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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Dec 19, 2013 2:47:30 GMT -5
I know it's off topic but when do we know the results of the PCA awards? I truly hope that something good comes from it for batb becuase we really need a boost now and I would personally love a season 3 and hope to that they have decided to write Tori out becuase for me that is one step to far that they went bringing in a she beast and the lip locking that went on with her and V was just so uncalled for and it has now come back to bite the writers in the butt big time. I'm on tender hooks until next year and sincerley do hope that the writer's and Jennifer and Sherri can salvage this show that showed so much potential in season 1 and bring our Vincat back to us somehow. Happy Christmas to all my fellow Beasties and your families and let's keep roaring I believe we won't have news until few days before PCA awards and probably only because JR and KK may fly or not to the awards. Depending on that, we can hint if there's a chance for BATB to win. Merry Christmas to you too!!!
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Post by raniamahd on Dec 19, 2013 6:08:54 GMT -5
but with new spoilers coming in i kinda feel its gonna be a supernatural spinoff in the mythology dept and vin/tori might have a sam/dean kinda relationship Sam and Den ?!!! realy !!!!!!!!! what ever relationship this selfish spoiled brat will have with Vincent , there is no way to compare it to ( Sam & Den) because their brotherhood relation is the most amazing relation i have ever seen on tv , specially cause it is not a regular man and woman relationship , not sexy or romantic , it is so much bigger , it is brotherhood , it is family ! now they dare to compare it to a Tori and Vincent relation ?!! that is so offended to compare who is here just for stupid temporary love triangle to (Sam&Den) ! and if any one say she is not here for that ? then he/she have to answer a question i asked befor : if she is here just to pull V to his beast side and for a mythology reasons then why she has to be a femal beast ? a male beast can do the same purpose , some thing like Zack did , right ? and who the adorable she beast will be ? tell me know she will be Den to droop dead immediately ! then we may be even more lucky and if the show has season 3 she will be a main and permanent character ,and we will be blessed by seeing her in the most time of every single episode as we already sow her in just 3 episodes more than we saw JT ! but then they have to change the show title to ( the beast and the adorable she beast and non important others ) ! and they wonder why some fans abandon the show ?!! simply because last time i checked its name was (beauty and the beast) so i has to be all concentrate on the two of them only , the supernatural things and even the mythology and certainly the adorable she beast--- don't belong in here !!!
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Post by jaykris on Dec 19, 2013 6:24:42 GMT -5
Everyone keeps blaming this Tori story on BATB being in Jeopardy and the writing for season 2, but ratings have been consistent from the beginning, even before we found out how much of a douche bag V was going to be....no, there are other reasons why the ratings from the get go have been significantly lower than S1.
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Post by ragulr25 on Dec 19, 2013 6:26:13 GMT -5
but with new spoilers coming in i kinda feel its gonna be a supernatural spinoff in the mythology dept and vin/tori might have a sam/dean kinda relationship Sam and Den ?!!! realy !!!!!!!!! what ever relationship this selfish spoiled brat will have with Vincent , there is no way to compare it to ( Sam & Den) because their brotherhood relation is the most amazing relation i have ever seen on tv , specially cause it is not a regular man and woman relationship , not sexy or romantic , it is so much bigger , it is brotherhood , it is family ! now they dare to compare it to a Tori and Vincent relation ?!! that is so offended to compare who is here just for stupid temporary love triangle to (Sam&Den) ! and if any one say she is not here for that ? then he/she have to answer a question i asked befor : if she is here just to pull V to his beast side and for a mythology reasons then why she has to be a femal beast ? a male beast can do the same purpose , some thing like Zack did , right ? and who the adorable she beast will be ? tell me know she will be Den to droop dead immediately ! then we may be even more lucky and if the show has season 3 she will be a main and permanent character ,and we will be blessed by seeing her in the most time of every single episode as we already sow her in just 3 episodes more than we saw JT ! but then they have to change the show title to ( the beast and the adorable she beast and non important others ) ! and they wonder why some fans abandon the show ?!! simply because last time i checked its name was (beauty and the beast) so i has to be all concentrate on the two of them only , the supernatural things and even the mythology and certainly the adorable she beast--- don't belong in here !!! cool down i said kinda sam/dean relationship. i told they r trying to make look like that actually i m a massive supernatural fan .so dont think i m undemining the relationship of sam/dean char i still think tori is there to pull up his "beastness"from his human side as u said the title is "beauty and the beast" and dont worry tori char is gonna leave
