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Post by evanarose on Oct 21, 2013 6:19:56 GMT -5
So I just watched the episode...the acting was definately the strength! I even give Nicole (Heather.) credit for her acting this episode! Even though sometimes it's like gah Heather! You didn't want her to go either! I hope she'll come back as a guest, though the way they made it out to be maybe not :/ Arrrgh...I can't believe the writers went there with 'Gabe'! I mean that they even mention the possibly of him liking Cat *gag*! I really can't see it (them together.) lol. I had a bad feeling that they were going down that route, that it was going to be mentioned on the show :/ But seriously I preferred Evan as that role! I preferred Gabe with that chick he was with before. I really hope they don't go further with it...but atm it seems like Cat is losing trust in V, but gaining trust in Gabe which isn't a good feeling :/ It was good to see JT and V together earlier in the episode. Although it felt quite awkward. JT seemed almost scared/intimidated by him. I suppose that makes sense since HE isn't the old V. It just wasn't quite like old times, felt abit dark. I miss JTs one liners towards him BUT found it quite entertaining and random he was skipping of all things I'm abit confused about the neck injury? He didn't injure her there right? It was like a push to the ground...Please explain LOL. Also the end when that Sebastian guy fell to the ground. We didn't see the footage, but I assume that V finished him off? And Cat saw it? Ekk..hmm not sure what to say ALTHOUGH that guy was annoying appearing and disappearing. BUT he seemed stronger than V, so I wouldn't have thought falling to the ground would have knocked him out :/ The end scene...awww so tense, dramatic lol. I felt the pain from both sides. It was sad that Cat didn't believe him but she DID have a point that she doesn't know about what his up to. I kind of hoped for a scene where V would've comforted her after what she told him about her dad...BUT yeah, there wasn't really any of that. That was annoying when Cat mentioned it and V stomped off. Yes, he knew he lied to her but I dunno, it was so abrupt like :/
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Post by kiki09 on Oct 21, 2013 6:28:07 GMT -5
So I just watched the episode...the acting was definately the strength! I even give Nicole (Heather.) credit for her acting this episode! Even though sometimes it's like gah Heather! You didn't want her to go either! I hope she'll come back as a guest, though the way they made it out to be maybe not :/ Arrrgh...I can't believe the writers went there with 'Gabe'! I mean that they even mention the possibly of him liking Cat *gag*! I really can't see it (them together.) lol. I had a bad feeling that they were going down that route, that it was going to be mentioned on the show :/ But seriously I preferred Evan as that role! I preferred Gabe with that chick he was with before. I really hope they don't go further with it...but atm it seems like Cat is losing trust in V, but gaining trust in Gabe which isn't a good feeling :/ It was good to see JT and V together earlier in the episode. Although it felt quite awkward. JT seemed almost scared/intimidated by him. I suppose that makes sense since HE isn't the old V. It just wasn't quite like old times, felt abit dark. I miss JTs one liners towards him BUT found it quite entertaining and random he was skipping of all things I'm abit confused about the neck injury? He didn't injure her there right? It was like a push to the ground...Please explain LOL. Also the end when that Sebastian guy fell to the ground. We didn't see the footage, but I assume that V finished him off? And Cat saw it? Ekk..hmm not sure what to say ALTHOUGH that guy was annoying appearing and disappearing. BUT he seemed stronger than V, so I wouldn't have thought falling to the ground would have knocked him out :/ The end scene...awww so tense, dramatic lol. I felt the pain from both sides. It was sad that Cat didn't believe him but she DID have a point that she doesn't know about what his up to. I kind of hoped for a scene where V would've comforted her after what she told him about her dad...BUT yeah, there wasn't really any of that. That was annoying when Cat mentioned it and V stomped off. Yes, he knew he lied to her but I dunno, it was so abrupt like :/ Yeah the neck injury confused cause I don't remember him shoving her there but I just ran with it.
