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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 15, 2014 13:05:53 GMT -5
Sorry, English isn't my first language. I don't understand what you want to say with that. I'm saying that it was never really about Gabe or Tori or ANYONE else, for that matter, everything they have done in S2, particularly when it comes to the love triangling has just been an obstacle to keep VinCat apart. It was never about Tori or Gabe or Patrick or anyone else that anyone swapped spit with. A plot device, ultimately is just a means to an end. It doesn't really matter when Gabe and Catherine break up, or how, or what, they were only ever a distraction anyway, and nobody will ever convince me that anything else was true there… the same thing with Tori. MY problem, ultimately, is that I don't take any of this love triangle crap seriously. All it will ever be to me is a distraction, and not even a very good one, I'm sorry to say. A week ago, or so, I compared Gabe to a mosquito trapped between two titans. This is all he will ever be folks. The same is true for Tori, particularly given that they cut any and all explanation of her relationship with Vincent. It is like she was just a fly buzzing around, and now she's gone. I mean, I don't know, for someone to be important, they have to SHOW the importance of the relationship, not edit it out! And, I don't know, Gabe and Catherine are going to be together for what 2 seconds?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 13:07:53 GMT -5
I have been secretly hoping that she can't go through with it...but the way this season has been going, and given the enormous quantities of humble pie that I have has to ingest, I feel that hoping for this scenario will only lead to more pie in my face...but I'm still not so secretly hoping. LOL!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 15, 2014 13:14:29 GMT -5
I have been secretly hoping that she can't go through with it...but the way this season has been going, and given the enormous quantities of humble pie that I have has to ingest, I feel that hoping for this scenario will only lead to more pie in my face...but I'm still not so secretly hoping. LOL! Well the fact that they spent so much time, presumably in that scene, with her and Gabe filming, I have my doubts. But you are right, we have been given a healthy (or unhealthy depending on viewpoint) dose of humble pie almost on a weekly basis lately… I think if they spent a while filming a scene in his apt. or bed and this is close to her reunion with V., well I presume there to be possible trouble in paradise. But it would be nice if one of them has a moral compass and can't go through with it. Theoretically, in my mind, break or no break, when you meet the one, you really should not be sleeping with anyone else afterwards. But anyway, obviously I don't understand some of the very important rules about relationships, so-called epic love, and network TV. I don't even think we should be having this conversation right now, so there you have it. ETA: I also thought, at one point, that the creative team was out to settle the score, an eye for an eye. Vincent did it, there fore, Catherine does it. But I'm not sure now. The ending of 2x13, and our V-day Gabe-Cat romance, seemed to set the stage for the horizontal mambo-ing, but, we will see…
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 15, 2014 13:14:40 GMT -5
is the gabe & cat in bed confirmed spoiler? I thought it was just cat in bed w/a guy but we couldnt see his face? If we only saw the back it could be V or it could be a nightmare? I cant see how the writers can have Cat literally jumping out of bed a the beginning of 1 episode and then returning to V in the next episode unless there is a time jump in ep 15 & 16 that explains how she can justify her sudden change of heart? Gaberine kissing is one thing, anything more Cat is gonna need some time to process what she did. Plz dont throw tomatoes , I know as does the majority of Beasties know that she never really stopped loving V. Although, she did need to go through the process of moving on, just as Vincent has to go through the process of letting go. But as an adult, I do know that it takes longer than a week to process repercussions of Gaberine, Vincent returning back to a good guy, accepting the apologies for the damage that both V & C caused on their relationship, as well as accepting their role in their own redemptions. I want Vincat back together, I just want it too feel authentic and romantic not just an afterthought of the writers. no, not a confirmed spoiler
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 13:16:27 GMT -5
I really like the idea of a nightmare that leads to rejection. That would be a redemption of Catherine's character. Not sure the writers would give that to us, but Catherine realizing that she is better off alone (since she isn't totally aware of Vincent's feelings) and not dependent upon a man for her self-worth. I want two WHOLE people coming together when we get VinCat back.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 15, 2014 13:16:36 GMT -5
