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Post by pippin on Sept 12, 2015 11:35:44 GMT -5
313 | 312 | Prelim Ratings
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| 810 / 0.2 (unrounded 0.211)
| 1.00 / 0.3 demo (unrounded 0.253) | Half | Half | 8:00 -8:30 880,000 / 0.2 demo | 8:00 - 8:30 1.02 / 0.2 demo | 8:30 - 9:00 733,000 / 0.2 demo
| 8:30 - 9:00 986,000 / 0.3 demo | Finals | Finals | 760,000 / 0.2 demo (unrounded 0.205)
| 917,000 / 0.2 demo (unrounded 0.242) |
Going by Nielsen numbers, 313 was the lowest rated of the entire series and the least watched episode of S3, however 8 episodes in S2 actually had fewer viewers. The season finale did manage to finally make Nielsen's Top 5 Twitter TV ratings chart And the BATBFinale hashtag trended as well Season 3 averaged 80,000 more viewers than S2 but the demo was sadly lower 0.23 v. 0.29. Versus the 6 episodes that aired last summer, S3 avg. 39,000 more viewers and the same 0.23 v 0.29 Compared to the 6 other original programs the CW aired this summer, Beauty finished 6th in the ratings, although only Penn & Teller with a 0.53 rating and Masters of Illusion with a 0.31 rating did significantly better, and in terms of viewing numbers, Beauty finished 4th with about 400,000 fewer viewers than 3rd ranked ANTM and 1.2 million fewer viewers than #1 ranked Penn & Teller.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Sept 12, 2015 14:40:51 GMT -5
I'd bet my next paycheck that the ratings for 313 would have been much better had the CW aired before Showcase. Yes football hurt the ratings, but there is no way US beasties would miss the finale. Two weeks was too long to let Showcase air ahead of the CW.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Sept 12, 2015 15:14:12 GMT -5
I'd bet my next paycheck that the ratings for 313 would have been much better had the CW aired before Showcase. Yes football hurt the ratings, but there is no way US beasties would miss the finale. Two weeks was too long to let Showcase air ahead of the CW. I just have to agree. Also, .........it peeves me that Kristin and Nina Tweeted during the episode. I can't watch the episode and read tweets, much less write question for them and read other Tweets. It just seems the whole season of viewing has been a jumbled mess for this US viewer. It has been a struggle to balance a few spoilers and waiting for the whole episodes. So much is just out there and is hard to filter. Plus, writing comments that don't feel late and redundant. I think I would have enjoyed this season a whole lot more had Showcase and CW had the viewing on the same night. When the cast has to put out reminders on TWITTER to SHOWCASE and other viewers to not spoil the Episode......... then that is a problem, period! SHOWCASE had a gif of Heather from the wedding and Austin had to mention about not spoiling for the US viewers!! Seriously, I found SHOWCASE to be rude because they didn't take it down! Sorry for my rant. I guess at least there was some perks that people who already saw the episode could ask KK and Nina questions and Tweet many times to Trend for BATB recognition. There's that...........
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Post by pippin on Sept 12, 2015 16:05:32 GMT -5
I'd bet my next paycheck that the ratings for 313 would have been much better had the CW aired before Showcase. Yes football hurt the ratings, but there is no way US beasties would miss the finale. Two weeks was too long to let Showcase air ahead of the CW. I just have to agree. Also, .........it peeves me that Kristin and Nina Tweeted during the episode. I can't watch the episode and read tweets, much less write question for them and read other Tweets. It just seems the whole season of viewing has been a jumbled mess for this US viewer. It has been a struggle to balance a few spoilers and waiting for the whole episodes. So much is just out there and is hard to filter. Plus, writing comments that don't feel late and redundant. I think I would have enjoyed this season a whole lot more had Showcase and CW had the viewing on the same night. When the cast has to put out reminders on TWITTER to SHOWCASE and other viewers to not spoil the Episode......... then that is a problem, period! SHOWCASE had a gif of Heather from the wedding and Austin had to mention about not spoiling for the US viewers!! Seriously, I found SHOWCASE to be rude because they didn't take it down! Sorry for my rant. I guess at least there was some perks that people who already saw the episode could ask KK and Nina questions and Tweet many times to Trend for BATB recognition. There's that........... I thought most shows try to get their cast to tweet during the episodes because it helps with trending. Haven't people been complaining about KK and JR not tweeting with the fans during episode airings? I find it impossible to watch and tweet, but people were asking all kinds of questions, so one didn't have to have seen the episode before to participate. Maybe that is the point. The shows want the fans to "watch" live and tweet along with the stars and then turn around and stream the show on the network's site or their DVR to see what they missed which increases the show's digital views. Speaking of tweeting -- why doesn't Nicole ever tweet? She has 3x more twitter followers than KK and 6x more than JR. If anyone of the cast could help with trending, surely it would be her both from a numbers and availability factor.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Sept 14, 2015 12:15:50 GMT -5
Quite frankly, I was worried the ratings would actually dip more than they did. Around where I live, it was a BIG DEAL about it being "the first" football game. I was in a restaurant on Thursday, trying to get out in time for BATB, and the waitress said, "don't worry, we will have you out in time for the 8:30 football game!" And that was what everyone around me was discussing. (YES, I stated that I was NOT going home for football but for BATB, and I will NOT go into the replies I got from tables around me! Sometimes, being a small Southern town is nice. At other times, this being one of them, it was NOT.)