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Oct 21, 2013 6:33:44 GMT -5
Here goes my review after watching the episode a couple of times: In general, I liked it a lot BUT I admit that two previous ones (especially Kidnapped) were better IMO. What I liked (I’m copying Yolie in this way of exposing my thoughts, I liked it! I hope u don’t mind, Yolie!! ): A nice difference from last season: they are being quite consistent in the storyline and not making plot holes. I liked how they managed the whole (fast) training of Catherine in order to fake with Vincent. It’s funny, I found they used too many minutes to show that and at the same time thought: wow! How fast she learns! Haha! I LOVED that Vincent went to JT to check on Catherine. Loved seeing how remorseful he is and that he really cares what he did and how she feels/is. No words when VinCat meet at boathouse and he says: what I did last night IS KILLING ME! Great! That’s the idea… Did I mention before that I LOVE the heartbeat stuff and that he’s checking it/feeling it all the time?? Awww… I can’t help it, it always makes me swoon!! I’m gladly surprised to see how Catherine is managing all the shove stuff! After the polemic last week, I’m nicely surprised that she is rational about that and, DESPITE SHE DOESN’T ACCEPT IT, she doesn’t make a big mountain of it! I also liked that she’s very clear and straight about that with Vincent. And I’m sure that he will never ever do that to her again! The beast-of-the-week skills were wow! He was fast, right? I don’t know why but I found him cool. I’m only sorry that the character was not more developed in the episode. Also his motives are a bit weak, IMO, but maybe it’s the way for introducing another character (Nigel). I have a theory about the presence of Nigel in the future as Vincent ally! That actor had charisma and was classy! I think he could be a really good enemy for Reynolds! The chat between JT and Vincent was awkwardly nice… Funny seeing JT training! And Vincent starts to be our Vincent again… showing doubts, hesitation, shy sometimes… even with JT! And probably because he feels VERY ASHAMED of what he did to Catherine The dancing part was nice and sexy, as we already knew and Vincent is gorgeous in that suit! Vincent feeling her heartbeat.. awww.. The conversation while dancing: very interesting and partially showing the real motives for Catherine to go undercover. I believe she was trying to help him but I also think she was resentful with the new Vincent and was trying to figure him out! Oh! And finally understand now Catherine Ashton comment about a harness for Catherine! She was hanging in the lift and later when she almost falls! The flashback scene… OMG! That WAS THE scene, IMO. So nice that he starts having memories chronologically! Hahaha! Of course he’s at the fire scape at the end of episode because he remembers them there! Awww… And how he saves her and hugs her… So romantic! I have the feeling this will be the last physical contact they will have for a while… snif… Again I understand why Catherine feels so bad about lies and Vincent lying but she’s not aware that she was the one who STARTED with the lies when going to the boat and faking “let’s talk about our relationship”. She was trying to figure out about his mission too. Not fair that she tells him she was only trying to take care of him! Of course after Vincent figures out, starts the cat and mouse game and kudos to Vincent because he wins in the lying department! Faking he actually had a memory of the pool was a low blow! Kudos to Catherine’s face when she thinks Vincent has remembered the pool scene. Her eyes lighted up!! Aww… so sorry when she notices Vincent is lying… The end scene was heartbreaking… more than Cold Turkey, I think! I understood both positions and wanted to hug both! (well, more to Jay, let’s be honest LOL! ). It’s clear now that he will have to gain her trust and that will be difficult if he can’t tell her anything about his mission. However, I have the feeling he doesn’t know too much more than her!! LOL Btw, when Catherine closes the window I felt sooo bad for Vincent... such a clear way of refusing him... for a moment I thought she would close the curtain too!!! that would be grossssss!!! Being part of that “to kill” list will be a big problem for Vincent and the crew in the future.. that’s clear! Didn’t like that much:Gabe having a crush on Catherine… Grrr.. somehow I don’t like it! I imagine that will bring some juicy / conflicted situations but, I don’t know… I don’t like it at all! Probably because suddenly I had a flash that MAYBE Catherine will start considering him as an option?? Especially now that she feels disappointed with Vincent and Gabe is showing her all the support and trust she needs… I’m sure he will also help her to find out who her real dad is… arrgh! Sisters’ conversation… I felt there was a bit of lack of reaction. Don’t know how to explain but I expected more from that “so expected” moment… Fight scenes: 2 observations. 1. I expected a more complex fight between Vincent and Sebastian. We need more action in season 2 for Vincent! They have to keep that high! It’s what attracts viewers, let’s face it (example: Arrow). 2. Catherine had more of a real fight with the beast than Vincent! Come on! That beast could EAT Catherine and it was like they were equal in some moment? Mmmm… not buying it! Feeling Gabe and JT too much in support roles… when will they start showing a bit more for them? Especially Tess, I would position her at the end of that crew! (btw, I don’t like her new haircut. Her forehead is not nice and it’s too seen now!) So, my overall opinion is that this episode was GREAT, but not as much as previous! The main reasons for that feeling are: more fight scenes needed, lack of any romantic VinCat moment. Just to be clear, there ARE achingly romantic moments when one or the other are showing their feelings, but they don’t share the momentum and everything is constantly surrounded by lies, misunderstandings, and mistrust! OHHHHH, SORRY!! The longest post/review I have ever written!!!
