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Post by ArwenFan on Jun 11, 2014 10:36:51 GMT -5
My quibble is tiny compared to your list... When Catherine is kidnapped by the FBI, she's wearing a blouse in her bedroom. By the time they get her to their hideout, she's got a coat. Very nice of these FBI kidnappers to grab her coat on the way out, so poor Catherine doesn't freeze to death! (You guys win, I've only watched it twice.) lol there are so many of these things but i never pay attention with batb at them for example, when catherine leaves vincent to enter the un she is wearing her coat but then leaves it somewhere (i assume) once she enters the building since she is not seen wearing it. later on she is scene with her coat again, say when she goes to the agent and gabe. Don't care about any of this stuff because I was paying attention to the story. This episode rocked.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 11, 2014 12:01:15 GMT -5
lol there are so many of these things but i never pay attention with batb at them for example, when catherine leaves vincent to enter the un she is wearing her coat but then leaves it somewhere (i assume) once she enters the building since she is not seen wearing it. later on she is scene with her coat again, say when she goes to the agent and gabe. Don't care about any of this stuff because I was paying attention to the story. This episode rocked. Yes same here I know there are many plotholes but it does not bother me with batb
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Post by raniamahd on Jun 11, 2014 12:59:57 GMT -5
you made a good points dear but for the first one i see it in a different way ?yes the whole ep he was the one said that they should not run anymore and fight back , but Cat didn't really give him a straight answer , did she ? so i see his question on the rooftop not as he is doubting or questioning himself again but as a demand for her final answer , a certain answer because from this point and up there is no turning back , so they both have to be sure ! as for the third point ? Vincent did recover all his memory back long time ago , it was confirmed from Mr. Kern on interviews but they didn't say it in a clear loud words on the screen for some reasons ! i agree with the rest of your post and enjoy reading it too You are onto something here raniamahd. I didn't think about it like that. i just thought they were being their usual repetitive selves. But if take your point, then the question, seeking a final answer, becomes necessary. it could by both ? yes he maybe was acting like his old self , unsecured and guilty because of all the risk and sacrifice Cat has to do to be with him , but because he did say early in the episode that she can walk away for her own good and he would understand and added in this scene (i am nothing but trouble ) therefore i felt like he meant to say ( now you are aware what exactly you will get yourself in , so what is your answer ? are you in ? ) and i think she gave him her final answer when she said ( we will have a future together i promise ) --- i also think there is a balance in sacrifice now because they are aware Vincent in this because he wants to by with Cat and he could save himself from all those troubles if he just stayed away from her !
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Post by BeastieBoy on Jun 11, 2014 13:14:29 GMT -5
I kept noticing the coat because I think KK looks better when she's not wearing one. But it must have been cold for much of the season, cause it seems like she's wearing a heavy coat more often than not. Even in the indoor shots when others aren't wearing coats, she often has one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 17:02:56 GMT -5
Don't care about any of this stuff because I was paying attention to the story. This episode rocked. Yes same here I know there are many plotholes but it does not bother me with batb You can overlook this stuff......to a point, but eventually it becomes distracting and you can't help but notice. The largest one this season is Gabe. I can't figure out whether he's a cop or a lawyer. He appears to transition effortlessly between the two professions. This last episode he's a lawyer.....I guess.....but he leads the SWAT cops into Cat's apartment with weapon drawn. - edit -
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 11, 2014 17:12:28 GMT -5
Yes same here I know there are many plotholes but it does not bother me with batb You can overlook this stuff......to a point, but eventually it becomes distracting and you can't help but notice. The largest one this season is Gabe. I can't figure out whether he's a cop or a lawyer. He appears to transition effortlessly between the two professions. This last episode he's a lawyer.....I guess.....but he leads the SWAT cops into Cat's apartment with weapon drawn. - edit -he's a lawcop. new profession.
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Post by kiki09 on Jun 11, 2014 17:30:00 GMT -5
Yes same here I know there are many plotholes but it does not bother me with batb You can overlook this stuff......to a point, but eventually it becomes distracting and you can't help but notice. The largest one this season is Gabe. I can't figure out whether he's a cop or a lawyer. He appears to transition effortlessly between the two professions. This last episode he's a lawyer.....I guess.....but he leads the SWAT cops into Cat's apartment with weapon drawn. - edit -Gabe doesn't even know what profession he holds. One episode he's telling us he's leaving the precinct to do something else, couple episodes later he's bossing around the new head of the precinct and like you said, leading SWAT. anapi -season3baby :) totally lawcop! I think he's just testing out both professions to figure out which one he wants to stick with
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Post by feezya on Jun 11, 2014 17:41:18 GMT -5
Our Lilith is back! Totally forgotten about her. Did she do a recap on last week's episode btw?
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 11, 2014 17:51:37 GMT -5
To Feezya --YES Lillith did a review of last week's episode as well. It was a really good one, too.