And the fact that the finale came SO FAR after Showcase! I felt like the last person on Earth to actually see the episode Live. Sigh. The CW was never supposed to have aired the episode this late. I understood the initial Season 3 Episode 1 move date, but WHY did they have to move it so far out? I feel that really hurt us and cost us numbers on an important season-ender episode. I really feel the CW has messed up this summer in the way they chose to have the episodes aired, as well as the whole Canada/Showcase early airing that was SO MUCH earlier than the US.
By the by, since ratings have sort of kicked the show in the butt, when do we need to be thinking about a Season 5 campaign? Because I feel we REALLY will need said campaign!
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Post by biafin on Sept 18, 2015 11:36:42 GMT -5
Do you know if the winter shows have better rating in both Canada and USA? I was wondering if BAtB wouldn't have a better rating if it would be a winter show.. Here in Finland for example, nice series are shown during the winter or spring (when people are mostly in home).. In the summer the TV options here are not that nice because people are enjoying the summer outside and not in front of a TV..
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Post by pippin on Sept 21, 2015 23:28:44 GMT -5
Do you know if the winter shows have better rating in both Canada and USA? I was wondering if BAtB wouldn't have a better rating if it would be a winter show.. Here in Finland for example, nice series are shown during the winter or spring (when people are mostly in home).. In the summer the TV options here are not that nice because people are enjoying the summer outside and not in front of a TV.. Well going by S2's ratings, the answer would be no. Season 2's ratings weren't really any better than S3's and most of the S2 episodes aired during the regular TV season. The rounded demo 0.3 v 0.2 was a little higher, but not enough to keep it on the regular schedule. Unfortunately, the show has never been able to hang on to its Nielsen viewers. Season 1 lost 1.5 million viewers from the Pilot to Never Turn Back and fell from a 1.2 demo to 0.5. If you count the viewers who didn't bother to return after the end of the first season, then the show actually lost 1.8 million viewers and went from a 1.2 demo to a 0.3 from the Pilot to the first episode of S2.
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Post by bbatb on Sept 21, 2015 23:45:45 GMT -5
Wow, THAT is shocking! Why whould they leave after the end of S1? S2 I can completeley understand, but S1 was so magical. Yes, the Alex arc was hard to take, but they managed to get back on track quickly and not much REALLY bad happened - VinCat were not even a decared couple yet at the time. Anyway 1.8 million is a lot of viewers lost and they were not replaced by the new direction of the show either. So sad.
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Post by biafin on Sept 22, 2015 4:25:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation Pippin, it is indeed shocking ?