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Dec 19, 2013 6:28:20 GMT -5
but with new spoilers coming in i kinda feel its gonna be a supernatural spinoff in the mythology dept and vin/tori might have a sam/dean kinda relationship Sam and Den ?!!! realy !!!!!!!!! what ever relationship this selfish spoiled brat will have with Vincent , there is no way to compare it to ( Sam & Den) because their brotherhood relation is the most amazing relation i have ever seen on tv , specially cause it is not a regular man and woman relationship , not sexy or romantic , it is so much bigger , it is brotherhood , it is family ! now they dare to compare it to a Tori and Vincent relation ?!! that is so offended to compare who is here just for stupid temporary love triangle to (Sam&Den) ! and if any one say she is not here for that ? then he/she have to answer a question i asked befor : if she is here just to pull V to his beast side and for a mythology reasons then why she has to be a femal beast ? a male beast can do the same purpose , some thing like Zack did , right ? and who the adorable she beast will be ? tell me know she will be Den to droop dead immediately ! then we may be even more lucky and if the show has season 3 she will be a main and permanent character ,and we will be blessed by seeing her in the most time of every single episode as we already sow her in just 3 episodes more than we saw JT ! but then they have to change the show title to ( the beast and the adorable she beast and non important others ) ! and they wonder why some fans abandon the show ?!! simply because last time i checked its name was (beauty and the beast) so i has to be all concentrate on the two of them only , the supernatural things and even the mythology and certainly the adorable she beast--- don't belong in here !!! Why don't we wait until the actual episodes air? This Sam/Dean kind of relationship in BATB is a pure speculation of one of the viewers... As for the mythology, I think it's needed and in every show that lasted more than 1 season it's present. Otherwise, there is no story to tell, except the show is a pure procedural one (i.e. Castle, CSI, etc...) and even in those cases there usually is a mythology... We can not expect BATB to be only a love story between a couple and without any story in the background to sustain it.. Well, at least that's my opinion
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Dec 19, 2013 6:30:43 GMT -5
Sam and Den ?!!! realy !!!!!!!!! what ever relationship this selfish spoiled brat will have with Vincent , there is no way to compare it to ( Sam & Den) because their brotherhood relation is the most amazing relation i have ever seen on tv , specially cause it is not a regular man and woman relationship , not sexy or romantic , it is so much bigger , it is brotherhood , it is family ! now they dare to compare it to a Tori and Vincent relation ?!! that is so offended to compare who is here just for stupid temporary love triangle to (Sam&Den) ! and if any one say she is not here for that ? then he/she have to answer a question i asked befor : if she is here just to pull V to his beast side and for a mythology reasons then why she has to be a femal beast ? a male beast can do the same purpose , some thing like Zack did , right ? and who the adorable she beast will be ? tell me know she will be Den to droop dead immediately ! then we may be even more lucky and if the show has season 3 she will be a main and permanent character ,and we will be blessed by seeing her in the most time of every single episode as we already sow her in just 3 episodes more than we saw JT ! but then they have to change the show title to ( the beast and the adorable she beast and non important others ) ! and they wonder why some fans abandon the show ?!! simply because last time i checked its name was (beauty and the beast) so i has to be all concentrate on the two of them only , the supernatural things and even the mythology and certainly the adorable she beast--- don't belong in here !!! cool down i said kinda sam/dean relationship Precisely, "kinda" and your speculation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you for it, it's just that we can't freak out and consider a speculation as an actual spoiler every time one of us comes up with an idea!!! That would be soooooo tough to survive! especially during this hiatus when our minds are running wild because of the withdrawal!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 6:49:24 GMT -5
Precisely, "kinda" and your speculation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you for it, it's just that we can't freak out and consider a speculation as an actual spoiler every time one of us comes up with an idea!!! That would be soooooo tough to survive! especially during this hiatus when our minds are running wild because of the withdrawal!!! Sadly, that is one of the reasons why our fandom is being torn apart. All these speculations by some people ( and I'm not accusing anyone here, just in general ) are being posted on Twitter and here and other social media and fans are wrongly mislead into believing they're facts which is driving them away I mean, they 'could' be right but until I see it and hear it with my own eyes it's still a speculation and shouldn't be deemed as a fact.
