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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 12, 2015 16:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by bbat on Feb 12, 2015 16:35:51 GMT -5
Don’t worry, it is true! In this case Spoiler TV lived up to its name and really spoiled it. (Starting to dislike this site more and more, btw) If they hadn’t made such a fuss about it with their headline "BATB renewed for 4th season confirmed" (because a tweet by a show’s costume designer is no official confirmation) TVbyTheNumbers and the CW wouldn’t even have taken notice. But as it was, with "Season 4 confirmed" get stated as a fact, of course the CW had to deny it. Last year the Indian TV executive leaked it weeks before the official announcement, but none of the TV sites picked it up, and no one cared. So cheers Tenshi, and enjoy your evening! (We’ve emptied or bottle of Champagne already) Still happy about today’s news! And even better, we will have yet another occasion to celebrate when it’s finally made official! Good Night!
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Post by jefferen on Feb 12, 2015 16:43:26 GMT -5
Well it's disappointing, but I still think there is truth to it. The original article says that it'd bring BATBs total count to 70, even if reign gets a full season they wouldn't b at 70 episodes. Like really think that this is a case again that someone leaked the info too soon before they were supposed to. I think the tweet from Catherine A says it all, she didn't deny it or even try to be evasive about it. I hope she doesn't get in trouble for it.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 12, 2015 16:50:44 GMT -5
Well it's disappointing, but I still think there is truth to it. The original article says that it'd bring BATBs total count to 70, even if reign gets a full season they wouldn't b at 70 episodes. Like really think that this is a case again that someone leaked the info too soon before they were supposed to. I think the tweet from Catherine A says it all, she didn't deny it or even try to be evasive about it. I hope she doesn't get in trouble for it. That's the point...the article talked about 70 episodes if you do the math BATB would have 70 with a 13 episode 4th season. Also the fact that it was disclosed that there's a 3 million dollar budget on each episode isn't something written random. I believe the article. ..and also believe that Jill Carter Retweet was a mistake on her part. Catherine Ashton wouldn't say something like that if there wasn't proof. Then also the gambella guy and his taunts and lastly hitower music. Also why would everyone all of a sudden remove there tweets?? I say control damage cause the cat was let out of the bag too soon...like last season 3 renewal...we knew way before CW even announced. Hence what I think is happening now. This is the last I'm saying about this matter. End of rant
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 12, 2015 17:21:20 GMT -5
Well it's disappointing, but I still think there is truth to it. The original article says that it'd bring BATBs total count to 70, even if reign gets a full season they wouldn't b at 70 episodes. Like really think that this is a case again that someone leaked the info too soon before they were supposed to. I think the tweet from Catherine A says it all, she didn't deny it or even try to be evasive about it. I hope she doesn't get in trouble for it. That's the point...the article talked about 70 episodes if you do the math BATB would have 70 with a 13 episode 4th season. Also the fact that it was disclosed that there's a 3 million dollar budget on each episode isn't something written random. I believe the article. ..and also believe that Jill Carter Retweet was a mistake on her part. Catherine Ashton wouldn't say something like that if there wasn't proof. Then also the gambella guy and his taunts and lastly hitower music. Also why would everyone all of a sudden remove there tweets?? I say control damage cause the cat was let out of the bag too soon...like last season 3 renewal...we knew way before CW even announced. Hence what I think is happening now. This is the last I'm saying about this matter. End of rant yup u know i am always very sceptical but to me all the evidence point to that direction... i am convinced now we are renewed but have no clue when they will announce...maybe much later...of course i could be very wrong adn that would be gutting but i really cant see it not being renewed with all these clues...
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 12, 2015 17:38:59 GMT -5
So Austin who has no idea about whether we have season 4 or not favoured a certain tweet ... any guesses on whcih one? hitower's latest one! about the bear being wrong just saying
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 12, 2015 17:40:20 GMT -5
The cancellation bears statement came from a source. So that to isn't official. Cancel bear quoted was 'his' source told him the vice president of CW told him... so it's all here say.
