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Post by Reyna on Jan 17, 2013 3:49:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't have a problem with Alex being around for 4 episodes if the writers used her to reinforce the Vincat relationship. Up until now Catherine is the only one who has had a chance to choose Vincent over a very viable option, but as Kreuk said in response to this question: Access: Do you think he kind of wants to spend time with her because she’s the only girl he’s had interactions with in the last five years? He can’t exactly date.
Kristin: From Catherine’s perspective, God, I hope not (laughs)! Like, ‘I only want to hang out with you because you’re the only girl that talks to me,’ would suck for her.So Alex could be used to make it clear that Vincent also is choosing Catherine. But unless this episode description is very misleading with its use of "romantic cabin getaway" or Catherine is deliberately mislead by Alex or jumps to the wrong conclusion about why Vincent and Alex are going away, I don't see how this goes well. Maybe he takes Alex to the cabin to break up with her and after he does that she pretends to handle it like a mature adult but instead decides to turn him in. Although Ryan said in some interview that his ex doesn't know about his beastly side so maybe she would just turn him in to the FBI which would lead Muirfield to him. But if Vincent only goes crawling back to Catherine with his tail between his legs because his ex betrays him, gets killed, or just can't handle his beastly side, well that certainly wouldn't have me rooting for the pair. The obstacles in the Vincat relationship shouldn't be their own stupid or wishy washy behaviour but Muirfield, the hunt for the vigilante, and Vincent's mutating DNA. Then Vincat could work together along with JT and Evan trying to surreptitiously track down or interview other Muirfield doctors who might have information on stopping the mutation. Exactly Pippin, yet, the writers are now having Vincent risk his identity, not even caring what Cat and JT have already risked for him, only to spend time with Alex at an ice-skating ring, which he appeared to be having the time of his life. Vincent then decides to spend time with her in a cabin, which is supposed be romantic, only to have Cat interrupt them. Really hoping the spoilers are misleading, yet, really having a hard time believing they are that far off.
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Post by kasobel83 on Jan 17, 2013 5:44:00 GMT -5
I really don't know what to think anymore. I tried, really hard, to be optimistic. But all the news we got concern Alex/Vincent. I accept he might have old feelings for her, but don't press the button to far. Romantic getaway ? Seriously. They didn't think it's a little too much ? Especially for a character who's there for 4 episodes. I'm trying to think straight, being optimistic. After all, they gave us a lot of information btw Alex/Vincent, maybe we're gonna have surprises for Vincat. But even if Alex dies, or works with Murfield, whatever happens, Vincent have to beg Cat for her forgiveness. Because she's the only one, with JT, who's been faithful to him. I won't be at his side... Even if she has to be with someone else, fine for me, I hope miss red head not going to make him a jerk... 'Cause i'm done with series who think fans are stupid. I used to loved Vampire Diaries, before I've been demoralized by the last and the new season. I won't lost my time, and love a show that much to be fooled again. We don't even know yet if this show is going to have a new season and they're already destroying what they build in nine episodes.
They should give us hope for Vincat... just one... after all they gave us about Alex, I think we deserved it...
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Post by eclecticphilly on Jan 17, 2013 8:15:48 GMT -5
Okay the episode descriptions and spoiler pics are really annoying me. I mean we were all so happy with the PCA win and then they have to keep coming in a ruining our good mood with these episode descriptions and spoiler pics. I mean for god sake leave us alone already. We know its going to be bad and we've already had to wait longer than any fanbase for our show to come back. Enough with the freakin spoilers.
With that said here's where I think its going. The last thing Cat tells Vincent is that his DNA is becoming more animal . Imagine what Vincent must be going through knowing he's about to become not human at all. No love with Catherine or having a life again. But becoming permenantly the thing he hates, a killer beast. That will have to, for everyone's sake, be locked up in a cage forever. Everytime he sees Catherine it has to remind him that he's on limited time. We all believe that Evan will help with stabilizing his DNA but Vincent doesn't know that. He believes now that he's loosing his humanity.
And JT is a reminder that not only can he never have a life again, that there is no cure for what was done to him and that he's in "la la land" if Vincent ever thinks he can have a normal life. And everytime he looks at his friend he has to see to see what JT gave up for him; continues giving up for him. And the guilt that would come with all of that.
JT and Catherine know everything about Vincent and keep him grounded in reality.
And I think for Vincent seeing Alex, someone who has no idea what he really is, would be a way to escape. A person he can run to and just be Vincent. Not the guy loosing his humanity and constantly depended on a friend. But a normal guy who can have feelings for someone and not put them at risk because a government agency is after him or because he can become the beast at any moment. But someone who has everything under control and is free to live his life. After 10 years living in a warehouse with only one person as his window to the outside world. It would have to feel like true freedom. He wants to live a fantasy instead of dealing with the harsh reality of what he is and what he is becoming. And I can't really blame him for that.
