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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 3:38:00 GMT -5
I'm guessing Tori's blood is integral to the story. Otherwise why spend so many episodes on her? Remember Gabe's role in the experiments involved harvesting blood, tissue, etc. Perhaps Tori's father somehow exchanged her genetic material for his own powers. He did not seem like an upstanding guy, it seemed that he would be likely to use what means to get what he wanted.... The theory that her blood could be used to help make stronger beasts is appealing. Perhaps the experiments became more advanced since Gabe's time. Maybe they thought to try a genetic matching components to determine if that has a stronger effect.
I also think Tori is pretty dumb and makes pretty senseless decisions. I dont't think her beasts powers help her that much either. She becomes physically strong, but I think that is the only thing it does. She lacks the ability to harness it similar to when Gabe became beastly. She also I dont think wants to be a beast. I think she wants to just go back to a normal life. I;m just not sure its a possibility.
I don't really think I want Tori to die. That's really hard to say that. I honestly would love to see a she beast stay on just to prove that Vincent would choose Catherine even if there was another more practical solution. That being said, they would have to change Tori;s character as her selfish spoiled brat is annoying esp because she seems to lack good intentions. Heather was also a little spoiled, selfish and bratty but she had pure innocent and good intentions. The dumb things she did was because of love or naivety I dont think that is the same with Tori. She seems to relish in causing chaos. They need to make her more likable if they keep her on. That being said, I think its possible that they will kill her which will be a shame for 2 reasons; 1. waste of screen time and 2. most importantly Catherine would seem to be a second choice again. Maybe they can bring back Alex and force him to choose between Alex & Tori (just kidding that would probably muddy everything up more).
I think Tori will be linked to saving JTs life and she will die because she does something stupid.
I do think she wants to be a beast. When she first found out about it, she got scared and tried to kill it, but as soon as Vincent showed that he would leave Cat behind - as he did - to be with her and amplified her power, she became "beast hungry". There's nothing more she wants than enjoy her power and live by her own rules. I'm already resigned to have Cat as Vincent's no choice again. Because you make a person second choice when you choose this person at some moment, right? Since he'll just go back to Cat again because his better option is not an option anymore, it makes her a no choice. Really an epic love!
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Post by solveig on Jan 30, 2014 4:41:38 GMT -5
I don't. Care to explain? o Ancient Greek concept when somebody does something bad he has committed a sin against the gods called hybris and will be punished so that the order is restored called nemesis. This is putting it very simply not the best explanation of the term. now iI am not sure if tori has committed hybris yet but I think she will in the next episode She's the Queen of Hybris!!
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Post by raniamahd on Jan 30, 2014 5:05:22 GMT -5
I do think she wants to be a beast. When she first found out about it, she got scared and tried to kill it, but as soon as Vincent showed that he would leave Cat behind - as he did - to be with her and amplified her power, she became "beast hungry". There's nothing more she wants than enjoy her power and live by her own rules. I'm already resigned to have Cat as Vincent's no choice again. Because you make a person second choice when you choose this person at some moment, right? Since he'll just go back to Cat again because his better option is not an option anymore, it makes her a no choice. Really an epic love! don't worry my dear , they may get Cat rejected by Gabe , so she will go back to V as her second choice , so they can call it even ! until of course they both find better options , we can say they could be each other spare ! yes how is that for an epic love ?!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 5, 2014 19:05:45 GMT -5
I have officially changed my stance. Should the writers have time for it, I believe Tori will return pregnant with V.'s beast-baby, her death having been faked…. V. will leave Catherine because he really does prefer redheads (if she doesn't dye her hair first) - the end. The beast and the red-headed she-beast and their beast baby live happily ever after. (gag me)
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Feb 5, 2014 19:27:22 GMT -5
I have officially changed my stance. Should the writers have time for it, I believe Tori will return pregnant with V.'s beast-baby, her death having been faked…. V. will leave Catherine because he really does prefer redheads (if she doesn't dye her hair first) - the end. The beast and the red-headed she-beast and their beast baby live happily ever after. (gag me) Season 3 story board. No, I think that the vial that JT made contained Tori's blood and mixed with the new formula beast cocktail that was given to Vincent. Someone will kidnap Cat and inject Catherine with it at the end of this season. Then if there is a 3rd Season of BATB, there will be a 3 month time lapse and Cat will come back as a Redhead and a She Beast. Vincent gets the best of all worlds. Is my bitterness showing................