I have been secretly hoping that she can't go through with it...but the way this season has been going, and given the enormous quantities of humble pie that I have has to ingest, I feel that hoping for this scenario will only lead to more pie in my face...but I'm still not so secretly hoping. LOL! Well the fact that they spent so much time, presumably in that scene, with her and Gabe filming, I have my doubts. But you are right, we have been given a healthy (or unhealthy depending on viewpoint) dose of humble pie almost on a weekly basis lately… I think if they spent a while filming a scene in his apt. or bed and this is close to her reunion with V., well I presume there to be possible trouble in paradise. But it would be nice if one of them has a moral compass and can't go through with it. Theoretically, in my mind, break or no break, when you meet the one, you really should not be sleeping with anyone else afterwards. But anyway, obviously I don't understand some of the very important rules about relationships, so-called epic love, and network TV. I don't even think we should be having this conversation right now, so there you have it. true, but they are in denial
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 15, 2014 13:22:17 GMT -5
Well the fact that they spent so much time, presumably in that scene, with her and Gabe filming, I have my doubts. But you are right, we have been given a healthy (or unhealthy depending on viewpoint) dose of humble pie almost on a weekly basis lately… I think if they spent a while filming a scene in his apt. or bed and this is close to her reunion with V., well I presume there to be possible trouble in paradise. But it would be nice if one of them has a moral compass and can't go through with it. Theoretically, in my mind, break or no break, when you meet the one, you really should not be sleeping with anyone else afterwards. But anyway, obviously I don't understand some of the very important rules about relationships, so-called epic love, and network TV. I don't even think we should be having this conversation right now, so there you have it. true, but they are in denial LOL. All I will ever see is CW-branded justification for bad behavior and another boring love triangle. Big picture, we are just postponing the main event. Because nobody has any idea what to do once we get them together again. It is the end of S1 all over again What else were we trying to accomplish with S2? Oh wait, V. loses himself to his beast side and everyone does some important character exploration on their own… Did anyone see that? I think I saw V. do a little character exploration in 2x13, but besides that it is just a never ending love triangle fest from 2x07-2x15. CW-TV at it's finest. Sorry, guess I woke up snarky today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 13:28:58 GMT -5
I'm going with Yolie too and assuming that the Cat/Gabe bedroom scene is at the beginning (God help us all grt through that disaster)....followed by her going to speak to Vincent and finding him shirtless....well, if she didn't have doubts before (which we know she does), this would be a game changer:she has just seen them both shirtless within a short period of time-of course you have to compare-and there is NO contest. Vincent wins this one hands down. So sorry, Gaby boy! And this sets up the whole hospital visit etc.... I know nobody is talking about this, but maybe sleeping with Gabe is not exactly a toe curling experience for Catherine? It is kind of strange that they keep talking about that. Either someone thinks they are being cute, or there is a reason they keep bringing it up!! Maybe she rejects Gabe's banana? Maybe it is awkward, or maybe she can't go through with it? I mean as much as we don't like talking about it, we think Catherine and Sendhil spent almost a whole day filming something in his apt., right? Either it is a break-up scene or an awkward waking up together scene, or… I don't know… hard to picture it being something whirlwind romantic and then she is going to drop him like a hot potato for V. within an episode… Honestly, I think that GabeRine having unsatisfying sex will make VinCat's love even more cheap (if that's possible). If you consider ToriCent, it's really a proof that Vincent's love for Cat is strong that Tori couldn't hold Vincent by her side as soon as Catherine got in the picture again. According to Tori (and what was shown in the turkey trauma), bestial sex was explosive. Yet, it wasn't enough to make Vincent commit to her. So, Cat reconsidering Vincent just because Gabe couldn't take her to the stars is so shallow that makes me want to . If she'll be back to Vincent, I want it to be because she loves him, not because he can make her have an orgasm. A modern device selled on Internet can do this trick, she doesn't even need a man for it.
