Fire And Ice
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Post by Fire And Ice on Jan 23, 2013 22:05:13 GMT -5
Awesome post, curly!!! I agree with you that we don't need emo-stuff and I also don't want "I can't sleep with you because I'd hurt you" nonsense. Not when he's having romantic cabin getaways and ice rink adventures with the ex. TVLine said there's be a kiss between episodes 10-15, but it could be a Valex kiss. You know this is probably not going to turn out well. Alex is pushing to get back with him AND run away with him?! RUN AWAY VINCENT! That girl is PSYCHO!!!!!!!!!! It's been over a decade and he was apparently a POS to her before that time. Sounds like Alex is straight up obsessed with Vincent. And with the hinting that Alex could be back, that better be a joke. 4 and she's done. Forever. I don't want psycho coming back and kidnapping Cat because she can't handle rejection. Okay, time to try to be an optimistic person...maybe Alex goes to kiss Vincent and he pushes her away and at that moment realizes he only wants to be kissing Cat. Then he ditches Alex and goes to Cat and just grabs her and kisses her. I would also like some sweet words and groveling in there too. You know, since he's been a total dick for at least 2 full episodes. (1 - runs into Alex; 2 & 3 - All romantic nonsense; & 4 - reunited with Cat?) Though if he does go straight back to Cat, I kinda hope she kisses him and then slams the door in his face...or I guess the window in his face. I really hope she doesn't melt and is all "I will forget all this happened." She can come around later and forgive him, even the end of that episode or the next episode. Maybe she comes to the warehouse and gets in a fight with him about how she can't keep doing whatever the heck it is they have, that if he wants to be with her, he needs to be with her and then we can get VinCat mouth sex and spooning.... I'll allow it. So much ^^ THIS!! The girl has pride you know..........make him sweat it out for awhile, Cat!! There just HAS TO BE a bit of a feisty/spicy/sassy argument in there somewhere between VinCat.........pleeeeeeese!! YES!!! Also with the feisty/spicy/sassy argument could it be raining, TPTB @ BATB? I kind of want to see both of them yelling at each other in the pouring rain. I know it's been done a lot on other shows, but we've ripped off enough from other shows. I want to see the weather stormy during all that. Them out in the rain and then overcome with emotions. heck yeah.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 23, 2013 22:26:58 GMT -5
So much ^^ THIS!! The girl has pride you know..........make him sweat it out for awhile, Cat!! There just HAS TO BE a bit of a feisty/spicy/sassy argument in there somewhere between VinCat.........pleeeeeeese!! YES!!! Also with the feisty/spicy/sassy argument could it be raining, TPTB @ BATB? I kind of want to see both of them yelling at each other in the pouring rain. I know it's been done a lot on other shows, but we've ripped off enough from other shows. I want to see the weather stormy during all that. Them out in the rain and then overcome with emotions. heck yeah. OOoooooo............I like rain. But, it's cold now.......how about SNOW! Snow falling, ....cold air coming from their mouths while they are arguing with each other. Maybe Cat throws a snowball at him because she gets so angry. Vincent throws one back.........wrestling ensues on the snow covered ground.......Hot/steamy stuff happens.......on and on!! ;D
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jan 23, 2013 23:51:22 GMT -5
I like their strong emotions when arguing but I could go for something more amicable and loving.
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Post by curly on Jan 24, 2013 1:37:22 GMT -5
Ok is anyone else bothered or want to speculate on Jay stating that Alex (on romantic getaway) thinks its a time to "consummate" their relationship again and go "full throttle" when it really proves to be a moment when he "shows his secret"? Does this mean he beasts out when things get hot and heavy with Alex? Are these choice of words to be taken literally? I still can't get over the fact that he is being a jerk. He sounds like a HSchooler who wants to get laid. It's weird. I don't see how Catherine could be on board with him after all this. He'd rather pretend with his ex then be real with the women he loves. Maybe he will be able to get it on with Catherine because she can tame him? lol Somehow think that the writer's can't possibly go there yet but this information is strange. It would be contradictory to all that you would believe could go on with them at this point but then again I never thought he would be on a "romantic getaway" with anyone other than Cat. I guess its possible it can be described as being "a romantic getaway" by circumstance if and when Alex hits on him and not necessarily by his design or plan. ALex just offers to runaway to be with him because she never got over him. Maybe its a one way street thingy. Perhaps its just a game of semantics right now and it all turns out to be "cool" as the writes put it. Not holding my breathe. Catherine needs to drop this one like its hot or at least rip him.
