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Post by debbyts on Jan 17, 2013 0:07:52 GMT -5
maybe Alex is Muirfield and all along Vin and Cat knoiw this. But if only Cat knew and that is why she went to save them then it meant vincent is a douch. I have been obsessed with this show. But i too think i may skip the next four shows. I know i cant really do that but it will be sad. the CW writers have just ruined the show. There is no way to keep the Vincat magic. NO saving it. Not if Vincent goes on a cabin trip with Alex. But because he was blacking out he did not go camping with Cat. Did not show up for dinner as he blacked out. they are both Afraid to be at Wedding . but vincent can go into a skating rink??? The CW sure have been stroking us along hoping Vincat will get together ( maybe the title of the show suggests that---DA) They are so busy with all these obsticles for Vincat that they are killing the show. I hope all these spoilers are wrong or i do not care if there is a season 2. i may sound mad but i am . I have been reading these spoilers all week. I have been putting my time into ARROW and SCANDAL. I am not afraid to watch these 2 shows. looking forward to it. the bad thing about being to obsessed in a show is being disapointed. I read all the fanfiction. this past 5 weeks that is what i mostly do online. they are very good with better storys. I feel sorry for Catherine. Vincent is a Jerk
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Post by hcastro on Jan 17, 2013 0:10:29 GMT -5
OHMYGOD!!! And really, I just don't see how Vincent can get back in her good graces after all this crap she's going through, Vincent is going to have be on his hands and knees begging for her damn forgiveness after all this. How does Vincent get back into all "our" good graces too? Because just the thought of him "CONSIDERING" and actually "GOING ON A ROMANTIC GETAWAY" with Alex, just like that *snaps finger<edited>............makes me livid. It is like he broke a "trust"........once its broken, it takes a long time to get back , if ever. ^^THIS!! I mean we could forgive a little 'walk down memory lane' kiss.........but to go away with her on a FREAKIN' ROMANTIC GETAWAY!! Unforgivable....you can't just take that back and forget about it! NO WAY! And the way Catherine has put up walls........if I was her, I would put up those walls so fast, Vincent couldn't leap over them if he tried. On a side note.....does it seem that Evan and J.T. are "working together" in some fashion? That is how I took it? SuzieQ, I'm livid as well. So in the span of 4 episodes...Vincent/Ex share an intimate embrace in front of Catherine, go on a date where they are frolicking around the damn floor all over each other, and go on a "romantic getaway" in a cabin in the woods. Tell me again how we are supposed to believe that VinCat are soulmates and meant for each other? All of this stuff happens in 4 freakin episodes and it's taken 9 episodes for VinCat just to hold hands, for goodness sakes!!!! I agree that it's a huge slap in the face to Catherine, I really do feel like he's broken her trust. I don't care if they aren't real "boyfriend/girlfriend" yet, if they do keep the line in the episode of Catherine telling Vincent that she accepts all of who he is and he still goes out and starts going on romantic dates/getaways with his Ex....WTF??? I just don't see how Catherine will forgive him so easily, it will take a LONG time for him to regain her trust again. And frankly, I don't blame her. I could see her trying to keep her distance when all this Ex drama is over. After all, it appears he's going to treat her like dirt until the Ex is gone. And after all the heartbreak, can you you really blame her if she wants nothing to do with Vincent for a while? Say goodbye to our hopeful thoughts about seeing something good happening on a Valentine's Day themed episode...I just can't see Catherine in a forgiving mood after all is said and done. He will need to work overtime to make it up to her. Again, poor Catherine. This is just going to plain torturous for her. She has to go and save Vincent/Ex's asses and interrupt them while they are having a romantic rendezvous in the woods..just freakin lovely. What a big slap in the face for Catherine...she tries to stay away, but can't because her love for Vincent is more than the heartbreak/pain she feels because of him. And kudos to Catherine (and the writers) for being a strong woman...because if it was me, I would've left him to rot in the woods, lol. As for Evan/JT...I do think they will be working together. I forget the interview, but I remember Austin saying that at first, Evan/JT will be working together but it will be JT working with him in ways that help protect Vincent. Eventually, I could see Vincent/JT/Catherine letting him in on their "secret" and working to find a cure for Vincent. But for now, it will probably be JT working with Evan in a way to take some attention away from Vincent.
