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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 12, 2015 15:50:20 GMT -5
So anapi -season3baby :) what do you think it will take for BATB to come back early. Before next summer anyway??? i dont know, i honestly do not think it will the only way it will is if their new or existing shows seriously flop there are three new but two of them start midseason anyway i just cant see it happening
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Post by Reyna on Jun 12, 2015 17:10:52 GMT -5
Final Ratings
CW Beauty & The Beast - Season Premiere 0.3 demo / 0.88 viewers
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 12, 2015 17:20:44 GMT -5
why? what are your thoughts i do think we will stay at 0.3 u know...i dont think they will go down....well i will probably be proven wrong but what do you think Given BATB in a sense has come full circle now so to speak, it would be interesting if any of our viewers who gave up on BATB after the second season return to see what direction Brad Kern has chosen to go in this season and what he has planned for season four. Especially given the amount of positive reviews currently flowing in.
Now concerning our series premiere ratings, I did not any expectations as the NBA finals were going to affect our ratings in one way or another, plus given our show is stilling broadcasting first in Canada. The U.S. ratings will probably always result in a 0.2/0.3 demo. Unfortunately, for us to attain a 0.4 demo or higher would truly be a wishful dream to comes true on our part, yet, on a positive note, should the networks ever decide to change gears, we will always have that possibility.
I agree for the most part sista as usual but there's a factor that sometimes curiosity can't even change...BITTERNESS. .many people that left cause of season 2 are to bitter and aren't willing to try the show again. Also there are some which don't like the way the characters are being written. Too weak ,same storyline ect. I doubt those people will return even if Kern gives up his status LOL but I honestly believe the loyal fans we have will be loyal to the very end and the CW knows that off hand. Either way I'm not gonna be pessimistic. ..never been besides I'm still in my VinCat cloud and nothing gonna take me down no no LOL You've been missed BTW
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Post by lovebatb on Jun 12, 2015 18:46:39 GMT -5
In fact, I am relieved...I really thought it could have been worse! Let's hope some old US viewers that gave up because season 2 storyline come back! I will still do the best I can to keep brazilian beasties "alive"
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Post by Reyna on Jun 12, 2015 19:13:38 GMT -5
Given BATB in a sense has come full circle now so to speak, it would be interesting if any of our viewers who gave up on BATB after the second season return to see what direction Brad Kern has chosen to go in this season and what he has planned for season four. Especially given the amount of positive reviews currently flowing in.
Now concerning our series premiere ratings, I did not any expectations as the NBA finals were going to affect our ratings in one way or another, plus given our show is stilling broadcasting first in Canada. The U.S. ratings will probably always result in a 0.2/0.3 demo. Unfortunately, for us to attain a 0.4 demo or higher would truly be a wishful dream to comes true on our part, yet, on a positive note, should the networks ever decide to change gears, we will always have that possibility.
I agree for the most part sista as usual but there's a factor that sometimes curiosity can't even change...BITTERNESS. .many people that left cause of season 2 are to bitter and aren't willing to try the show again. Also there are some which don't like the way the characters are being written. Too weak ,same storyline ect. I doubt those people will return even if Kern gives up his status LOL but I honestly believe the loyal fans we have will be loyal to the very end and the CW knows that off hand. Either way I'm not gonna be pessimistic. ..never been besides I'm still in my VinCat cloud and nothing gonna take me down no no LOL You've been missed BTW with you sis.
Bitterness will always be a factor, yet some come to the realization that his or her bitterness does not mean zilch to others. Many often find it difficult to resist temptation especially if connected through various social media sites. Despite his or her bitterness, not knowing what is going on with the show recently whether he or she wants to or not, would prove to be quite challenging nowadays. Using a person who shall remain nameless as an example, this person is relentlessly bitter with the direction each season embarks on, yet continues to watch the series nonstop. Overall, those who are bitter swallow their pride eventually.
LOL, pessimistic will never be a part of my vocabulary. This I promise you. When it comes to VinCat, I will always be on cloud nine.
