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Post by oa on Feb 20, 2013 0:12:05 GMT -5
That is why he is such a freaking great actor!!!!
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Post by senora kent on Feb 20, 2013 6:34:59 GMT -5
hello everyone. im new here. i did posted message using my Twitter but somehow it didnt ended up here..? or was the comment meant to be approved first? anyway here i am as a new member on the forum to share my thoughts after Cold Turkey episode which of course related with the latest episode (well actually all episodes that Alex was in you know). so i truly think Catherine is the second choice and here's the reasons that i manage to grasp:
Why Catherine is Vincent's second choice after all:
~Vincent said these exact words to Alex when they were in the woods: “Okay, I-I just wanted to go away with you. You know, somewhere peaceful where we could help people.” ~And he also said he wants to do it (about leaving with Alex and start a life with her) when they were in the cabin. ~Another point is that he was discussing about moving forward with Alex when they were in a car on the way to the cabin. ~He said something along the lines “I know that i can’t be with someone who doesn’t accept everything about me” Alex doesn’t accept him. So that’s why he came back to Catherine.
And i was just wanna freaking push him off the fire escape when he immediately crawled his ass back to Catherine after his ex couldn’t accept his beast part. I hope to God Catherine would give him a very hard time and not just accept him on next week episode (meaning Trust No One). (well actually just don’t accept him at all)
I want Catherine to get with Evan more than ever now. They are my second ship from this show. Evan can actually treat her right. (and dont kill me for this comment eh)
And ugh thanks to the writers who has ruined my flawless OTP and turn the epic love story of Beauty & The Beast to a complete joke within 4 episodes. Now im just gonna watch episodes 1 to 9 and pretend the nightmares that are episodes 10 until now didn’t happen at all.
p/s: i know im pretty late with the whole choices thing but i just got here and i need to let it out. anyone who can give me a good arguments on how Catherine is his choice is very much welcome. you know my shipper heart is shattered because of this whole ridiculous and unnecessary triangle. i dont get the OTP vibes from them anymore and its all because of the writers. sigh...
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Post by wenniez1 on Feb 20, 2013 6:41:48 GMT -5
That last scene was just SEX! LOL Yeah Vincent wanted it badly LOL As did Cat! Man I don't know how after that they can keep there hands (or other body parts) away from each other! When he said "Totally" it was orgasmic! That look on his face priceless! I felt the same...He is such a good actor. I believed what he said. If there's no touching bodyparts anytime soon, I'll go crazy... ;D
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Post by hcastro on Feb 20, 2013 11:33:53 GMT -5
hello everyone. im new here. i did posted message using my Twitter but somehow it didnt ended up here..? or was the comment meant to be approved first? anyway here i am as a new member on the forum to share my thoughts after Cold Turkey episode which of course related with the latest episode (well actually all episodes that Alex was in you know). so i truly think Catherine is the second choice and here's the reasons that i manage to grasp: Why Catherine is Vincent's second choice after all: ~Vincent said these exact words to Alex when they were in the woods: “Okay, I- I just wanted to go away with you. You know, somewhere peaceful where we could help people.” ~And he also said he wants to do it (about leaving with Alex and start a life with her) when they were in the cabin. ~Another point is that he was discussing about moving forward with Alex when they were in a car on the way to the cabin. ~He said something along the lines “I know that i can’t be with someone who doesn’t accept everything about me” Alex doesn’t accept him. So that’s why he came back to Catherine. And i was just wanna freaking push him off the fire escape when he immediately crawled his ass back to Catherine after his ex couldn’t accept his beast part. I hope to God Catherine would give him a very hard time and not just accept him on next week episode (meaning Trust No One). (well actually just don’t accept him at all)I want Catherine to get with Evan more than ever now. They are my second ship from this show. Evan can actually treat her right. (and dont kill me for this comment eh) And ugh thanks to the writers who has ruined my flawless OTP and turn the epic love story of Beauty & The Beast to a complete joke within 4 episodes. Now im just gonna watch episodes 1 to 9 and pretend the nightmares that are episodes 10 until now didn’t happen at all. p/s: i know im pretty late with the whole choices thing but i just got here and i need to let it out. anyone who can give me a good arguments on how Catherine is his choice is very much welcome. you know my shipper heart is shattered because of this whole ridiculous and unnecessary triangle. i dont get the OTP vibes from them anymore and its all because of the writers. sigh... I don't think the writers managed to get the "Catherine is second choice" out of my mind either. I don't like the excuse that "Vincent always does the right thing"....so, Vincent tried to make it work with Alex in order to make it up to her for leaving her while actually considering leaving Catherine forever to live a normal life. So...the right thing according to this scenario has