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Post by pippin on Jan 17, 2013 0:22:09 GMT -5
First the episode descriptions gave too much information now they piss viewers off. Great!
Well the writers are going to be taking questions this Friday during both the east and west coast airings of Bridesmaid Up so there's our chance to fire away
BeautyandtheBeastCW @batbwriters Good catch, @eemily1_1989. Yes - we will do a live TWEET-PEAT for both East and West coast airings on of "Bridesmaid Up!" on Fri 1/18!
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Post by evanarose on Jan 17, 2013 0:23:42 GMT -5
I hope Cat doesn't give in too easily to get back together after this.... I don't want her to appear desperate and needy after all the emotional crap she's up for. But of course, what's probably gonna happen? Vincent will save her life and all things are fine again I mean it shouldn't be simple as that! I mean it's great, he saved her life but it doesn't solve the problem with the ex! Gosh, I almost want her to kiss somebody else so Vincent can realize what he's loosing!! Of course I want them together but he has to work for it. But now I'm also worried about the ratings. I mean some fans would be too mad to even watch the next 4 episodes.
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Post by curly on Jan 17, 2013 0:26:01 GMT -5
Well now we know why they didn't give the episode description right away. What really is sad about this whole thing is that Catherine probably knows where to find him because that is where they were suppose to go unless JT told her and that is just as bad. The idea that Catherine has to interrupt their romantic getaway sucks. I hope she takes what little pride she will have after that and tell him to go scratch. What is obvious is that if Catherine has to go all "cold turkey" than Vincent's "emotions" for his ex not only "surprised' Vincent but also Catherine or more like <edited> slapped her with them. She had so many doubts after he didn't show up for dinner now what. I bet that statement about accepting everything about him is laying on the editing room floor for ep 10. The only thing I really care about is how Alex ends up leaving. If he makes her stay away for her safety we will have a long road ahead of us and she will return and this triangle will be hanging over our head for the rest of the series. It will be Vincat connects, disconnects, connects, disconnects then Vincat will decide they should be friends against their own feelings because it could never be while it is obvious they are so much more thus keeping them apart as long as possible like Kristin or Jay had mentioned. I'm beginning to think that any kiss will probably happen in a dream unless like I've said, possiblly Alex sees first hand what Vincent feels for Catherine and that what they had is in the past and Vincent agrees. This is the only scenario that can fix this fast but Jay said it gets quite dark at some point esp after killing so who know but I will still be watching and shaking my head while wincing. Oh and some of you guys are so funny. I just hope Catherine gets someone to get Vincents head spinning.
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Post by hcastro on Jan 17, 2013 0:55:30 GMT -5
Well now we know why they didn't give the episode description right away. What really is sad about this whole thing is that Catherine probably knows where to find him because that is where they were suppose to go unless JT told her and that is just as bad. The idea that Catherine has to interrupt their romantic getaway sucks. I hope she takes what little pride she will have after that and tell him to go scratch. What is obvious is that if Catherine has to go all "cold turkey" than Vincent's "emotions" for his ex not only "surprised' Vincent but also Catherine or more like <edited> slapped her with them. She had so many doubts after he didn't show up for dinner now what. I bet that statement about accepting everything about him is laying on the editing room floor for ep 10. The only thing I really care about is how Alex ends up leaving. If he makes her stay away for her safety we will have a long road ahead of us and she will return and this triangle will be hanging over our head for the rest of the series. It will be Vincat connects, disconnects, connects, disconnects then Vincat will decide they should be friends against their own feelings because it could never be while it is obvious they are so much more thus keeping them apart as long as possible like Kristin or Jay had mentioned. I'm beginning to think that any kiss will probably happen in a dream unless like I've said, possiblly Alex sees first hand what Vincent feels for Catherine and that what they had is in the past and Vincent agrees. This is the only scenario that can fix this fast but Jay said it gets quite dark at some point esp after killing so who know but I will still be watching and shaking my head while wincing. Oh and some of you guys are so funny. I just hope Catherine gets someone to get