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Post by ragulr25 on Dec 19, 2013 6:49:32 GMT -5
Sam and Den ?!!! realy !!!!!!!!! what ever relationship this selfish spoiled brat will have with Vincent , there is no way to compare it to ( Sam & Den) because their brotherhood relation is the most amazing relation i have ever seen on tv , specially cause it is not a regular man and woman relationship , not sexy or romantic , it is so much bigger , it is brotherhood , it is family ! now they dare to compare it to a Tori and Vincent relation ?!! that is so offended to compare who is here just for stupid temporary love triangle to (Sam&Den) ! and if any one say she is not here for that ? then he/she have to answer a question i asked befor : if she is here just to pull V to his beast side and for a mythology reasons then why she has to be a femal beast ? a male beast can do the same purpose , some thing like Zack did , right ? and who the adorable she beast will be ? tell me know she will be Den to droop dead immediately ! then we may be even more lucky and if the show has season 3 she will be a main and permanent character ,and we will be blessed by seeing her in the most time of every single episode as we already sow her in just 3 episodes more than we saw JT ! but then they have to change the show title to ( the beast and the adorable she beast and non important others ) ! and they wonder why some fans abandon the show ?!! simply because last time i checked its name was (beauty and the beast) so i has to be all concentrate on the two of them only , the supernatural things and even the mythology and certainly the adorable she beast--- don't belong in here !!! Why don't we wait until the actual episodes air? This Sam/Dean kind of relationship in BATB is a pure speculation of one of the viewers... As for the mythology, I think it's needed and in every show that lasted more than 1 season it's present. Otherwise, there is no story to tell, except the show is a pure procedural one (i.e. Castle, CSI, etc...) and even in those cases there usually is a mythology... We can not expect BATB to be only a love story between a couple and without any story in the background to sustain it.. Well, at least that's my opinion u r 100 % right on this one we needed that even castle has beckett's mother mystery to fall on to
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Post by kiki09 on Dec 19, 2013 6:53:28 GMT -5
Precisely, "kinda" and your speculation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you for it, it's just that we can't freak out and consider a speculation as an actual spoiler every time one of us comes up with an idea!!! That would be soooooo tough to survive! especially during this hiatus when our minds are running wild because of the withdrawal!!! Sadly, that is one of the reasons why our fandom is being torn apart. All these speculations by some people ( and I'm not accusing anyone here, just in general ) are being posted on Twitter and here and other social media and fans are wrongly mislead into believing they're facts which is driving them away I mean, they 'could' be right but until I see it and hear it with my own eyes it's still a speculation and shouldn't be deemed as a fact. It happens all the time even last season. And despite the fact it is clearly SPECULATION, some take it as fact and get very heated and angry even before ANY eps have aired.
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Post by ragulr25 on Dec 19, 2013 6:58:28 GMT -5
do u guys think we need a seperate folder for speculations apart from spoilers to not freak out the fan base???
