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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:09:04 GMT -5
V cant even deny to Tori that he doesnt want Cat. He cant even say it! And for once I give Tori a bit of credit. She is even smart enough to realize that there is still something there and that V obviously feels something more than just friendship. She even calls him out on it and reminds him she can sense his heartbeat. (Guess it was a bad idea V to teach Tori how to sense heartbeats)
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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:28:24 GMT -5
V basically shuts Tori out now that he has informally reconnected with Cat. Any issue or problem of importance, he doesnt talk to Tori about anymore, he talks to Cat. I honestly always sensed that even when V used to confide in Tori it was more about not really having anyone else to confide in, mixed in with a little bit of revenge & hurt and more or less just to include her. Tori came off as not really caring about the gem, & the heists and has basically told V that. She came off that she'd rather be doing anything w/ V besides searching for the gem and dealing with the heist. She Even though it was important to V, Tori could not bring herself to make it important enough even for V's sake to at least pretend like she cared about it and pretend to act like shes more than just a spoiled brat. And I think V obviously sensed her true feelings about how she actually felt about it all. But being that he was hurt and really didnt have anyone to confide in he more or less just used Tori for that purpose. Once the majority of things were resolved w/ Cat, him confiding in Tori was put to bed
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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:45:53 GMT -5
Let me just say V looked so gorgeous in that leather jacket. -Honestly Tori, I'd like to know how WAS everyone treating you at JT's? I didnt think they were treating you that badly. Cat even complemented you on your dress. But I did LOVE though how after she left V went after her pretty much to just dump her. Although I do wonder though what V was thinking she was gonna do once he more or less dumped her. I mean he had to have known that she'd go back to boat. I mean where else is she gonna go? As she has even stated that she has no one or no where to go. So, I wonder what V was thinking about abd how he was gonna handle it eventually. Obviously we know the one chance he got to handle it Tori decides to tie up Dana. But eventually it wouldve if she stayed alive had to have been handled. Wonder if he wouldve actually kicked her out. Its not like she doesnt have the $$ to go buy some place
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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:48:10 GMT -5
Love how V is using completely different tactics then was using just a few episodes ago. Its crazy and nice how just by him knowing that he can trust Cat, that it changes everything in his life, his outlook, his goals, his feelings.
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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:51:08 GMT -5
IMO Tori wasnt rescuing JT for the right reasons. She was rescuing him to get back into V's good graces. Doubt she wouldve rescued JT if she had more of a hold on V like she did previous episodes
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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:52:58 GMT -5
Loved when finally Tori realized that its VinCat and it always will be. T: U belong w/ Catherine (Yes Tori, for once you are right!)
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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:55:10 GMT -5
Love that Cat comes to V's rescue again and shoots Frank Darnell. Cat doesnt even hesitate to shoot. She knows V's life is on the line and its the only way. Even now, its been made clear as it will again in a couple episodes, Cat will cross the line when it comes to Vincent's life
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Post by jefferen on Oct 7, 2014 9:57:37 GMT -5
Finally I loved the Jay & JT finally boathouse scene. Both Austin & Jay played that scene perfectly. I felt the emotions of both of them. Jay gets me every time he cries/tears up as Vincent
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 8, 2014 1:34:09 GMT -5
This episode worked better for me then Ancestors did. I thought that Tess again pushing Gabe onto Catherine was too much after Vincent saving her in the previous episode. As much as everyone was upset with the fact that Tori was in Vincent s bed and obviously not just for sleeping didn't bother me. I thought JT and Vincent end scene was one of the most poignant of the series. Beautifully acted by both Jay and Austin. Jay had tears in his eyes.
As for Tori death...lame but not surorised. The fact that Cat told Gabe she didn't want to be alone and grabbed his hand...yuk lol
This was okay episode better then 10 and not as good as the previous one.