As to Gabe: I think 218 set in motion the Gabe going Insane and returning to Beast mode. Gabe has now totally become isolated, is set on a course of revenge no matter who suffers from it, and is obsessed with the power that he is acquiring on his quest to destroy Vincent. That need to be in total Control and Destroy literally is what I think will bring the Beast out of him. I am convinced that it was Cat's influence (and I really think we will find that is part of her ancestral "gift" passed down from her ancestor--her ability to "slay" or hold back the Inner Beast) that kept the Beast dormant for this season. Gabe initially embraced doing the right thing and trying to make amends FOR CAT. As we saw with Vincent, you need to make amends because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO and not just to please someone else. Gabe is now isolated and cannot keep completely disillusioning himself that he is doing what he is doing for any reasons other than his own. I think that Gabe's transformation to ultimate Big Beast Bad sets up the ancestor arc nicely as I believe that we will find that third parties brought down Rebecca and her beast in this manner.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 11, 2014 18:14:22 GMT -5
Other thing to note on Gabe as well: Gabe LEFT the precinct initially because he felt he had made amends, cleaned up Joe's "mess" (and remember, Joe lost HIS job due to obsession over the Vigilante-aka Beast, Vincent. This is a common theme running through BATB that if you obsess over Revenge, you lose yourself utterly and completely and hurt the ones you love.) and wanted to have a life OUTSIDE of Beasts. Gabe is finally ready to move forward and see what his life can be, for the first time, when not obsessed by destroying something. The problem is that Gabe's life HAS always been about destroying something and gaining power while doing so. Gabe's Return to the Precinct is a return to Beast-obsession and destruction, replacing destroying Muirfield with destroying Vincent. Gabe has really gone BEYOND coming full circle--he is WORSE, as Cat states in 218.
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Post by ArwenFan on Jun 11, 2014 21:31:25 GMT -5
Other thing to note on Gabe as well: Gabe LEFT the precinct initially because he felt he had made amends, cleaned up Joe's "mess" (and remember, Joe lost HIS job due to obsession over the Vigilante-aka Beast, Vincent. This is a common theme running through BATB that if you obsess over Revenge, you lose yourself utterly and completely and hurt the ones you love.) and wanted to have a life OUTSIDE of Beasts. Gabe is finally ready to move forward and see what his life can be, for the first time, when not obsessed by destroying something. The problem is that Gabe's life HAS always been about destroying something and gaining power while doing so. Gabe's Return to the Precinct is a return to Beast-obsession and destruction, replacing destroying Muirfield with destroying Vincent. Gabe has really gone BEYOND coming full circle--he is WORSE, as Cat states in 218. I don't believe destroying Muirfield was ever on Gabe's agenda. I believe that was a lie he spun to gain trust and get in with Vincat. When he found out the only way to cure his beast was to kill Vincent he was all for it. I also don't believe that Gabe left the precinct because he cleaned up Joe's mess, I believe that was a calculated move to push Catherine his way.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 11, 2014 21:38:56 GMT -5
Other thing to note on Gabe as well: Gabe LEFT the precinct initially because he felt he had made amends, cleaned up Joe's "mess" (and remember, Joe lost HIS job due to obsession over the Vigilante-aka Beast, Vincent. This is a common theme running through BATB that if you obsess over Revenge, you lose yourself utterly and completely and hurt the ones you love.) and wanted to have a life OUTSIDE of Beasts. Gabe is finally ready to move forward and see what his life can be, for the first time, when not obsessed by destroying something. The problem is that Gabe's life HAS always been about destroying something and gaining power while doing so. Gabe's Return to the Precinct is a return to Beast-obsession and destruction, replacing destroying Muirfield with destroying Vincent. Gabe has really gone BEYOND coming full circle--he is WORSE, as Cat states in 218. I don't believe destroying Muirfield was ever on Gabe's agenda. I believe that was a lie he spun to gain trust and get in with Vincat. When he found out the only way to cure his beast was to kill Vincent he was all for it. I also don't believe that Gabe left the precinct because he cleaned up Joe's mess, I believe that was a calculated move to push Catherine his way. Gabe's AGENDA has always been to 'EXPOSE' Vincent for his so called 'cure' or to get Vincent to help him. M was just in the way and Gabe used the hate Vincent had for them to get the GANG to play his game. Gabe now is showing his true colors when he said "He wants to DESTROY Vincent'
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Post by feezya on Jun 12, 2014 7:08:58 GMT -5
VinCat❤Destined mercyyyy and merci for the slowmo kisses as your sig. great way to de-stress today
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Post by wanderer on Jun 12, 2014 8:58:26 GMT -5
You can overlook this stuff......to a point, but eventually it becomes distracting and you can't help but notice. The largest one this season is Gabe. I can't figure out whether he's a cop or a lawyer. He appears to transition effortlessly between the two professions. This last episode he's a lawyer.....I guess.....but he leads the SWAT cops into Cat's apartment with weapon drawn. - edit -he's a lawcop. new profession. Law cop = new profession writers created so Gabe could have more screen time. Sendil must have the best agent on the planet to come onto the show half way through the season and become a main character that nobody likes!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 12, 2014 8:59:56 GMT -5
VinCat❤Destined mercyyyy and merci for the slowmo kisses as your sig. great way to de-stress today ROTFL THANK YOU! ! Glad they can detract you in a good way
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