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Post by Fire And Ice on Dec 27, 2012 1:42:42 GMT -5
So BATB isn't coming back until January 24th because they are running an encore of "The Carrie Diaries" pilot in its timeslot. I hate to bash on other shows, but if you want to check out TCD, please do so on another night. Let's not support TCD in BATB's timeslot. I don't want them to change the night that BATB airs in the Spring because when a show starts changing nights, viewership/ratings drops. Here's the January/February schedule changes for the CW: Monday, January 14 8:00/7:00c - "The Carrie Diaries" (Series Premiere) 9:00/8:00c - "The Carrie Diaries" (Encore) Thursday, January 17 8:00/7:00c - "The Vampire Diaries" 9:00/8:00c - "The Carrie Diaries" (Encore) Friday, January 18 8:00/7:00c - "Nikita" 9:00/8:00c - "Beauty and the Beast" (Repeat) <-- I think the episode is "Bridesmaid Up." Mondays (as of January 21) 8:00/7:00c - "The Carrie Diaries" 9:00/8:00c - "90210" (New Time Slot) Fridays (January 25-February 8) 8:00/7:00c - "Nikita" 9:00/8:00c - "The Carrie Diaries" (Encores) Tuesday, February 19 8:00/7:00c - "Hart of Dixie" 9:00/8:00c - "Cult" (Series Premiere) Fridays (as of February 22) 8:00/7:00c - "Nikita" 9:00/8:00c - "Cult" (Encores)
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Post by fortywinks on Dec 27, 2012 10:30:20 GMT -5
F&I Could you explain how "encore" works? That would be great.
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Post by cassy09 on Dec 27, 2012 10:32:27 GMT -5
Here's the January/February schedule changes for the CW: Thursday, January 17 8:00/7:00c - "The Vampire Diaries" 9:00/8:00c - "The Carrie Diaries" (Encore) well that is a weird combination. these shows have nothing in common except the "diaries" in their names
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Post by Fire And Ice on Dec 27, 2012 21:03:58 GMT -5
F&I Could you explain how "encore" works? That would be great. Yes, an "encore" is just a repeat of the most recent episode. In the case of "The Carrie Diaries" it's a repeat of the Pilot. I guess they are showing it multiple times to try to get the most people possible to watch it. It is annoying that they are putting one of these "encores" in BATB's timeslot. It should've been put on Friday, not BATB. I don't want anyone to turn on the TV and think that BATB had moved to another night.
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Post by Fire And Ice on Dec 27, 2012 21:09:20 GMT -5
Here's the January/February schedule changes for the CW: Thursday, January 17 8:00/7:00c - "The Vampire Diaries" 9:00/8:00c - "The Carrie Diaries" (Encore) well that is a weird combination. these shows have nothing in common except the "diaries" in their names No kidding! It would've made more sense either to go on Friday because there's an open timeslot on Friday or to go after maybe "Hart of Dixie." Not that HOD and TCD have that much in common, but more so than it has with The Vampire Diaries! At least they aren't moving BATB again for when Cult premieres. Still, it's annoying. BATB fans should turn off the TV or change the channel after The Vampire Diaries on that night. I don't want The Carrie Diaries to pull better numbers than BATB on that night. The CW was great in leaving BATB on the same night this Spring; I don't want them to change their mind. I also don't like that we have to wait an additional week so they can be a repeat episode of another show in BATB's timeslot.
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Post by cassy09 on Dec 28, 2012 9:02:25 GMT -5
At least they aren't moving BATB again for when Cult premieres. Still, it's annoying. BATB fans should turn off the TV or change the channel after The Vampire Diaries on that night. I don't want The Carrie Diaries to pull better numbers than BATB on that night. The CW was great in leaving BATB on the same night this Spring; I don't want them to change their mind. I also don't like that we have to wait an additional week so they can be a repeat episode of another show in BATB's timeslot. yes that's good news, they're not moving BATB for Cult. I think the CW is really hoping to make TCD a success, or they wouldn't repeat the pilot over and over. but the pairing with TVD is just weird. I doubt that's the same audience or am I wrong? and what about this BATB repeat on Friday? if the rating are good, is there the possibility that it will be moved to Friday permanently? that would be bad, right?
