Ditto to everyone about Austin Basis. I feel like the role of JT was made for him. He is outstanding as JT. He is the most loyal friend and he always provides the much needed comedic relief of the show. If we all could have a JT friend in our lives we'd be very lucky. Despite all he's been through w/ Vincent & because of Vincent regardless if he signed him up for Muirfield or not, he's still remained a loyal friend. Even when V was at his worst in S2 and was still there for him and that says a lot about his character. It definitely went a lot deeper than his guilt for signing V up. Why I loved him so much more than Tess as a supporting character is because I never felt there were limits to JT's loyalty to V. Plus, I loved all his one liners, and that a lot of the time he was the voice of reason when everything was so hectic. I loved the softer side of JT and his vulnerability especially when it came to him and Tess, and think Austin nailed how he came across on screen. Also regardless of the status of JT's life & love life he was always happy for V and always supported him no matter what. He never pushed things on V, where Tess I never felt that from her. The vibe I've got from her for most of S2 was I felt like she was bitter & if she wasn't happy in her life Cat shouldn't be either. The way Tess came off this season before 2x17 wasn't all that great. She always took the opportunity to point of V's faults. And I didn't like how she pushed Cat into Gabe instead of encouraging her to figure things out first. And I plus is Austin in real life is such great guy and an amazing King Beastie. Love him! So hands no dilemma here in picking Austin
He never pushed things on V, where Tess I never felt that from her. The vibe I've got from her for most of S2 was I felt like she was bitter & if she wasn't happy in her life Cat shouldn't be either. The way Tess came off this season before 2x17 wasn't all that great. She always took the opportunity to point of V's faults. And I didn't like how she pushed Cat into Gabe instead of encouraging her to figure things out first.
This! I've almost always had an issue with Tess. I only started liking her recently when she made me cry during the S2 finale hospital scene when she was worried about losing J.T. I still don't like the Tess/J.T. relationship. I dunno. I don't see the chemistry there but that's just me.
First thanks for the new thread and for the lovely banner too now about the vote ? i want to say it was a hard choice but whom i would be kidding with that ? of course i voted for AB (JT) do you expecting someone else ? for all the reasons you all mentioned and even more being one of the reason i fall in love with this show in the first place , the fact that he played a role of a real friend everyone dreams to have in real life but unfortunately only a few are blessed by having a friend like JT because people like him are rare in the hard cruel world we live in ! and the fact that AB did a great job in delivering the character ?! i know from the beginning that he is a very talent actor because he is the only one from the main cast i watched any of his work before but as JT he was really on top , he manage to put a smile on my face in the most painful episodes beside of course the fact that he is amazing and very kind in his dealing with the beasties even when some of the audience gave him a hard time because their anger /frustrating from the writers /the showmakers one thing more for me to mention : if AB(JT) wasn't on the list i would vote for SR(Gabe) although they wasted a lot of his talent for half of S2 when they tried to force him on us in a role he didn't fit in (as a love interest or the Mr ,Right ) but when they got him back to the perfect role for him he was amazing again ! SR is brilliant in playing a villain , he is the baddie i love to hate , so why changing something working perfectly ?! Heather is lovely character too and Nicole is a lovely young actress , i would vote for her after SR if i can vote for more than one option lol as for Tess now that is the one i think i would never vote for her ! no offense to Nina but Tess's character never was one of the character i like to see neither on screen nor in the real world ! a woman who had an affair with her married boss ? and in top of that has the nerve to act superior and judge other people ?! and as a friend ? oh God i would just say this : she is the kind of friend i am grateful i don't have one like her in my real life !
but again AB is on the list so done deal for me ! it is like when the moon is shining in its full size in the sky that i can't turn my eye from it to look to the stars !
Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Nov 24, 2014 10:16:24 GMT -5
It is lovely to have a category that is easy to vote for. Yes, I like what Tess and Heather both contribute overall to the series. And I look forward to Heather being a regular next season as I always enjoyed seeing Cat as a protective big sister. Heather's moments during season 2 were good, and it was wonderful to see Cat have someone that she could open up to about Vincent in addition to Tess. As others have mentioned before me, Tess seemed at a bad place in her life for much of this season. It took awhile, in fact, all the way up to 218 I would argue before Tess really became integrated fully into the BATB equivalent of the Scooby Gang with JT, Vincent and Catherine. So although I love Tess' loyalty to Cat, she wasn't always a good influence on Cat at a time when Cat desperately needed it. Yes, I like Heather and Tess, but they can't compete with JT.
