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Post by dan on Dec 5, 2014 16:40:21 GMT -5
As I was saying,the Beast thing will continue to rule everything on a show named beauty AND THE BEAST. Of course,you can't have Batb without the beauty. Just like you can't have a show called Superman without Lois lane Spiderman without marry jane Smallville without Lana lang Twillight without Bella swan The great Samson without dellilah Snow white & 7 dwarfes without the dwarfes. Would you be so kind to let us know then what you want to see in S3 thats about the Beauty involving the Beast but without involving beast issues and centered round the Beauty? Your just always complaining but not explaining which direction you want S3 to go. the fact that you even have to asked what show would it be if it's the other way around only mean....
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Post by tenshi on Dec 5, 2014 17:46:56 GMT -5
Would you be so kind to let us know then what you want to see in S3 thats about the Beauty involving the Beast but without involving beast issues and centered round the Beauty? Your just always complaining but not explaining which direction you want S3 to go. the fact that you even have to asked what show would it be if it's the other way around only mean.... Don't put meanings into my words that aren't there! I asked you specifically what you want to see in S3. The fact that you aren't answering this concrete question is telling me that you just want to stir things up or what's the reason that you're not answering this simple question?
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Post by corinne on Dec 6, 2014 6:07:20 GMT -5
i like the direction you want even if its hard for me to complain if the romance takes over the show ( hopeless romantic always i am afraid ) --- but i totally get your point and agree too because the beastly things should be the main obstacle in the show ! otherwise we will have a regular relationship drama could be found in any other show cover this type of drama and nothing specially could only found in BATB or SCI series in general , right ? Raniamahd, yeah that's my point. A simple relationship drama would be just too commom. I want the beast thing to stay between them, sometimes saving them, and sometimes creating issues. And yes I wouldn't be against more and more romantic times, I absolutely LOVE them! Just the authors have to find the right balance and not let one side take the power against the other....
About obstacles in their love Relationship, I could think of a few ones that would tear them apart for a few épisodes, and have us hooked : secret past or new things remaining between them, her/him putting her/his life in danger, her/him taking a significant decision without asking her/his opinion, their family, their kid (have I read somewhere they could have a baby? => that would certainly bring drama and suspens!!), etc.
Dan, maybe not you, but some are voting for more romance over beast...that's what I read and that's what I was referring to.
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Post by ragulr25 on Dec 7, 2014 23:58:12 GMT -5
i would like to see the reincarnation of muirfield in season 3 just like hydra in captain america 2 .in a big way. vincent working for homeland and cat working for nypd mainly cuz they have a big police dept set and they have to use it. by seeing the genre of writers they r involved right now ,i think there might be a possibilty of another world/space portal stuff coming along the way. also i would like to see how the beast came into this world in first place.
VIN CHAR: there r so much possibility they can show. in pilot they showed a village which was attacked by vin unit.they can bring that up. also the last operation/mission which went wrong. and the million dollar qn :"how the hell did he get back to usa from afghanistan?" not a fan of vin being a doctor again.:-(
CAT CHAR: i m afraid with cat char they can bring up her family drama stuff but i still see that drama will link back to beast. of course they can show cat going as an undercover cop but still making cat go undercover for homeland is too far fetched. i think they can make a better use of kk in portraying as rebecca than cat right now.a cat/rebecca centric ep for kk fans.
JT CHAR: as far as jt char goes i think writers made a good judgement call in making him injected with some magic serum that healed him. and s3 they can be explored.
TESS CHAR: family drama with her brothers and a love interest for jt. major fan of jt&t than vincat.(sorry beasties).
HEATHER CHAR: i almost forgot cat has a sister (heather) she can do the catching up job what has been done so far. considering what her mother was into.
these r just my suggestions.
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Post by corinne on Dec 8, 2014 2:36:57 GMT -5
major fan of jt&t than vincat.(sorry beasties). Oh!!!!!!! That's tough! Ok respecting anyone's tastes, but it is tough arriving at work on a Monday morning and reading that, LOL On the other side, I agree with your million dollar question
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Dec 8, 2014 4:20:36 GMT -5
major fan of jt&t than vincat.(sorry beasties). Oh!!!!!!! That's tough! Ok respecting anyone's tastes, but it is tough arriving at work on a Monday morning and reading that, LOL On the other side, I agree with your million dollar question Lol
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Post by dan on Dec 8, 2014 10:18:22 GMT -5
the fact that you even have to asked what show would it be if it's the other way around only mean.... Don't put meanings into my words that aren't there! I asked you specifically what you want to see in S3. The fact that you aren't answering this concrete question is telling me that you just want to stir things up or what's the reason that you're not answering this simple question? I stated what I wanted to see so many times here, like you wouldn't believe. Since early season one even. Just look at my post history! I'm guessing you're new, my history with this show goes way back since before the pilot even aired. It might be hard for you to believe but back then,I was one of the few batb supporters on KK boards. Even defended it when it was struggling for ratings when other Kristin fans screamed for cancellation so she could move to bigger project. My beef with this show started by the middle of season one when I was the one who predicted the direction Batb was taking in which was becoming more and more about Vincent's problems and less and less about Cat's journey. I believe I made a thread abt that problem once and some members agreed. That was back then in season one,so imagine how 'happy I was with second season when my concerns was proven to come true.
