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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 13, 2016 9:40:20 GMT -5
MUST sadly go do some work now. When I come back, I EXPECT some Beasties to give me RE-CAPS!!! I NEED DETAILS NOW!! (Patience is NOT a virtue in Beastie-world!)
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 13, 2016 9:46:26 GMT -5
THANKS LUNA!!!!!! (I will withdraw claws now that had become extended due to needing episode information.)
So it sounds like the "new job" for Cat will create friction, since she will undoubtedly be showing up for some of the same cases as Tess. And JT actually QUIT the university? What will he do now? So an interesting episode of new beginnings, at least employment-wise!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 9:47:20 GMT -5
About Jay's ABS.. in all his other TV show he show us more than his ABS.. thinking about Go Girls or Offspring.. and he stayed on the stage for his one man show in theatre half naked so nudity it isn't a problem for him... but in all those show there there was no morbidity about that among viewer. In this case nudity doesn't fit to the show and plus KK doesn't get naked too... so it could be a little weird
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Post by jefferen on Jun 13, 2016 11:32:36 GMT -5
I really liked this episode. For me it's a very good episode. What i really liked in this episode, there was more scenes between Vincat and Catherine. I liked that much . I think that what i loved about season 4. More and more Vincat moments. They are funny and the important thing no bickering toward each other. They are sweet and really in love. I really liked when V said 'baby' in the fight scene and the final scene it's so sweet " owh baby! How's ur day ?" and word 'my wife' he said it again ... I liked the moment Cat and Tess at the precinct. arh , It's really touched. One of the things i missed in the S3. And poor JT .. Come on Tess give the guy break ... But just one think that i really don't like . Why Vincent still wear the round shirt while wear the collar shirt. Why must he wears it on the top . I really miss that abs . ahaha ... About the intimacy moments they do it off the screen, it's a little bit frustration but it's not a big deal. Hope the moment will come . Hopefully . For me we can't compare any other season to S1. S1 is very phenomenally and really special. For now i will enjoy, spread love and cheer this season finale as much as i can Oh! sorry for my English . This is my first review that i write quite long in English. I agree! I swooned so hard whenever V refered to Cat as "my wife" and "baby" just too damn sweet.
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Post by jefferen on Jun 13, 2016 11:38:00 GMT -5
I don't have time to write a more detailed opinion of the episode, but I loved it. Many VinCat moments even if they faded them out, tess and cat scenes and I also loved kyle and Heather scenes for my surprise! Three questions for you guys though: Do you think Jay added that three minutes thing himself? It felt similar to tying Cat for the third time notion in season 1 (or was that 2?) Also do you think Jay has a problem with nudity nowadays? We used to see him (as well as all the other dudes on cw) half-naked half the time, but I think the last time we had that bliss was a way too long time ago. (Hopefully nobody is offended for me asking this, but the thought just crossed my mind) Do you think kyle is actually nice guy or is he after Vincent somehow too? I hope for the first but fear for the latter. Has anyone thought of these too? According to a Hitower tweet Jay appears completely naked with a well placed prop in one of the episodes I forget which episode maybe 404, 405, 406, 407, I'd have to look back through the threads to be sure
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Post by pippin on Jun 13, 2016 11:57:22 GMT -5
I don't have time to write a more detailed opinion of the episode, but I loved it. Many VinCat moments even if they faded them out, tess and cat scenes and I also loved kyle and Heather scenes for my surprise! Three questions for you guys though: Do you think Jay added that three minutes thing himself? It felt similar to tying Cat for the third time notion in season 1 (or was that 2?) Also do you think Jay has a problem with nudity nowadays? We used to see him (as well as all the other dudes on cw) half-naked half the time, but I think the last time we had that bliss was a way too long time ago. (Hopefully nobody is offended for me asking this, but the thought just crossed my mind) Do you think kyle is actually nice guy or is he after Vincent somehow too? I hope for the first but fear for the latter. Has anyone thought of these too? According to a Hitower tweet Jay appears completely naked with a well placed prop in one of the episodes I forget which episode maybe 404, 405, 406, 407, I'd have to look back through the threads to be sure Since this is the episode thread and we want to avoid spoilers, the answer is here
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 14:57:30 GMT -5
I really loved this episode. It was VinCat-cuteness-overload for me. True, their scenes aren't all steamy hot, but at least we're getting something in contrast to S3 - we didn't even know when and IF they were making love in almost any episode. So this was a BIG plus point for me seeing that or better said: that we're getting hints that it's happening. LOL.