You know me, always crazy busy. While I may not be able to post as much as I use too, you can always count on me to be around.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Jun 13, 2015 0:20:25 GMT -5
I agree for the most part sista as usual but there's a factor that sometimes curiosity can't even change...BITTERNESS. .many people that left cause of season 2 are to bitter and aren't willing to try the show again. Also there are some which don't like the way the characters are being written. Too weak ,same storyline ect. I doubt those people will return even if Kern gives up his status LOL but I honestly believe the loyal fans we have will be loyal to the very end and the CW knows that off hand. Either way I'm not gonna be pessimistic. ..never been besides I'm still in my VinCat cloud and nothing gonna take me down no no LOL You've been missed BTW with you sis.
Bitterness will always be a factor, yet some come to the realization that his or her bitterness does not mean zilch to others. Many often find it difficult to resist temptation especially if connected through various social media sites. Despite his or her bitterness, not knowing what is going on with the show recently whether he or she wants to or not, would prove to be quite challenging nowadays. Using a person who shall remain nameless as an example, this person is relentlessly bitter with the direction each season embarks on, yet continues to watch the series nonstop. Overall, those who are bitter swallow their pride eventually.
LOL, pessimistic will never be a part of my vocabulary. This I promise you. When it comes to VinCat, I will always be on cloud nine.
You know me, always crazy busy. While I may not be able to post as much as I use too, you can always count on me to be around. I've not analyzed the S2 ratings, but I do recall that when S2 returned for the summer with 2x17 it was a high point for S2 with over a million viewers and a 0.4 I believe. So I don't quite understand the "bitterness" theory. IIRC 2x01 opened with something like 900,000 viewers similar to the S3 premiere. Nobody could have been bitter then, because that didn't start to happen until the triangles mid season. IMHO, it was probably the change to Mondays or other factors that lost viewers from S1, since S2 premiered with lower numbers right from the get go. I was hoping we could possibly match 2x17, but I'm satisfied with the result. S3 is remaining steady with the core loyal US fan base in tact. The CW/CBS predicted correctly about the core fan base. The main thing is we didn't go down! I was really dreading that with Canada airing 4 days early. I'm ever the optimist, so I'm hoping the good word of mouth and Netflix will help S3 increase slightly. But realistically it seems the ratings we got for 2x17 might be as good as it gets, I hope we can match that from time to time during S3's run. As long as the CW keeps renewing and pumping out more "quality" seasons, I'll be a happy camper.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 13, 2015 0:25:13 GMT -5
with you sis.
Bitterness will always be a factor, yet some come to the realization that his or her bitterness does not mean zilch to others. Many often find it difficult to resist temptation especially if connected through various social media sites. Despite his or her bitterness, not knowing what is going on with the show recently whether he or she wants to or not, would prove to be quite challenging nowadays. Using a person who shall remain nameless as an example, this person is relentlessly bitter with the direction each season embarks on, yet continues to watch the series nonstop. Overall, those who are bitter swallow their pride eventually.
LOL, pessimistic will never be a part of my vocabulary. This I promise you. When it comes to VinCat, I will always be on cloud nine.
You know me, always crazy busy. While I may not be able to post as much as I use too, you can always count on me to be around. I've not analyzed the S2 ratings, but I do recall that when S2 returned for the summer with 2x17 it was a high point for S2 with over a million viewers and a .4 I believe. So I don't quite understand the "bitterness" theory. IIRC 2x01 opened with something like 900,000 million viewers similar to the S3 premiere. Nobody could have been bitter then, because that didn't start to happen until the triangles mid season. IMHO, it was probably the change to Mondays or other factors that lost viewers from S1, since S2 premiered with lower numbers right from the get go. I was hoping we could possibly match 2x17, but I'm satisfied with the result. S3 is remaining steady with the core loyal US fan base in tact. The CW/CBS predicted correctly about the core fan base. The main thing is we didn't go down! I was really dreading that with Canada airing 4 days early. I'm ever the optimist, so I'm hoping the good word of mouth and Netflix will help S3 increase slightly. But realistically it seems the ratings we got for 2x17 might be as good as it gets, I hope we can match that from time to time during S3's run. As long as the CW keeps renewing and pumping out more "quality" seasons, I'll be a happy camper. i agree - the storyline not a factor cause we had this viewership from the get go. and it stayed steady. beasties may have left but numbers not affected as we are looking at nielsen viewers here and i am pretty sure we have no nielsen viewer who is a full on passionate beastie otherwise we would have known. and yes i also think 0.3 is ok for us lol and if we dont fall then i ll be fine. 0.2 wont be cool though so lets hope the s2 trend continues where we were mostly getting 0.3s
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Post by Reyna on Jun 13, 2015 0:49:51 GMT -5
with you sis.
