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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Mar 10, 2015 17:09:44 GMT -5
Hey all! Are we still on for the re-watch tonight (Tuesday) at 9 p.m. (US eastern time)?
And just to make sure we are all on the same timeclock, in the US, we just had Daylight Savings time this past Sunday which means that we moved the clocks FORWARD one hour.
I hope others will join me! This is such a GREAT episode (at least, in this viewer's humble opinion) as it provides that beautiful VinCat First Dance at her father's wedding! (And she is just so looking into the very depths of his soul in that scene. . . . sigh.Swoon.Drool on computer--and it is my work computer at that. And Vincent in his suit. JustDead.)
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Mar 10, 2015 20:05:00 GMT -5
Hey, anyone out there? I am fine with rescheduling for a time when others can watch. This is too good an episode to watch alone!
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Mar 10, 2015 20:16:18 GMT -5
Let's reschedule for a time when more people can watch. Besides, I just saw the "Ancestors" missing clip with Vincent and Tori AND the Vincent and Tori in bed together moment from "Recipe For Disaster." As I now am SERIOUSLY damaged and scarred for life, I must go find SOMETHING chocolate and drown myself in it. I will have nightmares tonight, I know it! That was just WRONG. Thank ALL that is good and precious in this world that THOSE deleted scenes never made it to air.
(Will still watch Bridesmaid Up tonight from comfort of my home. Need it to get the above horrible images out of my head!)
Someone post a good time to watch this episode for us in this thread!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Mar 10, 2015 20:19:03 GMT -5
I'm here...love this episode. The bedroom scene cat telling him she wished he could go was sweet and heartbreaking...
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Mar 10, 2015 20:21:10 GMT -5
I think the idea of trying to please her and wanting to was evident. He so wanted to go with her. Zalanski Lol ..then we'll V trying to find away
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Mar 10, 2015 20:22:30 GMT -5
Love the jt and V interaction. Hit me LOL
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Mar 10, 2015 20:32:21 GMT -5
LOVE the interactions in this episode from everyone. The I'm your boyfriend now line and I can handle being Vincent Zalanski forever are one of my favorite lines. Love the way he looks at her when she comes out with the dress.Love the way he puts the necklace around her neck
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Mar 10, 2015 20:35:10 GMT -5
The crime of the week was a bit lame for me..I think the interaction with Cat and Mr.Chandler was very moving.
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Post by jefferen on Mar 10, 2015 22:29:32 GMT -5
Sorry I missed the rewatch! I totally forgot that it was changed to tuesday. It is such a great episode! I'll try to post some thoughts tomorrow
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Post by jefferen on Mar 10, 2015 22:38:17 GMT -5
Let's reschedule for a time when more people can watch. Besides, I just saw the "Ancestors" missing clip with Vincent and Tori AND the Vincent and Tori in bed together moment from "Recipe For Disaster." As I now am SERIOUSLY damaged and scarred for life, I must go find SOMETHING chocolate and drown myself in it. I will have nightmares tonight, I know it! That was just WRONG. Thank ALL that is good and precious in this world that THOSE deleted scenes never made it to air. (Will still watch Bridesmaid Up tonight from comfort of my home. Need it to get the above horrible images out of my head!) Someone post a good time to watch this episode for us in this thread! Omg! The Vincent and Tori deleted scenes definitely scarred me! I almost feel like if those deleted scenes were actually in the episode I think that would've put that show into the ground that would've been the final nail in the coffin. What annoyed me the most about it was that Vincent kissed Tori. If I didn't detest The vincent & Tori relationship so much I would actually say that that kiss was pretty hot. (Excuse me while I go wash my mouth out) anyway the other thing that annoyed me was we got 22 episodes of season two and we did not get a VinCat kiss like that at all this season. with the exception of a few kisses between VinCat this season most of the kisses were just pecks. And the way that v grabbed a toy to kiss her when he was coming in the door ughh...,,he's never done that the cat. Ughhhh lol. Okay I'm done venting now. Lol
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Mar 10, 2015 23:48:08 GMT -5
The day I first saw this episode my heart skipped a beat when they first danced, the look they gave each other UNTIL this day still makes me a pudlle of goo. ..and to think that things would change for the next 4 episodes after that was cruel LOL The song was perfect for the moment, also Wherever You Will Go is still one of my top all time favorites. Vincent with a suit? LOL That's the other thing about the moment, all cleaned up and suited up! YUMMY