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Post by jefferen on Feb 12, 2015 17:43:47 GMT -5
Well it's disappointing, but I still think there is truth to it. The original article says that it'd bring BATBs total count to 70, even if reign gets a full season they wouldn't b at 70 episodes. Like really think that this is a case again that someone leaked the info too soon before they were supposed to. I think the tweet from Catherine A says it all, she didn't deny it or even try to be evasive about it. I hope she doesn't get in trouble for it. That's the point...the article talked about 70 episodes if you do the math BATB would have 70 with a 13 episode 4th season. Also the fact that it was disclosed that there's a 3 million dollar budget on each episode isn't something written random. I believe the article. ..and also believe that Jill Carter Retweet was a mistake on her part. Catherine Ashton wouldn't say something like that if there wasn't proof. Then also the gambella guy and his taunts and lastly hitower music. Also why would everyone all of a sudden remove there tweets?? I say control damage cause the cat was let out of the bag too soon...like last season 3 renewal...we knew way before CW even announced. Hence what I think is happening now. This is the last I'm saying about this matter. End of rant [/quote That's what I mean. And usually if Catherine doesn't kno or isn't allowed to say or it's not official, she plays it coy or is evasive. But she wasn't. Nick from Rickey posted an article about the rumors and he compared BATB & Reign and reigns renewal despite mediocre ratings as well, Reign costs a lot more to produce than BATB does so 3 million is a little on the low side for the article to have been talking bout Reign. I am going with my gut instinct which I've had since the TCAs wen Jay Bobbins more or less tweeted that the CW wanted to center the summer programming around BATB. I think we will be renewed for S4 especially since our numbers basically stay the same no matter where BATB is moved
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Post by ebeline on Feb 12, 2015 17:58:29 GMT -5
Well it's disappointing, but I still think there is truth to it. The original article says that it'd bring BATBs total count to 70, even if reign gets a full season they wouldn't b at 70 episodes. Like really think that this is a case again that someone leaked the info too soon before they were supposed to. I think the tweet from Catherine A says it all, she didn't deny it or even try to be evasive about it. I hope she doesn't get in trouble for it. That's the point...the article talked about 70 episodes if you do the math BATB would have 70 with a 13 episode 4th season. Also the fact that it was disclosed that there's a 3 million dollar budget on each episode isn't something written random. I believe the article. ..and also believe that Jill Carter Retweet was a mistake on her part. Catherine Ashton wouldn't say something like that if there wasn't proof. Then also the gambella guy and his taunts and lastly hitower music. Also why would everyone all of a sudden remove there tweets?? I say control damage cause the cat was let out of the bag too soon...like last season 3 renewal...we knew way before CW even announced. Hence what I think is happening now. This is the last I'm saying about this matter. End of rant You are right! If the article would be wrong and CA retweet this, she would say i am sorry for the wrong information. But she didn't say anything like that, same with Jill Carter. So the information for me is really true and CW only do damage control. It's clear they have a plan when the will go out with their informations- it's Business - for me it's ok i will wait. Not really happy about waiting but it will be worth like Austin said. Till then i will rewatch all eps -again.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Feb 12, 2015 18:36:38 GMT -5
jefferen - I agree with everything you said but would like to add to that last part. Our numbers were better on Thursday nights and went down on Mondays. We haven't been moved to any other night or time slot since, so we don't know if the numbers would stay the same or improve. But I do feel that our core base wouldn't let them decline any further. I really don't like the Monday slot and hope we get moved to a better slot, anywhere but Monday. I'm willing to bet that if BATB is moved from the 9:00 pm Monday slot to Tue, Wed, or Thu, our ratings would improve. Moreover, the CW must not let Showcase air BATB first in Canada before the US. Look at HoD, it's ratings were about the same as BATB last year on Mondays, it's doing better now that it's on Friday. That's the point...the article talked about 70 episodes if you do the math BATB would have 70 with a 13 episode 4th season. Also the fact that it was disclosed that there's a 3 million dollar budget on each episode isn't something written random. I believe the article. ..and also believe that Jill Carter Retweet was a mistake on her part. Catherine Ashton wouldn't say something like that if there wasn't proof. Then also the gambella guy and his taunts and lastly hitower music. Also why would everyone all of a sudden remove there tweets?? I say control damage cause the cat was let out of the bag too soon...like last season 3 renewal...we knew way before CW even announced. Hence what I think is happening now. This is the last I'm saying about this matter. End of rant [/quote That's what I mean. And usually if Catherine doesn't kno or isn't allowed to say or it's not official, she plays it coy or is evasive. But she wasn't. Nick from Rickey posted an article about the rumors and he compared BATB & Reign and reigns renewal despite mediocre ratings as well, Reign costs a lot more to produce than BATB does so 3 million is a little on the low side for the article to have been talking bout Reign. I am going with my gut instinct which I've had since the TCAs wen Jay Bobbins more or less tweeted that the CW wanted to center the summer programming around BATB. I think we will be renewed for S4 especially since our numbers basically stay the same no matter where BATB is moved
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 12, 2015 19:41:37 GMT -5