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Oct 21, 2013 6:38:31 GMT -5
So I just watched the episode...the acting was definately the strength! I even give Nicole (Heather.) credit for her acting this episode! Even though sometimes it's like gah Heather! You didn't want her to go either! I hope she'll come back as a guest, though the way they made it out to be maybe not :/ Arrrgh...I can't believe the writers went there with 'Gabe'! I mean that they even mention the possibly of him liking Cat *gag*! I really can't see it (them together.) lol. I had a bad feeling that they were going down that route, that it was going to be mentioned on the show :/ But seriously I preferred Evan as that role! I preferred Gabe with that chick he was with before. I really hope they don't go further with it...but atm it seems like Cat is losing trust in V, but gaining trust in Gabe which isn't a good feeling :/ It was good to see JT and V together earlier in the episode. Although it felt quite awkward. JT seemed almost scared/intimidated by him. I suppose that makes sense since HE isn't the old V. It just wasn't quite like old times, felt abit dark. I miss JTs one liners towards him BUT found it quite entertaining and random he was skipping of all things I'm abit confused about the neck injury? He didn't injure her there right? It was like a push to the ground...Please explain LOL. Also the end when that Sebastian guy fell to the ground. We didn't see the footage, but I assume that V finished him off? And Cat saw it? Ekk..hmm not sure what to say ALTHOUGH that guy was annoying appearing and disappearing. BUT he seemed stronger than V, so I wouldn't have thought falling to the ground would have knocked him out :/ The end scene...awww so tense, dramatic lol. I felt the pain from both sides. It was sad that Cat didn't believe him but she DID have a point that she doesn't know about what his up to. I kind of hoped for a scene where V would've comforted her after what she told him about her dad...BUT yeah, there wasn't really any of that. That was annoying when Cat mentioned it and V stomped off. Yes, he knew he lied to her but I dunno, it was so abrupt like :/ Yeah the neck injury confused cause I don't remember him shoving her there but I just ran with it. True, I had the same thought. I guess it helped the whole plot of scarf and being more obvious for people around her! but yeah, I find that a small inconsistency
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 21, 2013 6:40:56 GMT -5
dont meant to be harsh but this ep was a lil bit let down from the pevious ep last week they had a beast connected to a international drug dealer to a beast who is here for revenge in this ep the only good thing came out of this ep is that bio dad has a list which contains "kill list" and vincent is in on it. its just a matter of ep where we gonna see vincent on the run again (in ep 208) the situation vincent is now is the "perfect screw up" he cant go either side one will have a grudge for killing their own and the other side will be hunting down i think this is where tori char comes into play "fbi will not know about her considering fbi knows only about the dad" and this is how vin gonna communicate with the gang in the later part. in 22 episodes there will always be some bad eps but u cant set up an ep with high power storyline in a begining of the season and comeback with a less intense ep. the beast action was a big letdown i just wanna see in this season two beasts going at each other like crazy and kick both of their asses for a good 1.30 min that will make me really happy vincat now officially broken up and gabe has a crush on cat( god plz help me through this arc)storyline i agree with u that the action sequence wasnt as strong in this episode (the final action scene) as i also told u on twitter but I do think this was a very strong episode. i really do not think it was a let down at all, in any way - the opposite! but I know action is very important to u so I can understand where u are coming from now what you are saying that a revenge seeking beast storyline doesn't tie in well with previous beast storyline u are right, and I hadnt even thought about that. let's see where they take it. I guess they may be saying that not all beasts are hired killers but there are many of them out there
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Post by kiki09 on Oct 21, 2013 6:45:28 GMT -5
dont meant to be harsh but this ep was a lil bit let down from the pevious ep last week they had a beast connected to a international drug dealer to a beast who is here for revenge in this ep the only good thing came out of this ep is that bio dad has a list which contains "kill list" and vincent is in on it. its just a matter of ep where we gonna see vincent on the run again (in ep 208) the situation vincent is now is the "perfect screw up" he cant go either side one will have a grudge for killing their own and the other side will be hunting down i think this is where tori char comes into play "fbi will not know about her considering fbi knows only about the dad" and this is how vin gonna communicate with the gang in the later part. in 22 episodes there will always be some bad eps but u cant set up an ep with high power storyline in a begining of the season and comeback with a less intense ep. the