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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 4, 2013 18:26:03 GMT -5
When it comes to promos and publicity sometimes none is good...LOOK what that preview and clip has done here for us....It hasn't only made many of us MAD but also curious to know...and the whole idea of CURIOUS is that people will watch...That's what I think they have been mum or haven't released anything else
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Post by Lina on Feb 4, 2013 18:35:27 GMT -5
It is known that Vincent has good sense of smell and sight(night vision)...Do you think that if he were drugged he could smell the drug in let's say a drink?? I'm thinking of something Jay said in an interview..about Vincent being hooked on prescription drugs...could Alex be drugging him somehow without him knowing? Like a drug that can make him do or think like she wants??? Okay, I've been watching The X-files for TOO many years...but he did say in an interview about the drugs and YET that has not been addressed yet in any of the two episodes Alex has been in. Yolanda Lol well... I think MAYBE you ARE watching The X-Files for too long lol But who knows? These writers have some unexpected ideas... I think they're really just trying to show us that "he has flaws". -_____-
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Post by lola on Feb 4, 2013 18:36:34 GMT -5
Yolanda, that is a great point about the prescription drugs not being mentioned yet. Also, I am surprised that we have not seen any Vincent/Alex flashbacks from back in the day. (Not that I want to see those). Just saying...
Also, does anyone think it is possible that Vincent is NOT going to tell Cat how he feels in this episode??? I am hoping for the opposite. But....
Also, do we know the case of the week?
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Post by gena7373 on Feb 4, 2013 18:36:48 GMT -5
Remember in the first few episodes when thy net he said he smelt the poison the girl had drank before she passed so I don't think Alex could get that by him ?
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Post by Lina on Feb 4, 2013 18:41:37 GMT -5
^ ohhh that's very true! Good memory!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 4, 2013 18:43:51 GMT -5
Remember in the first few episodes when thy net he said he smelt the poison the girl had drank before she passed so I don't think Alex could get that by him ? Yes I know..I remember that too..but it seems to me that VINCE is totally NOT VINCENT we are seeing a totally different character then the first 9 episodes.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 4, 2013 18:45:04 GMT -5
It is known that Vincent has good sense of smell and sight(night vision)...Do you think that if he were drugged he could smell the drug in let's say a drink?? I'm thinking of something Jay said in an interview..about Vincent being hooked on prescription drugs...could Alex be drugging him somehow without him knowing? Like a drug that can make him do or think like she wants??? Okay, I've been watching The X-files for TOO many years...but he did say in an interview about the drugs and YET that has not been addressed yet in any of the two episodes Alex has been in. Yolanda Lol well... I think MAYBE you ARE watching The X-Files for too long lol But who knows? These writers have some unexpected ideas... I think they're really just trying to show us that "he has flaws". -_____- I know I LOVED that show..take it that's why I love a juicy conspiracy theory..maybe hoping this is something like that..I don't know LOL
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Post by oa on Feb 4, 2013 19:40:42 GMT -5
conspiracy theory with alex! count me in!
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Post by hcastro on Feb 4, 2013 19:56:37 GMT -5
^ panic. Lol perfect word choice! I don't like what they did to Vincent's character either. I can see where the whole "confusion" is coming from. I've said this before. The problem here is that Vincent isn't choosing between two women, he's choosing between the life he had before, and the life he has now. He's choosing between what he feels is "normalcy" (Alex), and what he feels is his "beast" life (Cat) and, obviously, he wishes he could just be normal again and didn't have to hide. I completely get his confusion and his "fantasy", as Cat said, BUT, there's different ways of approaching the same situation, and I don't like the fact that Vincent lost his morals and good character. He really did become a jerk towards Cat, and that's not cool. His careless attitude towards her is what bothers me, not the whole confusion thing... It's really just sad. I'm sure the writers will find a way to make us fall back in love with VinCat, but I wish they had maintained Vincent's character throughout the entire story. After all, our character IS permanent and extends through all aspects of our life. You couldn't have voiced my thoughts in a better way, carolina!
How is Cat supposed to trust a guy that changes his entire personality overnight?