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 10:35:16 GMT -5
Did Tori really die? Where's the body? Vincent spent what, 2 months with her? Now, she'll be buried and he won't even see it? If she's not six feet under, the writers can always pull her out of their hats (I really thought other word) at any minute. Beast-babies on their way, I'm sure of it.
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Post by raniamahd on Feb 7, 2014 11:37:26 GMT -5
why a lot of you are worried that bad about Tori coming back ? you know i am not an optimistic person and have no trust at all in the show makers , but still i thing Tori's page is closed for ever ! think about it : we knew she is not there till e16 , and as for the rest six episodes if this is the final season ? so she has no place in them and if we get s3 , well i still think they wouldn't use her again because she now like a burned card (if you use this expression like us) she failed to serve her purpose , her only purpose was to be a plot device to attract new viewers , but she failed big time ?! people hated her , if there were 100 viewers liked her , there were 100,000 hated her ? no new viewers came and even worse some of the old left ! so why use an old failed plot device when you always can come with a fresh new one !!
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Post by eyeofthetiger on Feb 7, 2014 13:35:23 GMT -5
I think there is the potential to bring her back if the writers choose, because we never actually witnessed her death being confirmed. All we got was an ambulance scene and a couple of characters saying that she was beyond help. Oh Vincent checked her pulse very poorly. I mean seriously that had to be the weakest pronouncement of a character's death. It appeared that Gabe was dead too, but clearly that was not the case. All I am saying is that if the writers choose to bring her back it is possible. I just hope as I said before that there is no VT baby... that would just destroy the show and infuriate the fandom. I also don't think it helps to propel any plotline.
IMO I think that if they choose to bring her back, I hope that they give her more of a character. I just rewatched 212 and I found that I actually didn't hate her character and found that I did feel bad for her. Plus now that she has realized that Catherine and Vincent belong together maybe if she did come back she could be a better part of the team. In my imagination, perhaps there is a place for her to work behind the scenes to help bring the baddies from wherever she is being held. That being said, I do not think it is necessary to bring her back... Like raniamahd said perhaps they should try a fresh start.
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Post by raniamahd on Feb 7, 2014 15:06:36 GMT -5
there is the potential to bring her back if the writers choose,
exactly ! if the writers choose ! and thats my point why they would choose to bring her back when she failed in the first time ? why ? while they can come with a new plot device if they want ?! it just doesn't make sense to choose to bring her again IMO for the reasons i wrote in my last post
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 7, 2014 20:44:26 GMT -5
Hahaha! I have a new answer for this. BADLY!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 21:58:10 GMT -5
Hahaha! I have a new answer for this. BADLY!!! I want to know what answer is that.
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Post by raniamahd on Feb 8, 2014 7:09:44 GMT -5
i can't believe what i am going to say now ?!! but seriously folks why are we still talking about T ?!!! it sound like not only the show makers gave her a much much bigger size than hers , but now we do the same ?!! as she didn't upset us enough when she was on screen , she still upset us more when she is off ?! i know they betrayed us in many ways we could never imagine and we have every right to have paranoia ! but at lest we know they can't /wouldn't use Tori's card again this season , so only if we get s3 we can start to worry so for now lets stop torture ourselves with this useless , unimportant character she is dead . end of the story , close her page , close this poll , at lest for now and lets move on to more delightful things to talk about or if it is necessary to talk about unpleasant and annoying character , lets talk about a current one not ex one ? what about Gabe ? i say lets open a thread to talk about how/when/if we can get rid of him ?!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 14:23:18 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that, as disappointed as the fandom might be with the show, the hope for S3 is still alive in us. That's why we're still worried about Tori. The writers broke the trust the fandom had on them. A big part of it don't believe that they'll be as faithful to us as we have been to them. So, everyone is waiting for the blow. If he get S3, who can be sure they won't bring her back to destroy Vincent and Catherine's relationship again and, in the process, destroy the show? A few years back, there was a show with a faithful fandom, too. The main couple was more than endearing and it was also a story of impossible love between a female human and a male non human. Out of nowhere, a female non human appeared and you can guess what happened. The female non human got pregnant and that destroyed the show. It lasted only one more season, but the damage was so severe that they simply cut the story in the middle and ended the show. In a fandom as small as BatB's, Tori returning pregnant would probably make the show end in mid season. That's why this window for Tori's return is so worrisome.