beast action was a big letdown i just wanna see in this season two beasts going at each other like crazy and kick both of their asses for a good 1.30 min that will make me really happy vincat now officially broken up and gabe has a crush on cat( god plz help me through this arc)storyline i agree with u that the action sequence wasnt as strong in this episode (the final action scene) as i also told u on twitter but I do think this was a very strong episode. i really do not think it was a let down at all, in any way - the opposite! but I know action is very important to u so I can understand where u are coming from now what you are saying that a revenge seeking beast storyline doesn't tie in well with previous beast storyline u are right, and I hadnt even thought about that. let's see where they take it. I guess they may be saying that not all beasts are hired killers but there are many of them out there I agree. We've seen better action scenes but I don't think that was the focus of the ep. IMO the focus was for them to in a sense 'cut ties' or have some form of a break from each other so that they can focus on their separate tasks. Now V can do more action stuff (we'll probably see more in the next eps) but also, I think he will fight to win her back. I'm looking forward to both the action and the 'wooing' I guess
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Oct 21, 2013 6:46:33 GMT -5
dont meant to be harsh but this ep was a lil bit let down from the pevious ep last week they had a beast connected to a international drug dealer to a beast who is here for revenge in this ep the only good thing came out of this ep is that bio dad has a list which contains "kill list" and vincent is in on it. its just a matter of ep where we gonna see vincent on the run again (in ep 208) the situation vincent is now is the "perfect screw up" he cant go either side one will have a grudge for killing their own and the other side will be hunting down i think this is where tori char comes into play "fbi will not know about her considering fbi knows only about the dad" and this is how vin gonna communicate with the gang in the later part. in 22 episodes there will always be some bad eps but u cant set up an ep with high power storyline in a begining of the season and comeback with a less intense ep. the beast action was a big letdown i just wanna see in this season two beasts going at each other like crazy and kick both of their asses for a good 1.30 min that will make me really happy vincat now officially broken up and gabe has a crush on cat( god plz help me through this arc)storyline i agree with u that the action sequence wasnt as strong in this episode (the final action scene) as i also told u on twitter but I do think this was a very strong episode. i really do not think it was a let down at all, in any way - the opposite! but I know action is very important to u so I can understand where u are coming from now what you are saying that a revenge seeking beast storyline doesn't tie in well with previous beast storyline u are right, and I hadnt even thought about that. let's see where they take it. I guess they may be saying that not all beasts are hired killers but there are many of them out thereI also think that the story is not only about killing beasts who are hired killers but to kill them ALL, no matter what they do. And there's a big question mark. Will Vincent have to kill (or kill) ANY beast that Reynolds say? Even if that beast is not harming anyone (like Vincent in S1)? Well, there we have a BIG ISSUE that could be developed later in the season and could be a BIG obstacle between VinCat
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Post by bookworm on Oct 21, 2013 7:16:55 GMT -5
Just some thoughts about the episode, not everything because I'll need some time to digest everything LOL. After last week's fifty shades of Vincent this felt too dark and painful. The cat and mouse game. Hmm, I liked it. Even if they lied and pretended I enjoyed these bits. The dance. :beauty: Ok it was not romantic but full of tension and the talk they had... it was intense. When she left him on the dancefloor he looked gilty and angry with himself. I expected more fight sequences from the two beasts but it was ok. I also thought(as someone mentioned in a previous post) she was no match for Sebastian when she fought him. Window scene. Deja vu. It was hard to watch. V was finally ready to let her in and start trusting her but she said no. To be honest I feel this is like the Alex arc : must get though this because there are some important things that have taken place. Cat has sobered. She'll start dealing with her own problems. A little distance will do good. V has doubted his "boss". That's something to start with because until now he never questioned his orders. He had some flashbacks so we can expect more. I think he'll seek out JT and now his attitude will be different. He really wants to find out who he was. He may start "stalking" Cat again to protect her because no matter she refused him he'll feel their connection becoming stronger. Btw, I love the heartbeat thing! At least VinCat can start again, this time no more lies. He will fall for her again, even without his memories. There'll be that crazy attraction that they both can't deny so I look forward to the next ep!