Since obviously we are going to be a Summer series CW can work with different dates to put us in.... in the Summer CW programs are Master Of Illusions, America Top Model and Who's Line Is It Anyway. That leaves 7 slots open during Monday thru Friday to put batb. I see BATB , Reign, 100 as there Summer line up. Still with those 6 slots there's still room for CW to add HOD If in fact the show isn't cancelled. Either way I believe our ratings will stay the same or improve. America Top Model had low 3 and 4 ratings all season.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 13, 2015 0:28:19 GMT -5
Adding more heat to the fire... From Playback magazine exert As we head into a new year and more uncharted territory in the media landscape, Playback is asking leaders from sectors across the industry to weigh in on what they think 2015 may hold for their companies and the world of Canadian film and television. In the fourth story in our series, we speak with Cinespace Film Studios’ VP operations, Jim Mirkopoulos. What business, economic or regulatory trends will drive these changes?Already the plummeting dollar has triggered this drastic spike in business volumes, however our clients continue to point to Ontario’s reliable and high-value tax credit as being the main driver of repeat business in Ontario. Also the disproportionately large increase in episodic production has been a primary driver of the current market environment, and as successful projects are renewed and continue to occupy their studio footprints for multiple seasons, we must seek alternate space solutions for new projects. Cinespace’s episodic clients have the highest levels of renewal and facility retention in the industry (Warehouse 13, five seasons; Flashpoint, five seasons; Nikita, four seasons; Beauty and the Beast, four seasons; Reign, three seasons, Bitten, two seasons). Obviously someone knows something Either that or two different articles confused season 4 instead of season 3? I highly doubt it LOL in case you are wondering what cinescape is, that's the studio in which BATB is filmed in Toronto! Our very own @locaxbatb has visited there to drop off our appreciation gifts
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Post by BeastieBoy on Feb 13, 2015 0:54:48 GMT -5
Adding more heat to the fire... From Playback magazine exert As we head into a new year and more uncharted territory in the media landscape, Playback is asking leaders from sectors across the industry to weigh in on what they think 2015 may hold for their companies and the world of Canadian film and television. In the fourth story in our series, we speak with Cinespace Film Studios’ VP operations, Jim Mirkopoulos. What business, economic or regulatory trends will drive these changes?Already the plummeting dollar has triggered this drastic spike in business volumes, however our clients continue to point to Ontario’s reliable and high-value tax credit as being the main driver of repeat business in Ontario. Also the disproportionately large increase in episodic production has been a primary driver of the current market environment, and as successful projects are renewed and continue to occupy their studio footprints for multiple seasons, we must seek alternate space solutions for new projects. Cinespace’s episodic clients have the highest levels of renewal and facility retention in the industry (Warehouse 13, five seasons; Flashpoint, five seasons; Nikita, four seasons; Beauty and the Beast, four seasons; Reign, three seasons, Bitten, two seasons). Obviously someone knows something Either that or two different articles confused season 4 instead of season 3? I highly doubt it LOL I highly doubt it too! I'm convinced S4 will be a given. It's just another torturous waiting game now for the CW to come clean and announce it officially. But waiting patiently is something we beasties have learned to live with. Season 3 will be here and then over with before we know it! I'm just going to enjoy the ride and take things as they come.
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Post by pippin on Feb 13, 2015 1:15:08 GMT -5
There's no question the publication is legit, think the question was whether the information was accurate, but if you read the article, it certainly makes it seem like the show has been renewed for a fourth season: Here's the relevant passage "Beauty in the Beast has now, as of Feb. 10, also been giving the official go-ahead for a fourth season, bringing its total episode count to 70." So that would mean another 13 episode order, probably for that 2016 summer season. Article also says that the budget for each episode is around $3 million -- no wonder they are able to do so much location shooting. <edited> yes it says as of february 10... so even dated is $3m meant to be a lot for a show? $3 million was at one time the average for hour long broadcast dramas while $2 million was supposedly the avg. for hour longs on cable. Looking at another Playback article though, it looks like Reign might be around $3mill per episode for the first season but Beauty might be closer to $2 mil. Not sure I'm reading the numbers correctly though. BTW, the Playback article still says the same thing even if they edited the preview portion: "Beauty in the Beast has now, as of Feb. 10, also been giving the official go-ahead for a fourth season, bringing its total episode count to 70
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 13, 2015 1:19:48 GMT -5
<edited> yes it says as of february 10... so even dated is $3m meant to be a lot for a show? $3 million was at one time the average for hour long broadcast dramas while $2 million was supposedly the avg. for hour longs on cable. Looking at another Playback article though, it looks like Reign might be around $3mill per episode for the first season but Beauty might be closer to $2 mil. Not sure I'm reading the numbers correctly though. BTW, the Playback article still says the same thing even if they edited the preview portion: "Beauty in the Beast has now, as of Feb. 10, also been giving the official go-ahead for a fourth season, bringing its total episode count to 70 I figured that much!! Thanks pippin .. Obviously that article wasn't the only one saying that 4 seasons for BATB, Back in Jan 14th another article mentioned 4 seasons for BATB I always thought that BATB cost less to produce, I heard REIGN was always more expensive cause of the particulars of the series. Costumes, locations total production.
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