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Post by tenshi on Dec 8, 2014 10:55:27 GMT -5
Don't put meanings into my words that aren't there! I asked you specifically what you want to see in S3. The fact that you aren't answering this concrete question is telling me that you just want to stir things up or what's the reason that you're not answering this simple question? I stated what I wanted to see so many times here, like you wouldn't believe. Since early season one even. Just look at my post history!I'm guessing you're new, my history with this show goes way back since before the pilot even aired. It might be hard for you to believe but back then,I was one of the few batb supporters on KK boards. Even defended it when it was struggling for ratings when other Kristin fans screamed for cancellation so she could move to bigger project. My beef with this show started by the middle of season one when I was the one who predicted the direction Batb was taking in which was becoming more and more about Vincent's problems and less and less about Cat's journey. I believe I made a thread abt that problem once and some members agreed. That was back then in season one,so imagine how 'happy I was with second season when my concerns was proven to come true. Sorry but I don't want to go through your post history. Can't you tell me in short what you want to see? What journey of Cat you want to see? Cat's history was tied to Beasts and Vincent from the beginning! So what sort of story should unfold thats not about beast issues and centered around Cat? For this case I can just imagine going back to procedural. Cat solving cases and maybe Vincent just sweeps in from time to time. But please not more than 5 minutes screen time per episode - because otherwise the episode would be centered around Vincent! Despite being also a KK Fan what a BORING show this would be! What I've got from your posts: you're a KK Fan. I would like to know: when did your enthusiasm for KK begun? Was it Smallville? If so - did you complained there too about the Clark centered episodes? I'm looking forward to a season 3 with VinCat solving cases together, supported by JTnT, overcoming obstacles that were thrown in their way. Also I would like to see more backstory to Cat AND Vincent, as they are linked to one another through Vanessa. And maybe a bigger conspiracy story in the back for the whole season. The direction of the last few episodes of S2 is exactly what I hope to see in S3 plus more romantic VinCat moments. The Story of Beauty and the Beast is a Love Story at first! So it has to be also about their relationship! And a relationship requires both of them!
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Post by dan on Dec 8, 2014 11:22:44 GMT -5
I stated what I wanted to see so many times here, like you wouldn't believe. Since early season one even. Just look at my post history!I'm guessing you're new, my history with this show goes way back since before the pilot even aired. It might be hard for you to believe but back then,I was one of the few batb supporters on KK boards. Even defended it when it was struggling for ratings when other Kristin fans screamed for cancellation so she could move to bigger project. My beef with this show started by the middle of season one when I was the one who predicted the direction Batb was taking in which was becoming more and more about Vincent's problems and less and less about Cat's journey. I believe I made a thread abt that problem once and some members agreed. That was back then in season one,so imagine how 'happy I was with second season when my concerns was proven to come true. Sorry but I don't want to go through your post history. Can't you tell me in short what you want to see? What journey of Cat you want to see? Cat's history was tied to Beasts and Vincent from the beginning! So what sort of story should unfold thats not about beast issues and centered around Cat? For this case I can just imagine going back to procedural. Cat solving cases and maybe Vincent just sweeps in from time to time. But please not more than 5 minutes screen time per episode - because otherwise the episode would be centered around Vincent! Despite being also a KK Fan what a BORING show this would be! What I've got from your posts: you're a KK Fan. I would like to know: when did your enthusiasm for KK begun? Was it Smallville? If so - did you complained there too about the Clark centered episodes? I'm looking forward to a season 3 with VinCat solving cases together, supported by JTnT, overcoming obstacles that were thrown in their way. Also I would like to see more backstory to Cat AND Vincent, as they are linked to one another through Vanessa. And maybe a bigger conspiracy story in the back for the whole season. The direction of the last few episodes of S2 is exactly what I hope to see in S3 plus more romantic VinCat moments. The Story of Beauty and the Beast is a Love Story at first! So it has to be also about their relationship! And a relationship requires both of them! Smallville wasn't named after Lana. Back then our probs were how Chloe got more storyline than Lana who was supposed to be the female lead. But yeah,we went through 8 years of SV,we Don need another role of hers that ended up the same,as in playing a supporter and love interest for the big man.Specially not on another cw show that nowhere near as big as SV. You know how the entire season two from start till the finale focused on Vincent changes,mission, him going beastly,his redemption, his capture,bla bla bla. Well,now I'm gonna ask for another season where the MAIN SUSPECT OF THE SEASON ARC is Cat for once.Just like what Vincent got in second season.Balance! 15 episodes centered on the Beast should be follow by another 15 episodes for the Beauty! There are so many stories they can write for Cat without revolve solely on beast issues, if the writers are clever and want to be fair with their leads. Why is it in order for the show to work they have to focus on Beast issue only? Shouldn't the Beauty allowed to have Issues that they need to focus on as well? Why the sexism? But we all know that's impossible since the stow is still run by the biggest jay/Vincent fanboy there is. So we know we're fighting a losing battle. Therefore here we are.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Dec 8, 2014 14:30:00 GMT -5