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Oct 21, 2013 7:45:48 GMT -5
It's been a wonderful morning reading all the reviews on this episodes. You all did an absolutely fantastic job.......Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! Now, I will watch this episode paying particular attention to these highlights that you all described so well. Can't wait.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 21, 2013 7:55:04 GMT -5
Ok – so watched the episode first time and I thought it was very good, but not as great as episode 1 and 2. Then watched it second time round and I absolutely loved it (surprise, surprise)! In my defence, the first time I watched it, it was 4am in the U.K. and yes you guessed right, I got up at 4am to watch the episode and then went back to sleep again (I am sad, I know!). My review will be a bit briefer this time round, less of a recap (hope so anyway). Oh and SAVANA I read your review and loved it, the only thing I’d say is watch the episode again, you may change your mind about episodes 1 and 2 being better ( I know I did ). Oh and another thing – watched the slow motion of the attack and I do think he pushed her right under her neck so no inconsistency there, if I am right – YOLIE may be able to check if otherwise Negatives: - Not sure I can think of many negative things to say about the episode so I will start with these so we can move on to the good things! I liked the beast of the week (who by the way is meant to be a very good friend of Jay’s from the old days) but the action sequence at the end (him and Catherine and him and Vincent in the elevator) was a bit weak. It would be great if that beast (besides being fast) was a big more formidable (at least as formidable as he was when he pulled a punch through the agent’s body in a split second). Cat was pretty good at fighting him and defending herself though she is Human and he is a Beast and then Vincent did not fight with him at all. I understand his strength is mainly speed (and shiny orange eyes) but a better fight sequence would have been good for the boys who watch the show . Also, the motivations of this beast were personal (he was not hired) – they need to be careful in the future as I said in my previous review that the beasts storylines are not random and disconnected - in future episodes I would like to understand a bit more about these Murfield experiments and the role of the FBI in this – and is it the FBI involved or just Reynolds who also happens to work for the FBI. There seem to be many different type of beasts, say today’s beast doesn’t even transform so it would be great to have a bit more insight in the background story and why did they create so many types of beasts etc. etc. Not asking for it to happen right now, but would be nice if it was somewhat addressed in the next few episodes. Oh and I understand people have been experimented in different ways by Murfield but I would not want to see extreme beasts in the future (beasts spitting fire, beasts flying etc, lol they surely will keep grounded right, they won’t go over the top!) - Catherine found out her dad is not her dad, yet at no point was there a discussion between her and Vincent about this, even though she did let Vincent know that she found out about it. Now, I understand this will be a major focus of future episodes and I am sure Vincent will be heavily involved in trying to help her out, but since she told him about this in this episode, I would not have minded a one liner or maybe two between them about it. I won’t even say that is a negative and logistically it may not have made sense at all to do this today but it just crossed my mind so I thought I’d mention it - Again, not a criticism since it is very early days, but Tess’s role is not major at the moment, she will eventually need her own storyline rather than just acting as a support mechanism to Catherine (which I guess we all kind of know what it will be, J.T. cough cough) I cannot fault the episode though, it was IMO beautiful, incredibly sad and dark, but beautiful. What was so good about it? - Good, solid writing, not cheesy – the only cheesy /redone line lol was Cat in the elevator “Hi Sebastian, I thought I had Daddy issues” which I actually liked a lot even though a bit cheesy - Thought the director did a good job too - Brilliant character portrayal and in the right direction IMO – the character portrayal was probably one of my favourite aspects of this episode - Brilliant acting - Good, funny/smart one-liners (not as many as last time, but still plenty) - Beautiful music - Finally, a bit of a breakthrough in the relationship and in self-identity. No, I am not mad, they are at their lowest but they will (at least till hell breaks loose in episode 8) grow stronger – they needed to reach that low point and individually as well as together reach some realisations about themselves and the relationship - Old Vincent is back – you could see glimpses in the first 2 episodes, but you can so see he is starting to regain