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Post by curly on Jan 24, 2013 1:51:56 GMT -5
Oh and 1 more thing. What are these "wouldve couldve" thoughts Catherine is having? Is she having second thoughts because he exposed himself and she doesn't want to be the reason he gets hurt and thus pushes him away or is she really traumatized by being shot and pushes him away. I don't see her as the scared mamby pamby type. Not too sure I see the latter if she is running around helping him after she was on her death bed in this very episode. Still all leads to him being a jerk. Maybe he overhears something she says to her shrink and takes it the wrong way and considers Alex an alternative? Could use1 or 2 specific spoilers. Oh well guess we will have to wait and see.
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Post by talulahbelle on Jan 24, 2013 2:23:04 GMT -5
A KISS!!!!
OMG! I just heard the news. I was over at TVGuide just to look for something and I saw the news.
Oh, my goodness. I can't believe it.
I haven't even read the whole interview or what anyone has said. I just saw the headline and my eyes just widen.
OMG!!!!
Between the Super Bowl and Scandal and BATB. I am going to be wired. I need to drink coffee to keep up.
OMG!!!!
Maybe wine. That will calm me down right.
~Milo
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Post by evanarose on Jan 24, 2013 2:45:41 GMT -5
So much ^^ THIS!! The girl has pride you know..........make him sweat it out for awhile, Cat!! There just HAS TO BE a bit of a feisty/spicy/sassy argument in there somewhere between VinCat.........pleeeeeeese!! YES!!! Also with the feisty/spicy/sassy argument could it be raining, TPTB @ BATB? I kind of want to see both of them yelling at each other in the pouring rain. I know it's been done a lot on other shows, but we've ripped off enough from other shows. I want to see the weather stormy during all that. Them out in the rain and then overcome with emotions. heck yeah. lol I want to see them argue in the rain with thunder and lightning Then when the lightning is about to struck cat, vincent pulls her away...they are in that embrace (like the 1st ep with the train.) then they kiss! I'm all for angst and drama! But I don't mind if it was the opposite; like Vincent says something/does something funny, cat laughs, they look at each other and kiss..
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Post by talulahbelle on Jan 24, 2013 2:55:25 GMT -5
Yaaaaahoooooo!!!!!
Please post any and all spoilers on "The Kiss".
~Milo
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 9:44:46 GMT -5
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Post by cristybella on Jan 24, 2013 13:46:45 GMT -5
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Post by hcastro on Jan 24, 2013 13:54:16 GMT -5
so as long as they gonna kiss and make up, all the pain that cat must endures during alex arc and the way that vincent toying with her feelings doesn`t matter? I know you guys want them to just be a together and all, but i don`t think it`s a good idea to just let Cat going back to Vincent so fast after alex leaves. TY, Dan! So much this! All of what you said. Sorry, but the way that interview goes, it sounds like Cat has self-esteem issues. I'm all about the VinCat mouth sex, but I don't want to see her kissing him and sexing him up right after Alex leaves. Sorry. Vincent needs to grovel. Oh and any guy being like "You're the love my life, but if you won't run away, I'm going to be tempted to leave you and run away with my ex-fiancee, who, btw, totally adores me more than you love me because she'd totally run away away with me despite the fact that I haven't thought of her in 10 years...." uhhhh...so not romantic! Sorry but Vincent doesn't get to be a cheating dick and then get Cat back like it was nothing. Vincent needs to grovel. If the spoiler is about sex, can their first time not be angry makeup sex?! Great post and I agree with you both. Look, I love the spoilers but I just don't see how Vincent doesn't turn out looking like a wishy-washy jerk in some ways after this. I definitely don't want to see Catherine just taking him back so easily. She will be hurt and for good reason. And I really don't like this "ultimatum business" that Vincent proposes on Catherine. It just seems so OOC for Vincent that he would put that kind of pressure on Catherine and it makes it appear that it's Catherine's "fault" he rekindles a relationship with his Ex. Vincent is a big boy and he is more than capable of making his own decisions. And at least temporarily, he chooses to pursue some kind of relationship with his Ex. By the looks of the spoilers of upcoming episodes and towards the end of the Ex's arc, are we supposed to believe that Catherine