I think this whole story line is about Vincents denial of who he is. Not his denial for his feelings for Cat. But in some way it all comes back, the danger from Muirfield and from the beast. A realization that he doesn't have feelings for Alex just a desire to be normal. And that is how he ends up going back to Cat.
Not to mention when the Evan stuff started coming out at the beginning of series, the spoilers made it look like Evan was a real threat to the relationship. When all it ended up being was a couple of tiny moments that never really stopped Cat and Vincent from moving forward in a relationship.
So I guess I'm leaning toward these spoilers being worse than what will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 9:48:07 GMT -5
Oh my.....I just read the synopsis on Tumblr. Lovely.....more great news (sarcasm)
I feel the same way. I stopped watching TVD because I was just sick and tired!!!
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Post by alix on Jan 17, 2013 10:24:52 GMT -5
I think this whole story line is about Vincents denial of who he is. Not his denial for his feelings for Cat. But in some way it all comes back, the danger from Muirfield and from the beast. A realization that he doesn't have feelings for Alex just a desire to be normal. And that is how he ends up going back to Cat. Not to mention when the Evan stuff started coming out at the beginning of series, the spoilers made it look like Evan was a real threat to the relationship. When all it ended up being was a couple of tiny moments that never really stopped Cat and Vincent from moving forward in a relationship. So I guess I'm leaning toward these spoilers being worse than what will happen. awwww hope you're right, love how you see things
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Post by dickens on Jan 17, 2013 11:16:07 GMT -5
I am going to try and look on the bright side and at the big picture. At their age it is reasonable to assume they have both loved others. It is very meaningful if Vincent has to choose between Catherine and his old love. We all know he will choose Catherine, hopefully not because Alex is a bad person, but rather because he realizes that Catherine is the love of his life. It will mean he loves Catherine more than he loved Alex. This is HUGE. He was going to marry Alex and yet he chooses Catherine. I am looking as this storyline as an opportunity for the writer's and actors to show us how much Vincent loves Catherine. I am going to trust them to deliver! That is how I am going to look at it anyway... deep breath
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jan 17, 2013 11:22:54 GMT -5
Okay the episode descriptions and spoiler pics are really annoying me. I mean we were all so happy with the PCA win and then they have to keep coming in a ruining our good mood with these episode descriptions and spoiler pics. I mean for god sake leave us alone already. We know its going to be bad and we've already had to wait longer than any fanbase for our show to come back. Enough with the freakin spoilers. ^ Well said!! ^ That's brilliant!! I like the way you think!
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Post by oa on Jan 17, 2013 13:34:20 GMT -5
ok, so i will try to look at the positive side of things although i am still skeptical of who the writters will make this happen with the things the pics and descriptions are saying ... *crossing my fingers and taking deep breath<edited>
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 17, 2013 16:06:16 GMT -5
. I bet that statement about accepting everything about him is laying on the editing room floor for ep 10. . This comment of yours set my head spinning..........it wouldn't be the first time this season that the episode was critically altered from the promo. Catherine says to Vincent that she 'accepts all of what you are'.......then we get all these spoilers of the Valex romantic reunion(s).........it just makes everything BS, IMO. If they edit that statement out, I will be furious. Catherine is opening her heart to Vincent right there.........probably more than she has for anyone and Vincent runs off with the Ex.? Curious how Vincent responds to Catherine's statement? They probably conveniently get interrupted and Vincent runs off........
