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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 21, 2014 19:42:54 GMT -5
Sorry LOL I can confuse some ..What I tried to say was that SOMETHING will happen that he would have to make the choice to HURT Tori to protect someone else or even KILL her... Sorry if I confused you My point is..Vincent thinks Catherine had another choice BUT to shoot him?? What if Vincent was in a situation like that and had to act the same way Catherine did towards him? So what you're saying Yolie is that Tori is somehow going to try to hurt Catherine so Vincent chooses to save Catherine by killing Tori? I could be wrong BUT yes! I mean he doesn't have to KILL her...WEll it doesn't have to be Catherine per say it could be someone else..But he would have to make that choice
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 19:51:29 GMT -5
So what you're saying Yolie is that Tori is somehow going to try to hurt Catherine so Vincent chooses to save Catherine by killing Tori? I could be wrong BUT yes! I mean he doesn't have to KILL her...WEll it doesn't have to be Catherine per say it could be someone else..But he would have to make that choice If you're right, I hope it's Catherine who Vincent chooses over Tori. Maybe that's what the writers meant when they said that Tori will bring VinCat together Having Vincent choose to save Catherine over the she-beast finally opens V's eyes to how much she means to him
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 21, 2014 19:53:23 GMT -5
LOL In other words he'll have to be in her shoes to understand WHY she had to do it..I think that makes better sense..
Also remember that this is the episode which JT and Sam are kidnapped..Maybe things go wrong , maybe TOri wants to kill someone and Vincent has to stop her? But something would have to make him see past the 'she didn't have to shot me' or'she chose him over me' thing.
ANd unless Tori is the hero and leaves on her own accord, I see a BAD ending to her
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Post by DayaBEASTS4 on Jan 21, 2014 19:55:11 GMT -5
So what you're saying Yolie is that Tori is somehow going to try to hurt Catherine so Vincent chooses to save Catherine by killing Tori? I could be wrong BUT yes! I mean he doesn't have to KILL her...WEll it doesn't have to be Catherine per say it could be someone else..But he would have to make that choice I like that theory ... because so even tori die. Cat would not be a second choice for Vince... if that case comes on the scene... he has to choose...
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 21, 2014 19:56:31 GMT -5
Sorry LOL I can confuse some ..What I tried to say was that SOMETHING will happen that he would have to make the choice to HURT Tori to protect someone else or even KILL her... Sorry if I confused you My point is..Vincent thinks Catherine had another choice BUT to shoot him?? What if Vincent was in a situation like that and had to act the same way Catherine did towards him? So you are thinking that at some point, Vincent has to make the "right decision", not a decision that serves HIS purpose or goals. That he needs that "event" to give him "empathy" ........a conscience?? That he hasn't hit rock bottom yet.........that he is just into "himself". But where does Tori come into all this?? Personally, if Tori is the reason that Vincent gets his humanity back I will call the writers out. I don't want Tori to be the reason and have Vincent come running back to Cat. And I don't want Tori to die as a martyr or whatever. I just wanted a mutual coming together of Vincent and Cat.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 21, 2014 20:01:59 GMT -5
Sorry LOL I can confuse some ..What I tried to say was that SOMETHING will happen that he would have to make the choice to HURT Tori to protect someone else or even KILL her... Sorry if I confused you My point is..Vincent thinks Catherine had another choice BUT to shoot him?? What if Vincent was in a situation like that and had to act the same way Catherine did towards him? So you are thinking that at some point, Vincent has to make the "right decision", not a decision that serves HIS purpose or goals. That he needs that "event" to give him "empathy" ........a conscience?? That he hasn't hit rock bottom yet.........that he is just into "himself". But where does Tori come into all this?? Personally, if Tori is the reason that Vincent gets his humanity back I will call the writers out. I don't want Tori to be the reason and have Vincent come running back to Cat. And I don't want Tori to die as a martyr or whatever. I just wanted a mutual coming together of Vincent and Cat. Yes , I don't know where Tori would play a part in this..BUT it's her last episode, SOMETHING major has to happen ....Also this is the episode JT and Sam are held hostage. Episode Recipe For Disaster. Which is also the episode JT reveals to Vincent about him and M. Once again I'm sorry to confuse you Suzieq ❤️ Beastie
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 20:02:17 GMT -5
I could be wrong BUT yes! I mean he doesn't have to KILL her...WEll it doesn't have to be Catherine per say it could be someone else..But he would have to make that choice I like that theory ... because so even tori die. Cat would not be a second choice for Vince... if that case comes on the scene... he has to choose... Exactly! Catherine was his first choice. Maybe that's what the writers meant when they said that this won't be like the Alex arc Then again who knows with these confused writers! LOL!