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 15, 2014 13:38:37 GMT -5
I know nobody is talking about this, but maybe sleeping with Gabe is not exactly a toe curling experience for Catherine? It is kind of strange that they keep talking about that. Either someone thinks they are being cute, or there is a reason they keep bringing it up!! Maybe she rejects Gabe's banana? Maybe it is awkward, or maybe she can't go through with it? I mean as much as we don't like talking about it, we think Catherine and Sendhil spent almost a whole day filming something in his apt., right? Either it is a break-up scene or an awkward waking up together scene, or… I don't know… hard to picture it being something whirlwind romantic and then she is going to drop him like a hot potato for V. within an episode… Honestly, I think that GabeRine having unsatisfying sex will make VinCat's love even more cheap (if that's possible). If you consider ToriCent, it's really a proof that Vincent's love for Cat is strong that Tori couldn't hold Vincent by her side as soon as Catherine got in the picture again. According to Tori (and what was shown in the turkey trauma), bestial sex was explosive. Yet, it wasn't enough to make Vincent commit to her. So, Cat reconsidering Vincent just because Gabe couldn't take her to the stars is so shallow that makes me want to . If she'll be back to Vincent, I want it to be because she loves him, not because he can make her have an orgasm. A modern device selled on Internet can do this trick, she doesn't even need a man for it. Well we don't know anything about Vin/Tori sex, now do we? This is all assumption based on some proposed "primal connection" which we never even saw onscreen after the turkey trauma. Anyway, Vin/Tori sex makes me want to vomit too, so let's not talk about it. We know nothing besides the fact that they did it, and he snuck out of bed with her to call Catherine. And then later he said that he wanted them to take a break - or whatever. None of this is proof of his love for Catherine to me. And if, indeed he left Tori for Catherine, despite whatever beast connection they had, it is really no different (for me) than Catherine leaving Gabe for Vincent. I mean in the end, it is bad melodrama, and it gives me whiplash. I have nothing nice to say about any of it. As for Gabe and Catherine, you are right, but I can't help but wonder why we have all this talk of toe curling and then a suspected long scene of them filming at the beginning of 2x14… and a shot of their doubles, supposedly in bed together. I don't think we are going to have a Cat/Gabe love scene to watch (for obvious reasons) so what is going to go on there? That is all I'm really speculating about. Maybe it is really awkward? But you are right, that is not further proof of her love for Vincent. None of this love triangling is further proof of anyone's love for anyone, IMO, it is just a distraction from the main event. Forest of the trees, remember? A plot device is a plot device. I can't say I'm finding any deeper meaning in any of this crap-ola, sorry.
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Post by MyBatB on Feb 15, 2014 13:41:49 GMT -5
I know nobody is talking about this, but maybe sleeping with Gabe is not exactly a toe curling experience for Catherine? It is kind of strange that they keep talking about that. Either someone thinks they are being cute, or there is a reason they keep bringing it up!! Maybe she rejects Gabe's banana? Maybe it is awkward, or maybe she can't go through with it? I mean as much as we don't like talking about it, we think Catherine and Sendhil spent almost a whole day filming something in his apt., right? Either it is a break-up scene or an awkward waking up together scene, or… I don't know… hard to picture it being something whirlwind romantic and then she is going to drop him like a hot potato for V. within an episode… Honestly, I think that GabeRine having unsatisfying sex will make VinCat's love even more cheap (if that's possible). If you consider ToriCent, it's really a proof that Vincent's love for Cat is strong that Tori couldn't hold Vincent by her side as soon as Catherine got in the picture again. According to Tori (and what was shown in the turkey trauma), bestial sex was explosive. Yet, it wasn't enough to make Vincent commit to her. So, Cat reconsidering Vincent just because Gabe couldn't take her to the stars is so shallow that makes me want to . If she'll be back to Vincent, I want it to be because she loves him, not because he can make her have an orgasm. A modern device selled on Internet can do this trick, she doesn't even need a man for it. Spinningoutspydancer and Vanillasky, thank you, you've just answered the question in my post (previous page) because I was wondering about the same thing too......I thought it was weird that this comes to mind...
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Feb 15, 2014 13:55:11 GMT -5