I loved how Vincent called Cat "babe" and "honey" almost all the time. He's just too happy to make everyone realize that he's married to the NOW DHS Agent with that pretty face. He's so protective of her and I love it. Oh, I loved how Vincent was cheering for her while Cat was fighting. They are so playful with each other and this makes me happy that they still have some kind of a private life despite all the craziness that is going on in their lifes.
Tess is honestly getting on my nerves with her comments and wanting to live a normal life. I feel sorry for JT that his girlfriend doesn't understand him at all.
Well, now at least JT & Heather do have something in common: both are now unemployed. And, so far I like Kyle. He seems like a nice guy, but I still have this gut feeling that he might be a bad guy. Maybe he doesn't know that Vincent is the one he's after, but I think when everything comes out and he realizes that, he will be for Vincent because he has fallen in love with Heather or so. BTW I really enjoyed Heather in this episode.
So far so good. I don't know, maybe I am just one of the few people that is really enjoying this season so far. Maybe it's because it's the last season and I am constantly comparing it to S3 and well, I have to admit that S4 is so much better. Although, I really would like to see more of Vincent's abs, but that's just something for another episode that's going to happen, hopefully.
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Post by evanarose on Jun 13, 2016 17:56:17 GMT -5
Woo hoo episode available early again! I actually had a feeling last week was a one off because we had to wait for the 1st episode, so hopefully it continues!
Ok dokeys, without further ado my thoughts for the episode:
So whoever wrote the script, for some reason the dialogue really stuck with me this episode! Like some scenes were quite witty and smart. For instance; the scene at the start when Vincent tracks down JT, and after when Vincat talk about juggling different things, then Cat mentioned about barely making it & Vincent says " Barely is better than not at all".Then they got 3 mins to go and they make the most of it lol! I like this scene!
That scene when Tess says, " At least someone loves me." Then JT says, " I love you. " After she left, I'm like aww! It's just the way he said it! And unfortunately Tess didn't hear that! But I also liked that part when Vincent apologized to JT for snapping at him and that short scene at the start when JT and Vincent had their little chat! Although too short!
I thought Tess would give a little credit to JT..I mean it was obvious to me that I would have assumed it was obvious to her that JT was trying to tell her earlier the news! Then when I saw that scene with her walking off.. I'm like seriously?! Yes you're busy, but it's obvious JT is trying to tell something important! And the scene before when JT was telling her we need time to chat, you'd think she'd pick up on it! And maybe she could've been a little bit more emphatic about how it's hard to talk about this issue, hence not telling sooner. Like when she was saying " That's not an excuse, " I was thinking well you haven't really given a chance!
So the bounty hunter...who could it be? I really hope it's not the guy with Heather, although they are kinda setting it up that way. Other than him asking a few questions, which I think probably any guy would ask anyway...I haven't found any dodgy vibes. But because Heather knows the secret, I'm guessing the writers see this as a potential plot in how Heather will cope keeping the secret. But seriously it would be nice to have a twist and know he's not involved at all...even if he knows who it is.
I was looking at the girl beaten up, how she said " No hospital, they will find out." I was trying to read if there was something more to that..I don't know :/ I guess she was referring to the suspect guy (whos name I can't spell lol). Speaking of him, the actor was really good! When he pleaded he didn't know anything about the bounty hunter, I actually genuinely believed that! Not that he was pretending. Then he's accent too! Don't know If it's real or not but it sounded good. Not sure exactly what accent he was supposed to do..actually I'm not really good at picking up accents but it sounded European to me. Anyway it could be that there's someone involved in the boxing higher than him :/ Well to me, it makes sense whoever the bounty hunter is he/she would use boxing to lure the beast but then again you wouldn't assume a beast would just go boxing hmm :/ lol so confused! Anyway, we'll see what happens!
Vincent seems all sainty now! Well I wouldn't go that far but is really in control of his powers...I'd even say the human part is dominant and maybe he's out of practise with it abit. Though I think he's making the extra effort to be careful.
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Post by rose on Jun 13, 2016 19:01:55 GMT -5
Like the others before, l liked this episode better than last week's. I was happy to see Kyle back. I guess it's no secret that I like him. I liked his scene with Vincent and I couldn't help but say to myself, Vincent can't you at least try and be nicer to Kyle, he is potentially your sister in law's boyfriend. I thought their interaction was fun and cute.