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Post by Fire And Ice on Dec 28, 2012 20:02:40 GMT -5
yes that's good news, they're not moving BATB for Cult. I think the CW is really hoping to make TCD a success, or they wouldn't repeat the pilot over and over. but the pairing with TVD is just weird. I doubt that's the same audience or am I wrong? CW is no doubt trying to attract the younger viewers who watch TVD by pairing it, for the evening, with TCD. Whether TVD fans will actually want to watch an 80s teen drama based loosely on Sex & the City, I don't know. and what about this BATB repeat on Friday? if the rating are good, is there the possibility that it will be moved to Friday permanently? that would be bad, right? The repeat is nothing to worry about. They've repeated other shows on Friday nights, including Arrow. If BATB can pull good numbers on Friday night, it's a good thing. It doesn't mean the CW will move BATB to Friday nights this season. This will act more as a test to see whether BATB has a dedicated enough fan base that it can be on a night without a TVD lead-in.
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Post by Fire And Ice on Dec 28, 2012 20:08:23 GMT -5
Repeat ratings for TVD and BATB from last night. These are great repeat ratings!
[FORMAT: Show - Viewers (millions) - 18-49 demo rating]
8-9pm: The Vampire Diaries (R) - 1.05 viewers - 0.4/1
9-10pm: Beauty & the Beast (R) - 0.94 viewers - 0.4/1
Once again, BATB matched TVD's demo rating! While repeats, generally, aren't factored into whether or not a show is renewed, it helps that last week and this week, BATB matched TVD's demo rating as TVD is (currently) CW's #1 show in the 18-49 demo.
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Post by soldiervincent on Dec 29, 2012 11:37:11 GMT -5
Repeat ratings for TVD and BATB from last night. These are great repeat ratings! [FORMAT: Show - Viewers (millions) - 18-49 demo rating] 8-9pm: The Vampire Diaries (R) - 1.05 viewers - 0.4/1 9-10pm: Beauty & the Beast (R) - 0.94 viewers - 0.4/1 Once again, BATB matched TVD's demo rating! While repeats, generally, aren't factored into whether or not a show is renewed, it helps that last week and this week, BATB matched TVD's demo rating as TVD is (currently) CW's #1 show in the 18-49 demo. Can you explain what this demo ratings means, please? I can't follow the ratings because I don't understand it. It's good to know that BatB matched TVD, but I wanted to understand more about it.
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Post by Urba on Dec 29, 2012 11:56:06 GMT -5
Repeat ratings for TVD and BATB from last night. These are great repeat ratings! [FORMAT: Show - Viewers (millions) - 18-49 demo rating] 8-9pm: The Vampire Diaries (R) - 1.05 viewers - 0.4/1 9-10pm: Beauty & the Beast (R) - 0.94 viewers - 0.4/1 Once again, BATB matched TVD's demo rating! While repeats, generally, aren't factored into whether or not a show is renewed, it helps that last week and this week, BATB matched TVD's demo rating as TVD is (currently) CW's #1 show in the 18-49 demo. Can you explain what this demo ratings means, please? I can't follow the ratings because I don't understand it. It's good to know that BatB matched TVD, but I wanted to understand more about it. Me too
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Post by dickens on Dec 29, 2012 14:55:40 GMT -5
You are looking at two numbers. The total audience .92 and the demographic rating 0.4/1 . Networks like a younger demographic because they can charge more for advertising if they are reaching a younger demographic. Nikita got a larger audience on Friday than BATB did on Thursday but BATB had a better demo number. It is more important to have a better demo number for the network. Hope that helps. I am hoping some of the younger audience from TVD is giving BATB a chance in reruns.