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Dec 19, 2013 7:05:03 GMT -5
do u guys think we need a seperate folder for speculations apart from spoilers to not freak out the fan base??? I don't think so... This folder is called Spoilers AND Speculations. Everyone who visits it is aware what they can find here. We usually are very clear when we post a spoiler (usually comes with a link or a tweet) and distinguish it when it's just a speculation of our own.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 7:24:41 GMT -5
Sadly, that is one of the reasons why our fandom is being torn apart. All these speculations by some people ( and I'm not accusing anyone here, just in general ) are being posted on Twitter and here and other social media and fans are wrongly mislead into believing they're facts which is driving them away I mean, they 'could' be right but until I see it and hear it with my own eyes it's still a speculation and shouldn't be deemed as a fact. It happens all the time even last season. And despite the fact it is clearly SPECULATION, some take it as fact and get very heated and angry even before ANY eps have aired. Yeah apparently that scene of Vincent sweating in his kitchen was speculated as him being hot and heavy with the 'she-beast'. As it turned out, our poor V was actually bleeding to death in his kitchen after sustaining a gun shot wound
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Post by raniamahd on Dec 19, 2013 7:27:20 GMT -5
cool down i said kinda sam/dean relationship. i told they r trying to make look like that actually i m a massive supernatural fan .so dont think i m undemining the relationship of sam/dean char i still think tori is there to pull up his "beastness"from his human side as u said the title is "beauty and the beast" and dont worry tori char is gonna leave first i have to say i am so sorry if my post sound like a personal attack , that wasn't my intention at all but i'm really upset of all that spoilers that pictured Tori as a major and huge element in the next story and in Vincent's life and all the confirmation that she is here for destiny reasons not romantic make me believe more in my first impression that she is just here as Vincent new love affair ?! imagin if Windsor had a 20 years old son instead of a daughter , he is a beast too and like to be a beast and pulls V to his beast side and has whatever the role he has in the mythology , that would work too , right ? but because Vincent can not kiss, makes out, has sex with a male beast that is why in my opinion she has to be a female beast ! but how about we with all respect agree to disagree on this point and wait to see who is right ? if she has role only in the mythology and has no sexual relation with V , i will owe you and the writers a big fat (i am sorry) but if they have sex in the up coming episodes and that make a new major trouble in vincat relation , so the writers than better stop talking about how she isn't here for stupid love triangle , and stop forced her on us !
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Post by kiki09 on Dec 19, 2013 7:27:46 GMT -5
It happens all the time even last season. And despite the fact it is clearly SPECULATION, some take it as fact and get very heated and angry even before ANY eps have aired. Yeah apparently that scene of Vincent sweating in his kitchen was speculated as him being not and heavy with the 'she-beast'. As it turned out, our poor V was actually bleeding to death in his kitchen after sustaining a gun shot wound Lol!!! True! Despite the fact it's been confirmed that that wouldn't happen! But I guess the moment you have painted him as the bad guy and have a great dislike for Tori, you expect the worst. But from day 1, promos have always been deceptive and some even include things we never see in the actual ep so I take all of it with a grain of salt and rather wait for the ep to confirm my suspicions or not
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Post by feezya on Dec 19, 2013 7:42:49 GMT -5
cool down i said kinda sam/dean relationship. i told they r trying to make look like that actually i m a massive supernatural fan .so dont think i m undemining the relationship of sam/dean char i still think tori is there to pull up his "beastness"from his human side as u said the title is "beauty and the beast" and dont worry tori char is gonna leave first i have to say i am so sorry if my post sound like a personal attack , that wasn't my intention at all but i'm really upset of all that spoilers that pictured Tori as a major and huge element in the next story and in Vincent's life and all the confirmation that she is here for destiny reasons not romantic make me believe more in my first impression that she is just here as Vincent new love affair ?! imagin if Windsor had a 20 years old son instead of a daughter , he is a beast too and like to be a beast and pulls V to his beast side and has whatever the role he has in the mythology , that would work too , right ? but because Vincent can not kiss, makes out, has sex with a male beast that is why in my opinion she has to be a female beast ! but how about we with all respect agree to disagree on this point and wait to see who is right ? if she has role only in the mythology and has no sexual relation with V , i will owe you and the writers a big fat (i am sorry) but if they have sex in the up coming episodes and that make a new major trouble in vincat relation , so the writers than better stop talking about how she isn't here for stupid love triangle , and stop forced her on us !
i'm keeping my optimism but trusting TPTB that she STILL here for the mythology, and the link to help Kristin find out more of her past. But if they do go down the road (Vincent Tori sex) I for one will definitely be the first to join u to give our piece of mind to the writers, producers or whomever that has been lying to us
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