Vincent going off to who knows where to live a loveless life with Alex and leaving his true love...um, what!? I also agree with the lack of Vincent apologies..I mean, he did apologize but I guess I was expecting more too. And plus, with that near kiss at the end and Catherine saying "I can trust you will do the right thing...that's what Alex was wasn't she"? You can pretty much say that she has forgiven Vincent already which is too bad..I wanted to see more of Vincent making it up to her. Thing is though, I think the show is moving in a such a different direction after this triangle BS...they needed to speed up the VinCat reconciliation which is why I feel the Ex's S/L was way too long...her arc should've wrapped up in 2 episodes max instead of dragging it out. Vincent made some headway with me in the last episode...hopefully we'll see more of that because like you, I'm not that satisfied with the conclusion of this triangle mess.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Feb 20, 2013 12:48:26 GMT -5
Welcome senora kent! I feel like you do......I still can't shake the "what ifs" about Vincent and Alex. What IF she had accepted Vincent......would he have gone with her to Mexico or wherever? I don't think that Vincent disputed that question when Cat asked him? The "second choice" scenario is still hovering over this whole episode and I can't shake it. I don't think the writers managed to get the "Catherine is second choice" out of my mind either. I don't like the excuse that "Vincent always does the right thing"....so, Vincent tried to make it work with Alex in order to make it up to her for leaving her while actually considering leaving Catherine forever to live a normal life. So...the right thing according to this scenario has Vincent going off to who knows where to live a loveless life with Alex and leaving his true love...um, what!? .........I'm not that satisfied with the conclusion of this triangle mess. Exactly!! (as always I know the almost kiss was sexy and seductive and I am a sucker for that kind of stuff, but it still doesn't satisfy me on a third viewing of the episode. I find myself being critical of the episode at first viewing.......because what I hope/expected didn't happen. So I try to wait and watch it the next day to look for things I missed or didn't fully comprehend. So on this third viewing, I am still bothered by the REAL reason Vincent wanted to reunite and run off with Alex. The writer's can't really have it one way first, then another way later.........or if it is a combination of the two, then they need to make the case. When Cat mentions to Vincent about "the last few WEEKS......"??..........I have to wonder, how much of that time was Vincent spending time with Alex? And if so, what were they doing? Obviously, Vinny wasn't with Cat solving cases.........I know I am looking too much into this, but the time element was enough to cause Cat some heartache and would have drove me crazy wondering about the time Valex were spending with each other. If Vince and Alex had a couple of weeks together, ...then the whole romantic getaway, was them really moving forward and doesn't really convince me that Vinny was really just trying to do the "right thing".......he was feeling out the Alex Option, and obviously he gave Alex some indication of rekindling the love, because she bought the lingerie. In hind sight, Alex wasn't really shown to be crazy, IMO. She was picking up where they, as an engaged couple, left off and in those few "weeks", Vinny didn't discourage that. The "do the Right Thing" is interesting...........Alex says that to Catherine at the warehouse. Then Catherine says this twice in the end scene....... Alex....."Because Vince always does the 'right thing'...like making up for leaving me..." Catherine, "......I will never be let down by you trying to help somebody....That's what I can Trust, that you'll do the 'right thing'.Catherine, "... and see how I could Trust whether you'd be there or not...Turns out that I can Trust that you'll do the 'right thing'!" I think that the 'right thing' scenario will come to play in the next few episodes. The spoilers ahead will put Catherine to the test of Trusting Vincent to do the Right Thing.......I think she will need that belief in him. Just a side note: There was an interview from Jay (I believe?) that mentioned that Vincent went through a very dark period after his brothers died and Vincent had a problem with drugs and Alex helped him through it? I can't find it but did anyone else see that? Then in the warehouse Alex says to Cat: "I took care of Vince for a long time and I get that is your "job" now...and you are good at it , really really good. I can see why he trusts you so much."...Alex. I guess I picked up on this because, it makes mention of Alex "taking care" of Vince..........then she alludes to her STILL THINKING that CAT IS VINCENT'S HANDLER?? I don't know, this rubbed me the wrong way, in that Vincent didn't really tell Alex who Catherine really is .....even after Cat telling Alex that her mother made Vincent into a beast? I felt there was a lot of stuff still left unsaid and explained before sending Alex off into anonymity. I dread the thought of bringing Alex back to be another wedge between Cat and Vincent........or a pawn for Vincent to going after her again. Overall, I did love this episode........all the new story lines are going to add to the drama and intrigue. At least I am excited about the future episodes and not dreading something. Heather's response to catching VinCat in the almost kiss was P-R-I-C-E-L-E-S-S!! I get the biggest laugh each time I see it! Well done Nicole!