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Post by Fire And Ice on Dec 29, 2012 15:40:57 GMT -5
You are looking at two numbers. The total audience .92 and the demographic rating 0.4/1 . Networks like a younger demographic because they can charge more for advertising if they are reaching a younger demographic. Nikita got a larger audience on Friday than BATB did on Thursday but BATB had a better demo number. It is more important to have a better demo number for the network. Hope that helps. I am hoping some of the younger audience from TVD is giving BATB a chance in reruns. Urba & @soldiervincent, like dickens explained the networks want a high demographic rating in viewers 18-49 years old. This is because advertisers value viewers 18-49 years old more than other viewers. (I guess people in that age range buy more than others outside of that age range. Not sure if that's entirely accurate or not, but that's what advertisers believe.) A show could have, according to Nielson numbers, 11 million viewers, but if it only has a 0.1 in the demo rating, it will be cancelled. So it really doesn't matter, in the US, how many people are watching a show. It matters to US advertisers, what the age of the viewers is. I do not know if this is how it works internationally, but the fact that on a night of repeats, TVD (who is considered #1 on CW due to its consistently high demographic ratings) tied with BATB for a 0.4 is a good thing. For BATB to survive for a second season, we really need 0.8 demo numbers or higher. We've been pulling a 0.6 on average. This doesn't mean we can't get that number up. We can by promoting the show to people who haven't heard of it, signing petitions, contacting the CW, fan campaigns, talking about BATB on social media, and so on. BATB could get renewed with the 0.6 average if advertisers and the network think it's worth the cost to produce. Beasties just have to show them BATB is worth it. So if BATB can keep consistent numbers (0.6+), has a lot of fan support around the globe, can keep its development costs low enough to turn a profit, and the midseason shows (Cult, Carrie Diaries) fail - we'll probably see a Season 2. CW tends to *wan<edited> to keep at least one new drama for renewal. That doesn't mean they have to, but if BATB is the best of what is there, we have a good chance of surviving. This is tough though because I suspect there may be high numbers for TCD and Cult's premieres (out of viewer curiousity) and BATB will be judged against them, mainly, on BATB's Spring numbers. It won't have its premiere numbers factored in. The CW will be looking to see how well BATB has retained viewers since they had a full season, not a short 13 ep like TCD and Cult. Hope that makes sense.
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Post by Reyna on Dec 29, 2012 18:42:15 GMT -5
It seems the network will be playing around with the time slots for the next couple of weeks. TV Guide has BATB airing on 01/03/2013 and 01/07/2013 at 9:00 PM PST. Not quite certain about the week of 01/13/2013, as someone had stated that Bridesmaid Up was going to air again on 01/18/2013, yet, Saturn Returns will air on 01/03/2013 and Worth will air on 01/07/2013.
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Post by Fire And Ice on Dec 29, 2012 21:50:55 GMT -5
It seems the network will be playing around with the time slots for the next couple of weeks. TV Guide has BATB airing on 01/03/2013 and 01/07/2013 at 9:00 PM PST. Not quite certain about the week of 01/13/2013, as someone had stated that Bridesmaid Up was going to air again on 01/18/2013, yet, Saturn Returns will air on 01/03/2013 and Worth will air on 01/07/2013. I wonder if the CW is trying to attract more viewers for BATB and that is why... hmm... BTW, wanted to update that the final numbers came in for Thursday night's repeat viewing of BATB. It was adjusted down to an 0.3 with 0.91 viewers. TVD stayed at the 0.4. Not a huge adjustment for BATB. It still did very well and had good retention out of TVD's repeat. But it didn't tie with TVD it was 1/10 below.
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Post by oa on Jan 13, 2013 12:53:52 GMT -5
does anyone have any info on how batb is doing in repeat numbers compared to arrow and tvd?
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