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Post by jemangela on Jan 24, 2014 9:35:12 GMT -5
some one on ksitetv post a comment i find it worthy reading ?! so i say to myself :why not ? let us quote it here ,maybe some one could by some miracle can send it to the show makers to let them know to where they took the show and how that effect some or shall i say most of the funs ? it is a sham what they made us feel (us here refer to those who feel depress and disappoint with what they did to their favorite show ) ok enough talk from me and i leave you with some body else 's thought !
This is how I see it.
Alex was Vincent's first choice. He was going to runaway with her but sadly, she rejected the beast. She was the love of his life and vice versa. He stalked Cat for a different reason in season 1. Because she was the daughter of the woman who changed and helped him escape.. or something. He even says Alex was a fantasy. His fantasy of not being a beast and being with the one he loved as a normal guy. Cat was his only reality.
Tori is the first choice for the "new" beast. The writers just didn't follow through with her story? They don't know how to write a remotely interesting arc for any characters. They are only telling Vincent's so called 'struggles' this season and the show is almost cancelled. Time to condense everything?
Catherine is Vincent's last option because he has no other choice. She doesn't reject season 1 VinBeast or season 2's turdy VinBeast. They wrote him in a way that any human woman would reject him if they found the truth. So in reality, she's his only option. She chooses him but he never chooses her.
I cannot tell you how retarded season 2 arc is, but in season 2, Cat finally rejects Vincent in ep 9 and he 'turns' in 10. She doesn't shoot Vincent in 10 because any resemblance of his human side is gone. No point in wasting a bullet. His memory is back and he is still murdering at will. In the meantime, let's have her kiss the guy who tried to kill her few months back. If I could only embed the JLAW's thumbs up gif here. 
Tori.... they needed to make Tori a much stronger character AND still have Vincent conflicted with himself. Instead of showing any internal struggle, Vincent turns with his memory mostly intact, I don't mean the VinTori ship, implied or not, they turn him into a MURDERER WITHOUT any assistance from Tori. She is not the devil which everyone thinks of. Only thing she's guilty of is latching onto him and it takes two to tango. To her, VinCat is over. Vincent has much better control of his season 2 beast, so, not gonna blame it on Tori, nope. Also, it's Vincent who unleashed the beast on Catherine on the roof.
There are so many glaring goatse plot holes and cringy lines. When Cat says "We're meant to be" or something, that line is so out of character, you are literally like WTF? Twilight Zone of remodeled apartment with new everything, when she didn't have time for anyone dead or alive. Every time they show Cat's apartment, you're like, WHEN DID SHE HAVE TIME TO REDECORATE HER ENTIRE APT, SHE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TIME TO SLEEP!!!!. I REALLY NEED TO KNOW THIS!! :)I know we are supposed to suspend disbelief but come on.. whoever suggested that should have been fired on the spot. But holy cow, they actually did it. With season 1 on Netflix, Itunes, all over, they actually decide to forgo the continuity of her living space. Why not just have her move? Say evicted because the building is turning condo or something, anything. That is so amazing to me.
Vincent chooses to be the devil when he murders at will and he's been doing it since the beginning of season 2, with and without memory, without Tori. Catherine chooses to let the murderer walk free over and over. How are they going to resolve this BeTard and the Murderer now? Someone should rename this show immediately.