Vincents head spinning. Curly, I've said this before but I really think the Ex's arc needs to end in these next 4 episodes. The only reassurances we've got so far is that Vincent needs to close this chapter in his life in order to move on with Catherine. It would be totally stupid and quite frankly absurd if they leave the Ex's storyline open-ended leaving the possibility that she comes around in season 2 (if we are even lucky enough) to come stir up the triangle angle some more. If that happens, WTF is the point of her being around for 4 episodes? I really don't want them leaving this storyline unresolved. How are we supposed to believe in this "epic lovestory" if we don't have Vincent CHOOSING to be with Catherine and leaving his past behind. Again, if VinCat shippers are going to be heartbroken during these 4 episode the writers BETTER make the outcome of this arc worth it for us or they will be dropping a ton of viewers by the time it's over. That means we need to see Vincent make it definitive that he chooses to be with Catherine and that he leaves his Ex in the past where she belongs. If not, the writers will have totally ruined VinCat forever. I reiterate, the Ex needs to go and her storyline needs to END in these next 4 episodes or I call BS on whatever crap the writers try to shove down our throats to make me believe in VinCat. Why would I believe in VinCat if Vincent can't even choose between his Ex and Catherine? And like Reyna said, us Beasties worked hard to get them this PCA award and this is the reward we get?? I just don't see how many people will be happy with this story arc and once the show starts bleeding viewers, it will be difficult to get some of them back. Since the PCA's we've gotten NOTHING GOOD about VinCat...hell, we got heartbroken Catherine pictures and in the case of 1.11, no pics of Catherine at all who is a freakin lead!! These spoilers are getting worse and worse, and I'm hoping the writers are aware of the negative reaction. Just as Vincent needs to work his ass off to get back in OUR and Catherine's good graces, so do these damn writers.
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Post by Vincent Keller on Jan 17, 2013 1:20:55 GMT -5
First the episode descriptions gave too much information I agree! I've never seen such detailed descriptions than BATB!
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Post by curly on Jan 17, 2013 1:31:09 GMT -5
Just saying I would be interested to see under what circumstances the ex leaves. It will say a lot I think. Im hoping she's a temp but every show has a triangle or possible triangle of sorts. Vincent's possibilities are limited because he has been in hiding for ten years so it would naturally be someone pre-war or someone new which is unlikely at this time.. Catherine's ex pool is a little broader and she obviously has nothing holding her back from finding someone new in the future. Just saying this whole courting, safety, hiding, lying, too dangerous thing will go on for a while. The couple will probably have their moments and of course rest assured they are the end game but in their real time how long have they been hanging around. A few months? She didn't event know he had an ex-fiance. As a writer the idea is to keep them in each others orbit but not exactly on the same ship. If they were together now totally then what? At some point you would have to break them up. See McDreamy and Grey. That show has to rely on so many other ships right now because they are together. Better to anticipate couple getting together than breaking them up. So if thats the case then the will need obstacles but something not so egregious for the characters that they cut each other out completely. I may be too cynical now but I am thinking that by "explosive triangle" now may mean Alex blowing up their chances of getting together for a while but then again the producers said it was "cool' too so who knows. Maybe it leads to Vincat. Don't know. These descriptions can be taken literal sometimes or figuratively, usually on purpose. So Alex could be Muirfeild or an informant for and lured Vincent out to get caught. If that's the case then she's oughta here. I'd prefer it to be the latter but could see other possibilities. Just speculating. Will have to see how it plays out. They really cant have too many stories going on at once for budget reasons and the overall season so any arc would be on the smaller side in season 1.
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Post by Reyna on Jan 17, 2013 2:14:46 GMT -5
First the episode descriptions gave too much information now they piss viewers off. Great! Oh believe me when I say, many of us were pissed off way before the episode descriptions materialized. Even if the descriptions gave us less information, our frustration and anger would have remained the same. The main issue is Alex being around for four episodes. Next key issue is the writers and producers having Vincent easily romance her, when we could not even get one freaking VinCat kiss or date.