I also liked that Cat is now working for DHS. I think this works better as we don't have to watch Tess moan about having to cover up for them and I also think it puts Cat and Tess at par. I did not particularly like the dynamic were Tess has more power and see her pull the I am your boss card a few times.
I enjoyed the Vincat interactions and playfulness. They seem happy and in love with each other despite the potential dangers around them. I think they are a contrast to Tess and JT. Recently they seem to spent most of their time arguing and they seem miserable. They do not really seem to listen to each other. I wish they could just let each other be who they choose to be and try to be happy in their relationship.
Overall I think it was a lighthearted solid episode with Cat and Vincent taking most of the screen time and working as a team. And I am glad that they finally clarified why JT turned down tenure from the the University because from last week I couldn't figure out why he would do that.
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Post by AlisongladaboutSeason4 on Jun 14, 2016 14:09:24 GMT -5
Really love this episode and the easy, comfortable relationship that is developing between Cat and Vincent this season. The rings on their fingers seem to have had a good effect on them and they seem happy together despite the ugly threat of a bounty hunter after Vincent. This episode is teeming with little examples of their love for each other and it left me feeling all warm and fuzzy inside. So much so that I thought I might do a detailed synopsis for those who either don't live in Canada or can't watch online but still want to be 'spoiled'.
Well, the episode begins with Vincent coming out of a building and he appears to be trying to use his beast sense to track someone. He is struggling to focus before he finally sees JT being bundled into a van by two men in hoodies. He then tracks the van, from which the sounds of fighting are coming and flings open the doors to see JT, playing a computer game on a handheld console. It transpires that this was a test to see if Vincent's tracking skills are working correctly, probably a throw back to him losing Cat in 4x01. Vincent is happy he passed the test but JT reminds him his break is nearly over and he has to get back to the Hospital. He also asks Vincent for advice on how to break the news to Tess that he has turned down tenure and is now unemployed. As Vincent rushes away he calls to JT to just be honest with Tess. Vincent arrives at the hospital with 5 mins to spare and changes whilst he talks to Cat about the craziness of their lives. She says they don't even have time to pay their bills or do their laundry. He is more concerened that they make time to make love (swoon) He is positive that they CAN cope with all the day to day stuff, their 'wonderful marriage' (swoon again) and the beast bounty stuff. She tells him she has to meet Hill at DHS as he has a lead but Vincent hugs her and says they still have three minutes of his break. She laughs that three minutes is not long enough for what he has in mind but he picks her up and kisses her...fade to black.
Next scene is between JT and Tess and is short. JT says they need to make time to talk. She is too busy but can meet him later for drinks. Just before she goes, she tells him to phone the University to find out about tenure.
Cat is at DHS when Deputy Secretary Hill walks in. He is still worried about his skin, despite the hack last week having nothing to do with Vincent. He wants Cat to work full time on finding out about the beast bounty and has a lead, A German arms dealer/bounty hunter has come to NY and turned up dead in an alley. It may be linked to an underground boxing ring (a case Tess has been dealing with at NYPD). Hill says Cat needs to investigate it independent of DHS and the NYPD. When Cat says she'll run it by her boss, Hill hands her a DHS badge and says she now works for him. Meanwhile Vincent is at the hospital and is accosted by Kyle who wants to know if he has a chance with Heather. He has sent her 4 bouquets of flowers and texted her repeatedly but got no answer. Vincent says it's not a good time and makes an excuse to get away.
Tess is leaning over the body of the dead bounty hunter. It's clear he's been in a fight as he has cuts and bruises and is naked to the waist. She takes a token from his pocket with an insignia on it. Cat turns up and drops the double bombshell that she now works for DHS and this is now her case. Tess is hurt Cat didn't tell her sooner as she hands the token to Cat. Cat says she'll also need the files on the fight club. Cat and Vincent are now in the hall of their apartment and Vincent is thrilled about Cat's new role, despite it meaning they'll have even less time. Cat tells Vincent she has hired an assistant to help them manage their busy lives. She opens the door and Heather is in the apartment, on the phone, paying one of their bills. She has done some errands for them and is on her way to the hospital to take Vincent's lab coat. Cat asks her if she is really trying to see Kyle. Heather says no and leaves. Vincent and Cat discuss the case and it seems the dead guy is linked to another arms dealer called Majani. Cat thinks he may be the one who put up the bounty on Vincent as Vincent would appear to Majani to be the ultimate weapon - a super soldier. She shows him the token as she thinks it will gain them entry to the secret fight club, if they can find it. Vincent is worried that he may have to fight and so is Cat (scared he could beast out whilst fighting) but hopefully, it won't come to that.