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Mar 10, 2015 23:50:23 GMT -5
The accident and him caling out to her to help her out was.. .. He had no choice but to BEAST OUT to be able to get her out of that car. The way he softly heald her and watched her in his arms was BEAUTIFUL! He cradled her close to him, even in BEAST mode his love for her was evident. I say that not only does the HUMAN loves her but ALSO the BEAST, I know they are one ad the same BUT the awe of it is BEAUTIFUL
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Post by sweetrosie29 on Mar 11, 2015 0:24:13 GMT -5
From the first time of seeing this episode it has and still is my favorite episode if the whole show no matter how many season's we get I love it and all the scenes between Vincat were just the dance then and even now no matter how many times i watch it still truthfully gives me a flutter in my heart espdcially when the curtains blows and we see Vincent just standing their is just how I wish we had a scene like that in season 2 Just git to say about the deleted scenes if V and T on the dvd please tell me that they are the only one's and we have sone Vincat one's? I've not got my box set yet and I was serioulsy hoping that there would be no such scenes on it thank god they never made it to the screen otherwise I just couldn't have contiuned watching. Your right they had Vincat pecking like birds with their kisses but with T he get"s hot and heavy it seem's and even with the flashbsck scene that was more heated. Sorry about the rant did'nt mean to taint what was such a beautiful episode
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Mar 11, 2015 15:43:49 GMT -5
The initial stumbling around by VinCat in the beginning of this episode is sweet. Vincent clearly likes listening in on Cat and Heather's conversations. His look and response to what he hears Catherine saying show that he thinks the interaction is just adorable. Twice he calls in to Cat to enter into the conversation, particularly when Cat is potentially talking about him to Heather. Vincent finds humor in the moment and states, "so I'm your boyfriend now?" since he knows Cat is talking about him as Vincent Salanski. And Cat's response is still unsure as to just what her status is with Vincent, so she tries to keep it light and doesn't define Vincent as her actual boyfriend. It is not until the scene in the warehouse when Cat suddenly says, "You are the REAL THING" that Cat even acknowledges that she DOES, in fact, think of Vincent as her boyfriend.
So this episode actually establishes that Vincent AND Catherine both are on the same page in thinking that their relationship is serious and that of boyfriend/girlfriend. Vincent is VERY eager to read the long extensive dating profile that Cat actually filled out saying what she wants in a guy. And I LOVE the scene where Vincent realizes that Cat is actually thinking about him as she writes--her ideal man is "heroic" and other words that she has used to describe him. Cat has also put in the paperwork that her "ideal date" is "hanging out on fire escapes" and "rooftop picnics" which is THEIR thing. So Vincent KNOWS that he is what Catherine really wants. I still just swoon when Vincent wonderingly states, "this is about ME." At that point, he is willing to risk anything to actually be Cat's real date to the wedding. He WANTS to be there with her AND even interact with her family. No matter the risk.
And that is where Cat unintentionally messes up. And I will just state, I felt she was right in pointing out that caution was the better part of valor. Even beyond the beast thing, Vincent was still supposedly dead and could have potentially been recognized OR photographed, as we later learn he was. He could have landed in some sort of wedding video, etc. Yet Vincent is willing to throw caution to the wind in order to be there for Cat. He wants so badly to give her something of "normalcy" and be someone that doesn't have to be completely hidden or separated from Cat's main life. So Vincent is willing to take the risk. But as Cat tells Vincent in the beginning of the episode, "I don't know if I could live" with what might potentially happen to Vincent just because she wanted him at her side at the wedding.
But Vincent interprets Cat's pulling away and wanting to keep him hidden as meaning she is potentially reticent to truly have a relationship if he is a "beast." THIS is truly Vincent's issue: he thinks Cat just sees him as a beast or animal that will ultimately succumb. Vincent wants SO BADLY to be perceived as "normal." That is why he is so desperate to get JT to "hit" him at the beginning of the episode so that he can prove that he is "in control" of his beast and able to potentially have a normal life. And Vincent becomes convinced that Cat is pushing him away and won't follow through with the relationship because she can't tolerate the beast side of him (which ultimately actually proves to be ALEX'S issue). So Vincent internally starts pulling away from Cat when he leaves the wedding. Thinking that she drove him away and won't be with him due to the DNA mutating.