his humanity and real love for Catherine now. It is not just an unexplained attraction and pull, it is more than that - No major loopholes (which was quite common last season), at least none that I could think of but I may do so if I re-watch (or rather when I re-watch on the CW!!). - The beast was cool (not so cool in the end scene) but the beast case was cool overall, was not bored watching it this week - The pace was brilliant I thought – not too slow and not too fast, and a good combination of action/dialogue, emotional/funny moments. - Flashbacks and wow moments. The flashback wasn’t as emotional as I thought it would be when I was imagining it lol (ok, my imagination may have run a bit too wild) but I think this is good, in that we don’t want Vincent to fully remember at this stage, we want him to just get a few flashbacks and fully fall in love with Catherine (which I dare say he really is getting there!!) before it all comes back to him. But I would at some point want to see a very emotional flashback - Firsts which were handled brilliantly, such as the interaction between Vincent and Catherine when they were lying to each other (never seen them interact like that, and was extremely sad, felt sorry for Vincent too, but I thought done brilliantly– glad it only took them one episode to deal with the lying and hopefully will leave this behind) - The Heather departure was handled really well and good acting from Nicole – also tied in very well with the overall episode theme “Liar, Liar” - Lack of sexiness and romance – you must be thinking is she out of her mind? Yes, we crave for sexy and romantic moments but the lack of these in this episode made this episode stronger IMO. It was a very very difficult episode to watch emotionally but compelling at the same time and if sexiness and romance was included it would have ruined it I think - I loved the way they worked together to deal with the baddie even though on completely different teams, reminiscent of season 1 and IMO very romantic … - This episode I think was a good blend of season 1 and 2. So it did remind me of season 1 (the good things about it) but was still in the style and had the good things of season 2 Heartbreaking moments – tissues, Kleenex, wine, chocolate and other goodies needed -Catherine telling her sister to go to Miami in the coffee shop -Vincent telling J.T. he hurt Catherine and asking him to check on her… -Vincent not wanting to lie to Catherine hence deciding to stay away ( I don’t want to hurt and I can’t tell her the truth so just please check on her) yet then Catherine deceiving him (not blaming her by the way) -Vincent thinking that Catherine is giving him another shot -The awkwardness J.T. showed when speaking to Vincent, not sure exactly how to deal with him -Vincent’s pain and guilt throughout the episode -The whole episode was heart breaking with them lying to each other so much -Cat’s anger towards Vincent and how she speaks to Gabe about him (necessary, very understandable, makes absolute sense, but heart breaking nonetheless) - Cat and Vincent’s dialogue towards the end of the dance scene when she storms off -Cat’s genuine happiness first time Vincent pretends he remembers their pool time together only to be crashed a second later when she realises he is faking -THE LAST SCENE – OMG, seriously the most heart breaking scene ever, more than cold turkey and seeing red (yes, more) though very reminiscent of the cold turkey scene I have to say. She closed the window at the end and I was soo sad, and it is even sadder casue we know and they know that this time round they have many more obstacles to overcome than last time (in cold turkey) Funny moments/smart one-liners -J.T. skipping lol -Gabe’s one liner which we also saw in the trailer -Cat in the elevator with her daddy issues one liner - Cat: u think I need a scarf? Heather: yeah, people will think u have an abusive boyfriend -Lie detector scene -Vincent: Don’t ask don’t tell, Tess: like that ever works -Cat: he wishes, I might use my heels to kick it out of him -Cat’s and Vincent’s pre dance dialogue -Gabe and Tess dialogue when she confronts him for liking Catherine
Vincat analysis – this was so difficult to watch, but so compelling at the same time. It broke my heart how they both lied to each other, and I dare say Catherine was less hesitant to lie to him than he was to lie to her. Firstly, Catherine: You can really see in this episode a U-turn. You can see she obviously still loves him as much and defends him in front of everyone but she has realised her previous stance towards him needs to change if they are to work. And once she finds out about her dad and the flashback lie I think she then reaches a point where she is not even sure they should be together and realises she needs her space and she needs to find herself ( I think more realisation will come up when true daddy identity is revealed). This is Cat now prioritising herself in some ways (very justified considering what happened before, considering the