Next scene - JT & Tess - is short again at Il Cantuccio. JT wants to talk about tenure but he can tell Tess is already unhappy. She tells him about Cat leaving to work for DHS and she's annoyed Cat didn't tell her sooner. JT, thinking about his own situation says maybe Cat was worried how Tess would take the news, Tess says that's no excuse. JT is even more worried about his news but decides to spill the beans, but Tess has to go as she has to reassign all Cat's cases. She says don't wait up and leaves a frustrated JT. Heather is at the hospital holding Vincent's lab coat when Kyle calls after her. He asks why she hasn't returned his calls/texts and if she liked the flowers. He says he thinks Vincent doesn't like him. Heather says who wouldn't like you. He smiles at this. She says it's complicated and walks away.
Now the story gets interesting. Cat and Vincent are in Chinatown. Vincent has tracked the dead guy in the alley back to this spot where he says the body was dragged from. The club must be nearby. Vincent pounds on a door and a peep hole opens. He shows the token and he and Cat are admitted to a seedy underground den. Cat says this doesn't look like a place that the wealthy Majani would be seen in. The fight organiser overhears and says that Majani isn't there. He'll only see the main event. This is an audition. He asks if they want to sign up. Vincent tries to take the clipboard but the organiser says the men's bouts have closed. Now it's time for the women only. Vincent is unhappy when Cat says she wants to sign up.
Meanwhile, Heather is back at VinCat apartment on phone, having trouble with one of their bills. She is put on hold when JT comes in to get the Majani files. He confides in Heather about his problem with Tess. She is no help as she tells him Tess will kill him when she finds out what he's done. JT even more worried now. Cat and Vincent talk while he straps up her hands for the fight, He is still unhappy about this new plan but Cat says they have no choice. This is the only way to get to Majani. It's going to be a four-way, last woman standing bout. Vincent gives Cat tips on how to win. One girl has a surgical scar on her leg, old injury. Another is a kick-boxer and he knows that's Cat's strength too. Lastly, he tells her not to let anyone hurt her pretty face. It's cute (double swoon). The fight begins. Cat gets hit but recovers and begins to do OK as Vincent coaches her from the sidelines in an adorable way. Go for the leg. Get up, baby. Cat wins but one of the girls is seriously hurt. As Cat's the winner she is taken off to another fight somewhere else. Vincent is frantic as he's told no coaches allowed, only fighters. She doesn't go anywhere without me he says . Another major swoon. As she's taken away, Cat reassures him that the injured girl needs him first and after that he can find her. He always finds her. (Ahhh!)
Vincent is in the hospital and covers for the injured girl as she doesn't want anyone to know about the fight club. She's worried as now she's lost she says she and her family are not safe. Majani got them out of debt and now owns her. Vincent promises her that if she helps him find his wife, he'll make sure she never has to worry about Majani again.
Back at JT's and he' s still packing. Tess comes in and she's pissed. She's found out about tenure from the landlord of their new place. She's obviously angry he didn't tell her himself. JT accepts that she has a right to be angry but Vincent has asked him to help find Cat. Vincent comes in and asks JT if he's had any luck finding where Majani is. Tess knows the files as it was her case and helps Vincent with an address of a club. Vincent leaves telling Tess 'I love you'. She leaves to go with him saying 'I'm glad someone does'. This is a barb directed at JT as she thinks his decision to turn down tenure means he's not committed to their relationship. He says' I love you', but she has already left with Vincent.
Cat is being led out, blindfolded, at Majani's club. It's a swanky joint with VIPs' and she is put in a cage with another female fighter. She tries to make small talk to no avail, The bell goes and she is hit and falls to the floor. Vincent and Tess are in the car on their way to the club. Vincent's phone goes. It's the hospital and he is late for his shift. He confides in Tess that he is finding it hard to juggle his and Cat's careers, bounties, bills and everything else. He thought things would be simpler when they got married. Tess tells him they are 10 mins away. He says Cat may not have 10 mins and gets frustrated with the traffic.