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Post by pippin on Oct 25, 2015 16:39:38 GMT -5
Wow, THAT is shocking! Why whould they leave after the end of S1? S2 I can completeley understand, but S1 was so magical. Yes, the Alex arc was hard to take, but they managed to get back on track quickly and not much REALLY bad happened - VinCat were not even a decared couple yet at the time. Anyway 1.8 million is a lot of viewers lost and they were not replaced by the new direction of the show either. So sad. My feeling is that if the show had been able to hang onto even half of its original demo and viewership, the Studio and/or Network might not have brought in a new showrunner. Souders said that she and Peterson were brought on just to "help get it off its feet" but those two stayed on Smallville from S2 until its end, 9 season later. S&P moved from BATB to consulting producers for 1 season of Under the Dome , another CBS Studio produced show. I'm thinking they may have had an initial two year contract or something with the Studio, so when they got moved off of BATB, CBS finished out their contract by having them serve as "consulting producers" on Under the Dome. If you go back and read the S1 episode threads, the show seemed to lose much of its appeal for a number of people because of the way Vincent was written during the Alex arc. Then when VinCat got together, there was much complaining about the repetitive normal normal normal dialogue, how come there wasn't another AMP type scene especially in Date Night, killing off of Evan, terrible season 1 finale, not epic at all and so S2 premieres to only a 0.3 Not that it matters anymore but CBS Studios Crazy Ex-Girlfriend premiered to an unrounded demo of 0.274 and its 2nd episode came in at 0.270 and 790k viewers. To be fair, the show was pre-empted in NY (the #1 market) but when your viewing numbers are low to begin with, there aren't too many people watching in any market to begin with. Considering it was the only show to debut this fall on the CW and had a metacritic score 44 points higher than Beauty's, those numbers are horrible. Friday's episode of Reign has a prelim. demo of 02. (unrounded 0.236) and 930,000 viewers with ANTM at 0.2 (unrounded 0.244) and only 730,000 viewers. This won't get Beauty a season 5, but at least our S3 numbers don't look so bad, especially considering that these show aren't being shown 4 days earlier in Canada.
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Post by hackerjustice on Oct 25, 2015 20:55:34 GMT -5
IMO, this show never knew where it was going. The "magical" first season was overrated, and it was only because of the chemistry of the leads that it even kept its minimal audience. This show failed in creating a real story outside of character interaction when it decided to put the leads together too soon and didn't create any realistic tension between them or between them and an external threat. It effectively just became a soap opera where people just wanted the leads to be together most of the time. It was repetitive rehash of telling a story instead of showing it, with dialogue to match repeating themes like "normal", "we are stronger together", etc. over and over again.
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Post by valbatbforever on Oct 26, 2015 3:47:47 GMT -5
I think that that during S1 who was magical Showrunner didn't anderstand that the viewer of BATB were not teenager but adult who belive in true love and with Alex's arc it was hard and i didn't really anderstand it but most of #Beastie think Cat was he's 2nd choice so rating? . Idem for S2 with Tori or Gabe for me S2 was a big mess. We didn't find magical of S1 maybe some time but with Tori's Arc all was not reel so rating? . With S3 I don't how i feel i think maybe i must watch it again. I'm.sad because i like to watch Kk and JR together i love the story of BATB ... Some fanfiction are better than S2 & S3 i'm waiting S4 hope it will be an amazing final ?
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Post by bbatb on Oct 26, 2015 7:58:52 GMT -5
Wow, THAT is shocking! Why whould they leave after the end of S1? S2 I can completeley understand, but S1 was so magical. Yes, the Alex arc was hard to take, but they managed to get back on track quickly and not much REALLY bad happened - VinCat were not even a decared couple yet at the time. Anyway 1.8 million is a lot of viewers lost and they were not replaced by the new direction of the show either. So sad. My feeling is that if the show had been able to hang onto even half of its original demo and viewership, the Studio and/or Network might not have brought in a new showrunner. Souders said that she and Peterson were brought on just to "help get it off its feet" but those two stayed on Smallville from S2 until its end, 9 season later. S&P moved from BATB to consulting producers for 1 season of Under the Dome , another CBS Studio produced show. I'm thinking they may have had an initial two year contract or something with the Studio, so when they got moved off of BATB, CBS finished out their contract by having them serve as "consulting producers" on Under the Dome. If you go back and read the S1 episode threads, the show seemed to lose much of its appeal for a number of people because of the way Vincent was written during the Alex arc. Then when VinCat got together, there was much complaining about the repetitive normal normal normal dialogue, how come there wasn't another AMP type scene especially in Date Night, killing off of Evan, terrible season 1 finale, not epic at all and so S2 premieres to only a 0.3 Not that it matters anymore but CBS Studios Crazy Ex-Girlfriend premiered to an unrounded demo of 0.274 and its 2nd episode came in at 0.270 and 790k viewers. To be fair, the show was pre-empted in NY (the #1 market) but when your viewing numbers are low to begin with, there aren't too many people watching in any market to begin with. Considering it was the only show to debut this fall on the CW and had a metacritic score 44 points higher than Beauty's, those numbers are horrible. Friday's episode of Reign has a prelim. demo of 02. (unrounded 0.236) and 930,000 