I always told people that Evan isn't the right guy for Cat, despite his obvious affection towards her, because he can't be trusted due to the way he treats women, but at least he has always been consistent. So, as it is, I prefer Evan than Vincent.
My anger is not about his confusion, it's about his disrespect towards Cat. That's simply unbelievable!So. Much. This. I could deal with Vincent's torn feelings and his longing for his old life when he was "normal". But it's hard to be sympathetic when he's going through this process while being a selfish idiot with little regard for Catherine's feelings. That is what grates on my nerves. It's only been 2 episodes but I'm already getting tired of Catherine being constantly hurt by either his actions or words (or lack of words). I'm very hopeful that in "Cold Turkey" that we start to get glimpses of the old Vincent back and not "Vince the "wishy-washy jerk". I can't wait to see how Vincent begins the process of repairing his relationship with Catherine and I hope it won't be easy, he needs to suffer a little bit. Personally, I think this Ex S/L has dragged on for way too long, I think 2 episodes would have sufficed if only because it's agonizing for me to see Catherine's heart breaking every time Vincent does something or opens his mouth.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 4, 2013 20:01:45 GMT -5
conspiracy theory with alex! count me in! Well the idea is to fool..I guess..the DRUG issue hasn't been addressed?? And why not?? There has to be something with that in all of this..UNLESS I am just re-thinking and analyzing too much which I do sometimes. Hence back to my X-File years LOL
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Post by oa on Feb 4, 2013 20:16:09 GMT -5
i dont actually know what to think with these writers, they like throwing curve balls at us!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 4, 2013 20:31:20 GMT -5
It is known that Vincent has good sense of smell and sight(night vision)...Do you think that if he were drugged he could smell the drug in let's say a drink?? I'm thinking of something Jay said in an interview..about Vincent being hooked on prescription drugs...could Alex be drugging him somehow without him knowing? Like a drug that can make him do or think like she wants??? Okay, I've been watching The X-files for TOO many years...but he did say in an interview about the drugs and YET that has not been addressed yet in any of the two episodes Alex has been in. Yolanda ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yes, I think you had watched too many X-Files, Yolanda!
And, as I said before, I don't like the wh**e! Like at all! But I think that transforming her in a villain would made the story even weaker!
"Douchincent" is acting like this because he's being a jerk, stupid, selfish bastard, not because the wh**e is making him do it!
In a scenario where the redheaded wh**e is a villain, "Douchincent" is only choosing beautiful Catherine because she's the next best thing!
I think that there's enough damage in the show as it is to add this possibility, don't you think?Way too much DAMAGE I agree soldiervincent but we are talking about writers that were able to change a character from loving him to despising him in just 2 episodes. SO I wouldn't pass anything pass them LOL
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 4, 2013 20:44:42 GMT -5
soldiervincent *I* think the reason some are so ticked of this totally different ASS of a Vincent is cause the writers DID this all wrong...They could had made their point without making Vincent out like such a d*** bag..Let's say that if the writers gave us more confusion in Vincent (as maybe him thinking of Cat while with Red) via flashback or memories whatever then the blow would be less cause we would have a sense that he is *TORN* between the two woman BUT they didn't...So by just showing Vincent be careless, become selfish and just lose all of the special bond he had with Catherine they changed Vincent persona totally....THIS is the MISTAKE the writers made and this is why Vincent is <edited>ED and some will never see him like they used too
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 4, 2013 21:07:36 GMT -5
soldiervincent *I* think the reason some are so ticked of this totally different ASS of a Vincent is cause the writers DID this all wrong...They could had made their point without making Vincent out like such a d*** bag..Let's say that if the writers gave us more confusion in Vincent (as maybe him thinking of Cat while with Red) via flashback or memories whatever then the blow would be less cause we would have a sense that he is *TORN* between the two woman BUT they didn't...So by just showing Vincent be careless, become selfish and just lose all of the special bond he had with Catherine they changed Vincent persona totally....THIS is the MISTAKE the writers made and this is why Vincent is <edited>ED and some will never see him like they used too That's why I don't want the wh**e turning into a villain, Yolanda.