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Post by eclecticphilly on Jan 17, 2013 16:45:07 GMT -5
Wow thanks for saying nice things about my theory! I'm so sorry about the spelling and grammar stuff. It will teach me not write posts before my first cup of coffee! As much as all the spoilers have upset me both individually and as a whole, the writers are not going to sink the Vincat ship. Vincent becoming an idiot and hurting Catherine could happen but Vincent becoming a dick and hurting Catherine, the writers would have to know better. I honestly do believe that this conflict is necessary but I also think that they know the reaction each of these pics and spoilers is having on all of us and how much we talk about them. It gets the word out and makes sure everyone is glued to there TV whether preparing for angry shouting or tears or happiness when the show comes back. So I think/hope they are playing with us a bit and it won't be that bad. I think the line from the promo is in there. If Vincent is looking to live the life of a normal man than Catherine saying she accepts all of who he is, well that would actually be more reason for him to seek out Alex. Catherine accepts Vincent and the beast. But all Vincent wants to be is himself. Remember in Bridesmaid Up! all Vincent wanted to do was go to the wedding to be Catherine's date and she kept telling him no it was to dangerous. Alex doesn't know anything about Vincent being in danger she wouldn't try to stop him from being who he was when they were engaged. Vincent "feels better" and wants to act the way he feels. Catherine and JT won't let him. Going to Alex, he can act how he feels and deny what Evan found out. I HOPE because otherwise Vincent is a dick and I'm going to kill my tv
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Post by evanarose on Jan 17, 2013 17:48:51 GMT -5
I think this whole story line is about Vincents denial of who he is. Not his denial for his feelings for Cat. But in some way it all comes back, the danger from Muirfield and from the beast. A realization that he doesn't have feelings for Alex just a desire to be normal. And that is how he ends up going back to Cat. Not to mention when the Evan stuff started coming out at the beginning of series, the spoilers made it look like Evan was a real threat to the relationship. When all it ended up being was a couple of tiny moments that never really stopped Cat and Vincent from moving forward in a relationship. So I guess I'm leaning toward these spoilers being worse than what will happen. awwww hope you're right, love how you see things I like this perspective and also the fact that the writers could be using Alex to reinforce the vincat relationship- to let people know that he would choose Catherine no matter what, even if there was another girl in the picture. Not just because she is the only girl he interacts with... As for people who been venting about choosing batb for the PCAs and then this storyline coming up...At the time of the PCAs they were already up to filming episode 13...I couldn't even guess what episode the writers would've been up to but I'm sure after the PCAs the writers would've taken the fans into consideration and how important the show is. My guess is they are probably up to forming ideas for the finale. They don't know whether batb will get a 2nd season; so I would assume that they would pair vincat by the end of the season- so at least if there wasn't a 2nd season vincat fans would be happy with the closure. I'd like to think if batb continues, they'd go along the route of adventures of lois and clark. This show is a little darker than that, but in terms of the relationship and how it goes.
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Post by evanarose on Jan 17, 2013 17:53:25 GMT -5
. I bet that statement about accepting everything about him is laying on the editing room floor for ep 10. . This comment of yours set my head spinning..........it wouldn't be the first time this season that the episode was critically altered from the promo. Catherine says to Vincent that she 'accepts all of what you are'.......then we get all these spoilers of the Valex romantic reunion(s).........it just makes everything BS, IMO. If they edit that statement out, I will be furious. Catherine is opening her heart to Vincent right there.........probably more than she has for anyone and Vincent runs off with the Ex.? Curious how Vincent responds to Catherine's statement? They probably conveniently get interrupted and Vincent runs off........ Isn't it Catherine says that comment from her hospital bed? Are you saying they would chop that scene out and then have her say it again in a different circumstance? Part of me wants to see that conversation where Alex does find out but doesn't accept him, so Cat says ''well I accept all of what you are, so I'm the one you should be with'' lol
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jan 17, 2013 17:55:20 GMT -5
I think the line is a voice over in the promo so we don't know when she says it. Or am I mistaken? Hmm.
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Post by evanarose on Jan 17, 2013 17:59:36 GMT -5
Hmm...It looks like the 'I accept' bit is from her hospital bed but the rest is voice over
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Post by Reyna on Jan 17, 2013 18:50:18 GMT -5
awwww hope you're right, love how you see things I like this perspective and also the fact that the writers could be using Alex to reinforce the vincat relationship- to let people know that he would choose Catherine no matter what, even if there was another girl in the picture. Not just because she is the only girl he interacts with... As for people who been venting about choosing batb for the PCAs and then this storyline coming up...At the time of the PCAs they were already up to filming episode 13...I couldn't even guess what episode the writers would've been up to but I'm sure after the PCAs the writers would've taken the fans into consideration and how important the show is. My guess is they are probably up to forming ideas for the finale. They don't know whether batb will get a 2nd season; so I would assume that they would pair vincat by the end of the season- so at least if there wasn't a 2nd season vincat fans would be happy with the closure. I'd like to think if batb continues, they'd go along the route of adventures of lois and clark. This show is a little darker than that, but in terms of the relationship and how it goes. Episode 1.13 (Script Episode 1.12) was actually filmed before the winter hiatus. During the PCAs, I believe they were filming episode 1.14 (Script Episode 1.13). Bearing this in mind, the writers and producers could have easily modified this episode, or will be rewriting the remaining episodes of this season, especially after winning the PCA. From what I read on other websites, we may be closer to receiving that second season then we think. However, after all the uproar we have caused, I do believe the writers and producers will be a little bit more meticulous with the back end episodes, and probably will be slightly more cautious in the next season.
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