daddy news and considering that she had neglected herself for a long time in her quest to find Vincent). He will now really need to prove himself to her and show willingness to let her into his current life, otherwise she won’t badge. The irony is he has started changing, and the catalyst was his action last week (as I had said in my previous review of 2.02). We could really see his human side this time from beginning to end, in fact in the end scene he was old Vincent, you could really see his vulnerability throughout the episode and the fact that he genuinely really cares about her and does not want to lose her. I really felt sorry for him this episode, he has been conditioned to think and act in a certain way yet he is really challenging this now, he has really fallen for Catherine and is desperate to win her back and completely accepts that he was wrong, but it is too late as she points out. Obviously as Cat also says to Gabe in the beginning “he is the real victim in all of this” and provided he does prove himself to her they will grow really close again, closer than before. I am so looking forward to seeing exactly how this relationship develops and how they will overcome other obstacles in their way! The Gabe story – bleh…..Ok, so people on Twitter were right. Gabe clearly will really like Catherine, he has not admitted to it yet, but why else would the writers mention it? Unless it is one of those things that are left unanswered but I feel this won’t be the case this season, they seem to be leaving fewer loopholes. Now, how do I feel about this? Well, I don’t mind it if he falls for her provided she doesn’t even consider falling for him. I can even (in the future) put up with a triangle of sorts, with Catherine questioning her loyalty to Vincent (I could put up with that I think) but not with Gabe of all people. I see no chemistry at all between these two (I could see a bit of chemistry between her and Evan who was a really charming guy), and if Catherine ever questions her loyalty to Vincent it better not be with Gabe!! Ok close your eyes and hear Vincent’s voice. Now close your eyes again and hear Gabe’s voice, eh nope! No way! Forget about it!! Sorry Gabe, but no competition at all here. So yeah, he can fall for her and Vincent can beast out and all, but she better not fall for him Verdict: Loved the episode, up till now I have not been disappointed at all by Season 2! The only thing I am slightly worried about, is this the right episode for Sleepy Hollow viewers to see (now that SH is on hiatus) and convert to BATB? Probably not (lack of action), but what the heck you cannot deny how good this episode was. I hope I am not the only one thinking that! p.s. sorry the review is long again, not as long as last time, but still long!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 21, 2013 8:14:50 GMT -5
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Post by B3astB3auty on Oct 21, 2013 8:28:28 GMT -5
vote NO to cat & gabe...
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Post by chilly20 on Oct 21, 2013 9:12:51 GMT -5
OMG loved this episode they just keep getting better & better finally Vincent has some flashes and felt so sorry for him on the fire escape but you can where Catherine is coming from but a part if me was tell her not to shut the window on him Sebastian I though was a interesting beast and that he has but doubt into Vincent mind about agent Reynolds looks like the fight for Catherine has begun it will be interesting to see how Vincent reacts to Gabe when he finds out he also like Catherine. My problem with Catherine is that she always misses her opportunities to get more out of Vincent. Everytime he starts to open up, she shuts him down. Same thing last week. On the roof at the end of episode 2, he went to hang out, instead of accepting that and just relax and hang out, she blew him off and again on the balcony in this episode. If you remember at the boathouse, she got more out of him when they were making sandwiches than when she was interrogating him. He told her about being made into a better soldier hence no personal memories. Who says more information wouldnt have slipped out of him as they relaxed and talked.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 21, 2013 9:38:31 GMT -5
If the bruise is on the right side of her neck..yup he did push her and shoved his hand there. .someone that strong could have left a mark especially a woman and someone who bruises easily. ..nope haven't watched anywhere just read a few posts and saw my name mentioned lol Carry on
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Oct 21, 2013 9:48:30 GMT -5
If the bruise is on the right side of her neck..yup he did push her and shoved his hand there. .someone that strong could have left a mark especially a woman and someone who bruises easily. ..nope haven't watched anywhere just read a few posts and saw my name mentioned lol Carry on You are strong to resist the temptation Yolie!
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