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Post by ragulr25 on Dec 20, 2013 20:56:46 GMT -5
^ Yes, I read all those anapi -season3baby :). Those changes in Vincent that C. Ashton mentioned kept me thinking... Has anyone thought that Vincent's beast might change (not disappear) because of him almost dying on ep 9? Gabe lost his beast because he literally died and came back from death and we were getting sick with all the "flatlining" storyline for all 8 episodes so... what if Vincent flatlining also has some effect in his beast side? Since they are both different beast generation the consequence won't be the disappearance of Vincent's beast (also wouldn't make sense the title of show hehe) but some changes might happen in him... actually i think the possibility of beast dying is highly unlikely but beasts evolving higly likely. there r certain animals which adjust according to the environment and i m thinking beast will evolve i think in promo we saw "vincent keller is dead"said by vin this puts me under one assumption human side of the vin is dying and beast is taking over him as austin said . and as per one batb writer she said something about "beasts r resilient" and thank god they stopped the flatlining part it was getting ridiculous.
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Post by raniamahd on Dec 20, 2013 23:10:06 GMT -5
The most thing i am afraid of that if vincat become enemies ?! i know their relation ended in a very painful way for both of them so i am not expect them to say our relation is end but let us be friends and keep in touch ! but at least they can be civil to each other for the sake of the love and memories they shared together so if they become enemies or even just act like enemies i will not see this as funny episodes like mr. Kern describe it , but i will simply find this as a heart broken
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 5:57:19 GMT -5
Catherine Ashton @designingashton 4m Tomorrow night is the #BATB Christmas party and I can't wait. I will live tweet to U from there #FeastieFridays #BATB @designingashton oo will you guys dress up? Reply Retweet Favorite More Expand Catherine Ashton @designingashton 2m @krissywhitehea1 Yes .... I hope we get lots of cast pics, especially of Jay and Kristin. I miss them!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Dec 21, 2013 6:01:05 GMT -5
Catherine Ashton @designingashton 4m Tomorrow night is the #BATB Christmas party and I can't wait. I will live tweet to U from there #FeastieFridays #BATB @designingashton oo will you guys dress up? Reply Retweet Favorite More Expand Catherine Ashton @designingashton 2m @krissywhitehea1 Yes .... I hope we get lots of cast pics, especially of Jay and Kristin. I miss them! I don't know if Jay and Kristin will be in attendance for sure Austin isn't he left Toronto yesterday to spend the Holidays in the United States
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 6:04:01 GMT -5
I hope we get lots of cast pics, especially of Jay and Kristin. I miss them! I don't know if Jay and Kristin will be in attendance for sure Austin isn't he left Toronto yesterday to spend the Holidays in the United States But...but...but it's the BATB Christmas party! Shouldn't ALL the cast be in attendance??!! :cry:
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Dec 21, 2013 6:08:43 GMT -5
I don't know if Jay and Kristin will be in attendance for sure Austin isn't he left Toronto yesterday to spend the Holidays in the United States But...but...but it's the BATB Christmas party! Shouldn't ALL the cast be in attendance??!! :cry: No not really it could be a party for the crew..like the people behind the camera...It's been known for the cast to show up too but it is not mandatory especially if they made other plans..Remember Kristin might have gone home to Vancouver and Jay might have gone home with the baby and the wife to his homeland! Only we'll know later on
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 6:12:25 GMT -5
But...but...but it's the BATB Christmas party! Shouldn't ALL the cast be in attendance??!! :cry: No not really it could be a party for the crew..like the people behind the camera...It's been known for the cast to show up too but it is not mandatory especially if they made other plans..Remember Kristin might have gone home to Vancouver and Jay might have gone home with the baby and the wife to his homeland! Only we'll know later on Oh okay now I get it LOL Im just starving for some Jay and KK pics!!! This hiatus is killing me!! Oh and you said 'wife'. Did I miss something here??!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Dec 21, 2013 6:15:54 GMT -5