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Post by oa on Feb 20, 2013 14:19:24 GMT -5
she looks like her face is going to crack biggest at that super big grin! i dont know but she reminds me of a cartoon character that I dont know the name of! lol! me and my imagination!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 20, 2013 15:28:07 GMT -5
I feel like the entire Alex-Vincent story arc was pseudo-misrepresented by bad editing. It seems very possible that they cut the parts where their past history is explained in such a way that we realize why he felt like he owed her or needed to "do the right thing" by going back to her. That much, at least, would explain his sense of duty or obligation to her. This would not excuse the way he treated Catherine through it all, but it would have helped clarify his motives. The other problem is that they kind of copped out by having him say that the whole thing was never about Alex to begin with. Well then, how was he trying to "do the right thing"? There was definite incongruence at times between what he was doing, and what he was saying, or choices he made, things he said, vs what he says later. I tend to blame that on editing more than poor character development, but generally I tend to agree that the Alex-Vincent storyline went too far, and whatever feelings he may have had about leaving Catherine were edited out, or nonexistent. The whole thing is just kind of a mess, but he did try pretty hard to rectify the situation... I would venture a guess that there's more of that still coming... but we shall see :-)
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Post by curly on Feb 20, 2013 15:31:46 GMT -5
I hear ya suzieq - -My problem with some of these episodes including this one is the dialogue. Its seems inconsistent from 1 episode to the next. I think sometimes it would just be easier if they spell it out. A lot of it leaves you like huh or wanting a better explanation. I think if they were too specific all the times there would be no angst and would probably box themselves in in terms or some story arcs. Better to leave unsaid because then you don't have to correct. It's probably because there are different writer from 1 to the next.. What I got from this episode was that Vincent probably out of insecurity does not believe or trust the Cat sees him as a person but only as different. He realizes that this isn't true when Alex questions Cats acceptance 2x and he is forced to say that she would accept him either way. Even though Cat said he was the same guy to Alex the previous episode and even said she accepted all that he was in Bridesmaid up" but that is what I mean by inconsistent. Then Cat can't trust that he believes her because after all that he is running around with Alex pretending he doesn't have this other side. I think the handler and 2nd choice thing was gone when Alex realized that Vincent loves Cat and tells her as much. That was the truth and Cat knows it. She let Cat into a little bit of how Vincent operates. I think what was important. It doesn't erase what Cat felt about what he did but explains his motives especially if he doesn't want Cat to have to continue to live like he has forced her to in a way. However, I am waiting for the other shoe to drop on this past drug use thing. Ive said this a few times but it is hanging out there and hasn't been nibbled on yet. I expect it to be relevant at some point. Im just afraid that if Vincat have their on and offs in their relationship than we will be forced to see Catherine has his handler because she will be.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Feb 20, 2013 15:56:05 GMT -5
I feel like the entire Alex-Vincent story arc was pseudo-misrepresented by bad editing. It seems very possible that they cut the parts where their past history is explained in such a way that we realize why he felt like he owed her or needed to "do the right thing" by going back to her. That much, at least, would explain his sense of duty or obligation to her. This would not excuse the way he treated Catherine through it all, but it would have helped clarify his motives. Great points. Since we did get some of the background of Vince/Alex in an old interview,...(the drug use).....that aspect of their history didn't get a mention. And I think it would of given us some insight on why he wasn't going to go with Alex "happily"....but, yes, more as a sense of duty. You are right this obligation to her may come into play at a future time. Hopefully, it won't be at a time that VinCat are having issues as all couples do! * I say that with tongue in cheek. I hear ya suzieq - -My problem with some of these episodes including this one is the dialogue. Its seems inconsistent from 1 episode to the next. I think sometimes it would just be easier if they spell it out. A lot of it leaves you like huh or wanting a better explanation. I think if they were too specific all the times there would be no angst and would probably box themselves in in terms or some story arcs. Better to leave unsaid because then you don't have to correct. It's probably because there are different writer from 1 to the next.. Another great point. BaTB does have many different writers and I think overall they do a great job with writing everyone consistently, that is why Vincent had a major personality change when Alex came into the picture. I think the writer's wanted to show us a glimpse of how Vincent was before the experiments. They did show how close he and Alex were and that is why it was believable that he would go off with her and drop Cat. It is scary and unsettling to know that he would do that, and Catherine was deeply hurt and we hurt for her. Then to bring in the "right thing" reason, is still unclear. But you are right, sometimes you have to leave things a bit open especially if they want to bring that character back again. I think it also shows that Cat not only said the words of acceptance to Vincent, Cat showed that she would still protect him, even when he 'rejected' her. Cat didn't abandon him or the ex. If that doesn't prove her love and acceptance of him, I think he would be a blind fool. Yep,.....and that would be another dramatic test for our ship to go through. You all had some great perspectives today! I guess we are patiently waiting for new news, that we are analyzing and reanalyzing the last 4 episodes.....