takes him back so easily after all this? He needs to work for that and I hope the writers have him doing that. Awesome posts, Curly!! And I have some of the same thoughts of you regarding the spoilers. There is a lot to process when reading them, but I'm still not totally at ease with this Vincent/Ex arc just because we find out VinCat end up making up and perhaps kissing after it. I'm loving the news we got from Jay, but he seems to say a lot of different things in all the interviews and there seems to be a lot of spin there. One thing I got from all those interviews is that he himself says that Vincent is being a bit selfish in some ways when it comes to his Ex and Catherine. And really, that is how I see some of this playing out. Though I feel a little bit better regarding some of the upcoming spoilers, I still think I'll be disappointed with Vincent during these next four episodes and again I hope Catherine just doesn't go back to him so easily making her look pathetic and desperate.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 24, 2013 14:06:31 GMT -5
^^ Absolutely hcastro. I don't like the "Catherine is Vincent's soulmate" ..........and "just remember that as we throw Valex into a mad passionate embrace and off to a romantic weekend where the two are having wine and romance"!! Oh No........you just can't expect this VinCat fan to just scrub her mind clean of any lovey-dovey Valex scenes and all is forgiven. The way the one interview seems like Vincent AND Alex both want to rekindle romantically.....and while they are......are "we", the fans are just suppose to watch and remember......"Vincent and Catherine are Soulmates.........."!
That's a little much to ask or tolerate.
Why would Vincent, as Jay said, think Cat is afraid of him and he isn't worried that Alex wouldn't be as well? Confused.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 14:17:27 GMT -5
^^^I don't think Vincent will tell Alex about his beast.....just my speculation. Did I read somewhere that Cat encourages Vincent to explore his feelings for Alex? And then he realizes he doesn't have feelings for her anymore?
Maybe this is my wishful thinking!
My head is starting to hurt over this...LOL
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Post by hcastro on Jan 24, 2013 14:28:19 GMT -5
^^ Absolutely hcastro. I don't like the "Catherine is Vincent's soulmate" ..........and "just remember that as we throw Valex into a mad passionate embrace and off to a romantic weekend where the two are having wine and romance"!! Oh No........you just can't expect this VinCat fan to just scrub her mind clean of any lovey-dovey Valex scenes and all is forgiven. The way the one interview seems like Vincent AND Alex both want to rekindle romantically.....and while they are......are "we", the fans are just suppose to watch and remember......"Vincent and Catherine are Soulmates.........."! That's a little much to ask or tolerate. Why would Vincent, as Jay said, think Cat is afraid of him and he isn't worried that Alex wouldn't be as well? Confused. Exactly, SuzieQ. It seems to me the uproar over the Vincent/Ex arc has got the TPTB a little panicked. Those Jay interviews are really spoilery, he basically lays out a lot of what is going to happen and I LOVE Jay, I really do. But part of me thinks that he spoiled so much because he's also afraid of what kind of backlash his character may get because of this arc. And is it not a coincidence that the TPTB let out the Valentine's day description already that includes Vincent attempting to do something romantic for Catherine? I would think it's a bit early to release the episode synopsis for that, but I also think that's an attempt to ease the fans who have concern about this EX storyline. Just because they released some really good UPCOMING VinCat stuff doesn't mean I'm just going to forget all the heartbreak/angst that we'll be getting with this storyline. Yes, we know VinCat are "soulmates".."meant to be"...etc.. , but it doesn't mean we are going to just readily accept stupid story lines or arcs because we know VinCat is endgame. ETA: WOW, THIS IS BIG....Beauty and the Beast' Promotes Sendhil Ramamurthy to Series Regular (Exclusive)www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/beauty-beast-sendhil-ramamurthy-is-414914VERY interesting. I fear more love triangles to come...sigh...
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Post by curly on Jan 24, 2013 19:58:12 GMT -5
This upgrade in status for the ADA means 3 things IMO 1.) He has chemistry with KK 2.) There will be a love triangle with them. 3.) There will be a season 2. (they know even if the actors dont)
Does anyone know if they have written the back 7 episodes yet.?
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