Quite honestly, I rather be blindsided now, then to be completely let down once the episodes actually air. Especially, if the writers and producers find some way to salvage this mess they have created.So Alex could be Muirfeild or an informant for and lured Vincent out to get caught. If that's the case then she's oughta here. I'd prefer it to be the latter but could see other possibilities. Just speculating. Will have to see how it plays out. They really cant have too many stories going on at once for budget reasons and the overall season so any arc would be on the smaller side in season 1. Yet here is the problem. If Alex does end up betraying Vincent, Vincent will not be choosing Cat. Despite all the risks Cat has taken for Vincent, he is practically telling her:
“I know you accept me for what I am blah…blah, and I know you are still recovering from your injuries, however, my ex-fiancée came back into my life and I want to work out things with her. Sorry Cat, I never meant to hurt you, can we still be friends.”
Despite however these episodes play out, I cannot see how Vincent would not be a jackass at this point.
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Post by curly on Jan 17, 2013 2:33:15 GMT -5
No Reyna, I agree. Its kinda of a jerk move because he chooses to expose himself to her for whatever reason I suppose we find out and then he is running around with her while Catherine is recovering. A lot is at risk and so much has changed. Is this being "as honest as he can be"? Hiding out in a cabin with his ex. Kinda sucks and I don't think Catherine will tolerate it or a 180 when she is gone. Either way to Catherine no matter how understanding she may be she will be hurt. Let's just say it doesn't validate very much what she thought she had going with him. Does she really have any choice but to retreat if he is having romantic getaways with another girl. Jeesh she felt guilty for a tipsy kiss with a co-worker after what 3 encounters??? All I know is that Alexis is gone by ep 14 right so that's good. I'm interested in how she leaves but annoyed that she is even a factor at this point. What is even more interesting is what has caused her up until this point to go "ColdT Turkey". Hate that she has to suck it up and save his ass. Catherine thought her chest hurt after being shot wait till this crap!lol
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Post by Reyna on Jan 17, 2013 3:04:30 GMT -5
Curly, I've said this before but I really think the Ex's arc needs to end in these next 4 episodes. The only reassurances we've got so far is that Vincent needs to close this chapter in his life in order to move on with Catherine. It would be totally stupid and quite frankly absurd if they leave the Ex's storyline open-ended leaving the possibility that she comes around in season 2 (if we are even lucky enough) to come stir up the triangle angle some more. If that happens, WTF is the point of her being around for 4 episodes? I really don't want them leaving this storyline unresolved. How are we supposed to believe in this "epic lovestory" if we don't have Vincent CHOOSING to be with Catherine and leaving his past behind. You said it Hscasto, she needs to be gone forever. I could give a flying *beep* how they end this arc. Hell, I literally will be jumping for joy and bouncing off the walls if the writers and producers kill her off.I completely agree with you on this Hscastro. Could have sworn we were supposed to be watching Beauty and the Beast, not Beauty, Ex-Fiancée, and the Beast. Really thought BATB was supposed to be an epic love story. Apparently not, given the writers and producers want to fill the story with nothing but love triangles, which is just discouraging. Regardless of VinCat ultimately being endgame, by the time they reach that point, quite a number of us probably would have become jaded and move on.
No Reyna, I agree. Its kinda of a jerk move because he chooses to expose himself to her for whatever reason I suppose we find out and then he is running around with her while Catherine is recovering. A lot is at risk and so much has changed. Is this being "as honest as he can be"? Hiding out in a cabin with his ex. Kinda sucks and I don't think Catherine will tolerate it or a 180 when she is gone. Either way to Catherine no matter how understanding she may be she will be hurt. Let's just say it doesn't validate very much what she thought she had going with him. Does she really have any choice but to retreat if he is having romantic getaways with another girl. Jeesh she felt guilty for a tipsy kiss with a co-worker after what 3 encounters??? All I know is that Alexis is gone by ep 14 right so that's good. I'm interested in how she leaves but annoyed that she is even a factor at this point. What is even more interesting is what has caused her up until this point to go "ColdT Turkey". Hate that she has to suck it up and save his ass. Catherine thought her chest hurt after being shot wait till this crap!lol This is exactly why we are so pissed off at the writers and producers. For the writers and producers to go ass backwards, is so freaking stupid and ridiculous.