This article doesn't seem to belong to this forum at all. This is for fans; to discuss what they like and not, giving opinions and sharing spoilers. This article is just pure bashing; nothing good to say about Batb. More appropriate to be in a "I hate Batb" forum:puppydogeyes: I think this is from a very disgruntled fan, which was pretty much me after episode 10 and the 2 pics of Vin/Tori about to lock lips. There's no way someone who's not invested in the show can have that much info and spend time sharing all that...this person has watched BatB since Season 1 and I bet you, they have watched the episodes more than once....they are fuming mad with direction and they just let it rip.... |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 24, 2014 9:48:30 GMT -5
LOL!!! Okay now this is what I call putting the finger in the wound (probably bad translayion but hope u all kmow what I mean) Seriously.. Wonderful as always... While watching it I was wondering: how will they play out the reconciliation kiss and more?? Tbh, I can't wait to see that and to see those looks in BOTH of them!! Thanks! |
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 24, 2014 9:51:01 GMT -5
LOL!!! Okay now this is what I call putting the finger in the wound (probably bad translayion but hope u all kmow what I mean) Seriously.. Wonderful as always... While watching it I was wondering: how will they play out the reconciliation kiss and more?? Tbh, I can't wait to see that and to see those looks in BOTH of them!! Thanks! oh yes!! reconciliation kiss.. |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2014 9:51:27 GMT -5
What did I miss last night.........did we get good news? Everyone is so BaTB Happy today? You know I have never doubted for one instant that Catherine loves Vincent, even now. But I can NOT say the same about Vincent. Everyone says that Vincent "Loves" Catherine, but I would REALLY like to know where/when that was evident? I mean not just "warming up to Cat", or "acknowledging some memories" . But pure expressions of Love? I just don't see it? I want to see it, .......but what I have seen this whole season doesn't even register on the "VinCat Love Meter" from last season. I do see it. Vincent loves her! Honestly, I am not being flippant.........would someone please tell me in what scene you see where Vincent "loves" Catherine.....not puppy dog eyes, but the real love connection that is reminiscent of Season 1 VinCat? Please, I want to see what you guys are seeing and what I am missing. And let's exclude the Houseboat scene.....that was a "pull" attraction, not love. |
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Post by Rysa on Jan 24, 2014 10:23:43 GMT -5
I do see it. Vincent loves her! Honestly, I am not being flippant.........would someone please tell me in what scene you see where Vincent "loves" Catherine.....not puppy dog eyes, but the real love connection that is reminiscent of Season 1 VinCat? Please, I want to see what you guys are seeing and what I am missing. And let's exclude the Houseboat scene.....that was a "pull" attraction, not love. There is a scene in Reunion where Vincent becomes more possessive with Cathrine and not let Gabe to take her. He wants to do it by himself. If he does not love her why not letting Gabe do it? In many occasion I see him be caring with her despite the fact he has brainwashed. He has some memories. With Tori around him it's not so obviously. |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2014 10:31:44 GMT -5
Honestly, I am not being flippant.........would someone please tell me in what scene you see where Vincent "loves" Catherine.....not puppy dog eyes, but the real love connection that is reminiscent of Season 1 VinCat? Please, I want to see what you guys are seeing and what I am missing. And let's exclude the Houseboat scene.....that was a "pull" attraction, not love. There is a scene in Reunion where Vincent becomes more possessive with Cathrine and not let Gabe to take her. He wants to do it by himself. If he does not love her why not letting Gabe do it? In many occasion I see him be caring with her despite the fact he has brainwashed. He has some memories. With Tori around him it's not so obviously. I would agree that Vincent showed concerned for Catherine but,.......his first words were "What Beast?.......then he says, "Is she OK?" So, even though we saw a glimmer of protectiveness for Cat,.......I couldn't separate the fact that Vincent was alerted to a new Beast that was around! Remember, Vincent was still on his Beast killing missions at that time. The end of Reunion, between Vincent and Cat, was the closest I say these two were emotionally and would possibly label that some act of "love" from Vincent.....but for me, that is a stretch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 10:32:18 GMT -5
Honestly, I am not being flippant.........would someone please tell me in what scene you see where Vincent "loves" Catherine.....not puppy dog eyes, but the real love connection that is reminiscent of Season 1 VinCat? Please, I want to see what you guys are seeing and what I am missing. And let's exclude the Houseboat scene.....that was a "pull" attraction, not love. There is a scene in Reunion where Vincent becomes more possessive with Cathrine and not let Gabe to take her. He wants to do it by himself. If he does not love her why not letting Gabe do it? In many occasion I see him be caring with her despite the fact he has brainwashed. He has some memories. With Tori around him it's not so obviously. Possessiveness and jealousy is not love. Those are the feelings of Tori towards Vincent. Real connection is love. That I didn't see once this season. |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2014 10:34:15 GMT -5