No not really it could be a party for the crew..like the people behind the camera...It's been known for the cast to show up too but it is not mandatory especially if they made other plans..Remember Kristin might have gone home to Vancouver and Jay might have gone home with the baby and the wife to his homeland! Only we'll know later on Oh okay now I get it LOL Im just starving for some Jay and KK pics!!! This hiatus is killing me!! Oh and you said 'wife'. Did I miss something here??! Figure of speech? LOL Ashton will be live tweeting so hopefully we'll get some nice pics
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Post by jaykris on Dec 21, 2013 6:19:04 GMT -5
some are assuming he is now married, what with the ring on his finger and all, during his last publicity event. No one knows for sure though. There's debate cause it was on the right hand, but it sure did look like a wedding band.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Dec 21, 2013 6:26:13 GMT -5
some are assuming he is now married, what with the ring on his finger and all, during his last publicity event. No one knows for sure though. There's debate cause it was on the right hand, but it sure did look like a wedding band. His marital status shouldn't make a difference...He's still Vincent and two HE'S STILL HOT, HANDSOME, and MIGHTY FINE! LOL Oh and I heard that the last thing Catherine Ashton got V and C were a Suit and a dress and since she usually buys things ahead of filming then we can assume that it's for the famous destination wedding..Which tells me that V and C will be there I say it's a dream LOL or that Elizabeth Rolm character is getting married and Vincent and Catherine are there. But then again the FBI agent must then know about Vincent right?
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Dec 21, 2013 15:11:14 GMT -5
some are assuming he is now married, what with the ring on his finger and all, during his last publicity event. No one knows for sure though. There's debate cause it was on the right hand, but it sure did look like a wedding band. His marital status shouldn't make a difference...He's still Vincent and two HE'S STILL HOT, HANDSOME, and MIGHTY FINE! LOL Actually, I saw an old picture of him wearing a ring on the same finger & it looked very similar. Also, he has been in a relationship for a very long time. That's all that counts. A ring & piece of paper changes nothing! And, to quote a wise person, "HE'S STILL HOT, HANDSOME, and MIGHTY FINE! "
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Dec 21, 2013 15:19:05 GMT -5
Ok - so I watched all S1 and S2 episodes (and it's not even Christmas yet!) and I thoroughly enjoyed watching them in order. This show never ceases to amaze me. It is the only show where I love watching each and every episode again and again and again and again. I never get bored! I really enjoyed all episodes but there are some episodes I absolutely loved, more than others. Let me just get one thing clear. I do understand that BATB has its flaws and quality wise it could not compete with some other TV shows but I don’t really care – it is the only show that has ever captured my heart and has evoked so many feelings and emotions. I love this show and to me it is number 1! Watching all episode confirmed that the show feels so different this year than last year. But to be fair the second half of the show last year also felt different than the first half. Episodes 1-9 I would cluster together, then 10-22 and then season 2 1-8. I was hoping I would be able after watching them all together to favourite one set of episodes over another but I simply cannot. I loved different things about each set of episodes and watching all of them made me even more eager (how can that even be possible) for the new episodes to air. Episodes 1-9 I felt were very homely and simple/pure (in a good way) and the show had a very different feel than other TV shows I had watched before. We got to fall in love with all the key characters and we got to fall in love with Vincat while they were also falling in love with each other. By episode 9 Caherine was really in love with Vincent though I feel Vincent was in love with Catherine before they even met (remember, he had been watching over her for 10 years). Even though I was not that keen on the procedural element, I don’t know – I did not mind it at all watching it this time round. The first 9 episodes were very charming and loving and heart-warming and episode 9 was just the bomb! Beautiful episode! Episodes 10-22 had a somewhat different feel to them and I would say season 2 is more similar to these than to episodes 1-9. 10-12 were difficult episodes to watch but I still loved watching them. I know the Alex arc annoyed many fans but I do not think Vincent was such a big ass during those episodes. I am probably a very forgiving person lol because I could understand and justify his behaviour which for me to a great extent stemmed from his insecurity. I think a few of the dialogues could have been handled better for sure but the Alex arc did not devastate me at all. At no point was there any doubt in my mind that he was fully in love with Catherine. These episodes also helped Catherine understand just how much she loves Vincent. 