Well we don't know anything about Vin/Tori sex, now do we? This is all assumption based on some proposed "primal connection" which we never even saw onscreen after the turkey trauma. Anyway, Vin/Tori sex makes me want to vomit too, so let's not talk about it. We know nothing besides the fact that they did it, and he snuck out of bed with her to call Catherine. And then later he said that he wanted them to take a break - or whatever. None of this is proof of his love for Catherine to me. And if, indeed he left Tori for Catherine, despite whatever beast connection they had, it is really no different (for me) than Catherine leaving Gabe for Vincent. I mean in the end, it is bad melodrama, and it gives me whiplash. I have nothing nice to say about any of it. As for Gabe and Catherine, you are right, but I can't help but wonder why we have all this talk of toe curling and then a suspected long scene of them filming at the beginning of 2x14… and a shot of their doubles, supposedly in bed together. I don't think we are going to have a Cat/Gabe love scene to watch (for obvious reasons) so what is going to go on there? That is all I'm really speculating about. Maybe it is really awkward? But you are right, that is not further proof of her love for Vincent. None of this love triangling is further proof of anyone's love for anyone, IMO, it is just a distraction from the main event. Forest of the trees, remember? A plot device is a plot device. I can't say I'm finding any deeper meaning in any of this crap-ola, sorry. Well, I agree, it wouldn't surprise me if we have some Bookend implied sex with Gabe/Cat based on the BTS bedroom shot set up. And we know that Kristin and Sendhil had filming in his apt..........it makes sense because Gabe is presumed dead so he would have to stay at his apt. and not go out. Cat and Gabe have to "plan" his funeral or some arrangements have to be laid out for the Fab 4 to convince Sam that Gabe is really gone. At least we would know that the time frame for all this is only a couple of days, because the funeral arrangements would have to be right after the Vow renewal/explosion! Maybe, the BTS bedroom shot shows Cat getting out of bed to sneak a phone call to Vincent? Then we see Gabe in HIS ROBE ( of course, his would be silky satin and not terry cloth like Vincent's...lol) listening to Cat talk with Vincent. See.......parallels to the Tori/Vincent scene. Gabe realizes like Tori that Cat and Vincent can't stay away from each other......Viola.......Gabe lets Cat go! See, so easy, neat as a bow!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 15, 2014 14:15:39 GMT -5
Well we don't know anything about Vin/Tori sex, now do we? This is all assumption based on some proposed "primal connection" which we never even saw onscreen after the turkey trauma. Anyway, Vin/Tori sex makes me want to vomit too, so let's not talk about it. We know nothing besides the fact that they did it, and he snuck out of bed with her to call Catherine. And then later he said that he wanted them to take a break - or whatever. None of this is proof of his love for Catherine to me. And if, indeed he left Tori for Catherine, despite whatever beast connection they had, it is really no different (for me) than Catherine leaving Gabe for Vincent. I mean in the end, it is bad melodrama, and it gives me whiplash. I have nothing nice to say about any of it. As for Gabe and Catherine, you are right, but I can't help but wonder why we have all this talk of toe curling and then a suspected long scene of them filming at the beginning of 2x14… and a shot of their doubles, supposedly in bed together. I don't think we are going to have a Cat/Gabe love scene to watch (for obvious reasons) so what is going to go on there? That is all I'm really speculating about. Maybe it is really awkward? But you are right, that is not further proof of her love for Vincent. None of this love triangling is further proof of anyone's love for anyone, IMO, it is just a distraction from the main event. Forest of the trees, remember? A plot device is a plot device. I can't say I'm finding any deeper meaning in any of this crap-ola, sorry. Well, I agree, it wouldn't surprise me if we have some Bookend implied sex with Gabe/Cat based on the BTS bedroom shot set up. And we know that Kristin and Sendhil had filming in his apt..........it makes sense because Gabe is presumed dead so he would have to stay at his apt. and not go out. Cat and Gabe have to "plan" his funeral or some arrangements have to be laid out for the Fab 4 to convince Sam that Gabe is really gone. At least we would know that the time frame for all this is only a couple of days, because the funeral arrangements would have to be right after the Vow renewal/explosion! Maybe, the BTS bedroom shot shows Cat getting out of bed to sneak a phone call to Vincent? Then we see Gabe in HIS ROBE ( of course, his would be silky satin and not terry cloth like Vincent's...lol) listening to Cat talk with Vincent. See.......parallels to the Tori/Vincent scene. Gabe realizes like Tori that Cat and Vincent can't stay away from each other......Viola.......Gabe lets Cat go! See, so easy, neat as a bow! Well, and I know it hasn't happened, yet, but what would the point really be? Other than to settle the score, that is? I guess that is just my current problem with S2 and all these pointless love triangles, they seem to serve the purpose of either making someone jealous, pregnant (this is what I think Tori's true purpose was, although we probably will never know if this is true or not), or to settle the score, bookending Vincent's roll in the hay with Tori. Or is Gabe there to prove to Catherine that if redemption is possible for him, then the same is true for Vincent? Still why do they need to sleep together to figure that out? This is not the Vampire Diaries and is not a teenage soap opera. But it sure as heck feels like one!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 14:27:57 GMT -5