viewers with ANTM at 0.2 (unrounded 0.244) and only 730,000 viewers. This won't get Beauty a season 5, but at least our S3 numbers don't look so bad, especially considering that these show aren't being shown 4 days earlier in Canada. I can understand why a lot of people got upset during the Alex arc. My own feelings at the time were quite dark, too, but I was hooked by then and way to deeply invested into the story and our lead couple to give up that easily. Apparently, many other people just did not feel that deeply about it YET. I guess the producers threw that Alex road block up in order to delay VinCat getting together even sooner, but it could have been written a lot better than it was. At times it felt as if the writers had written themselves into a corner and they did not really know how to get out of it again, so some of the dialogue was really questionable. Like Vincent telling Catherine that even though he planned to go away with Alex, it was 'not happlily'! What kind of crappy line is that? He would have been unhappy with Alex in Mexico, but he was going anyway and thereby making BOTH women and himself unhappy? Who would do something like this? Anyway, done and dusted and over. I still consider S1 MAGICAL and the plot holes in there are adorable, compared to the ones in the following seasons. Towards the end of S1 the repetitive words got quite grating on the nerves, I agree, but still not as bad as all the rehashing of phantom issues we got in the beginning of S3. And at least they did not sit around at the beginning of the episodes and explained to each other - or sometimes Heather, Tess or JT - what has happened in the previous episode. Also, we got to SEE their special, epic love and we did not have to listen to all and sundry TELL us about how wonderful, special and epic they are. Oh, and I have given up hoping for another AMP-ish love scene. It would have been nice to see some more of that - sure - but would that have helped the ratings? Doubtful, since it seems once viewers left, they did NOT come back for a second look.
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Post by bbatb on Oct 26, 2015 8:40:27 GMT -5
IMO, this show never knew where it was going. The "magical" first season was overrated, and it was only because of the chemistry of the leads that it even kept its minimal audience. This show failed in creating a real story outside of character interaction when it decided to put the leads together too soon and didn't create any realistic tension between them or between them and an external threat. It effectively just became a soap opera where people just wanted the leads to be together most of the time. It was repetitive rehash of telling a story instead of showing it, with dialogue to match repeating themes like "normal", "we are stronger together", etc. over and over again. I have to disagree with you about S1 being overrated. It was magical BECAUSE of the incredible chemistry of our lead couple and the threat to their love was really well done. Muirfield was a great first season threat and should have been kept a lot longer into S2 and not just dealt with in the first episode of S2, making us believe that this big bad was only a puny guy with a lab in an apartment building. What happened to the huge lab complex they showed us in 'Heart Of Darkness'? That was impressive! And I did not see anything in there that reminded me of a soap opera and IMO they showed us plenty of action, angst, threats, romance, growing, learning (from each other and others). You are right 'normal' or 'not normal' was totally overused and got very boring. Season 1 was not perfect, but it was charming and captivating, the lead couple had a moral compass and they loved each other and sacrificed for each other. Their characters made sense (most of the time) and they were 'in character' (most of the time). Of course, all that changed with S2, but I had better not get into that. The cover of S2 DVD says it all: EVERYTHING GOOD IS GONE.
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Post by dwayne1111 on Oct 26, 2015 10:05:47 GMT -5
IMO, this show never knew where it was going. The "magical" first season was overrated, and it was only because of the chemistry of the leads that it even kept its minimal audience. This show failed in creating a real story outside of character interaction when it decided to put the leads together too soon and didn't create any realistic tension between them or between them and an external threat. It effectively just became a soap opera where people just wanted the leads to be together most of the time. It was repetitive rehash of telling a story instead of showing it, with dialogue to match repeating themes like "normal", "we are stronger together", etc. over and over again. I have to disagree with you about S1 being overrated. It was magical BECAUSE of the incredible chemistry of our lead couple and the threat to their love was really well done. Muirfield was a great first season threat and should have been kept a lot longer into S2 and not just dealt with in the first episode of S2, making us believe that this big bad was only a puny guy with a lab in an apartment building. What happened to the huge lab complex they showed us in 'Heart Of Darkness'? That was impressive! And I did not see anything in there that reminded me of a soap opera and IMO they showed us plenty of action, angst, threats, romance, growing, learning (from each other and others). You are right 'normal' or 'not normal' was totally overused and got very boring. Season 1 was not perfect, but it was charming and captivating, the lead couple had a moral compass and they loved each other and sacrificed for each other. Their characters made sense (most of the time) and they were 'in character' (most of the time). Of course, all that changed with S2, but I had better not get into that. The cover of S2 DVD says it all: EVERYTHING GOOD IS GONE. I agree with you about the cover and season 2. The writers almost destroyed the epic love they've built in season 1. But in season 3 do you think everthing good is gone too?I'm just curious.
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