The fact that the accident intervenes keeps Vincent and Catherine from having that NECESSARY conversation to clarify what Cat meant at the wedding in getting Vincent to leave. YES, I do think that Cat worries that Vincent may become unable to control the beast side if the mutation continues. So Cat is reeling from the information. But she has ALWAYS seen Vincent as good and human. I believe that Vincent thinks that Cat's former "old doubts" from episode 4 are making a re-emergence. Again, if Vincent and Catherine had been able to just sit down and have the conversation that they had in the woods in "Cold Turkey," the Alex-thing would have never happened. Vincent would have been more sure of Cat's intention to be in a relationship with him rather than thinking that she was pushing him away. (Vincent will later tell Cat in "Cold Turkey" that she always brings up the "beast" thing in their conversations and then brings up the wedding and that she wanted him gone. And Cat has to forcefully tell him that she has ALWAYS seen him as human and wanted to know and be with ALL of him, including his beast side, and that it is really HIS issue, not hers.)
So "Bridesmaid Up!" continues to have that blend of moving one step forward and three hundred steps back in that the whole "beast mutation issue" ends up throwing a wall between VinCat that Cat was attempting to alleviate at the end by going after Vincent. Her speech at the wedding, which Vincent doesn't get to hear, makes it clear that Cat realizes that there is NOTHING that will keep her apart from Vincent, even knowing the problems, as she truly loves him. So she runs after him. Only to get in the accident and hospitalized before she ever has a chance to tell Vincent her revelations about herself and the importance of attempting to move forward with their love.
I will just say that I do wish the writers had handled the whole Alex thing better. I really think Vincent was reacting to thinking that Cat could never accept his beast side and would always be unsure around him or unwilling to see the possibility of having a relationship. ADD to that the fact that Cat almost dies in his arms with Vincent being unable to calm down enough to save her due to his strong emotions for her. So you SEE that he really loves her at this point and wants to be with him. I think Alex was an attempt by Vincent to be in a relationship where nothing would risk his heart. Vincent certainly never seems at risk around Alex because she truly bores him. Catherine is the one that gets his heart pumping and makes him feel so out of control when he is around her because he just CAN'T contain his emotions for her. Which potentially causes total lack of control and beast issues. So Vincent is willing to consider deadly dull and ordinary and familiar rather than extraordinary.
So the whole Alex arc does come from the insecurities brought up for Vincent as a result of the hasty retreat he makes from the wedding, being unable to have that conversation with Cat about just WHY she came after him from said wedding, and nearly losing Cat, which Vincent probably felt that he couldn't survive. Which was REALLY what Cat was worried about in hearing Vincent was mutating, which in turn triggered HER fear of losing him. So the uncertainties of this episode help create what happens next.
Still LOVE "Bridesmaid Up!" for the loving VinCat scenes that show how devoted the two are to each other AND that each enjoys the CONTACT and interludes that occur between the two. It has moved beyond just a physical pull. The two have clear emotional ties to one another and just want to be together, but each inwardly feels that something will come between them. Which leads to the fear of being without the other. Swoonworthy. And that Dance. SERIOUSLY!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 7:03:23 GMT -5
V commenting on C. and his sister speaking about a "bridesmaid up" reunion... he is pleased to see C. so happy and asks if she was compensating the "lack of love" in her life with something sweet (IMo hoping that she's feeling this lack of love and he could be the sweet thing for her) I love V talking to JT asking to make him angry to prove that he is ok, he can control his rage... and JT that is skeptical about it yet but only because he is afraid of what could happen and how V. would feel after, not because he doesn't trust his friend V that cannot help himself from reading Cat responses and feels a mix of happiness and relief when he realise that the man she is waiting for is him V. behind the curtains... just swooning (here he is at the top of his handsomeness with that tux on and the way he looks at her) V. disappointment when he feels that Cat doesn't feel herself so close to him after what Evan said. And now he can't see a future with her anymore... so heartbreaking Cat and her talking after the marriage where she admit to herself that two very different people, that for the most part of the world couldn't be together, could be happy ever after because love overcome everything and they are perfect one to each other... so she comes out, driving desperately to find V V torn between remain with Cat ad being seen in his beasty state or leave her to somebody else assistence... another heartbreak
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