Possessiveness and jealousy is not love. Those are the feelings of Tori towards Vincent. Real connection is love. That I didn't see once this season. Exactly, I have said it before......Jealousy does NOT equal Love! |
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Post by Rysa on Jan 24, 2014 10:36:14 GMT -5
There is a scene in Reunion where Vincent becomes more possessive with Cathrine and not let Gabe to take her. He wants to do it by himself. If he does not love her why not letting Gabe do it? In many occasion I see him be caring with her despite the fact he has brainwashed. He has some memories. With Tori around him it's not so obviously. Possessiveness and jealousy is not love. Those are the feelings of Tori towards Vincent. Real connection is love. That I didn't see once this season. Why to be possessive and jealous for a person that you do not love? Due to the hurt egoism? |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2014 10:46:24 GMT -5
Why to be possessive and jealous for a person that you do not love? Due to the hurt egoism? Classic behavior in Domestic Violence situations. In some relationships the perpetrator doesn't really "love" compassionately for the other person but is jealous and possessive and acts out violently. They may say that they "love" their partner, but it is all about control. |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 24, 2014 10:47:22 GMT -5
There is a scene in Reunion where Vincent becomes more possessive with Cathrine and not let Gabe to take her. He wants to do it by himself. If he does not love her why not letting Gabe do it? In many occasion I see him be caring with her despite the fact he has brainwashed. He has some memories. With Tori around him it's not so obviously. I would agree that Vincent showed concerned for Catherine but,.......his first words were "What Beast?.......then he says, "Is she OK?" So, even though we saw a glimmer of protectiveness for Cat,.......I couldn't separate the fact that Vincent was alerted to a new Beast that was around! Remember, Vincent was still on his Beast killing missions at that time. The end of Reunion, between Vincent and Cat, was the closest I say these two were emotionally and would possibly label that some act of "love" from Vincent.....but for me, that is a stretch. To see a connection you need two. We started s2 with V being off for obvious reasons. Cat was more engaged for obvious reasons again. But as episodes past V had more and more conmectiom with her while she started to slowly disconnect due to all the mistrust, shove, news about her father... We reached a point where both were starting to tune in again (ep 4 and 5) but since Tori appeared and V started to lose control (don't mean sex attraction), norhkng was the same. Remember at the beg of ep 7 (before the T/V kiss) some of us felt catherine was not all lovey and sweet with V (didn't seem she loved him either) V has shown he cares for her deeply and want to have her in his life but many things happened and he was coming from a non-memory situation so it's not fair to expect he showed how much he loves her im that period. Wouldn't feel realistic... As I sald, I can't wait to see that look in both of them... |
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 24, 2014 10:50:12 GMT -5
Why to be possessive and jealous for a person that you do not love? Due to the hurt egoism? Classic behavior in Domestic Violence situations. In some relationships the perpetrator doesn't really "love" compassionately for the other person but is jealous and possessive and acts out violently. They may say that they "love" their partner, but it is all about control. Ok, I agree. But we are talking about a tv show and BATB so I guess no one doubts here that writters didn't want to write a domestic violence story right? Why is so difficult to interpret that jealousy coming from a deeper and pure feeling instead of evil? |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2014 10:58:10 GMT -5
Ok, I agree. But we are talking about a tv show and BATB so I guess no one doubts here that writters didn't want to write a domestic violence story right? Why is so difficult to interpret that jealousy coming from a deeper and pure feeling instead of evil? Because I am not seeing the "Love" from Vincent towards Catherine that some are seeing,......That is why I asked the question for examples of times they saw it and are convinced of it. Trust me, I WANT to see it.........I want to see Vincent's love for Catherine somewhere.....I am struggling to see it. |
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 24, 2014 10:59:58 GMT -5
Why to be possessive and jealous for a person that you do not love? Due to the hurt egoism? Classic behavior in Domestic Violence situations. In some relationships the perpetrator doesn't really "love" compassionately for the other person but is jealous and possessive and acts out violently. They may say that they "love" their partner, but it is all about control. Domestic violence? |
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2014 11:02:57 GMT -5
Classic behavior in Domestic Violence situations. In some relationships the perpetrator doesn't really "love" compassionately for the other person but is jealous and possessive and acts out violently. They may say that they "love" their partner, but it is all about control. Domestic violence?  |
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