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Post by vincerine on Feb 20, 2013 23:17:17 GMT -5
I feel like the entire Alex-Vincent story arc was pseudo-misrepresented by bad editing. It seems very possible that they cut the parts where their past history is explained in such a way that we realize why he felt like he owed her or needed to "do the right thing" by going back to her. That much, at least, would explain his sense of duty or obligation to her. This would not excuse the way he treated Catherine through it all, but it would have helped clarify his motives. The other problem is that they kind of copped out by having him say that the whole thing was never about Alex to begin with. Well then, how was he trying to "do the right thing"? There was definite incongruence at times between what he was doing, and what he was saying, or choices he made, things he said, vs what he says later. I tend to blame that on editing more than poor character development, but generally I tend to agree that the Alex-Vincent storyline went too far, and whatever feelings he may have had about leaving Catherine were edited out, or nonexistent. The whole thing is just kind of a mess, but he did try pretty hard to rectify the situation... I would venture a guess that there's more of that still coming... but we shall see :-) I think this is a good point that maybe part of the back story of V&A is missing here, at least to audience. As a girl, I was pretty upset about what V did to C about the whole "Alex" thing, but as a person, or as a "damaged person", I can understand or "justify" why he did this. Here are the reasons: 1) There are some common sense in relationships to "normal people" such as "you cannot just dump your new girl friend when you run into your ex", that is why we are so upset about V because He is the guardian angel for C and also saved some other people as a "invisible" hero. He was not supposed to do what a jerk boy friend can do to C. However, unfortunately, he is not a "normal" guy. He has hidden in the dark for ten years with the beast in his body, and he cannot have any normal relationships with others except with JT. It is impossible to expect he can make decisions as "rational" as a normal guy again, because he was already damaged and twisted by the tragic experiment and hunting days. This part of him did not show in the first 9 episodes quite explicitly without running into his past in person that he cannot erase. We knew from his talk with JT that he did not go to see Alex at all ever since his tragedy and he actually justified that because he thought Alex was supposed to move on already and have a good husband and happy life. But the moment he saw A called his name in the crowd crazily, he knew A did not move on as he expected, the hurt he caused was still there, he felt the guilt so he showed up in her car and tried to give her a reasonable explanation as he could and ask her to move on. I suppose it was his idea at first, but the reality was far from that easy. When he tried to do the "right thing" to explain to his ex, all that he tried not to recall in the past ten years that who he used to be came back right to his mind, and that is the source of all his proceeding "irrational" behaviors such as spending time with Alex without telling her the truth. Like he told JT, he totally changed C's life after he told her the secret and he felt he made one more person to take all this baggage and risk for him besides JT, which he cannot change any more. But when he saw Alex had no idea what he is now and treats him just as he was still the unchanged "Vincent", he enjoyed it and felt that he did not burden one more person. For a normal guy, it should not take long for him to realize that it was just a fantasy which would lead to no good because he can never go back to his old life with Alex. But he is not "normal" any more, such a fantasy to go back to the life that he could have had if he was not enlisted, is like a drug for him and makes him be ridiculously convinced that it could be true for a moment. All his memory with Catherine, as good as it is, was after he became the "half-and-half". It was a blessing for him that C never cares that he is the "half-and-half", but he hates it and can never change that fact that the women he loves now knows what he is from the beginning which hurts him, even just occasionally. The feeling of the fantasy, even though he may be aware subconsciously that it was no good and ridiculous, he still wanted to hold on to it and lie to himself that it was possible. Hence, as we see after C saved his ass from the police officers, how he behave and justified himself was so unreasonable to C. He was so "high" in his fantasy that he acted like a jerk without considering the feelings of the woman who is loving and protecting him. Addicts are usually irrational without realizing it, in this case V was addicted to the fantasy Alex gave him. 2) Apart from the "irrational" reason, another key word here is "choice". Since he became the "half-and-half", he has been a man without any choice but hiding. Catherine, despite the damage of witnessing her mother's death, literally still has choices in her life such as which guy to date, which