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Post by debbyts on Jan 17, 2013 3:12:28 GMT -5
I just hope we are all overacting on these spoilers. But probably not. They have developed a bond between Vincat and now in the next 4 weeks taking it away. How many times did we all vote? ? The CW writers do not obviously appreciate us. They are going to lose alot of obsessed fans. I just hope they read these blogs. they should know the upset they are causing.
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Post by alix on Jan 17, 2013 3:26:42 GMT -5
a romantic getaway in a cabin? SERIOUSLY? i love the show, i'm obsessed with it, but i'm nearly off with this ex fiancee arc. I don't understand all of this, i tried, but just now it seems impossible. I'm off with love triangles. I hate them. I thought this story was about an epic love between a man and a woman. What do they show us? Love triangles. it's really poor. There are so many things to develop in this show without adding this stupid idea. I don"t know if writers have balls or if they want us to misunderstand those lines on purpose. Cold turkey isn't for me. I just want Catherine to go cold with him. He seems to act like a jerk, only thinking about himself and not about persons who risked their lives for him (Catherine and JT) . And this, it's not fair to them. It doesn't make sense. It's like he's not the same person anymore. ANd after alex is gone, what will they show us? other love triangles including Cat? it's ridiculous.
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Post by pippin on Jan 17, 2013 3:35:24 GMT -5
First the episode descriptions gave too much information now they piss viewers off. Great! Oh believe me when I say, many of us were pissed off way before the episode descriptions materialized. Even if the descriptions gave us less information, our frustration and anger would have remained the same. The main issue is Alex being around for four episodes. Next key issue is the writers and producers having Vincent easily romance her, when we could not even get one freaking VinCat kiss or date.
I wouldn't have a problem with Alex being around for 4 episodes if the writers used her to reinforce the Vincat relationship. Up until now Catherine is the only one who has had a chance to choose Vincent over a very viable option, but as Kreuk said in response to this question: Access: Do you think he kind of wants to spend time with her because she’s the only girl he’s had interactions with in the last five years? He can’t exactly date.
Kristin: From Catherine’s perspective, God, I hope not (laughs)! Like, ‘I only want to hang out with you because you’re the only girl that talks to me,’ would suck for her.So Alex could be used to make it clear that Vincent also is choosing Catherine. But unless this episode description is very misleading with its use of "romantic cabin getaway" or Catherine is deliberately mislead by Alex or jumps to the wrong conclusion about why Vincent and Alex are going away, I don't see how this goes well. Maybe he takes Alex to the cabin to break up with her and after he does that she pretends to handle it like a mature adult but instead decides to turn him in. Although Ryan said in some interview that his ex doesn't know about his beastly side so maybe she would just turn him in to the FBI which would lead Muirfield to him. But if Vincent only goes crawling back to Catherine with his tail between his legs because his ex betrays him, gets killed, or just can't handle his beastly side, well that certainly wouldn't have me rooting for the pair. The obstacles in the Vincat relationship shouldn't be their own stupid or wishy washy behaviour but Muirfield, the hunt for the vigilante, and Vincent's mutating DNA. Then Vincat could work together along with JT and Evan trying to surreptitiously track down or interview other Muirfield doctors who might have information on stopping the mutation.
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Post by alix on Jan 17, 2013 3:36:18 GMT -5
I just hope we are all overacting on these spoilers. But probably not. They have developed a bond between Vincat and now in the next 4 weeks taking it away. How many times did we all vote? ? The CW writers do not obviously appreciate us. They are going to lose alot of obsessed fans. I just hope they read these blogs. they should know the upset they are causing. agreed... what a shame. We have all these bad spoilers and nothing's good. WE are watching. WE! ANd everything we got is this stupid ridiculous love triangle. I don't care if Vincent&Alex are hot together, i don't care at all. Old memories, ok, he needs to let his old life behind him. But romantic escapes? Bwwwaaah! I really really hope there's something important we don't know. And I want a VinCat good spoiler, for a change...
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