess showed understanding & sympathy for his feelings & with kindness helped him come out of Vincent's shadow. I feel they both realized how fortunate they both are to have each other. And how they complete each other!
IMO, this was not a filler episode! It continued the "Who am I" theme of this year, for Vincat & JTnT. As such, I really enjoyed this episode. Yes, I would have liked to see some Vincat loving but I can't always get what I want! And I got other good stuff that I wasn't expecting. Back to the Rainbows & Unicorns!
It also brings up the idea that at the beginning she wanted 'normal' and then realized that the life she called normal was in fact her 'un normal' cause the life of being a cop, protecting Vincent, hiding him, living on the edge is her 'normal' and that's the life NO MATTER HOW bizarre,dangerous and hectic is the life she wants. Agree! Amen! Thank You!!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Jun 23, 2014 8:44:01 GMT -5
I really wanted VinCat to show a little more "love" towards each other before the normal drove them crazy. Maybe Catherine giving sleeping exhausted Vincent a kiss before she headed downstairs to look up crimes on her laptop. After all, he hadn't slept in a bed since the arrest and after (hopefully a night of togetherness) he would have been exhausted and a tender kiss on his forehead or cheek from his "wife" wouldn't have woken him up. Even spending some time in the same room would have helped. Where exactly was Catherine and her glass of wine while Vincent was channel surfing with beer in hand? I just thought we would have seen remnants of the sizzling couple from last week before all "suburbia" H took place. I agree! If they had given us that sweet scene, many of us would feel different about this ep. A missed opportunity when we have so few left. As far as I'm concerned, this is a lack of attention to detail and continuity problem, and it is one of the main reasons why this episode doesn't work... Why in the world would you choose to blaze ahead with one major plot or character point, without choosing to tie up the other loose ends? It's sloppy, plain and simple, and gives the feeling that clumsy attention to detail reigns supreme. And it kind of gives the viewers a case of whiplash, where we are looking back at VinCat, when we should be looking forward to Catherine. Writers who know what they are doing, know how to guide you in the direction of the main character and story points. Instead of doing that successfully, half of us are still talking about why they didn't finish what they started last week. Is it our fault for missing the point, or their fault for failing to lead us in the direction of it fully? It's the reason why most of the VinCat dialogue inside the house feels rather juvenile and/or self-focused or shallow. Is it really? Probably not, but seen through the rose colored glasses of an audience that expected them to finish what they started in Cold Case, it was like coming to an abrupt halt in the midst of a roller coaster ride. I also feel like the "who am I" character arc, intersecting with Catherine begins to feel like an after thought that they put off in favor of a bunch of undesirable love triangles earlier in S2. But then again, if she really had a clear idea of herself going into the whole thing with Gabe, not much of that storyline would have even worked would it? Especially the parts where he kept telling her what to do or bending her to his will. Funny, I felt pretty clear about Catherine in S1, it seems TPTB and the writers took more than a little "artistic liberty" with her character in favor of pushing their own agenda. Convenient that it is important to do a Catherine-centric character arc right about now. I said "long overdue" before, but the truth is that it just wasn't convenient to have her be a strong character for the rest of the season.
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