Back at the club, Cat is losing and Majani is losing interest in the fight, He gets up to leave. Cat raises her game and knocks out her opponent with an unladylike head-butt. Majani smiles. At that moment. Tess bursts in with NYPD back-up and arrests everyone. Majani is budled out the back but is caught up by Cat, who tells him she's a federal agent and he is under arrest, not only for the fighting club but for putting a $5 million bounty on her husband. He laughs but says 'what bounty?' before telling his two bodyguards to shoot her. They point their guns but one by one they are taken out in a blur by Vincent leaving Majani to ask 'What was that?'. Cat say 'I think you already know' . Vincent growls behind Majani who turns into a snivelling wretch out of fear of Vincent. Cat concludes that perhaps he didn't know about the bounty after all.
Tess is talking to Vincent and says SWAT nearly saw him beast out and Majani DID see him. Vincent says 'who will believe him'. He thanks her for the warning and she says you're welcome. He goes over to see Cat whose being treated by a Medic. He asks for a minute with her and says he's a doctor and her husband, at least he hopes he still is. Cat smiles at him and he takes his leather jacket off and puts it around her shoulders in a protective way. He touches the bad wound on her cheek and she winces. He says jokingly, 'I told you not to let anyone hurt your pretty little face' and she hits him playfully. He apologises for not getting to her sooner. She forgives him as his phone goes again and he tells her he really has to go to the hospital. He offers to get the Medic back and she says, 'OK, he's cute'. Vincent shows mock disapproval and reminds her she's married. This scene is just adorable in every way possible. Their chemistry and playfulness, but most of all, their love for each other, is just too much. It's not season one feels but is almost as good as they would not have been this comfortable with each other in season 1.
Next is an emotional scene between Tess and Cat as the latter gives back her NYPD badge. Cat says it could be only temporary but Tess says she has a feeling it's for good and their partnership is over. Cat says they can share information on cases and still collaborate. They hug and both are in tears as Cat says, 'Bright side, at least you won't have to cover for me any more'.
Heather is drinking alone in a bar when Kyle comes in. He basically says he likes her too much to let their one night stand be just that. He doesn't care about her family secrets. Heather agrees to have a relationship with him but just asks him not to ask too many questions. He jokingly says something like, 'like what?' and smiles. She smiles back and they share a kiss.
Penultimate scene is between JT and Tess. The gist of it is that she is upset because she feels that he has made a big decision without her. He doesn't know what he wants to do next but she does. She wants to do her job well and move in with him. She says it would be crazy for him to take a big step like moving in with her if he is unsure about what he wants to do. They agree that they both love each other. JT says where do they go from here and Tess says she doesn't know.
Last scene is between Vincent and Cat. He comes home from his shift at the hospital to find her on the sofa surrounded by candles with an ice pack to her face. He calls her honey and asks her how was her day?, where does it hurt? She says where doesn't it hurt. He tries to turn the light on but they have been cut off due to Heather's inept efforts to pay their bills and organise them. Cat has fired her as their assistant but Heather was relieved as their lives were just too complicated. They talk about the bounty and Cat says that she now has doubts whether it really exists but Vincent says, if it does, they can't afford to let their guard down. Cat asks what they do now and Vincent says only one thing and blows out the candles. Fade to black as Vincent kisses her. We hear her let out small noises of either pain or pleasure and then the title music.
There it is. Think I got most of it.
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Post by pippin on Jun 15, 2016 1:10:23 GMT -5
AlisongladaboutSeason4 I think you got most of it too. I'm wondering if in the beginning of S4 they were trying to show how they could do more seasons. They would establish that someone or some organization was trying to kill, capture, expose, exploit V and then each week the gang would pursue "leads" which wouldn't amount to anything or be unrelated ala Bootsie and Medjani until the big bad would be revealed in the last four or five episodes, whichever number SAG/AFTRA allows before a guest star is considered recurring and paid at a different scale.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 1:56:29 GMT -5
Two things: 1 - love when Heather says "ciao" at the end of the phone call while paying from the online bank... another piece of italian language after Vincent's "sì" ... it's a pity that these little things will not be hear in our translation
2 - refereces to Street Fighters (KK's film few years ago) and maybe to Bleeders (JR's short film few years ago): Vin tells Cat "You are not a street fighter" while preparing her for the fight, and the girl Vin takes to the hospital is a fighter on whose life someone bets for win or loose like in bleeders
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Post by Jewels on Jun 16, 2016 1:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by bbatb on Jun 16, 2016 2:49:25 GMT -5
Sorry Jewels, I cannot open this. Do you have another link?
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Post by Jewels on Jun 16, 2016 3:05:25 GMT -5
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