The damage is already done. There's no turning back so it wouldn't do any good if there was some hint that if the wh**e's character was trustful he would be with her!
This poor excuse they gave us, telling us that they want to show that Douchincent is acting like this because he's human with flaws is so ridiculous!
JT is human with flaws, that's why he's bad humored and sarcastic. Evan is human with flaws, that's why he treats women like disposable items. But none of them are jerks! So it doesn't make any sense to me!I'm hoping she isn't a bad guy either..OR if they go that way that VINNIE realizes that Catherine is his choice before he finds out she's a baddy of a wh**e ..I get your dilemma ...Okay I'm gonna turn the table around...HOW would you like this mess to be cleared out? What's your best scenario?
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Post by hcastro on Feb 4, 2013 21:12:44 GMT -5
[quote author=hcastro board=spoilers thread=79 post=8657 time=1360025797 So. Much. This. I could deal with Vincent's torn feelings and his longing for his old life when he was "normal". But it's hard to be sympathetic when he's going through this process while being a selfish idiot with little regard for Catherine's feelings. That is what grates on my nerves. It's only been 2 episodes but I'm already getting tired of Catherine being constantly hurt by either his actions or words (or lack of words). I'm very hopeful that in "Cold Turkey" that we start to get glimpses of the old Vincent back and not "Vince the "wishy-washy jerk". I can't wait to see how Vincent begins the process of repairing his relationship with Catherine and I hope it won't be easy, he needs to suffer a little bit. Personally, I think this Ex S/L has dragged on for way too long, I think 2 episodes would have sufficed if only because it's agonizing for me to see Catherine's heart breaking every time Vincent does something or opens his mouth. Yeah, the fact he agrees to go on this "romantic getaway" is vomit-inducing even if his intention is to tell her the truth about his "beastly self". Does it really need to be some romantic place like a remote cabin if his only intention is to reveal his secret? Could it not take place anywhere else?? And what to make of Alex going to Catherine to ask for permission? Perhaps Alex does realize there may be something going on between VinCat and she wants to rub it in her face to gauge her reaction? I would really hope Alex is not that stupid but based on some of her actions so far, she comes across as not only as psycho but clueless and dense at times. I think there will be some moments in this episode that will probably make us cringe or ticked off. Obviously one of those moments is the "jogging scene" and another is what looks like may be a kiss or something else going on when Vincent/Ex are on the couch (gag!) and the fact she's in a robe is YUCK...but we will see. The promos are misleading at times. My hope is that by the end of it, we will begin to see the Vincent we all fell in love with before psycho Ex came around. We all know he is trying to make amends with Catherine in the next episode...but HOW he gets to that point is what is important to a lot of us. Which is why I really hope the writers don't drop the ball on how this Alex S/L is resolved. Making Alex a part of Muirfield or evil wouldn't be satisfactory to me. Although it would make sense, it would be too easy of a choice for Vincent to go back to Catherine. Her dying is even worse because then she'll be a martyr and Vincent will forever mourn her and wonder what could've been...another case of choosing Catherine by default. Her being freaked out by him being a beast...maybe...if only because it makes Catherine's accepting EVERYTHING about him that much more powerful in conveying her true love for Vincent. But I still don't think I like that either...again, it seems to be the easy route. The best scenario IMO is that Vincent realizes that he doesn't love Alex in that way anymore and that he loves Catherine. Maybe Vincent seeing her get hurt and the possibility of losing her again (looks that way when she falls hard on the ground after that blast) is the big moment when he realizes how much Catherine means to him. I really hope to see Vincent tells Alex he LOVES Catherine as well. And PLEASE, PLEASE address that "handler comment"...really despise that word and is so insulting to Catherine, hopefully Vincent brings it up. I mentioned it before, but seeing him make that declaration to Alex would be a nice parallel to Catherine telling her therapist she loves Vincent. We probably won't see them say that to each other...I think it's way too soon...I mean, they haven't even kissed yet!! But it would make me feel a lot better about Vincent and excited about how he plans to make it up to Catherine in the upcoming episodes.
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