Bitterness will always be a factor, yet some come to the realization that his or her bitterness does not mean zilch to others. Many often find it difficult to resist temptation especially if connected through various social media sites. Despite his or her bitterness, not knowing what is going on with the show recently whether he or she wants to or not, would prove to be quite challenging nowadays. Using a person who shall remain nameless as an example, this person is relentlessly bitter with the direction each season embarks on, yet continues to watch the series nonstop. Overall, those who are bitter swallow their pride eventually.
LOL, pessimistic will never be a part of my vocabulary. This I promise you. When it comes to VinCat, I will always be on cloud nine.
You know me, always crazy busy. While I may not be able to post as much as I use too, you can always count on me to be around. I've not analyzed the S2 ratings, but I do recall that when S2 returned for the summer with 2x17 it was a high point for S2 with over a million viewers and a 0.4 I believe. So I don't quite understand the "bitterness" theory. IIRC 2x01 opened with something like 900,000 viewers similar to the S3 premiere. Nobody could have been bitter then, because that didn't start to happen until the triangles mid season. IMHO, it was probably the change to Mondays or other factors that lost viewers from S1, since S2 premiered with lower numbers right from the get go. I was hoping we could possibly match 2x17, but I'm satisfied with the result. S3 is remaining steady with the core loyal US fan base in tact. The CW/CBS predicted correctly about the core fan base. The main thing is we didn't go down! I was really dreading that with Canada airing 4 days early. I'm ever the optimist, so I'm hoping the good word of mouth and Netflix will help S3 increase slightly. But realistically it seems the ratings we got for 2x17 might be as good as it gets, I hope we can match that from time to time during S3's run. As long as the CW keeps renewing and pumping out more "quality" seasons, I'll be a happy camper. The bitterness is VinCat❤Destined is referring to is the love triangles. I am referring to character focus and the love triangles as well.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 13, 2015 6:11:35 GMT -5
I agree for the most part sista as usual but there's a factor that sometimes curiosity can't even change...BITTERNESS. .many people that left cause of season 2 are to bitter and aren't willing to try the show again. Also there are some which don't like the way the characters are being written. Too weak ,same storyline ect. I doubt those people will return even if Kern gives up his status LOL but I honestly believe the loyal fans we have will be loyal to the very end and the CW knows that off hand. Either way I'm not gonna be pessimistic. ..never been besides I'm still in my VinCat cloud and nothing gonna take me down no no LOL You've been missed BTW with you sis.
Bitterness will always be a factor, yet some come to the realization that his or her bitterness does not mean zilch to others. Many often find it difficult to resist temptation especially if connected through various social media sites. Despite his or her bitterness, not knowing what is going on with the show recently whether he or she wants to or not, would prove to be quite challenging nowadays. Using a person who shall remain nameless as an example, this person is relentlessly bitter with the direction each season embarks on, yet continues to watch the series nonstop. Overall, those who are bitter swallow their pride eventually.
LOL, pessimistic will never be a part of my vocabulary. This I promise you. When it comes to VinCat, I will always be on cloud nine.