A few cute Vincat moments.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 8, 2014 3:46:06 GMT -5
I have never undertood how after so intensive and full of feelings conversation with Vincent Cat can make inmediately the decisión on dating Gabe. There is no way it makes any sense for me! just does not make sense at all, not even a little bit
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 8, 2014 3:46:38 GMT -5
Last scene with Vin and JT is one of the best of this season, Austin and Jay really make it so real, they are amazing. one of my fav scenes too. i hope it features in the awards somewhere it was just amazing
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Post by dan on Oct 8, 2014 7:33:14 GMT -5
I have never undertood how after so intensive and full of feelings conversation with Vincent Cat can make inmediately the decisión on dating Gabe. There is no way it makes any sense for me! just does not make sense at all, not even a little bit Her rushing things with Gabe.was wrong But what would be 1000000x more wrong is if she pursued Vincent just after his girlfriend that he Slept and had relationship with just Died. Should any woman have some Self Respect? And Why would Tess has to pimp Vincent to Cat just cause he saved her,at the beginning of this episode the guy still had a Girlfriend!!!! It's bad enough Cat was turned into 24/7 love slave for Vincent, she also had to wait on Sideroad everytime he fooled around with another chick and supposed to just accept him back the second he's done with sleeping around w the other chick? Wow that some female empowerment right there. #HeforShe
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Post by raniamahd on Oct 8, 2014 8:03:23 GMT -5
just does not make sense at all, not even a little bit Her rushing things with Gabe.was wrong But what would be 1000000x more wrong is if she pursued Vincent just after his girlfriend that he Slept and had relationship with just Died. Should any woman have some Self Respect? It's bad enough Cat was turned into 24/7 love slave for Vincent, she also had to wait on Sideroad everytime he fooled around with another chick and supposed to just accept him back the second he's done with sleeping around w the other chick? Wow that some female empowerment right there.
#HeforShe even if i disagree with the first bold part or simply never saw it this way , i agree that it was not right for her to accept Vincent again in a second just like that ! even Vincent knew he did screw up a big time and had so much redemption to do before trying to get her back but do you think the better option for her is to start a relationship with Gabe whom she is not even in love with ! and turned to be his yes girl , let him order her and control her life and if he says jump -- her answer would be : how high ?! and for what reason ? because he may not wait for her and as Tess said she needs a body to warm her bed ?!!! that was almost the most woman abused line on TV i ever heard ! oh and did i mention she didn't even love him ?!!! unless the point here is to get even with Vincent and sleep around with someone she isn't in love with like he did -- before she gets back with him ? then yes she did successfully accomplish the mission ! what that female empowerment right there ?!! what she should did was to be alone for sometime to reconnect with her feelings and thoughts , to take a self discover journey and didn't care if a man wait for her or not because it would be his loss not hers and life can go on perfectly for a woman without a man ( without a man but not without love and here is the difference imo) and if it is cold at night she can simply add a blanket instead of sleeping with someone she isn't really in love with ! what a wrong message they delivered here !
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Post by lovebatb on Oct 8, 2014 8:12:34 GMT -5
Her rushing things with Gabe.was wrong But what would be 1000000x more wrong is if she pursued Vincent just after his girlfriend that he Slept and had relationship with just Died. Should any woman have some Self Respect? It's bad enough Cat was turned into 24/7 love slave for Vincent, she also had to wait on Sideroad everytime he fooled around with another chick and supposed to just accept him back the second he's done with sleeping around w the other chick? Wow that some female empowerment right there.
#HeforShe even if i disagree with the first bold part or simply never saw it this way , i agree that it was not right for her to accept Vincent again in a second just like that ! even Vincent knew he screw up big time and had so much redemption to do before he try to get her back but do you think the better option for her is to start a relationship with Gabe whom she is not even in love with him and turned to his yes girl , let him order her and control her life and when he says jump -- her answer would be : how high ?! and for what reason ? because he may not wait for her and as Tess said she needs a body to warm her bed ?!!! that was almost the most woman abused line on TV i ever heard ! oh and did i mention she didn't even love him ?!!! unless the point here is to get even with Vincent and sleep around with someone she isn't in love with like he did -- before she gets back with him ? then yes she did successfully accomplish the mission ! what that female empowerment right there ?!! what she should did was to be alone for sometime to reconnect with her feeling and thoughts , to take a self discover journey and didn't care if a man wait for her or not because it would be his loss not hers and life can go on for a woman without a man ( without a man but not without love and here is the different imo) and if it is cold at night she can simply add a blanket instead of sleeping with someone she isn't really in love with ! what a wrong message they delivered here !
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 8, 2014 15:21:18 GMT -5
just does not make sense at all, not even a little bit Her rushing things with Gabe.was wrong But what would be 1000000x more wrong is if she pursued Vincent just after his girlfriend that he Slept and had relationship with just Died. Should any woman have some Self Respect? And Why would Tess has to pimp Vincent to Cat just cause he saved her,at the beginning of this episode the guy still had a Girlfriend!!!! It's bad enough Cat was turned into 24/7 love slave for Vincent, she also had to wait on Sideroad everytime he fooled around with another chick and supposed to just accept him back the second he's done with sleeping around w the other chick? Wow that some female empowerment right there. #HeforShe sex slave for Vincent really?? Who jumped his bone to try to see if he would get his memory back? She did! That doesn't sound like a sex slave to me Catherine does what Catherine wants ...He <edited>s the <edited> out of her cause 'she wants it' NOT cause she's his sex slave.
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