Well we don't know anything about Vin/Tori sex, now do we? This is all assumption based on some proposed "primal connection" which we never even saw onscreen after the turkey trauma. Anyway, Vin/Tori sex makes me want to vomit too, so let's not talk about it. We know nothing besides the fact that they did it, and he snuck out of bed with her to call Catherine. And then later he said that he wanted them to take a break - or whatever. None of this is proof of his love for Catherine to me. And if, indeed he left Tori for Catherine, despite whatever beast connection they had, it is really no different (for me) than Catherine leaving Gabe for Vincent. I mean in the end, it is bad melodrama, and it gives me whiplash. I have nothing nice to say about any of it. As for Gabe and Catherine, you are right, but I can't help but wonder why we have all this talk of toe curling and then a suspected long scene of them filming at the beginning of 2x14… and a shot of their doubles, supposedly in bed together. I don't think we are going to have a Cat/Gabe love scene to watch (for obvious reasons) so what is going to go on there? That is all I'm really speculating about. Maybe it is really awkward? But you are right, that is not further proof of her love for Vincent. None of this love triangling is further proof of anyone's love for anyone, IMO, it is just a distraction from the main event. Forest of the trees, remember? A plot device is a plot device. I can't say I'm finding any deeper meaning in any of this crap-ola, sorry. Well, I agree, it wouldn't surprise me if we have some Bookend implied sex with Gabe/Cat based on the BTS bedroom shot set up. And we know that Kristin and Sendhil had filming in his apt..........it makes sense because Gabe is presumed dead so he would have to stay at his apt. and not go out. Cat and Gabe have to "plan" his funeral or some arrangements have to be laid out for the Fab 4 to convince Sam that Gabe is really gone. At least we would know that the time frame for all this is only a couple of days, because the funeral arrangements would have to be right after the Vow renewal/explosion! Maybe, the BTS bedroom shot shows Cat getting out of bed to sneak a phone call to Vincent? Then we see Gabe in HIS ROBE ( of course, his would be silky satin and not terry cloth like Vincent's...lol) listening to Cat talk with Vincent. See.......parallels to the Tori/Vincent scene. Gabe realizes like Tori that Cat and Vincent can't stay away from each other......Viola.......Gabe lets Cat go! See, so easy, neat as a bow! I have no doubt that GabeRine sex will be implied. I really don't want to see a recreation of "the bathrobe scene" because all this repetitive scenes are tiresome and screams lack of creativity, but I don't put it past the writers. It's just that is so poor that makes me want to . But what I'm saying is that Cat not being satisfied with Gabe in bed is beyond ridiculous. So, the man you're currently having a relationship doesn't correspond your expectations and that's the reason for you to considerate going back to the one that does? Very romantic, really. It's almost tear-worthy. Not! I don't need to see Cat having a bright smile on her face while she giggles with Tess about Gabe's atributions (please, God, spare me of it), but I also don't need her with an awkward attitude towards him in the morning. What I need is seeing Catherine choosing to be with Vincent despite being bed-satisfied with Gabe. Yes, SpydancerLovesVincat is right, we don't know the extention of ToriCent sex, but I think it's naivety to assume that it wasn't a bodily satisfying experience. I think the scripts proved that it wasn't a soul satisfying experience (not only for Vincent, but for Tori, too, only she was not smart enough to understand it). And, yes, it doesn't prove his love for Catherine, but proves that "the primal connection" they shared wasn't that interesting to make him stay by her side. Therefore, eventually he would get rid of her, Catherine or not. But, IMO, Catherine getting closer to Vincent was a decisive factor to fast-forward his realization that being by Tori's side wasn't what he wanted and that he got trapped in a situation by default and not really by will. And I want Cat going back to Vincent by will, not external factors.
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Feb 15, 2014 16:50:54 GMT -5
I love how Jay agrees with your comment & thinks we are extremely humourous!!! Feel like i miss something here... what do u mean by Jay agreeing with the comments...? We had been posting about socmom being in Target. When I read zena's post & ROFL, I looked at her Avi & there was Jay, laughing his head off! Of course my little Beastiemind took it as Jay agreeing that our comments were hilarious!! I sometimes hate it how zena changes her avi & signature, because that special Jay moment is now gone! As is that beautiful one of Vincent's back that I love!!
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Feb 15, 2014 17:11:10 GMT -5
I get weird ideas if Cat /Gabe make love ( these 4 words definitely don't get along well .).. and in the same day Cat dumps him, realizing that she loves Vincent ? I don't know how to put that.....the first thought which came to my mind is : is she going to think that Gabe doesn't stand comparison to Vincent in bed ? Look at what this show does to my brain.... I mean, seriously, what could be the reason she enters into a relationship the same day she ends it ? As I see it: There is a very big difference in "making love" & "having sex"! If Catherine & Gabe have sex, that's all it is. She's trying to talk herself into moving on. She will very quickly realize that the feelings she has for Gabe will never, ever be like what she had with Vincent. Catherine & Vincent make love, because they truly love each other. I think her turning point will be when she sees him shirtless. Not just because he is incredibly HOT but when she sees his scars! That's when it hits her what they have done to each other!! If she doesn't start crying & blubbering, I sure as hell will be!!!
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