You know me, always crazy busy. While I may not be able to post as much as I use too, you can always count on me to be around. I think that also once the premise for season 2 came out after the finale that Vincent would have memory loss was a downer for many fans...also the fact that it was also mentioned before the season 2 even aired that there would be 'love interests' for both characters ..I think there they put the final nail in many beasties coffins not to mention those that are unhappy about the character development or lack of in some cases. So many polls out there maybe there should be one to find out what turned season 1 beasties off. Just a thought
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Post by airam702 on Jun 13, 2015 9:30:00 GMT -5
Obviously I did my homework I'm sure it's over a million not all US household have that dang box anyway, I'm glad it's up a bit or steady BATB, hopefully will add more viewers with 12 episodes to go on S3.
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Post by Reyna on Jun 13, 2015 10:31:33 GMT -5
with you sis.
Bitterness will always be a factor, yet some come to the realization that his or her bitterness does not mean zilch to others. Many often find it difficult to resist temptation especially if connected through various social media sites. Despite his or her bitterness, not knowing what is going on with the show recently whether he or she wants to or not, would prove to be quite challenging nowadays. Using a person who shall remain nameless as an example, this person is relentlessly bitter with the direction each season embarks on, yet continues to watch the series nonstop. Overall, those who are bitter swallow their pride eventually.
LOL, pessimistic will never be a part of my vocabulary. This I promise you. When it comes to VinCat, I will always be on cloud nine.
You know me, always crazy busy. While I may not be able to post as much as I use too, you can always count on me to be around. I think that also once the premise for season 2 came out after the finale that Vincent would have memory loss was a downer for many fans...also the fact that it was also mentioned before the season 2 even aired that there would be 'love interests' for both characters ..I think there they put the final nail in many beasties coffins not to mention those that are unhappy about the character development or lack of in some cases. So many polls out there maybe there should be one to find out what turned season 1 beasties off. Just a thought You are exactly right. Being able to watch the episodes early did not help matters either. Once the detailed spoilers came out, many vowed never to watch the show again.
Love your poll idea. The poll could help us measure were everyone currently stands with the show. We can create the poll on our site and post the link on Twitter. It will also present us with an opportunity for more members.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Jun 13, 2015 14:07:14 GMT -5
with you sis.
Bitterness will always be a factor, yet some come to the realization that his or her bitterness does not mean zilch to others. Many often find it difficult to resist temptation especially if connected through various social media sites. Despite his or her bitterness, not knowing what is going on with the show recently whether he or she wants to or not, would prove to be quite challenging nowadays. Using a person who shall remain nameless as an example, this person is relentlessly bitter with the direction each season embarks on, yet continues to watch the series nonstop. Overall, those who are bitter swallow their pride eventually.
LOL, pessimistic will never be a part of my vocabulary. This I promise you. When it comes to VinCat, I will always be on cloud nine.
You know me, always crazy busy. While I may not be able to post as much as I use too, you can always count on me to be around. I think that also once the premise for season 2 came out after the finale that Vincent would have memory loss was a downer for many fans...also the fact that it was also mentioned before the season 2 even aired that there would be 'love interests' for both characters ..I think there they put the final nail in many beasties coffins not to mention those that are unhappy about the character development or lack of in some cases. So many polls out there maybe there should be one to find out what turned season 1 beasties off. Just a thought Even with spoilers and Canada airing early, I would think that any US fan of S1 would want to watch the premiere of S2 to make their own judgement. So I think there must have been other factors on why the S2 premiere numbers were down. Maybe a related factor could be early watching via non-legit means. If they didn't like it watching via the non-legit method, they wouldn't watch again via proper means. However even if that did happen, it's unlikely it would have affected the US ratings much, since the number of homes with that Neilsen Box is so small relative the actual US population. The poll idea is great, but there's one kink. How do you get those disenchanted S1 viewers to vote on the poll? They're not around anymore to see the poll. The results could be flawed, because many who might respond to the poll are probably still watching and just giving their opinion on why those not watching are not watching.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 13, 2015 14:18:12 GMT -5