JT and Vincent's "bromance" just helps make the show. No matter how dark an episode can get, JT always livens it up with his one-liners and observations. And JT was there for Cat during the 3 months when Vincent was missing, and the two got close. Catherine even goes to comfort JT when Vincent has to leave in "Beast Is the New Black." Their scene was so sweet, and the two are basically family now. JT has always, without fail, taken actions to protect Vincent. Even reporting Vincent to Muirfield, as he did so thinking they would help protect Vincent. JT willingly surrendered the life he had built in order to hide Vincent originally, and JT is willing to accept whatever life Vincent chooses for himself, even when it looked like Vincent was choosing Beast and Tori rather than Catherine. And JT willingly breaks the "bro code" in both seasons in what he tells Catherine in order to try to promote what Vincent wants.
Most touching for me this season was episodes 213 through 215, especially 215, when JT is the one to encourage Vincent to pursue the woman he loves, despite feeling unworthy at the time. JT reminds Vincent that it is human to mess up and that Gabe was wrong to tell Vincent that he didn't deserve Cat ("and you let him live?" --LOVED this line in 215 when Gabe had told Vincent to stay away from Cat and JT says this!). JT encouraged Vincent to right himself for the sake of himself, and the rest of his life would fall into place. And it did. Mainly because Vincent had such wonderful support in both Cat and JT. And Vincent ultimately does the right thing in 215 because of JT's encouragement. JT is, and hopefully always will be, the best cheering section for Vincent (in addition to his beloved Cat). You just got to love JT. So he gets my vote. Easy Breezy.
Post by BeastieBoy on Nov 24, 2014 17:51:49 GMT -5
I'm still thinking about this one. JT is the easy choice. However, unpopular as he might be, Gabe was core to S2.
Sendhil's portrayal really did make me believe he was a good guy for most of the season. His fall back into darkness was well played by Sendhil as well. I like him better as a bad guy than a good guy. I also like Heather and Nicole's portrayal as the ditzy younger sister, but she wasn't in enough episodes to get my vote.
Last Edit: Nov 24, 2014 17:52:21 GMT -5 by BeastieBoy
alwayscrazedbatbfan: Food for Beastie Thought and Consumption---At what moment did you KNOW that VINCAT were meant to be? Was it a particular line or scene? Did they fall for one another at the same time? WAS it fate or choice?
Jan 19, 2017 17:33:28 GMT -5
BeastieBoy: As soon as Cat said "You're him" in the Pilot.
Jan 22, 2017 2:38:47 GMT -5
alwayscrazedbatbfan: Oh, but that MOMENT on Vincent's bed when he tends to her wounds. And then when he tells his story, and she touches his face JUST so sad and feeling his pain. The Pilot was just MADE for those special VinCat Moments!
Jan 25, 2017 19:19:46 GMT -5
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Jan 26, 2017 10:10:10 GMT -5
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Feb 1, 2017 18:57:29 GMT -5
alwayscrazedbatbfan: I agree, Daya. It was Love at First Sight, even if neither of them realized it at the time. (And he was secretly following her and checking in on her all those years later. . . .AND saved that newspaper article that let him know who she was!
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alwayscrazedbatbfan: HEY DAYABEASTS4!! Was wondering where you were at! We are doing the episode rewatches under the "Series Rewatch" thread. Just so it is easy to find. However, if others want, we could open a New Thread each week under the episode title. LET ME KNOW!
Feb 22, 2017 21:05:11 GMT -5
alwayscrazedbatbfan: Would LOVE to have more Beasties involved in the rewatches. You really DO get so much more out of the episodes when knowing where the series is going to go. There is SO MUCH I MISSED in 2012 when it first came on!
Feb 22, 2017 21:06:26 GMT -5
alwayscrazedbatbfan: Hey, DVD box set of the series being released!! Anyone know what is specifically contained in the box set as far as extras???
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