I stated what I wanted to see so many times here, like you wouldn't believe. Since early season one even. Just look at my post history!I'm guessing you're new, my history with this show goes way back since before the pilot even aired. It might be hard for you to believe but back then,I was one of the few batb supporters on KK boards. Even defended it when it was struggling for ratings when other Kristin fans screamed for cancellation so she could move to bigger project. My beef with this show started by the middle of season one when I was the one who predicted the direction Batb was taking in which was becoming more and more about Vincent's problems and less and less about Cat's journey. I believe I made a thread abt that problem once and some members agreed. That was back then in season one,so imagine how 'happy I was with second season when my concerns was proven to come true. Sorry but I don't want to go through your post history. Can't you tell me in short what you want to see? What journey of Cat you want to see? Cat's history was tied to Beasts and Vincent from the beginning! So what sort of story should unfold thats not about beast issues and centered around Cat? For this case I can just imagine going back to procedural. Cat solving cases and maybe Vincent just sweeps in from time to time. But please not more than 5 minutes screen time per episode - because otherwise the episode would be centered around Vincent! Despite being also a KK Fan what a BORING show this would be! What I've got from your posts: you're a KK Fan. I would like to know: when did your enthusiasm for KK begun? Was it Smallville? If so - did you complained there too about the Clark centered episodes? I'm looking forward to a season 3 with VinCat solving cases together, supported by JTnT, overcoming obstacles that were thrown in their way. Also I would like to see more backstory to Cat AND Vincent, as they are linked to one another through Vanessa. And maybe a bigger conspiracy story in the back for the whole season. The direction of the last few episodes of S2 is exactly what I hope to see in S3 plus more romantic VinCat moments. The Story of Beauty and the Beast is a Love Story at first! So it has to be also about their relationship! And a relationship requires both of them! ditto to all ! could not agree more
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Dec 8, 2014 14:38:53 GMT -5
Sorry but I don't want to go through your post history. Can't you tell me in short what you want to see? What journey of Cat you want to see? Cat's history was tied to Beasts and Vincent from the beginning! So what sort of story should unfold thats not about beast issues and centered around Cat? For this case I can just imagine going back to procedural. Cat solving cases and maybe Vincent just sweeps in from time to time. But please not more than 5 minutes screen time per episode - because otherwise the episode would be centered around Vincent! Despite being also a KK Fan what a BORING show this would be! What I've got from your posts: you're a KK Fan. I would like to know: when did your enthusiasm for KK begun? Was it Smallville? If so - did you complained there too about the Clark centered episodes? I'm looking forward to a season 3 with VinCat solving cases together, supported by JTnT, overcoming obstacles that were thrown in their way. Also I would like to see more backstory to Cat AND Vincent, as they are linked to one another through Vanessa. And maybe a bigger conspiracy story in the back for the whole season. The direction of the last few episodes of S2 is exactly what I hope to see in S3 plus more romantic VinCat moments. The Story of Beauty and the Beast is a Love Story at first! So it has to be also about their relationship! And a relationship requires both of them! Smallville wasn't named after Lana. Back then our probs were how Chloe got more storyline than Lana who was supposed to be the female lead. But yeah,we went through 8 years of SV,we Don need another role of hers that ended up the same,as in playing a supporter and love interest for the big man.Specially not on another cw show that nowhere near as big as SV. You know how the entire season two from start till the finale focused on Vincent changes,mission, him going beastly,his redemption, his capture,bla bla bla. Well,now I'm gonna ask for another season where the MAIN SUSPECT OF THE SEASON ARC is Cat for once.Just like what Vincent got in second season.Balance! 15 episodes centered on the Beast should be follow by another 15 episodes for the Beauty! There are so many stories they can write for Cat without revolve solely on beast issues, if the writers are clever and want to be fair with their leads. Why is it in order for the show to work they have to focus on Beast issue only? Shouldn't the Beauty allowed to have Issues that they need to focus on as well? W hy the sexism?But we all know that's impossible since the stow is still run by the biggest jay/Vincent fanboy there is. So we know we're fighting a losing battle. Therefore here we are. i am honestly fed up with the continuous misuse of words/terms such as the one highlighted