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 21, 2014 20:03:06 GMT -5
didn't Vincent already kill his friend Zack to prevent him from killing Catherine - the whole Gabriella thing - "I would be like that without you" - He chose her over his friend - he did try to reason with Zack - he has become Zack with she beast on his shoulder - I refuse to say hip - recurring themes - choose lover or friend - become monster without love
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 21, 2014 20:03:25 GMT -5
I like that theory ... because so even tori die. Cat would not be a second choice for Vince... if that case comes on the scene... he has to choose... Exactly! Catherine was his first choice. Maybe that's what the writers meant when they said that this won't be like the Alex arc Then again who knows with these confused writers! LOL! VERY VERY VERY CONFUSED WRITERS! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 20:06:53 GMT -5
So you are thinking that at some point, Vincent has to make the "right decision", not a decision that serves HIS purpose or goals. That he needs that "event" to give him "empathy" ........a conscience?? That he hasn't hit rock bottom yet.........that he is just into "himself". But where does Tori come into all this?? Personally, if Tori is the reason that Vincent gets his humanity back I will call the writers out. I don't want Tori to be the reason and have Vincent come running back to Cat. And I don't want Tori to die as a martyr or whatever. I just wanted a mutual coming together of Vincent and Cat. Yes , I don't know where Tori would play a part in this..BUT it's her last episode, SOMETHING major has to happen ....Also this is the episode JT and Sam are held hostage. Episode Recipe For Disaster. Which is also the episode JT reveals to Vincent about him and M. Once again I'm sorry to confuse you Suzieq ❤️ BeastieMaybe after V kills T, J.T finally reveals the truth in hopes of making him feel better? Probably tells him he was a good guy before all the experiments were conducted on him It's not his fault but rather J.T's because he was the one who put his name down in the first place.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 21, 2014 20:08:53 GMT -5
Yes , I don't know where Tori would play a part in this..BUT it's her last episode, SOMETHING major has to happen ....Also this is the episode JT and Sam are held hostage. Episode Recipe For Disaster. Which is also the episode JT reveals to Vincent about him and M. Once again I'm sorry to confuse you Suzieq ❤️ BeastieMaybe after V kills T, J.T finally reveals the truth in hopes of making him feel better? Probably tells him he was a good guy before all the experiments were conducted on him It's not his fault but rather J.T's because he was the one who put his name down in the first place. That episode is MAJOR, there's a lot going on in it..and yes possibly one thing leads to another.
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Post by DayaBEASTS4 on Jan 21, 2014 20:17:37 GMT -5
Exactly! Catherine was his first choice. Maybe that's what the writers meant when they said that this won't be like the Alex arc Then again who knows with these confused writers! LOL! VERY VERY VERY CONFUSED WRITERS! LOL C'mon ladies!! cheers up... or BEASTUP Things have to hit rock bottom .. and then climb more strongly in a beautiful way...... in a VINCAT WAY
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 21, 2014 20:25:13 GMT -5
Sitting here reading posts - song on TV is Everything Has Changed by Taylor Swift from her Red album - Universe has a sense of humor
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 21, 2014 20:51:39 GMT -5
@jillcarter
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jan 21, 2014 23:05:28 GMT -5
VERY VERY VERY CONFUSED WRITERS! LOL C'mon ladies!! cheers up... or BEASTUP Things have to hit rock bottom .. and then climb more strongly in a beautiful way...... in a VINCAT WAY Thanks for reminding us! Wish I could join in. Vincent may not have hit "rock bottom" but I think I have. LOL!!! So tired of a dark, depressing, BATB with unlikeable characters rather than the epic romance and love-story that I bought into. The writers give us no hope whatsoever; they will not even answer tweets. Has anyone figured out how the writers can use the excuse of our beloved characters "finding themselves"? I don't see it. Since when does "finding yourself" entail jumping into the arms of someone else? When does it mean becoming the polar opposite of your former "self"? It has been so long since I have seen anything even slightly resembling Season 1 Vincent and Season 1 Catherine that I am starting to think perhaps the Season 2 versions of our characters IS who they really are and last year was all an illusion! (So sorry for the rant! Bad lilbit...bad, bad lilbit! )
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