I think that also once the premise for season 2 came out after the finale that Vincent would have memory loss was a downer for many fans...also the fact that it was also mentioned before the season 2 even aired that there would be 'love interests' for both characters ..I think there they put the final nail in many beasties coffins not to mention those that are unhappy about the character development or lack of in some cases. So many polls out there maybe there should be one to find out what turned season 1 beasties off. Just a thought Even with spoilers and Canada airing early, I would think that any US fan of S1 would want to watch the premiere of S2 to make their own judgement. So I think there must have been other factors on why the S2 premiere numbers were down. Maybe a related factor could be early watching via non-legit means. If they didn't like it watching via the non-legit method, they wouldn't watch again via proper means. However even if that did happen, it's unlikely it would have affected the US ratings much, since the number of homes with that Neilsen Box is so small relative the actual US population. The poll idea is great, but there's one kink. How do you get those disenchanted S1 viewers to vote on the poll? They're not around anymore to see the poll. The results could be flawed, because many who might respond to the poll are probably still watching and just giving their opinion on why those not watching are not watching. the show moved to mondays and i guess many of the tvd fans who watched on thursdays but were not that bothered decided to not watch another season. there are many viewers (like moi) who for shows i am not sure about i give them one season and then i quit. so that could be a factor.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Jun 13, 2015 14:26:42 GMT -5
Even with spoilers and Canada airing early, I would think that any US fan of S1 would want to watch the premiere of S2 to make their own judgement. So I think there must have been other factors on why the S2 premiere numbers were down. Maybe a related factor could be early watching via non-legit means. If they didn't like it watching via the non-legit method, they wouldn't watch again via proper means. However even if that did happen, it's unlikely it would have affected the US ratings much, since the number of homes with that Neilsen Box is so small relative the actual US population. The poll idea is great, but there's one kink. How do you get those disenchanted S1 viewers to vote on the poll? They're not around anymore to see the poll. The results could be flawed, because many who might respond to the poll are probably still watching and just giving their opinion on why those not watching are not watching. the show moved to mondays and i guess many of the tvd fans who watched on thursdays but were not that bothered decided to not watch another season. there are many viewers (like moi) who for shows i am not sure about i give them one season and then i quit. so that could be a factor. I agree. I still see many comments out in the general public type of sites that lead me to believe most casual viewers thought the show was canceled, even after S1 in some cases. I think having a strong or weak lead in show is likely the biggest factor. Air it after the Flash or Arrow in the regular season and I'd bet my next pay check that the ratings would dramatically improve. Left alone as it is now, or paired with another low rated show, the ratings will remain flat. If Reign were on its own without TVD as a lead in, its numbers would surely be worse than BATB.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 1:53:22 GMT -5
I have to say first that I liked S2 a lot, probably more than S1 even if I had to watch the S2 epidode twice to better understand and appriciate what's going on. S1 was simplier in a way and linear so IMO cound reach a larger number of (distracted) viewer. Character are more complicated in S2 with so many shades and all episode need you to pay more attention to fully understand. The best way for me was to rewatch all episodes in a row and not one a week. I think that the average age of viewer is an important factor that affect rating: reading comments in italian group of discussion I understand that some younger viewer reported the episode and all the issue that comes with it in a very different point of view like they are watching a totally different show. So IMO is that BATB is not a light show but display a lot of character and story line deep points that probably could not be understood or doesn't reach a wider younger audience like TVD for example. And S3 is a more adult story so we don't have any chance to involve those people that can took a show to a higher rate (but I would have like a lighter BATB? Probably not because I love Vincat deep struggle and relationship as it is) Plus my husband (that yesterday for the first time involved me in a talk about batb) told me something interesting: show like arrow or game of thrones are based on pre-existing books so they start with a passionate audience that can only get larger with those added to watch the show. Plus writers have a very strong based storyline and their work is only to develop a good dialog for the Tv. BATB has nothing of that kind. Everything must be build on the way. I'm trying to help rating as i can as an international beasties. I hope the best for them
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