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Post by tenshi on Dec 8, 2014 16:08:52 GMT -5
Sorry but I don't want to go through your post history. Can't you tell me in short what you want to see? What journey of Cat you want to see? Cat's history was tied to Beasts and Vincent from the beginning! So what sort of story should unfold thats not about beast issues and centered around Cat? For this case I can just imagine going back to procedural. Cat solving cases and maybe Vincent just sweeps in from time to time. But please not more than 5 minutes screen time per episode - because otherwise the episode would be centered around Vincent! Despite being also a KK Fan what a BORING show this would be! What I've got from your posts: you're a KK Fan. I would like to know: when did your enthusiasm for KK begun? Was it Smallville? If so - did you complained there too about the Clark centered episodes? I'm looking forward to a season 3 with VinCat solving cases together, supported by JTnT, overcoming obstacles that were thrown in their way. Also I would like to see more backstory to Cat AND Vincent, as they are linked to one another through Vanessa. And maybe a bigger conspiracy story in the back for the whole season. The direction of the last few episodes of S2 is exactly what I hope to see in S3 plus more romantic VinCat moments. The Story of Beauty and the Beast is a Love Story at first! So it has to be also about their relationship! And a relationship requires both of them! Smallville wasn't named after Lana. Back then our probs were how Chloe got more storyline than Lana who was supposed to be the female lead. But yeah,we went through 8 years of SV, we Don need another role of hers that ended up the same,as in playing a supporter and love interest for the big man.Specially not on another cw show that nowhere near as big as SV. You know how the entire season two from start till the finale focused on Vincent changes,mission, him going beastly,his redemption, his capture,bla bla bla. Well,now I'm gonna ask for another season where the MAIN SUSPECT OF THE SEASON ARC is Cat for once.Just like what Vincent got in second season.Balance! 15 episodes centered on the Beast should be follow by another 15 episodes for the Beauty! There are so many stories they can write for Cat without revolve solely on beast issues, if the writers are clever and want to be fair with their leads. Why is it in order for the show to work they have to focus on Beast issue only? Shouldn't the Beauty allowed to have Issues that they need to focus on as well? Why the sexism? But we all know that's impossible since the stow is still run by the biggest jay/Vincent fanboy there is.So we know we're fighting a losing battle. Therefore here we are. What I get from interviews of KK is that she likes the role, the cast/crew and stories. So it seems what you need isn't what she wants! To whom you are referring by biggest Jay/Vincent fanboy. Please name your source. In my opinion the show is balanced between both leads. I don't have the feeling one is dominating the other. As I said Beauty and the Beast is a Love Story that requires both!
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Post by corinne on Dec 8, 2014 16:52:02 GMT -5
Jay is a fabulous actor. He's explosing on the screen and they are so perfect together....I think the show is perfectly balanced too. I would certainly not have loved it that much if it had been different actors...
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Post by dan on Dec 8, 2014 17:43:51 GMT -5
Oh pls you wouldn't find a recent quote of Kristin saying "omg my character is so compeling, perfectly written, such a strong and independent woman " because she's as in Cat ,not what you call a complex role. Always needing aman and have all her storyline revolving solely on her man. KK even agreed to a fan question on twitter saying how her character wasn't given the right materials and wanted more backstory of Cat.
If the show was balance, you wouldn't find ccriticism of how Cat wasn't written independent enough written by some bloggers and we KK fans certainly wouldn't be whining abt lack of storyline she got.
And pls if some people said they like both leads,I find it weird that they only want characters to explore Beast issues,not Cat issues.Some even said it'd be boring if the show focus on her issues. Many people said they love both equally but from time to time I've seen only give praises to Jay acting but somehow skip Kk,what she's less talented than him or something?
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Post by Reyna on Dec 8, 2014 18:08:21 GMT -5
Oh pls you wouldn't find a recent quote of Kristin saying "omg my character is so compeling, perfectly written, such a strong and independent woman " because she's as in Cat ,not what you call a complex role. Always needing aman and have all her storyline revolving solely on her man. KK even agreed to a fan question on twitter saying how her character wasn't given the right materials and wanted more backstory of Cat. If the show was balance, you wouldn't find ccriticism of how Cat wasn't written independent enough written by some bloggers and we KK fans certainly wouldn't be whining abt lack of storyline she got. And pls if some people said they like both leads,I find it weird that they only want characters to explore Beast issues,not Cat issues.Some even said it'd be boring if the show focus on her issues. Many people said they love both equally but from time to time I've seen only give praises to Jay acting but somehow skip Kk,what she's less talented than him or something? As requested numerous times, where is your proof to back up your claims!
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