job she wants, etc, but Vince has no choice. Technically speaking, before he ran into Alex again he did not even have choice to choose another woman other than C. What he could choose was only "love or not to love" Catherine, but actually he cannot help being in love with her. However, the appearance of Alex, as annoying as it is to us, represents another possibility in his life. It is not necessarily "the right thing", but it still feels good to have another option in his life that he can think about, or fantasize about. Probably a lot of you may believe I am unreasonably justifying the V's "being a jerk" thing, but a least the two reasons make sense to me. The most convincing reason he decided to leave with Alex, in my opinion, was really not about which woman he loves most, but about it looks like he can choose his future like a normal person again: being here with Catherine with JT and her protection, or leaving with Alex for normal life that he used to want? No doubt at this moment, he was quite selfish and ignoring how he broke C's heart. But again, it would not be easy for anyone to live for ten years like him, lonely, damaged, painful and self-loathing every minute. He was really being a selfish jerk to Catherine and I disliked that as much as you guys do, but I understand some reasons why he did that. Once again, Vincent is a good person, but not necessarily a perfect guy/boyfriend for a girl, he got his issues that he cannot overcome. We all want what V and C have is perfect, pure and epic love, but there is a reason why their love is so epic in the end. It is not because once they meet and "bang" they are in love with each other forever without any issues or difficulties that those "common couples" have, but because it is so hard for them to have a normal relationship as those "common couples" do, with both normal couples' problems (trust issues) and their abnormal issues (the beast thing), and in the end they still go through all of them and believe they belong with each other. That is why "beauty and the beast" is so attractive to us. I am not sure whether I explain my points clearly with my crappy English. Hopefully, you guys give me some feedback to my first reply here.
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Post by hcastro on Feb 21, 2013 1:20:49 GMT -5
You're not the only one who is bothered!! I still can't buy the "Vincent was trying to do the right thing" excuse that the writers came up with. His actions and how much they hurt Catherine don't correlate to him trying to do the right thing. It just doesn't make much sense to me. I also agree with you that Vincent was definitely feeling out the Alex option like someone on the show "The Bachelor" would do, lol. That ultimatum he gave her was proof of that. So, that excuse that he was just trying to do the right thing doesn't fly with me. One thing we know for sure is that this triangle mess was poorly executed. I also think some scenes may have been cut as well....Notice in the beginning of this episode there is a voice over of Cat saying "Why didn't you tell me you were engaged"? That was never in any of the episodes and I soooo would have liked to have heard what Vincent's response would've been. It seems to me the writers retconned a lot of things with this Alex stuff. Vincent himself says he wanted to take off with Alex up until she rejected him...now we're supposed to believe he didn't really intend to do so..ok, whatever.
Agree with this as well. There was a major point of emphasis on that and I think that will play out in the upcoming episodes starting with the next one when Vincent kills Darius. Funny how that didn't happen when the writers kept calling Catherine Vincent's handler. That handler word was used so many times I was certain they would address that issue with the conclusion of Alex's arc, but it wasn't. Which brings me to the other point, Vincent NEVER tells Alex that Catherine isn't his handler which bugs me too. Vincent never had that talk with Alex explaining his feelings for Catherine which also kinda irks me as well. I mean it's good that Alex realizes herself that Vincent loves Catherine, but I would have liked to have heard Vincent address not only the handler comment but his true feelings for Catherine...as Milo says.."missed opportunity". I generally love the writing for this show, but this arc was a bit of a fail for me. Too many inconsistencies and too much ooc behavior from Vincent. I'm happy that that this arc is over though and we can move on.
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Post by senora kent on Feb 21, 2013 5:20:07 GMT -5
hcastro
exactly. he looks like he's ready to flee with Alex and leave Cat behind. didn't that tell us something there? you know for the whole choices part. and agreed with the whole excuse of 'doing the right thing'. its like there's more to explain than just trying to convince us by making that lines repeatedly said by Alex and Cat. and again im so with you with the fact that Cat seems pretty much has forgiven him. i mean cmon. it cannot be that easy ok. where's the groveling really? i mean if this was not a Valentine's episode i seriously dont know what kind of groveling Vincent would do, if he would.