13-16 showed them in love, oh my those kisses, them making love – in episode 16 in the tunnels when he stopped her from leaving cause he wanted another kiss from her. Just beautiful! Episodes 17 onwards we understand just how much they love each other, but also what has to give way because of their complicated relationship. By that time we are all convinced these two will do and sacrifice anything to stay together and that their love is deep. Season 2 – yes, things are very different! Vincent, for one! What a difference! Re-watching season 1 episodes made that even clearer to me. Kudos to Jay, really! I always thought he was a very good actor but even more convinced now. Watching season 2 we do see glimpses of old Vincent but his body language, the way he speaks, his expressions are so different this season. Old Vincent was a tortured soul, a very kind, gentle, tortured soul, insecure but loving and considerate. Despite his beast DNA he was as human as it gets and felt guilty for his uncontrollable, beasty side. New Vincent is a tortured soul too – but he is also severely damaged and is struggling to determine what he really is or what he wants to be. Regarding people saying Vincent is so different towards Cat this season, yes he is, definitely! But – watching again made me see that despite all his internal struggles Vincent 2.0 has real feelings for Catherine and seeks her approval and love. She is the only person that enhances his humanity and their connection (even when he did not remember her) is undeniable. That is how I see it anyway. In this season, Vincent has not treated Catherine bad considering his inner struggles and messed up state of mind and his enhanced beast DNA. In these first episodes their relationship has changed hugely. Obviously Vincent is struggling with his identity so much that he needs to sort himself out before he delves into a healthy relationship with Cat. He has always struggled with his identity but even more so now. But also Cat is struggling a lot accepting the new Vincent and the complicated (to say the least) life with Vincent. In episodes 5 onwards this becomes very clear, and in fact I was really sad in episode 5 cause you could really see Catherine thinking is he the right guy for me? I love him to death but is this the type of life I want (understandably of course). Catherine from the beginning (and I can use many examples from both season 1 and 2) does not fully accept Vincent, she is unsure not about him but about the life that comes with being with Vincent. Again, very understandable – most people would run away from day 1. Catherine needs to be sure about Vincent before they are in a healthy and lasting relationship. So she also needs to go back and understand who she is and what she wants from life and what her priorities are. I also know that after these first 8 episodes people say how can these two get back to how they were. And I want to say I am sure they will. Not because the writers will have to do it to satisfy the fans but it won’t feel real, but because at least to me it is very clear these two love each other deeply and are made for each other. So they will find each other, once they find out who they are and what they want and need. I personally can see the writers’ vision clearly and I agree with how they have handled things till now. Ok, they may mess things up, but to me they have not as yet at all! Season 2 is fast paced (these 42 minutes go past so quickly), well filmed, exciting, angsty with very good character portrayal and the episodes are very well connected to each other, there is a very good build-up of events and emotions and character development ( I think this is probably done better than season 1). Season 1 is romantic, dreamy, homely and it would be great if the second or/and third arcs continue in the style of the first eight episodes but also add this romantic, homely element that also made season 1 so special. I really can’t wait till January 13!!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Dec 21, 2013 15:19:34 GMT -5
btw mods please feel free to move my post above, was not sure where to post!
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Post by kiki09 on Dec 21, 2013 15:55:04 GMT -5
^ Thanks for your thoughts and impressions anapi! I liked it and agree. Personally I group the eps from season 1 as 1-9, 10-13, 14-22 (or even 14-19 and 20-22). Otherwise, you made some very key points and I can't wait to so my rewatch and all 30 eps!
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