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Post by raniamahd on Feb 8, 2014 15:23:52 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that, as disappointed as the fandom might be with the show, the hope for S3 is still alive in us. That's why we're still worried about Tori. The writers broke the trust the fandom had on them. A big part of it don't believe that they'll be as faithful to us as we have been to them. So, everyone is waiting for the blow. If he get S3, who can be sure they won't bring her back to destroy Vincent and Catherine's relationship again and, in the process, destroy the show? A few years back, there was a show with a faithful fandom, too. The main couple was more than endearing and it was also a story of impossible love between a female human and a male non human. Out of nowhere, a female non human appeared and you can guess what happened. The female non human got pregnant and that destroyed the show. It lasted only one more season, but the damage was so severe that they simply cut the story in the middle and ended the show. In a fandom as small as BatB's, Tori returning pregnant would probably make the show end in mid season. That's why this window for Tori's return is so worrisome. believe me i understand and share the same fear and feeling , i still have the bitter taste of betrayal in my mouth you know i just feel we have much annoying , worried things in the show now , like Gabe and the possibility to have vincat reunion in the last minutes of e15 , meaning for only 1 episode after we went throw hell ( not to mention Cat jumping from bed to another in no time therefor , i just think we better drop Tori thing at lest for now , because we have more than enough to worry about and to upset us ! and if we have s3 , then so many things have to be said to the show makers before it start by the way , which show are you talking about ?!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 8, 2014 15:29:31 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that, as disappointed as the fandom might be with the show, the hope for S3 is still alive in us. That's why we're still worried about Tori. The writers broke the trust the fandom had on them. A big part of it don't believe that they'll be as faithful to us as we have been to them. So, everyone is waiting for the blow. If he get S3, who can be sure they won't bring her back to destroy Vincent and Catherine's relationship again and, in the process, destroy the show? A few years back, there was a show with a faithful fandom, too. The main couple was more than endearing and it was also a story of impossible love between a female human and a male non human. Out of nowhere, a female non human appeared and you can guess what happened. The female non human got pregnant and that destroyed the show. It lasted only one more season, but the damage was so severe that they simply cut the story in the middle and ended the show. In a fandom as small as BatB's, Tori returning pregnant would probably make the show end in mid season. That's why this window for Tori's return is so worrisome. I'm just curious, but are you talking about Roswell? It was more than a few years ago but the story you describe sounds just like it… I remember talking about this concept, similar to Roswell complete with pregnancy and compared it to where I thought things were headed with Tori on BATB. Everyone was horrified, in the beginning, but look where we are now? I feel like our chances for a S3 are pretty limited right now, but I think Tori is going to be a problem if there is a season 3. And I do feel like there is going to be a pregnant Tori, I feel so strongly about this that I am tempted to launch a twitter campaign against it to the writers, because if we break the story 6-10 episodes before it happens and protest, maybe we can nip that idea in the bud. Anyway, I see no reason for the Vin/Tori sex if not to produce a beast baby. Any such child could be a problem throughout the remainder of the series to protect, and an ongoing source of conflict. I don't think Tori's character would be a conflict for a long time because they see how much most of us dislike her. I actually think they cut her story short because of her unpopularity. Anyway, she was unpopular when she was just a concept… I don't know why they actually went there… As for what I was getting at, this little thread keeps popping up as active on my news feed, and each time I see the words "How do you think Tori's story will end," I think to myself "BADLY." So there was nothing more to tell. It was more like a little joke about how I feel about Tori's character arc. It was destined to end badly if you ask me.
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