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Post by senora kent on Feb 21, 2013 5:34:39 GMT -5
suzieq
hello there again! and thank you!
truthfully, this whole choices thing will hunt my shipper heart forever. the writers really need to clear this one up soon. and you know the thing about this triangle that is such a mess is because its came out of nowhere. of course i know that Vincent has a past life before episode 10 starts but this was totally not on my mind you know. its like for the sake of this triangle, they make episode 1 to 9 like didnt exist you know. no continuity whatsoever. for the whole 9 years or so Vincent was believe to have been watching over Cat. but at the same time, now he has an ex-fiancee that he also watches over?? so Vincent was like a creepy stalker who secretly watching Cat from time to time? i mean if he only watches over one woman, that is understandable in a sense that he might be attracted to her but this?? eh nevermind. so many other loopholes anyway. like WTH was he thinking to basically show himself up to Alex after all this time, knowing that he and Cat is in the middle of moving forward.
well switching gears, im one of the people who doesn't want VinCat to kiss in this episode. but then when i was watching that scene, i cant help but fangirl and yelled HEATHER! right away when she cockblocked them lol. i mean the way he basically cornered her with that sexy voice is just damn!
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Feb 21, 2013 10:10:46 GMT -5
Once again, Vincent is a good person, but not necessarily a perfect guy/boyfriend for a girl, he got his issues that he cannot overcome. We all want what V and C have is perfect, pure and epic love, but there is a reason why their love is so epic in the end. It is not because once they meet and "bang" they are in love with each other forever without any issues or difficulties that those "common couples" have, but because it is so hard for them to have a normal relationship as those "common couples" do, with both normal couples' problems (trust issues) and their abnormal issues (the beast thing), and in the end they still go through all of them and believe they belong with each other. That is why "beauty and the beast" is so attractive to us. I am not sure whether I explain my points clearly with my crappy English. Hopefully, you guys give me some feedback to my first reply here. First, Welcome, vincerine! For someone who thinks they have "crappy English" you did a wonderful, concise explanation of why you think Vincent acted the way he did. I can certainly agree with many of those points and sympathize with his desires for normalcy. I liked what you said about Vincent and Catherine and why we all see their relationship as that "epic" lovestory. I think, once Vincent realized that everything was just a 'fantasy' for him, I would of liked to hear more from Vincent of what Catherine means to him!! I don't remember for some reason, but did Vincent ever say the words "I'm sorry" to Catherine?? He said "I'm sorry" to Alex twice in the warehouse......but did he say he was really sorry to Catherine. Vincent said "thank you" to Catherine several times, but I just can't remember the "I'm sorry or forgive me?" I also think some scenes may have been cut as well....Notice in the beginning of this episode there is a voice over of Cat saying "Why didn't you tell me you were engaged"? That was never in any of the episodes and I soooo would have liked to have heard what Vincent's response would've been. It seems to me the writers retconned a lot of things with this Alex stuff. Vincent himself says he wanted to take off with Alex up until she rejected him...now we're supposed to believe he didn't really intend to do so..ok, whatever. hcastro,....this is bugging me....where was the voiceover of Cat saying "why didn't you tell me you were engaged"?? Was it in a promo? I missed that. Wow, I would have loved to hear what Vincent's response was too. See, ....I think so much was edited out about Vincent's feelings about Cat to Alex. He really didn't said much of what Cat means to him, except that "Cat accepts who I am, that is why I trust her." Again, the "handler" title was not really demolished for me. I think all this sruff will come back again whenever Alex makes another appearance.
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Post by hcastro on Feb 21, 2013 11:51:49 GMT -5
That voice over was during the "Nine years ago" segment, the previouslies if you will. Watch from the beginning and you will hear Cat say that...again, just like the promos at times, lines are cut and it really BUGS me!!! Aargh...also, notice that we never got that scene where Cat says something along the lines of "How do I know you will catch me when I fall?"...they were sitting in the warehouse and that was in the promo/extended promo I believe. I really think a lot of scenes were cut during this Alex arc, probably significant ones too which would have helped make Vincent's choices/actions clear to the viewer. Ewww, I'm also thinking maybe some Vincent/Alex scenes may have been cut too...what if some of those scenes were WORSE than what we got..I don't even think I want to ponder that one.
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